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Heidi Heitkamp

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  1. “Went to the University of North because. If it hadn't been for student loans. And so, you know, I'm grateful every day that the country invested in me. And I think that we're proof positive. My family, that when you make an investment in children in particular, you're going to reap pretty good rewards. We just have to make that investment more equal and we have to recommit ourselves to that investment in this country.”

    2021-02-18 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 430 — Heidi Heitkamp · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  2. “But we all went to college. We all had that opportunity. And it was really that opportunity that I think When you see what providing opportunity does and you see what it does not just for families, but you see what it does for the country in building a middle class, you get the sense that there is a role for government in all this. We would never have gone to college if it hadn't been number one for state support for state institutions, which has dwindled.”

    2021-02-18 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 430 — Heidi Heitkamp · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  3. “And my dad was delivered bulk gas until his company came out of basically did not supply the gas anymore and he had to find something else. So he became a seasonal construction worker. And my mom was a school cook and a janitor. And, you know, when you look at kind of the lessons of post World War II, I think a lot of policymakers saw, boy, that GI bill worked pretty well. It really built a middle class. It allowed, you know, these GIs who would never have thought about going to college gave them a chance to go to college and build a house and build a business. How about if we extend that to other people? And so as a result, these seven kids, my mom had seven kids in nine years. When I was born, I was the fourth and the oldest was two and there were no twins. It's possible. I could walk you through it, but I won't. Um...”

    2021-02-18 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 430 — Heidi Heitkamp · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  4. “Generation, the school that I went to for eight years before I went to high school in Hankinson. And then obviously the last institution was St. Peter's and Paul's Church, St. Peter and Paul, which was our Catholic Church, very heavily Catholic area. And”

    2021-02-18 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 430 — Heidi Heitkamp · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  5. “Yeah, I always love saying the population was 90 and my family was one tenth the people in Manador. The other thing is very Catholic. When I give speeches about Mandur, I talk about three things, the VFW, which was the smallest town to have a VFW post in the country, still has a VFW post. My dad was instrumental in doing that. They told me he couldn't do it. And in the true high camp fashion, when you tell high camp they can't, they always make sure they do. And so being respectful of veterans honoring service was always part of it. In spite of being a very small school district, it had its own elementary school, which I think is another institution that was so critical growing up is that we had our own little school and, you know, it was funded and built by the community, and they were very, very proud that they built a new school building for what was in fact the baby boom.”

    2021-02-18 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 430 — Heidi Heitkamp · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  6. “You should tell her either way. You know, whatever she needs me to do, I think the Senate is a better place because she is there. And she's one of the few people that I can say is indispensable in the Senate because she has a conscience about what she does every day.”

    2021-02-18 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 430 — Heidi Heitkamp · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  7. “I'm completely biased. Lisa and I did tons of work together, whether it was in oil and gas where we worked on opening the oil industry, the domestic oil industry, into the international markets, whether it was doing some natural resources stuff and conservation stuff, and then where we really bonded was on Indigenous people's rights. And she was my co-sponsor on Savannah's Act, and she was my co-sponsor on something called the Commission on the Status of Native American Children. I consider her one of the most amazing people that I served with just because she is so thoughtful and so principled and principled beyond belief. And, you know, I certainly hope she says she's going to run again. And, you know, I will be up there going door to door for her if she thinks that would be helpful.”

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  8. “Not so much. He's a pretty straight shooter, you know. I think people who had a pretty good life before they came to the Senate tend to be a little bit more. He's a physician and well-regarded, did a lot of charity clinic work. You know, he's an interesting guy and not to be discredited. And so Cassidy put him aside and say, okay, they just got re-elected. Then you've got Romney Trump has never been outrageously popular in Utah. in part, I think, because of he doesn't appeal to people in the Mormon faith very much. So that leaves us with one person who actually left it all out. And rest all. Yep. And I think she is, for your volume of profiles and courage, if you're going to nominate someone, you would nominate Lisa. for profiles and courage.”

    2021-02-18 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 430 — Heidi Heitkamp · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  9. “So, I think his lens was a little sharper than some of the other lenses in terms of the danger that right-wing supremacists basically present to our country. So Richard Burr and Toomey. Okay, let's put them aside. They're retiring. They risk nothing. Then let's go to the Susan Collins, the Ben Sass, the ones who were just recently re-elected. Cassidy, although that's a surprise.”

    2021-02-18 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 430 — Heidi Heitkamp · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  10. “Yeah, but so when I looked at the Senate vote, the Senate Republican vote, I saw Richard Burr, which was a surprise. And no one, he wasn't on a lot of radar, but he's retiring. I think he's a straight shooter. Plus, Richard Burr has had access to a lot of intelligence as being the chair of the intelligence.”

    2021-02-18 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 430 — Heidi Heitkamp · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  11. “Well, none of it surprised me. I thought maybe a couple more. I thought maybe you'd get Shelby and maybe Portman just because they don't risk anything.”

    2021-02-18 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 430 — Heidi Heitkamp · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  12. “Yeah, absolutely. People don't know how to find those places. Only the hardcore conspiracy theorists or the hardcore white supremacists know how to find various forms and formats that he's going to be at. But not having access to Twitter. Has been a huge disadvantage for this president, and they know it. You know, people say, well, he's been, you know, he's been, you know, his free speech rights have been limited by this. And you're saying, no, you could still go on Fox News. You could still write an op-ed for whatever newspaper you want to write an op-ed. But not having that instantaneous reaction that we've all become addicted to in Twitter, you know, where, oh, look what happened today. I wonder what Trump's thinking about it.”

    2021-02-18 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 430 — Heidi Heitkamp · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  13. “Yeah, well, that's right. But then right afterwards, had Mitch McConnell said nothing instead of making a speech which basically condemned President Trump for history's sake, I think. So Mitch McConnell made him relevant this week. So where is the relevance next week? And you know, as well as I know, when you aren't on television, when you aren't being talked about, even if people feel, you know, like warm and fuzzy about you, even if people, you know, like you, you don't have a platform. And I think that the better, I'm going to be better able to answer that question three months from now.”

    2021-02-18 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 430 — Heidi Heitkamp · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  14. “him by calling him a popist. But what I would say is we don't know yet. How does Donald Trump stay relevant? How does Donald Trump stay in kind of front row and center? You know, last week was a big Donald Trump week. He was being impeached, that we had the trial. Hell of a way to start.”

    2021-02-18 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 430 — Heidi Heitkamp · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  15. “First off, I want to say that Donald Trump gave populace a bad name. I always considered myself a populist. I think Donald Trump's an opportunist. So I'm not going to.”

    2021-02-18 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 430 — Heidi Heitkamp · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  16. “Sure. I mean, when I say in the initial stages, people would say, well, you know, you need to be supporting when I was still in office. You need to be supporting Donald Trump. And, you know, my reaction was when I think he's right, I'll be right there fighting with him. And then I would turn it on him and I would say, but doesn't it bother you that he lies? You know, just because I thought that was like such a character flaw. And what I would get back would be kind of a couple blinks. And they'd say, they all lie. They did not say he didn't lie. They just said they all lie, you know, like it doesn't matter. And that was absolutely disturbing that the people who are more disturbing are the people who believe their lies, but I don't think that's the majority of people in rural America, quite honestly. I think they know he was a big fibber. They know he was a big bragger. But yet when presented what they thought was with non-violent”

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  17. “Of Donald Trump that are exactly the opposite of what I would expect would be the reflective world values, but yet huge emotional attachment to Donald Trump in rural America.”

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  18. “Wasn't able to, you know, kind of leap into a different demographic, he had to rely on a large turnout in the demographic that he was in. And so I think they're a product of their time. They're a product of the place and space that they exist. And one has to wonder, given the gender gap, given the racial gap politically in Trump's supporters, whether it's sustainable. I mean, he peaked at exactly the right time, but he also had a huge people had a big emotional connection to Donald Trump and still do. And that's the piece that I don't get. Because in rural America, you don't brag. In rural America, you don't lie. In rural America, you don't go back on your word. Your hand shakes your bun. And I can show you a lifelong behavior.”

    2021-02-18 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 430 — Heidi Heitkamp · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  19. “But one thing I would say, David, is their demographic is dwindling, right? So they hit about the time that, you know, white male majority kind of thinking was what you would have in the political discourse.”

    2021-02-18 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 430 — Heidi Heitkamp · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  20. “I think the first thing that they do is they culturally connect, right? So connect culturally. I'm like you, you know, I'm kind of a bigger guy, you know, and I know how to have fun and the cultural connection is there. I used to say this about Donald Trump. He would say, what's he going to say tomorrow? I said, I don't know. Go down to the Morton Bar and listen to what they're talking about down there.”

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  21. “There were people listening intently, but it was I'm competent and that was her message and Trump's message was I'm fun and I'm now giving you permission to talk however the hell you want to talk in life including cussing even if you're evangelical”

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  22. “Well, and then if I can just compare it when you went to an event for Hillary Clinton in 16, which I did, you know, you're going to hear how many windmills she's going to put up.”

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  23. “There's no doubt. And I think the president, President Trump, took a page from Rush Limbaugh and decided, look, political dialogue to have an impact and to be lasting has to be entertaining. And the one thing that I tell people when they criticize President Trump's rallies, I said, when you watch the rallies and when you see the rallies, people are having fun there. They're having fun be, you know, there's kind of a tailgate-like atmosphere beforehand. And then there's the event and people are dancing and singing. And I think you can't underestimate the impact of having fun in that kind of venue. And I think Rush Limbaugh, whether you loved him or hated him, was an entertaining guy. He would say things that people would talk about the next day. And that is his lasting legacy. And it also is America's last.”

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  24. “Well, I think the first thing you have to think about is that in many ways he was the only thing on. So if they were carrying him on one of a very radio station that had a wide reach, that's who you listen to. And then it was entertaining. I mean, it was fun. It was funny. He was funny. And we can't take that away, that entertainment factor. But honestly, I wonder if he would have had the kind of impact if he had to compete in today's media where there's podcasts, there is so much more available, there's serious radio, there's so many more mediums you can access in your car, your tractor.”

    2021-02-18 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 430 — Heidi Heitkamp · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  25. “I think to say whatever is on your mind, no matter how mean spirited it is, and that somehow is okay. And I think it really then grew into Fox News. Everybody saw how commercially viable that kind of language was. And that's the beginning of polarized media, in my opinion.”

    2021-02-18 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 430 — Heidi Heitkamp · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  26. “I don't want to be uncharitable, but I did have a vision of him standing in line at the Pearlie Gates, having to answer some pretty tough questions about whether he lived a life that enhanced other people's lives, if that can be meanly said, I guess. I shouldn't prejudge things. It's not up to me.”

    2021-02-18 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 430 — Heidi Heitkamp · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source