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  1. Deployment to my earlier points. People are like, well, how do we really use this? And that's where now this next generation of companies that are coming are just more sophisticated at that is the early mover advantage in some of those companies really going to take hold or not. I think it remains to be TBD.

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  2. So, you know, if you look at Harvey or who we're invested in Lagora and Judea, take the legal space. It's not just that they scream the loudest and they want it. I think the interesting thing that has happened with AI, I want to go back to sort of one important observation, which is for the first time, every CEO in every industry in every country is thinking about what do I do with this technology. Never happened before. Cloud wasn't like that. Certainly PCs weren't like that. Internet wasn't like that. Everybody's like, what do I do with this? So all of a sudden, in every department, people popped up early and they got to go around and there was resonance with the customers. There wasn't as much evangelism for the earliest companies. Everybody just wanted to engage. So that's why these companies got initial momentum so fast. But then I want to go back to my second mover advantage. But some of the ones that have started after had a chance to take a step back and be like, oh, wait, there's a better technology now. And I think we've learned the proposition needs to be better. The initial diffusion in the zeitgei was really fast, but the actual

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  3. On a revenue basis, more interesting than the stuff we thought was the most interesting five years ago that speaks to the way value concentrates in the hands of a few companies, that speaks to the fact that these technologies underneath our so high leverage that they're potent in making these companies grow fast when you actually get a product right. That's what's going on. Durability is a question. Like the thing that's unknown is, you know, we never had so much scale without kind of just taking durability for granted. And what's the question that we all grapple with today? Lower build is an amazing company. Anton's done a great job. Is that going to be around? Mercur is an amazing company. The people that are naysayers, that's what they say. The people that believe in it, like, you know, we have a huge conviction in Merkur, we think we have our own thesis. So it's sort of everybody's kind of grappling with this and we all have our theories and some people will get lucky and I do think some of these companies that grow really fast in this will also not be around.

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  4. The internal conversation I had about this was, of course, it matters, but the normal has changed. When we did some Sara and Gusto and some of these triple, triple Tago, triple, triple, double, double, right? You look at these companies and say, wait a minute, going from one to three to nine to 27 is not interesting or 1 to 5 to 9 to 27 is not whatever the math is not interesting, you got to go like 1 to 15 to 20 to 100. They're all

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  5. The U.S. defense primes were built off of sovereignty. We were the biggest allocator of spend in defense, and that's what Lockheed Martin and Rayton and Boeing, that's a lot of what it was. And then sovereignty also dictated who and which countries they're sold to and what Nago State Department gets involved, but like it was all dictated by then. I think AI is that strategic a technology.

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  6. And so I am bullish on what they will do, even though I was anxious about it because he and his team are growing up. I think they're learning how to be in this competitive world. And by the way, there were no, if there were two companies not existing in this world, open AI and anthropic. You said this is the hottest startup in the world in terms of how fast they're scaling and what they've accomplished and their valuation and progress. It's just you have the overhang of these two monsters that the flywheel going with capital and products and so on. And that's why we say is this interesting. I actually think they'll build a pretty compelling business. I see a lot of interest from companies in Europe but all over the world that want an open source player. Like who else is truly dedicated to open source that is doing it in a way that enterprises care? It's not meta. They're not an enterprise company. In the West, it's really Mistral today.

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  7. He changed, but I think this is the point, not only in his ability to aggregate capital, he stayed focused on doing really disciplined work in the way to build models. And I think they were a compute constrained and capital constraints, so they fell behind, but I think they've caught up. Like everything I hear now is that their models.

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  8. It's a great question. So, you know, Jeanette's on the board there, and we talk a lot about it. We've had many conversations and meals with Arthur about this as well. I look at that company and I see Arthur's growth from a scientist to a CEO. And remember, it's a two-year-old company.

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  9. Productivity is necessarily going to slow because the economics are way too compelling for that to not happen, in my view.

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  10. I don't think it's going to be that it's a speed bunk that spirals us down. So for the simple reason that with every new model with its capabilities, there's a certain amount of that content of white collar jobs, the $10 trillion that you mentioned, that is now doable. And what the speed bump is not going to irreverse that. So I think I have this sort of visual in my mind where we're kind of cumulatively taking more and more of the labor content and AI is better than us in more and more of it. And over time, it's going to be most of it. And when robotics comes, it'll be all of it. And so in that context, you know, a lot can be already done. We have the energy, we have the compute to be able to support that. The question is the really frontier stuff where we're going to do with that. And I think you could see speed bumps here. Speed bump could be that the architecture doesn't scale and you need these world models to take on or some of the new architectures people are developing that are non-language oriented that could maybe would be needed. So I think the frontier could slow, but I don't think this transition of labor or melting of labor into

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  11. Don't see why not. I don't see why technology is not going to do most of that work we're doing companies better than humans do, which going back to your earlier point, market forces will take us there then. It'll be cheaper, it'll be faster, it'll be better, and it'll give the businesses more leverage. So I think that's a real trend we're going to head down the path

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  12. Think you'll have a couple global ones and a couple of sovereign ones in Ario. That probably is what'll end up sort of happening in AI, in my view. Not everybody's going to make it. You have a lot of other models that have been funded, different approaches as well. We'll see what happens to those. Is there like a new architecture that emerges? But it's not going to be that many. But think about the size of the market. You're talking about the labor market. Is the AI market?

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  13. I'll take you back to the clouds. You could use the same logic on the clouds to be like, hey, they're going to get commoditized. You'll have three, probably three big telcos in their regio. There are probably three big clouds, probably three big AI models. I'm sort of empirically saying that. Think about the margins that the cloud companies have. It's like 70s. I do think these companies will all figure out the margin structure really well and at scale because there's so many different ways they can add value to hold on to that margin. And they're all kind of getting specialized into like different areas where they are going to be doing that

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  14. Margin matters absolutely. And I actually think that's another place where they've done a good job. The reality is that when you think about the ROI in the coding space, you're doing the work. Coding agent is essentially a replacement of engineering, right? You start with low-end sort of engine junior engineers to more senior engineers. Even a junior engineer makes 80 to 100 grand a year. So your pricing power is actually pretty significant. And if you're truly doing that kind of work, margins are not going to be an issue. And margins already are not an issue for anticropy. They have a good command. They've been very disciplined about how they've built their business.

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  15. Something like that. My point is that it's half a trillion dollar company by the end of the next year. I'm not saying that's what it's going to be, but if they hit their numbers, I don't see why that won't happen. I'm just saying public market comps. Like that's what those things are going to be valued at.

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  16. Not a spoiler at all. Yeah, yeah. I get a caution. But if you think about it, that business, which would still grow 200% to go from, let's say, let's say nine's number this year in 27, that's tremendous growth. And you put any multiple on that, that is a very valuable company. Think about technology multiples on that kind of a growth. That's a really valuable company. significant headroom because the market size is so large even from there that they can maintain good growth doesn't have to be this crazy growth but they only price it at 20 times this year's arr so 20 to 20 times 27 if you think

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  17. But hey, you can just interrupt for saying let's say it's 27. I don't know what the numbers they have shared, and they've always done better than they've said, by the way, too. But let's say it's 27.

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  18. Look, now we're bet against Sam, but I feel like he's doing a lot of things and he's doing it in every single dimension, right? The phone, the data center, the infrastructure, and all that. I think Anthropic is a much more focused kind of a product-oriented company. They have not taken as much money to get here. In their MOI, then the early investors would in OpenAI. If that math is correct, the one that you were referring to.

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  19. Well, I think that relationship was, if you remember when that was done, everybody society was brilliant. That was an incredible way to essentially buy innovation. It's like what biotech do, right? And pharma companies do, buy innovation in AI because the internal efforts maybe weren't as productive and gave them the halo effect to be the leading AI company, gave them an entry. But Azure's had a huge draft because of open AI as well. And they have really gained market share in the cloud industry as a result. That was an amazing investment for Microsoft. Is that an enduring investment? No, obviously now they've gone at odds with each other because there's an ambition that collides between the cloud companies. And so they want to have more choice. So they want to have anthropic at the table as well. That's just normal good business thinking. I get it. Taking that bet was hugely valuable for Microsoft. And if you look at the return, by the way, if they put in 20 billion, they're the ones who have the highest multiple return as well. So it was a great investment on a financial basis and way more on a strategic basis.

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  20. Well, I think OpenAI, I saw that early round. You know, Sam's a force of nature, and I've said this publicly. I mean, the guy can bend reality and he has. He changed the world. I just couldn't get my arms around the structure. If those numbers are correct, I don't know if they're entirely correct. You would say 5 billion, the $200 million at the billion dollar round only generated 25x. Our best companies like Livongo and Circle and others, you know, Stripe and others, our first rounds were not 25x. They were hundreds of X in terms of return. So I agree with you. Dilution took a huge toll here, but for two reasons. One is because that structure led to hint nonprofit needs to be given a share. And the second is the compute that was needed to make this happen. The first one to provide that compute was Microsoft and they had a lot of leverage. That was a good deal for Microsoft. They made a huge amount of return because without that, this was never going to be a company. So I think it's just the sequencing of who really took the risk sort of risk adjustment with capital. Microsoft maybe took more risk in a lot of ways.

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  21. Depends on how the business. You have to be very fundamentally focused on actual economics, revenues, margins, profitability scale. This market size for these things is endless. $500 billion payroll is developers in the world. Probably I think it's about $10 trillion of white-collar jobs. If I have that generally correct, it's an insanely large market and you're naturally well positioned to be one of two or three players that's going to go capture it. So if you believe that, this company could be 10 to 20 times bigger from here and is well priced even at this valuation. If it keeps on that trajectory, of course you would want to invest. Who would not want to invest?

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  22. This round probably was the cheapest round I got done this year on multiple spaces. Which company was raising capital at 20 times ARR? They're all raising capital at 50 to 100 times ARR at a scale that's like 10 times bigger than any of the companies that are raising capital. So like risk adjusted, if you think about it, and I should say risk adjusted carefully because durability of everything in the models is highly unclear. So in that cohort, I would say that was the best price round you could have done. I'm not surprised it was 5x oversubscribed.

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  23. Was at the end of last year, so it was, I think it was under a billion, if I recall, and they're going to, they publicly said they're going to grow nine, time's that. That's not the forecast we modeled. I mean, they've done way better than we thought, which is amazing. It's an incredible team, very values-oriented, very execution-focused.

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  24. Because that's when the use case that was going to draw them in and build a relationship with the enterprises became very clear and could scale, and it has. When we invested

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  25. Look, we invested in a topic only less than a year ago at the $60 billion round where we saw that the use case around coding was becoming an interesting application that was going to distinguish them. These models started to become distinguished. Obviously everybody wants to do everything, but OpenAIs to me is more of a consumer company with ChatGPT. I know they have enterprise ambitions, codecs, et cetera. I get it. And Anthropic kind of became an apps company in the cloud world with coding as a use case. And we're showing really good traction. That was a time for the first time we felt are we really betting on these companies with tremendous valuations, tremendous burns, tremendous dilution towards some abstract AGI goal, or they're actually going to be businesses. So I actually think risk adjusted, that was the round. That was interesting to do as somebody who studies investment decisions and companies say, where did people get lucky and where do they actually make a great call?

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  26. Can you actually overcome that and make sure you remain well positioned on the new sort of technology stacks or not? That's the advantage that I think second mober companies could theoretically have in these different verticals.

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  27. You're seeing this in different use cases, take customer support, for example. When new models come out, if you start building your company, when you were in the chat G3 era versus 4 versus 5, you just have more tools at your disposal. So the go-to-market advantage you may have created in a year having started on GPT4s versus five might be anemic compared to the technology advantage that you have if you start in the GPT-5 or the choices you make and how fast you can move because the models are stronger because it's like you're getting this potent force unfair advantage and are you really going to sort of re-architect everything you did and take a step back or not? Because you actually have good momentum. So what's happening is that the good and greater companies getting created with each new model and the companies that start later end up having some advantages because of technology. And the question is, can you not be bogged down by technical debt, even though technical debt used to be on the order of a decade of coding, not a year of coding?

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  28. Way that the compute productivity is captured on Shores so it doesn't leak from a lot of the places to sort of a single company or a single country because that creates imbalance. You want to be inclusive and abundant in your mindset with AI creation. But is the competitive dynamic

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  29. The way we see it, we are in a bipolar world for sure. Despite all the recent turbulences around tariffs and relationship between the different regions, US, Europe, India very aligned in terms of core values, and I do think it's going to settle down to be a place where AI gets developed with a common set of values. I think the Chinese system is different. And the race to me is only in the context of which AI is better because capitalism will force you adoption of that. Think about deep-seek and the open source models that have come about out of China. People are using them in the US because they're better. Now, the question is, which AI ends up, and there's not much difference between that. I think China and US are very comparable in what they are in AI today. A few months lead here and there. I'd even argue there's always a second mover advantage to people building on top. So I think they're pretty comparable. It is important that you see AI infrastructure in the West gain market share in businesses and be more pervasive. It's equally important to make sure it's done in a

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  30. Of the need for global resilience. On the other side, I am curious is the playbook going to change and how you become market leaders in this next phase.

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  31. Just accept that. And it's like you could change that Look, I think when we invest in these companies, we always want to see that they will be the leaders in their own market. We have a lot of confidence Helsing with this mission, its execution, its access to capital, talent should be the company that gets disproportionate share of defense in Europe. Andro is doing that in US. We think this company, Rafi, is going to do that in India that we invested in. And then they should go and be competitive in the global ecosystem. Also, I actually think maybe there's a new innovation in partnerships. We have not innovated partnerships ever. It's sort of the same boring old metaphors. And the question is, could these companies all think about engaging? It's not what's happening yet, but are they these resilient ecosystems that get created where they have special advantages because of where they sit in which ecosystems and they can leverage each other to gain more global share as well? So I'm sort of very keen to see while on one side we've created some structured inflation because

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  32. By the way, I love your post with your mom. I think that's a great thing that you do every weekend. I enjoyed your last post about breaking the idea of 90% of your time you spend with your parents is before 18. That was an amazing, insightful comment.

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  33. Well, positioned with the American company's B2B global leaders. That's the place where I think rubber meets the road in our ecosystem. We're talking about sort of companies funded in our world, founders. How will they become global leaders given that there'll be more friction? That to me is the place where there'll be some challenges.

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  34. My belief is that US is very well positioned. We have energy, we have AI, we have the largest market, we have the largest entrepreneurial ecosystem. In a lot of ways we're very well positioned. And I think in the short term, in some ways, we're actually increasing our modes. If we really focus on everyone investing in the US and creating more capital and whatnot, when we fund companies, whether it's in Europe or in US, I always think about it as, hey, you need to go win your market and then you need to become a global leader. And the thing I worry about in the US today is mostly what is the sentiment and the appetite of the world to embrace companies coming out of the US and let them be global leaders? And I think that's where there's going to be work to do it because we're doing this one-time reshift with tariffs and everything on, hey, we need to realign commerce and trade. But we were also the keeper of the world order in a lot of ways. And as we are disrupting that, what is the relationship going to be with European countries?

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  35. New successful businesses everywhere versus it's going to be a few concentrated ones. I think that to me is the place where policy has to create conditions where it allows for opportunity for many as opposed to opportunity for a few. That's the role governments can play when it comes to technology

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  36. I think about innovation in AI in two parts. One is every region's trying to figure out how to become leaders in core infrastructure, and we're racing to it. And there's not going to be many, but there weren't that many clouds. There's not going to be that many AI model companies that actually become at scale and potentially be even bigger than what these cloud companies became. I think that's current course and speed, that's probably what's going to happen. What happens on top? What's the ecosystem we're building and how it interplays with consumers across the board? What happens to healthcare? What happens to education? How are we thinking about those things? Is there a level playing field so there can be a vibrant, diverse ecosystem that gets built on top? That's what I think a lot about. So, for example, is the Amazon of healthcare going to be an ecosystem lots of companies and sort of a more resilient system or it's going to be like some company that comes along and they just control healthcare. The latter is not good for us. And so how do we create a level playing field for startups, for founders, so that opportunity can manifest into

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  37. We won't feel that in the next 10 years, and you and I will make a lot of money. Our funds will do great, and our partners will generate great returns. But what do we create on the other side? And I think that's the thing that we have to think hard about.

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  38. Am worried about that. The whole idea of can we build these companies that can focus on being the most profitable, the biggest, but also in a way that they're inclusive, that's something that I think a lot about. There's this moment, if you think about the last five years, we've had wars, we had a pandemic, we had a situation where because of wars, we actually US kicked Russia out of SWIFT. So financial infrastructure got questioned. Every part of our energy crisis happened. Every part of our core pillar of society where capitalism maybe is starting to break all sort of manifested over the last few years. And then AI comes along as an answer to all this. So now the choice we have to make is are we going to build these business in a way that the value accrues to very, very few? Or can we actually do it with a mindset of abundance where everybody benefits? And that's a choice that we have in the way we set up the companies of the future. And I do worry that if it's not a mindset of abundance, then that's not sustainable in the very long term.

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  39. I think you can't make progress if capitalism is now working. But I do think capitalism is a privilege. If you think about what happened in the last 15, 20 years, a lot of the nationalism all around the world is because social media essentially struck a chord with the core issue that all the technology productivity didn't really get passed on properly to everybody in society. It created multiple multi-trillion dollar companies, but our own innovation ecosystem, how much did that capture and how much did society really capture? Actually, a small percentage. We look back and say, wow, venture capital, there's been a real boon in the last 15 years. But when you look at the overall value created in venture compared to the MAG 7, it's noise. And so are you really creating a world where there's opportunity and capitalism can kind of do its thing? You have to make sure you protect that. That part of it, I do think government has a player role in. Beyond that, you got to be very free market-oriented. Let bottoms up innovation, stuff that you and I.

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  40. I think market forces are way stronger than that. I agree with you. But I'm thinking that's a little bit of what they take comfort in is that we have time to figure this out. And I don't think we have time unless we're a lot more intentional about it.

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  41. I find folks in Singapore to be very impressive. I recently went there and I spoke at their National Singapore Day and I was just blown away by the depth of thought that the politicians there have done. I have to tell you, Prime Minister of Greece is very impressive. He's thinking about how do we really be pragmatic in deploying this, have met with Prime Minister Tarmer here. I know there is some announcements being happening this week as well around AI. So I know they're making some moves. I don't see enough of that, hey, let's think comprehensively about this. The answer I usually get when I talk to heads of states about diffusion of AI and this jobs issue that we just talked about is they have belief that if it's going to be that disruptive that society will just slow it down, you just can't have a world where I know in Silicon Valley we covered a billion dollar employee with a company with a single employee, but you just can't have a world where that's what business looks like and people have no work. And so at some point, the interplay of business in society will sort of force it to be a more stable.

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  42. Productivity gains onshore as well. The governments need to think about this as they are architecting this sort of next phase of their transformation with AI.

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  43. Not enough. I think people are still grappling with what does AI really mean, how fast is it going to diffuse? They're not even thinking enough about reskilling. I'll leave you with one interesting thought on this particular topic. We're in London today, okay? Imagine if every nurse and every lawyer and every accountant that works in London becomes an AI agent of some company in the United States in the next 10 years. You're going to hollow out a lot of your labor productivity and give it to a US company or a Chinese company. My point is more about it could actually hollow out the service sector just like we hollowed out manufacturing jobs for globalization before. Getting every region to think about this, this is actually a point that Jeanette makes with her European Champions Initiative a lot, which is how do you retain productivity onshore in these countries so that while you do the AI transformation, you're maintaining vibrancy not only because your businesses got more profitable, but also because you're capturing the

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  44. The rest are AI agents. This is to be provocative, but they're sort of saying if that was going to be our plan, how do we get there? This is the kind of stuff people are thinking about. Now, it's not going to happen in the next five years, but are organizations going to potentially change that much over the next 10 to 15 years. It's a non-trivial probability that can happen.

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  45. This adoption of AI into business is going to be fast over 12 to 18 months or 5 to 10 years. I would say this is a five year problem. And I say that because if you go back and think about the physics with which these companies are getting built, the companies were building. You have to put these teams together. They have to go get some customers. They can demonstrate progress on. Then they have to start accelerating growth. Only after a few years of that do you start to make a dent in the industry enough that it becomes a problem. And so just the diffusion of technology has its own physics. So it's not immediate, but five years is also not a long time. And so what I'm seeing is that these companies, enough of them are going to start being successful in these different areas and they're going to start impacting jobs in a material way. I'll give you a really interesting anecdote that the CEO with the large consulting companies told me. One of their big clients came to them and said, we have 50,000 employees today. Draw up a plan for us that in five years we are 100,000 employees, but only 10,000 of them are human.

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  46. That's why these things are hitting a wall, but that's why this MIT study is giving you the signal that it's giving you. One place where businesses already outsourced and let go of core operations was wherever they wanted to get labeled labor arbitrage over the last 40 years. So our whole thesis around AI rollups was everywhere you offshored for labor benefit you're going to onshore for AI productivity. That's where we're seeing a lot of this. So we've bought call centers. I'll give you an example. We bought a call center in Philippines, 3,000 employees in one of our companies called Crescendo. It's going to have a huge change in the said count. It's going to go down quite a bit as this fully gets AI enabled. My first question to the team was, well, what are those people going to do in Philippines? And how many are there? So every country that built their middle class off of offshore labor, how do we really help them think about reskilling those people to be more successful in the world of AI? This is what's not being talked about enough.

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  47. Okay, I do think there is merit to the MIT study for the following reason. When you think about transforming an enterprise with AI, you actually have to do four things correctly. First is you have to get your data infrastructure ready so that your company can adopt AI. Your data readiness is huge. Infrastructure readiness is huge. Second is you need models that understand your business. You have to train these models in the context of your secret sauce, your business. Third is you have to think about a workforce transformation because now you're going to have humans and you're going to have AI working next to each other. Some humans are going to manage AI agents, some AI agents are going to manage humans. Imagine how the orc charts have to change. And the fourth, for all this to work, you actually need courage at the top. The CEOs need to really get behind it to drive it. So the idea that all four of these things are happening in a company to make the adoption of AI go from beyond just prototyping OpenAI or an anthropic model to really creating change in your business is very difficult.

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  48. People are starting to give lip service to it, but it hasn't hit people yet. We're talking about this earlier. We have a lot of these AI transformations we're doing with these service businesses, these AI rollups, as they're called. And I'm seeing this. I'm seeing what's going to happen to jobs as AI gets adopted to bring efficiency and productivity to these white-collar jobs all around the world.

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  49. The most significant macro shift today that not enough people are talking about is thinking about jobs. I have gone around the world. We have a real focus on understanding how to help governments think about transformations. And the transformation of any country we think is in four parts. One is how do you apply AI to deterrence? Because if without peace, you don't have capitalism. And if there's no capitalism, then business can't really be a change vector. So you need peace. You need to think about transforming healthcare because we just came out of a pandemic and we saw what it can do and we're still reeling from it. You need to accelerate diffusion of AI.

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  50. Deterrent solutions. And they want to see indigenous industries emerge from a resilience perspective. So we should make sure we're backing that team. So I think it ends up being embrace serendipity, be humble that these founders are going to take us in the world in a way that we just don't understand. And then be intentional where we think there are large macro shifts happening so that we can play certain sectors with a bit more of a thematic lens.

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