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“But what did he say at the time yesterday? Yesterday at the Times, he said, how do you know you're going to be successful? He didn't say Twitter or voters. He said, When you all think I do a good job and I don't mean as a conservative, I mean when you think I do a good job. And I'm definitely paraphrasing that and perhaps bastardizing a bit, but it was where the media settles out on. How he does a good job writ large, not in terms of imposing a governing worldview or structure, but he wants to be said that he in an ubiquitous and globally media recognized sense did a good job.”
2016-11-28 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Hilary Rosen and Juleanna Glover, political consultants · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“But this is, in every sense, the two sides of Donald Trump, that the unknown of Donald Trump. Does he care more about the New York Times and what they say, or is really his success dependent on being able to effectively lie on Twitter? Right. So, you know, therein lies the excitement of the next four years.”
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“And that's how his relevance is playing out in the world. And it has been how it has been for him his entire life. And I don't think that's going to change. So although I have a tremendous amount of concern about fake news and Trolls and you know the harassment and the really grotesque behavior that happens in so much social media I settle back on the belief that it's going to be a vibrant and free press that is going to thrive under this administration.”
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“Listening to Hillary, I just continue to be stunned by this fact that, yes, we live in a world where Donald Trump can communicate directly to voters, and he clearly values that tool. But I think he values that tool, but not more than he values what the major papers say about him”
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“I would say authentic communication because it is his voice, but just a huge media fact-checking problem because he is completely unabashed about lying on Twitter and having his perspective repeated over and over and over again with fake news. I do think that if Facebook and Google and Twitter want to survive, they are going to have to deal with this problem. There is accountability there. Absolutely. And so I think that the steps that Facebook has taken are good so far. Google's done it on the advertising side, but I don't think it's going to be enough. They're going to have to invest in resources to address this problem.”
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“There is no going back. I saw a poll yesterday that said that 60% of Americans want Donald Trump to shut his Twitter account down because they think it's not a good way for a president to communicate. But that's just not going to happen. It's been two years. I agree with that. Too useful, too exciting for him. And I think we are in a new era of”
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“User data, and it'll be interesting to see if Donald Trump's favorite media will end up feeling the force of law enforcement in what they do because he's promised more aggressive law enforcement there. Look, I think that”
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“Once a president elects policy circles come to understand how quickly this is potentially coming, those are the voters that he cares most about. Those are the voters that put him in the White House. And just as he says, he doesn't, you know, it's the atypical anti-usual conservative belief of we need to have Medicare and Medicaid and Social Security reform, Trump has opposed that. I think he's going to come out also in an unexpected way on how to manage the displacement that's going to occur as AI becomes more highly utilized across the country.”
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“Right. And so this administration is going to have to be careful about Supporting these companies where that ends up being the only opportunity. It's like going back to school and there is this viewpoint, I think, by many that there are thousands of vacancies in tech and without people to fill them. This, let's say, more progressive viewpoint of we need to figure out how to get more folks educated so that they can be more supported in the new economy has been so dismissed, if you will, by the Trump campaign over the course of the last six months. But it's inevitably where they'll have to go.”
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“Of social support system. The whole retraining question, I think, is also an area that we're going to have to inject into the infrastructure debate. And I think that and bandwidth have got to be part of the conversation of any sort of massive spending bill on infrastructure that's upcoming. And there will be a tremendous amount of education that needs to be done that this is coming quicker than anyone is expecting.”
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“And if regulators someday in the not too distant future decide that autonomous vehicles or quasi autonomy are indeed safer than humans behind the wheel, and you see this, suddenly ubiquitous and inexpensive technology being downloaded into vehicles, that's going to be a great and enormous cultural and economic challenge for this country. And I don't think policymakers are necessarily thinking about how you take a 50-year-old male or female who has been productively and happily employed throughout their life, making a contribution to their community, taking care of their children, making their mortgage, and suddenly they're replaced by a machine at a faster rate than anyone is expecting. And how do you take that person and ensure that they have dignity after moving into some”
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“I think California entrepreneurs absolutely understand the potential of AI to completely transform how people work in coming years. I don't think that there's either a Washington elite or a Donald Trump advisory circle that understands how potentially quickly this is coming. If you look at the numbers on just sort of people who make their money driving in some way, shape or form, I believe that settles out at around three and ten men earn their livings behind the wheel.”
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“So let's end on that talk about that issue because a lot of these, one of the things that's sort of being discussed in Silicon Valley a lot these days is artificial intelligence and the impact on jobs, that a lot of these, what Hillary was saying is entirely right. These jobs, not just the manufacturing jobs, but the jobs that have been touted as the growth of the economy, they're also going away, radiologists, for example. So a good example everybody always uses. We're not going to need radiologists in the future. There's hotel drones right now taking the place of people who are delivering food. It just goes on and on and on. And a lot of the new developments at self-driving cars. And I know, Juliana, you've consulted on this issue quite a bit. Where those are all going, where those are all job replacement technologies, pretty much all of them. Uber is the same thing. Everyone's working on self-driving cars and things like that. Why don't you talk a little bit about the impact of AI and does this administration understand the possible real contract?”
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“Trump promised would all come back. So, what's going to substitute for them? Where is growth going to occur? So, the more that this administration takes a hands-off approach on business, the more trouble Donald Trump is in when it comes to his Comes to his reelect. And so the more money that goes into CEO pay versus and consolidation and job cuts, the harder it is for him to feel and be successful. So I do think you have this sort of historic Republican establishment pull to let the marketplace work its will. And that is probably more the Paul Ryan and Mitch McConnell congressional Republican leave the marketplace alone. That is going to go up against the Donald Trump, Steve Bannon, these economic populists are angry for a reason and we have to address that. And so which way that goes...”
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“The EC wants to get a piece of that, the UK wants to get a piece of that. So I do think that these companies have to have more of a potentially global outlook than they had, but it will start from this really significant framing of how are individual workers going to benefit individual consumers. And I think that will start to be more of a global problem. You know, let's face it, these jobs are not coming back, the ones that Donald Trump...”
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“I think that they may become more aggressive as we've seen kind of a populist right as opposed to a populist left taking on more power in Europe. I think they'll end up with the same consequences. The other thing that we've seen in Europe is an increased desire for more tax enforcement, right? For all of that U.S. money in theory parked overseas”
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“So, in that regard, though, Europe opposite stance, you've got a very aggressive person in Marguerite Vestager and others in Europe where these companies don't sail through quite so easily and these mergers don't sail through. Google is still under continual watch by the Europeans Does that stop them, or if they get, they have had pretty much of a pass here in this country? Do you see that being that Europeans become more aggressive?”
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“In mergers that are going to go introduced in the future and going on now, I don't think that that's going to have anything to do with whether this White House opposes or supports them. I think it's going to be entirely a communications function. As to whether this is, you know, as Hilary just said, what's the impact on consumers? And again, that will play out front page major papers. Let's add the Washington Post because I do think he'll be reading The Washington Post when he's going to be in D.C.”
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“Let's go back to the consumer question. So assuming this president elect, the only way to communicate with him is going to be on the front page of the time of the New York Times or New York Post. The storytelling around what big mergers are going to mean for consumers and voters and where those are positions where they might end up costing Middle America more of their hard-earned dollars. That's where I think you're going to see some real trepidation as to whether these big mergers are going to be able to go through. Absolutely the disposition at the Department of Justice and the Antitrust Division is going to be proved to us that this is anti-competitive. Not this is anti-competitive, prove that it isn't, which is sort of how Democrats historically have come at sort of the antitrust arena. But I'm not...”
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“Not just in how they're dealt with in the public policy sphere, but how they're dealt with in the marketplace I do think that there is a significant amount of capital activity that we're going to see. The ATT Time Warner merger is a great example of completely upending and full disclosure. Company, as I said, works for ATT in upending how we think about content and how we think about platforms. And all of a sudden... These companies that have had really distinctive businesses. Businesses. You're either a platform company or a content company. I think that distinction is going to go away.”
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“I don't think we're ever going to go back because I think the populism of the day that fueled a Trump candidacy that helped derail a Clinton candidacy is not going back. And I think that the way that people think about Big business the way that people think about growth is really, really important for these companies brands, not just. So”
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“You can't have as much money as you have now in the capital markets and not see a huge amount of consolidation. Big companies have just so much money available to them. And so I think the deal market that we have seen active over the last couple of years will continue only. It will continue much more unabated. You know, I think the Justice Department is in litigation over five big mergers now between the Justice Department and the FTC. I just don't think we're going to see that as much in the Trump administration, although I do still think that the changing dynamic of mergers will not go back, and that is that companies need to define their consolidation in a frame of the public interest as opposed to the shareholder interest.”
2016-11-28 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Hilary Rosen and Juleanna Glover, political consultants · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Because we don't have a group party. Media, big mergers, lots of them are going to happen. And I think most people feel in tech there's going to be a lot, a lot of mergers happening, if not some IPOs going forward and things like that. There's going to be a lot of activity in tech around finances. Let's talk a little bit about this administration's viewpoint of this. Now, Hillary, you had talked earlier that there's a lot of pro-merger people here, and you think these are going to sail through.”
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“I've been joking all week on that point, which is although he's been bashing the media incessantly throughout his campaign and continues now, you're exactly right, Hillary. It is the New York Times, the New York Post, the papers that he's woken up and read every single day of his life that are going to be the most powerful in this next New World. And I think that that's potentially a great tool and a transparent tool in working with this president. We don't expect that he's necessarily going to read briefing books that are produced by hundreds of staffers in the White House. But we do know that he's going to wake up every morning and look at the New York Times. And if different interests can communicate their issues that way, it's a clear tool to use. I'm not saying it's uncomplicated, but I think it's something that the entire world can get their head around is he's going to read the Times every day.”
2016-11-28 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Hilary Rosen and Juleanna Glover, political consultants · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“You're right, except there are the realities of, you know, real people feeling very threatened by this president and a whole host of civil rights issues. And so being associated with him is just a dangerous front. But as we've learned this week, Donald Trump probably cares more about what the New York Times and its readers care about him than almost anybody. Let's not ever forget that. It's a significant way to influence the situation.”
2016-11-28 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Hilary Rosen and Juleanna Glover, political consultants · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And just red and ready to walk because I do think that although I was a very prominent Never Trumper and I have, you know, I think that it's so vitally important that we give him an open mind and as much advice and support as we possibly can because he's just going to be too incredibly powerful to limit the circles of advisory services that are available to him.”
2016-11-28 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Hilary Rosen and Juleanna Glover, political consultants · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“But wait, wait, Heather. I agree that people who go into this administration should potentially be put in an untenable situation. But I do believe absolutely that somebody like Harold Ford, if he is at a point in his life where he can do this and he thinks he can be helpful, he should go in, but he should have his resignation letter written as he goes to all Democrats ready to walk.”
2016-11-28 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Hilary Rosen and Juleanna Glover, political consultants · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Look, I think that if Harold Ford takes this job, if he's offered it, I don't know. I mean, his political career will be over. It's not that he wouldn't be a good transportation secretary. It's that he cannot sustain the pressure from his friends if Trump starts enforcing on immigration or against Planned Parenthood or against LGBT rights or civil rights issues. Like, that is just going to be an untenable situation for somebody like Harold Ford to be in the Trump administration. I don't see this at all.”
2016-11-28 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Hilary Rosen and Juleanna Glover, political consultants · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“You see, like, for example, Harold Ford has been mentioned as a transportation secretary. I do believe the transportation secretary is a key appointment because of regulation around self-driving cars and around drones and around all kinds of fast forward robotics that all have to do with transportation. A lot have to do. Would you see anybody in that area that's going to be not from the old world?”
2016-11-28 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Hilary Rosen and Juleanna Glover, political consultants · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Mr. 19th century steel companies, you know, I mean, we're not talking about the new economy at all when we're thinking about these things, when we're talking about investment bankers at Treasury who may have some experience in financing tech, but we're not exactly talking about the most forward-looking leaders here.”
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“When you look at the people that they've talked to, for instance, for Treasury Secretary or for a commerce department or for trade, and I think Juliana would agree that who they're talking to about these jobs as opposed to sort of the parade for the media. You know, Wilbur”
2016-11-28 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Hilary Rosen and Juleanna Glover, political consultants · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“That's absolutely true. I agree with that. But again, when we get back to who in the Trump administration is going to be influential, you do have Peter, I think pretty much Peter, who he has investments and he's obviously a Facebook director. He's got investments in Palantir and Airbnb and all kinds of sharing economy companies.”
2016-11-28 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Hilary Rosen and Juleanna Glover, political consultants · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“So yes, of course, this President-elect has been very articulate on the infrastructure question, and there has been a lot of speculation that this is going to be an enormous, enormous spending bill. And we are not sure how they're going to pay for it. Perhaps they'll pay for it with bringing back this $2 trillion worth of overseas profits that US companies around the world are holding. But the definition of infrastructure, I think, is crucial here as one thinks about technology. I think that there's going to be a real opportunity to argue that bandwidth, telecom, that is infrastructure as well. And that could also be really an opportunity to unleash tremendous growth there that will be truly impactful to the technology sector.”
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“If those companies end up with a lot of cash in their pocket and distribute it as opposed to investing in domestic manufacturing or in domestic jobs, you know, they could be on the hot seat again. Absolutely.”
2016-11-28 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Hilary Rosen and Juleanna Glover, political consultants · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Well, he's talked a lot about tax, for instance, and tax is a policy driver. Right. And so he's, for instance, criticized Apple for not manufacturing enough at home. He's criticized most of the tech companies for keeping profits overseas. Which he's promised to bring back. Which he's promised to allow them to bring back repatriation rate, and it looks like with the new Congress that that might actually happen.”
2016-11-28 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Hilary Rosen and Juleanna Glover, political consultants · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“So, what do you think the key issues are going to be going forward? Because I don't imagine this he will be pushing a lot of tech issues the way President Obama had. I don't think that necessarily, although there are certain things that he's promised, like jobs, which he's trying to take care of, infrastructure and other initiatives. But really, the future does rely on a lot of tech jobs, and that's where the jobs are in this economy and where the U.S. has excelled in. Julian, what do you think the key things he will be pushing in tech? I mean, I do think he will pull away from attacking maybe a company like Amazon quite as much. Someone will say, oh, you know, people do like that prime and he'll be like, oh yes, they do. So I shall not, you know, this is a popular company with consumers. That's exactly how a decision could get made. But I don't think he'll be attacking them quite as vehemently because it doesn't really work. Well, he's talked a lot about...”
2016-11-28 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Hilary Rosen and Juleanna Glover, political consultants · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“So those moderate Democrats or those progressive Democrats, depending on the issue, are still going to be very important for how things move forward. So there are going to be policy issues. They're not going to be able to just reverse something like net neutrality without democratic input. They're not going to be able to push through or work rules or encryption or other kinds of issues without Democrats in the Senate engaging on this. And so I do think that you'll see interesting coalitions being made, both industry interest and ideological interest, that may create some strange bed fellows on these issues.”
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“Know 25 years to get mergers approved. And so I do think that there's a bunch of signals that they have sent here about both what they're looking for and mergers, which is not much enforcement, and what they are looking for on sort of telecom and other sorts of tech stuff may be leveling out a playing field a little bit to not advantage tech companies quite as much. And then I think that we have this opposite issue, which I really believe that Democrats cannot be discounted in this conversation going forward. In particular, you're still going to need 60 votes in the Senate to get things done. They're going to eliminate the filibuster rules for court nominees for the Supreme Court, but they're not going to eliminate it for everything else.”
2016-11-28 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Hilary Rosen and Juleanna Glover, political consultants · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Well, our listeners know of him well. Yes, yes. And a famous libertarian, though, when it comes to government. And on the other hand, the FCC transition team that they do President-elect has put in place are filled with people who were sort of anti-net neutrality people. Yes, they are. Pro-merger people. And I trust side, you have folks from law firms that essentially have worked for the last”
2016-11-28 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Hilary Rosen and Juleanna Glover, political consultants · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Think this is an area where you're going to see a lot of new activity. The nominee for Attorney General Jeff Sessions has been well on record as being very On companies that have, for instance, refused to provide backdoors to government for access to data. He was very hard on Apple. In the Senate and said that these tech companies shouldn't get a pass law and order was more important, access for the FBI, etc. So I think we saw in Donald Trump less of a reverence for companies on this issue. And I think that going forward, there is going to be a renewed debate around”
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“Maybe doing a better job of encrypting for their international clients, not necessarily their domestic clients, but their international clients, then various U.S. companies. And again, this is a classic example of government just by its nature not being able to keep up with the speed and capability of innovation in the private sector.”
2016-11-28 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Hilary Rosen and Juleanna Glover, political consultants · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“The encryption issue does feel as though it's been resolved, but not because government did anything. It certainly had much more to do with just, again, the function of exponential innovation and encryption capabilities are so quickly advancing, and it is so crucially important for US corporations to be able to provide devices and communications with the highest level of encryption in the age of the hacker. The interesting rub is that when government has tried to step in and stop this, you run the risk that the economic repercussions in the United States from not being able to sell these devices internationally because Huawei or ZTE”
2016-11-28 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Hilary Rosen and Juleanna Glover, political consultants · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I don't know if you know the statistics right now. I think 40% of millennials are in these contract jobs. It's an enormous and growing number and at the same time shifting jobs four and five and six times. These have been the trends over the last couple of years. And as these companies, again, like Uber and Airbnb, and there's all kinds of things that are related. And Airbnb has a whole host of regulatory issues around housing too. But they're all part-time work in the part-time economy and how people think about work going forward”
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“I do think that the courts may speak in this area and that these companies are not totally off the hook. And then there's this other interesting dynamic that will take place with the progressive community who will not be silent in a whole host of areas. That same community that was active. Trying to use the arm of government, I think we'll try and use the arm of government for the loyal opposition, whether it's Senate Democrats like Elizabeth Warren that was pretty vocal in this area. So I don't think that these issues are over with Donald Trump as president, but I do think that some of the momentum has stopped and that people have to be smart about how they”
2016-11-28 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Hilary Rosen and Juleanna Glover, political consultants · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, I do feel as though going as we went into the election, many of the sharing economy companies were really preparing for this spectre or prospect of perhaps Bernie Sanders as chairman of health education labor and pensions committee. And that combined with what everyone expected was a Clinton administration where there would be labor union sentiments and concerns put foot and center. I think that after sort of these companies many of them are tech companies in California went so solidly for Clinton after they sort of comprehended the results of the election and so the next sequential logical thought was the independent contractor conversation just got much more open and fluid once it became clear that Donald Trump was going to be president and that the Republicans were going to hold the Senate.”
2016-11-28 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Hilary Rosen and Juleanna Glover, political consultants · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“On these companies, and I think what you'll see in what I've started to see is these companies start to find ways to develop their own rules around employee benefits and support and things like that without actually calling them employees. That marketplace may end up being where we go. But I think had Hillary Clinton been elected president, this is probably one area where there would have been more activity in terms of work rules and other things that would have had a significant impact on the market.”
2016-11-28 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Hilary Rosen and Juleanna Glover, political consultants · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Fundage Well, interestingly, we saw over the last two or three years a push to actually regulate more in this space. From increases in the minimum wage, which the court just struck down to the labor department that was starting to work on regulations on the sharing economy to labor unions that had started to get very aggressive in this last campaign about trying to organize and push policymakers to force sharing economy companies to treat more of their suppliers like employees. And I think that is going to be put on significant hold. But I think there is increasing pressure from kind of old school work advocates.”
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“So let's move on to the new speaking of that because Jobs was one of the biggest issues in this election. Again, we'll get to that part later. But part of it was how the changing economy is happening with jobbed classifications, with the sharing economy, with people that are on contract. And, you know, each candidate and different candidates said different things at different times. But it's clear that there's got to be a new reclassification of jobs and how employment happens. Hillary, why don't you talk a little bit about that, what's happened. Again, it's another punting in a lot of ways because nothing really has gotten, even as these companies like Uber and many, many others, of course, the San Francisco area, I always say is a, you know, it's assisted living for millennials. There's all this VC funded. Do you like that? There's all these VC funded things that are going to change job classifications, but no one's done it. And I know Gavin Newsome and others in California are looking at this. But how do you look at it on a nationwide basis? Because we are becoming a nation of contractors.”
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“No, I think some of these services are going to turbocharge themselves as people use these even more so and have multiple devices in the homes and things like that happening. And it'll be interesting to see who pays for them and who decides. That's exactly.”
2016-11-28 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Hilary Rosen and Juleanna Glover, political consultants · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Let me throw a wrinkle. Let me throw a wrinkle into that. As you all mentioned, I'm up here in New York. As an avid content consumer on my phone, I do think that we are going to be watching it's going to come to a head again. The ubiquity and capability of our bandwidth options versus what we are trying to watch and see and hear on our phones every single day. I mean, as you all know, when you travel around New York, in particular any of these hyper-concentrated environments, sometimes phones don't work so great. And we're going to see how that plays out, whether it's sort of a proliferation of other broadband providers or these private sector agreements between content providers and those offering bandwidth to see that we'll figure out on a sort of a bilateral basis what will be permitted in the future. I do think that this problem is not fixed.”
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