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Helle Thorning-Schmidt

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  1. “Yeah, of course. I mean. That's amazing. Roy was the obvious choice, but I do think what you're showing in this podcast is that it is actually possible to build those bridges, have that conversation, disagree, and invite people in who disagree with you. And I really like that. And that's what I want more of, that we disagree in an agreeable way and that we talk to each other and try to build those bridges. My experience is that the world could become so much nicer if you try to build those bridges.”

    2024-07-07 · The Rest Is Politics: Leading · 84. Denmark's former PM on the power of centrist politics, fighting misogyny, and joining the Kinnock empire (Helle Thorning-Schmidt) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  2. “Yeah, it was a good part seat. Alistair obviously demanded to hear ABBA all the time, which is what he does at a party. But I'm so glad you had a conversation in all that noise and the inferno of that party and started this makes me very proud. And I want to say this particularly to Rory. I mean, Alice, please don't listen. You're doing a fine job in this podcast. And I listened to it all the time. I don't want to say it to Alistair because you know how he gets, Rory, if he gets too much praise.”

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  3. “A lot of different teams which they should have a discussion about, and then in the sector that I'm in now, when we're in the boardroom, we're all on the same team. And that's been an amazing feeling. It's much less stressful as well. So that's my lesson. I loved being in Save the Children. It's, you know that yourself, Roy. It's amazing to work with 25,000 people across the world and more than 100 countries just trying to make life a little bit better for children. This is my passion. I'm passionate about children's rights, that children have agency, have a voice. That's also why I think we need to respect children's voice in social media and not say they just can't be on social media. Children have a voice as well. So that was amazing to work in that organization, but I'm also glad that I transitioned out into a business world where I really feel that it's amazing to be on the same team.”

    2024-07-07 · The Rest Is Politics: Leading · 84. Denmark's former PM on the power of centrist politics, fighting misogyny, and joining the Kinnock empire (Helle Thorning-Schmidt) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  4. “I've made such a weird journey because I started in politics, then I went into the NGO sector as a CEO, Save the Children International. And now I'm basically in business. I do the oversight for META of them. So Meta's watchdog, but I also work in a number of boards in the US and Denmark and the UK. So I'm in business now. And I think that journey has been very, very interesting. It's taught me so much. And one thing I've really learned is that when you are in a business, as I am on various boards, for the first time I'm feeling that the people in the room are on the same team. When you're in politics, you're never on the same team with anyone, not even the people from your own party. Then you go into coalition, definitely not on the same team. In NGO sector, there's also a lot of different teams.”

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  5. “So true. And I mean, you got the worst of all worlds with a Brexit you ended up having. It hasn't solved any problems as far as I can see. People often ask me, is there, are there any good things about Brexit? Honestly, I can't see it other than what I'd said before, that in Denmark we do not want to leave the European Union anymore because we see how that is going. So no, I always felt there was a missed opportunity to find the middle ground. And again, it's not in the culture to find that middle ground. I felt that my husband, Stephen, Roy, work very, very earnestly to find that middle ground there.”

    2024-07-07 · The Rest Is Politics: Leading · 84. Denmark's former PM on the power of centrist politics, fighting misogyny, and joining the Kinnock empire (Helle Thorning-Schmidt) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  6. “We change something. We actually, when we did the Maastricht Treaty, we voted no, and then we changed certain things, we got four exemptions from the treaty and voted again. So that's exactly what could have happened here. You could have got a different treaty. With boys pro”

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  7. “Yeah, no, do you want to know? Yeah, I do. I do I felt it was very difficult to ask for a second referendum when people had just voted. And I sometimes feel that people who asked for the second referendum created an obstacle to finding the middle ground and the solution. And that bothers me because I think there was a middle ground. I think Rory was representative of that. Yeah, I do think that I understand why you did it. Ask for a second referendum, but I also felt I understood why people would be very angry to get a second referendum when they had just voted on something. It's like saying, oh, we didn't like the result of that, so we just do it again.”

    2024-07-07 · The Rest Is Politics: Leading · 84. Denmark's former PM on the power of centrist politics, fighting misogyny, and joining the Kinnock empire (Helle Thorning-Schmidt) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  8. “I don't know, and I really like Jacob Rowling, and I've read all her books. I'm very saddened by it. But I also want to try to take the temperature out of this conversation. I actually feel that my role in politics, also Danish politics, is to try to build bridges between generations, between different points of view, not to call other people names. My role is as a mature former politician is to try to build bridges. And I would love for her to also be part of that building bridges between people. There are so many people trying to pull us apart, trying to say this is black and white. We can't build that bridge. But I do think, I believe in compromise. I believe in meeting being practiced, all those things. And that's why I don't understand why we have to have a fight between feminist and trans people. We need to build bridges there as well.”

    2024-07-07 · The Rest Is Politics: Leading · 84. Denmark's former PM on the power of centrist politics, fighting misogyny, and joining the Kinnock empire (Helle Thorning-Schmidt) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  9. “Who you love, it's the same person, whatever journey they're on, it's the same person. And it is the same person. And that's the message I want to just to give to, it's a simple message. And it's not very hard. And one thing that has saddened me a lot is to see that there's suddenly a fight between feminists. I consider myself a feminist. I've been a feminist since I was 12 years old and the trans community. And I think we should be on the same side. There's so much that to argue to say about trans community and feminists being on the same side. And I think if Milo and I can help on that discussion as well, we want to do that.”

    2024-07-07 · The Rest Is Politics: Leading · 84. Denmark's former PM on the power of centrist politics, fighting misogyny, and joining the Kinnock empire (Helle Thorning-Schmidt) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  10. “It is a little bit of a different debate because everything is less polarized and becomes less polarized. I wrote a book a couple of years ago about leadership and how my journey into leadership and what I met as a woman in politics, but I also talked about our kids and Milo's journey, which is a journey from being a girl to being a trans person now with gender fluid, basically. We started talking about this and I was surprised of how helpful it felt to a lot of families because they started writing to us so great you talk about us, you make it so much easier. And all I wanted was just to normalize how we talk about this and also say to parents, you don't need to understand everything. You don't need to understand everything that your kids do. And it doesn't matter what your kids do. You just need to be there and support that child.”

    2024-07-07 · The Rest Is Politics: Leading · 84. Denmark's former PM on the power of centrist politics, fighting misogyny, and joining the Kinnock empire (Helle Thorning-Schmidt) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  11. “Change but a small change where you change things for real people, and that's an honor, it's an honor to serve, and you should never forget that. So I would actually recommend going into politics.”

    2024-07-07 · The Rest Is Politics: Leading · 84. Denmark's former PM on the power of centrist politics, fighting misogyny, and joining the Kinnock empire (Helle Thorning-Schmidt) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  12. “No, no, I would advise my own children to go into politics and your children, everyone's children, because it is so rewarding, and you know that, Roy. It is so rewarding to serve your people. I mean, the biggest title and the title I will always be most proud of is being Prime Minister, because I was able to serve the Danish people as Prime Minister. It's a big honor. And you can change things in politics. I still look back at things that I did in the 10 years I was leader of my party. And when I was Prime Minister, when I changed my country for the people that I wanted to serve. And this is such a great honor. So I would recommend people going to politics, local politics, regional politics, and European politics, which is an amazing thing to do as well. I'll always be grateful for the five years I had in European Parliament because I felt I could be part of a change, not maybe a large.”

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  13. “Politics has honestly become a security risk, and we have to admit that. And also, I have friends who are no longer here because of who they were and because they were in politics. So you can't say that it's risk-free to go into politics. But I would advise young people to”

    2024-07-07 · The Rest Is Politics: Leading · 84. Denmark's former PM on the power of centrist politics, fighting misogyny, and joining the Kinnock empire (Helle Thorning-Schmidt) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  14. “Muscled himself To the photo, so there's this ridiculous photo, which I'm the only one who got, I got that photo. No one else has got that photo. And we just had a laugh. It was a moment of three people. We're the same age. We have nice working relationship, just taking a selfie. It was the year that self became part of the dictionary and it became the most selfie, most famous selfie ever. And I went from Johannesburg to Copenhagen. And when I landed, I was globally famous. And that was, it was so weird. And since then, and last time I met Barack Obama, he said, you got me into trouble. But it was a fun moment. But people were very worried about the day after.”

    2024-07-07 · The Rest Is Politics: Leading · 84. Denmark's former PM on the power of centrist politics, fighting misogyny, and joining the Kinnock empire (Helle Thorning-Schmidt) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  15. “And these two postits was actually basically reserved for Michelle and Barack. So they came in a little bit after Barack Obama had done his speech. So they came in. Obviously, we had a chat. I just learned to take a selfie from Johanna, my oldest daughter. So she has just taught me to take a selfie. So I said to Barak, we knew each other. We were working together. I said, we need to do this. This is like a new thing. We need to take a selfie. Obviously, what happens is that Cameron.”

    2024-07-07 · The Rest Is Politics: Leading · 84. Denmark's former PM on the power of centrist politics, fighting misogyny, and joining the Kinnock empire (Helle Thorning-Schmidt) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  16. “She wasn't angry. But she looked it. She wasn't. Yeah, you know, but you can't trust pictures like that. You should know that. It was an amazing event. It was Mandela's memorial service. It was like in a big stadium. People had like instruments and drums. It was a crazy atmosphere. And you will know this. It was so unusual. There was kind of reseating for Hessen States of government. Just go and sit somewhere. So I went in and there was like two post-its on two seats saying reserved. But then the next one, there wasn't a post-it. So I just sat there.”

    2024-07-07 · The Rest Is Politics: Leading · 84. Denmark's former PM on the power of centrist politics, fighting misogyny, and joining the Kinnock empire (Helle Thorning-Schmidt) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  17. “And it's a simplification of politics and the lack of trust we have in politics and politicians maybe not living up to the expectations if we just turn to social media and say it is your fault. And it's not because I say there's no one to blame.”

    2024-07-07 · The Rest Is Politics: Leading · 84. Denmark's former PM on the power of centrist politics, fighting misogyny, and joining the Kinnock empire (Helle Thorning-Schmidt) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  18. “You could also argue that you have got a voice to express your opinion and that that is a good thing. I'm not so much worried about your voice, Roy, but I do think that in many countries where they have oppressive regimes, you have an opposition that needs a voice. And those oppressive regimes, there's nothing they want more to say we shouldn't have social media, we shouldn't have free speech. So I think free speech is an amazing thing and we should always defend it. And then we shouldn't just say that people are so stupid that they can't decide who they want to be following. You know, when President Trump was limited on social media, on Twitter back then was Twitter and then also on meta platforms. He just did his own social media. So I'm not sure that we can say that it's just social media that has divided us. It's a lot of other things.”

    2024-07-07 · The Rest Is Politics: Leading · 84. Denmark's former PM on the power of centrist politics, fighting misogyny, and joining the Kinnock empire (Helle Thorning-Schmidt) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  19. “Let me push back No, I don't work for the Facebook. I am independent on meta. I am Meta's watchdog. So I criticize Meta every day of my life. But I do think we have a tendency to just adopt these simplified ways of seeing social media.”

    2024-07-07 · The Rest Is Politics: Leading · 84. Denmark's former PM on the power of centrist politics, fighting misogyny, and joining the Kinnock empire (Helle Thorning-Schmidt) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  20. “To be honest, I think it's a bit simplified way of seeing things because you can see whatever you like on social media and you can also ask not to see things on social media. You can go onto your feed. You can say, I don't want to see political things. I don't want to see advertising for this company. I don't want to see these words. There's so much you can do on your own feed. And I don't think people are pushed. It's like we are talking about people like they don't have a free will. If I want to see something that's happening which is illegal on social media, if I want to trade things that are illegal, if I want to gravitate towards the most extreme right on the most extreme left, I will find a way on social media. So it's not like we are just pawns.”

    2024-07-07 · The Rest Is Politics: Leading · 84. Denmark's former PM on the power of centrist politics, fighting misogyny, and joining the Kinnock empire (Helle Thorning-Schmidt) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  21. “We also have to have people understand the power that social media can have on them if they don't take charge of themselves. And users also have a personal responsibility here.”

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  22. “How do we get more voice to Indigenous people, to people who don't have a voice to girls and women in Iran, stuff like that, this is very important about social media and we must never forget that. Then there is also giving the opportunity for people to meet and to maybe make worse some of the tendencies we have in our time. That could be racist groups or very right-wing groups that have an opportunity to find each other. But I always think about this when people say social media has meant that we get more racist meetings online. We had a lot of racist meetings in the Second World War. People were perfectly capable of meeting each other in fascist movement across borders. So it's not only social media that makes this possible. So I think we need to be very clear about how we regulate big tech companies. We have to have regulation. We have to have oversight board like what I'm doing for men.”

    2024-07-07 · The Rest Is Politics: Leading · 84. Denmark's former PM on the power of centrist politics, fighting misogyny, and joining the Kinnock empire (Helle Thorning-Schmidt) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  23. “Yes and no. I think social media like everything else has got very positive sides to it. I personally love my Instagram. I love social media. You wouldn't be popular if you didn't have your social media. This podcast. So social media has been so good for a lot of things and particularly giving voice and agency to groups of people around the world who does not have voice and agency. And that is what I'm seeing every day when we're looking into cases. We are always asking.”

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  24. “Boris Johnson, to other leaders in Europe where people don't trust traditional politicians anymore, so they look elsewhere. And also they see their problems being different.”

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  25. “Two things. First of all, after the war, Second World War, everyone just wanted higher living standard. Everyone just wanted better jobs, better lives for their families. There was something really to fight for in those years, which we got through the 50s and 60s, 70s. Everything just got better all the time. Then after that and the time we live in now, people have a serious lack of trust in absolutely everything. When you measure trust, people don't trust capitalism, they don't trust democracy, they don't trust politicians, they don't trust journalists, they don't trust anything. And I think that lack of trust has meant that people are now prepared to vote for people who are completely outside the norm of how you are supposed to be in politics. They don't trust the old-fashioned politicians. So they start looking elsewhere. And there's a direct line between someone like President Trump.”

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  26. “Well, I think you can say you are world beating. I think that's the term he used all the time. If you are. I mean, if you are the best in the world, say it and be that. Denmark has just yesterday done an amazing climate deal where the first country in the world where we're actually putting a CO2 tax on agriculture, this is actually really leading the world in this space. And if you are talk about it and be that leader, what I don't think is great is if you say you are a leader and you're actually not, if you say you have the best health service in the world and you actually don't. And if you go on like that, I don't think that it goes down very well. And I think people will see right through that and say, are you actually world beating as he kept saying?”

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  27. “The proudness of the history cannot stand in the way of moving into the future. And that's what I feel that is perhaps missing.”

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  28. “I love monarchy. I don't mind the monarchy at all. We have a monarchy that we like. No, I just, I think this is just small examples. And I would never criticize a country that I lived in. And I love this country, but I do think”

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  29. “You get an appointment online, everything is online. I mean, we all have a number. We have a personal number that we use for everything connected to the state. We have files in our health system.”

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  30. “Need a digital system for everything. You need a digital system for everything. So, I mean, if I buy a house in Denmark, it's all digital. It literally takes.”

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  31. “Yeah, I don't mind that you treasure what was there before you and that you think that you're standing on the shoulders of people who were there before you. But you have to combine that with being modern as well. And I've lived in the UK and there are certain elements of this country which is just not very modern to pay your tax, to go to the doctor, to do is to buy a new house. It's just not a very modern country. And sometimes I feel that the past is holding this great country back.”

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  32. “Size does matter, and I would never presume that I knew how you run a big country. I know much more about a small homogenous country where we know all corners of the country. But I do think there is... Britain is a great country. I love this country, but there is an old fashioned vibe where there is a nostalgia, almost like nostalgia that seems to be very hard to depart from.”

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  33. “We need the UK to push us in terms of Ukraine. So there's so many things the UK can do for us. UK still a big supporter in terms of giving help to poor countries. So we have so much in this country that can help the European Union as well. And I'm hoping that we'll get that.”

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  34. “Many differences, particularly in the political system. I'm always hoping for Britain that you find your grander again, you find your amazing culture again. I was here at the Olympics and every time I think about what Britain should be, I think about the Olympics. It was so much fun. I was here for almost two weeks walking around talking to so many people. And there was that proudness of being British that I found so inspiring. This is still a cultural hub. All our music, films, theatre. We love the UK. And I want this country to be proud of who you are again and use that soft power in the world. And I'm hoping that in the future we will have UK becoming closer to the European Union again. We're working very well together in NATO.”

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  35. “They come together, they stop talking about the UK. They have stopped talking about the UK. And we also see it in this election. What we are interested in the European Union is the French election. We are interested in German politics. We're interested in Hungarian politics, in Spanish politics. This is where our interest is now. And it is quite... Significant how little we are hearing about the British election in a Danish media and European media right now.”

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  36. “I mean, we miss the UK. I mean, I worked very, very closely with British prime ministers. We had a lot of things in common. I still to this day don't understand why David Cameron didn't try harder to change the European Union before he put things to a referendum. I don't understand how that could happen because there was actually open doors in terms of changing things in the European Union that I think would have gone down really well in the UK. So I will never understand that. I didn't think he worked hard enough to change the European Union before he put a referendum in this country. But the interesting thing is in the European Union”

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  37. “The groups in the European member states that wanted to leave the European Union. And you could see it clearly in the Danish numbers. Denmark has always been conceived as a skeptical country. Now we're one of the most EU positive countries. I think we're well into the 60s of people who want to have more Europe and really be in the European Union. So what it did in Denmark was to basically, we looked at ourselves and saying, we're not doing any of that.”

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  38. “Me personally, I felt a huge loss. I remember that day in the European Parliament where the British flag went down and I was crying. And I know colleagues who were crying because the history of Britain and the UK is very connected to the Danish history came in at the same time. And when UK left the European Union, it was ours devastated by that. So I felt a big loss. The only good thing that came out of it is basically that the European member states actually, it really diminished”

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  39. “They didn't understand it. I think I would have been much better if I'd just had a normal Peter Hintreich as my husband who was a teacher or something. I think that would have been easier. And people were also making these big stories about this European couple and, you know, even in Denmark to be two European can be a difficult thing. I was just very different. And people... Saw me as different, and I admit I was different. I didn't grow up in a home where I knew a lot of people from my party. I became a member of the party very late. I was very different. And I obviously, and of course that was used against me.”

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  40. “Where people come from, and he understands what poverty is and what it means to be at the end of the month and not have enough money and have to prioritize your food budget, for example. I think that's the issue here. It's not so much his fancy clothes because I do think if he showed that he understood these kind of things, people would feel differently.”

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  41. “No, not we didn't even have a car, a washing machine in my household. So I come from a very not a poor background, but just a background where we didn't have a lot of money because my mom was providing for us. So I don't compare to Rishishunak. So I don't have a lot of advice from him. But I do think that one of the things that I think people are missing from him is that he understands.”

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  42. “Well, it's very hard because it actually is his background. What I always felt was unfair is that I come from a divorced background. We didn't have much money where I grew up. I grew up in a.”

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  43. “It was all fashioned misogyny and also a time where you could just write everything about, I mean, I was criticized for my bags, my shoes, I was called Gucci Helle, which was a really brilliant way of bringing me down in a way and saying I didn't have the competences. I was all about fashion. It was also about saying that I was too smart for my own party. So there were so many things, but it was old misogyny in that. And I can't describe it in other way.”

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  44. “Well, the most hurtful things that I ever had attacks on me was, of course, that the biggest obstacle for me, even in a country like Denmark, was to be a woman in this post. So everything else is insignificant compared to all the abuse I got from being just a woman and a different kind of person to head up my party and standing up saying, I would like to be prime minister here. So there's nothing that compares to that abuse I got in that space.”

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  45. “So moving and also being, I always wanted to talk about the issues that come when, I mean, we were a country before the 70s that didn't have any immigration. And then in the 70s, a lot of people came. And of course, that causes some problems and things you need to talk about. And you need to find a way of talking about those issues in a polite and good humane way. And that's what I wanted to do. When I am in Denmark now, I talk to everyone I always have. I don't think anyone has ever accused me of being racist, but I needed to find a way of talking about real issues that people had. And that was part of the journey. And obviously the left were accusing me of moving too far to the right and all those things, but I felt it was so important that our party was in the middle of politics and that people could understand that that's where we were.”

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  46. “Yeah, that's a very good description of absolutely everything. I knew when I became leader of my party, we had not been in government for 10 years. And for the Social Democratic Party in Denmark, that is a long time. We had gone through a few leaders and we just hadn't found a message that was appealing to people where people start trusting us again. So my whole job as leader of my party was to make people start trusting us again in our message. And that meant we had to change our stance on tax, the economy, and immigration and integration. Those were the big issues. They were like the top of mind issues for everyone. And if we didn't change our messaging around that, but not only our messaging, also how we felt politically, our thinking around politics, then I knew we could never win.”

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  47. “That could surprise me in terms of the hardship and how many sleepless nights you have and how hard it is. So I was never afraid of that because I knew that you could do it, but I also knew that you could find yourself afterwards and have a good family and have love and fun and all the other things that I that was part of the Kinuk life.”

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  48. “Organize The interesting thing I got into the family in 1993 basically. So after the 92 election. So, what I had to deal with or had to understand in the beginning was how hard that had been. And I really understand.”

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  49. “Well, it was funny. Steven, I met when we were doing European studies and we had formed like this political group, which is, was it like a social democratic group in the college? And that's how we met, basically. So we met discussing politics, which was amazing. And we always talked politics, but it really, for me, it confirmed where I belonged politically. I came into this huge family, not only the Kinuks, but you guys as well and the whole family of politics. And it was just amazing to be part of a new conversation that I didn't know much about. But I hadn't realized that it was like a political family. And you know what? You just meet a guy. We were very young and then you just start understanding what kind of family is this and what kind of weird friends have they got and stuff like that.”

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  50. “I think in our health service, we are struggling. We have areas of our countries where it's difficult to recruit doctors. We have hospitals that are overburdened. We have many issues like that. We also have elderly people that don't feel they get the care that they need. And disability is also an issue where we keep talking about how we actually make sure that people with disabilities get fairly treated in the system. Our problems are exactly the same, but I do think we should put that burden on ourselves when you have that high taxation, you should deliver world-class services and Danes expect world-class treatment when they have cancer, when they have a child with disabilities or mentally illness, they expect world-class services. And I think people would agree with me in Denmark that they're not always getting that.”

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