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“Definitely go into drama school. That was before. That was a huge turning point. I had a big, I just had also this attitude, you got to say yes to everything when you graduate. Just say yes. Go for everything. When my agent called me and said they're looking for someone to play Gaston and Beauty and the Beast in a musical, I was like, well, I'm a theater actor. I'm not a singer. She said, yeah, I just think you should go for it. And me saying yes to that audition and going getting singing lessons was a huge turning point. I mean, you know, now I've done a bunch of musicals and I've learned a lot over those years, but I did not think I could ever do that. So that was a big one. And doing Beauty and the Beast.”
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“Wary of the word career. I said it's not a right You can act 98% of actors are unemployed. It's a privilege when you get a job. And don't expect there'll always be one around the corner. Work your ass off. As though this is the last one and you have to be at your best to get there because that's kind of what it takes. So I'll admit I don't redo the contract anymore.”
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“I met a guy in my gym, and he's introduced me. He's the guy who parks the car around the corner of his place. He knows someone who's a friend of the casting agent and he's put in a word and I think I'm going to get that story comes out and this feeling of it's going to happen next week. I figured 31. Okay, 31 if it's not happening, be stoic. By the way, thanks for Ryan Holliday and the Stoicism, all that stuff. Be stoic. Be hopeful, but work your ass off, but no one's time to leave the party. So after five years at 31, I've done X-Men. It was all sort of happening for me. It didn't happen immediately in terms of what most people think of as success. But certainly after their first five years, I did actually mentally say to myself, all right, another five years, and we'll see how it goes. I don't like the word career. Particularly when I began, I say to actors, I said, I'd be...”
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“I've got to give it seven days a week. So I vowed to never wait for the phone to ring. I was going to write letters. I was going to start me and Simon Linden, my fellow mate I graduated with. We're going to start a theater company, which he did, by the way. I ended up getting a job straight out of drama school. Got lucky. But the Tara rock surfers, which is in Bondi in Australia, still going today after 25 years. My feeling was you have to drive. You have to work. You cannot be a victim. You cannot wait for the phone to ring. You have to go out and generate and get your brand out there and get going. So I figured five years was the time because I was 26. So five years, I'm like 31. We all hear stories of people staying too long at the party. I mean, if you go to LA, there's just so many people who stay a good 10 years too long at the acting party. And they're like.”
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“You have to give it seven days a week for five years. And after five years, you may be able to pull back a little bit. You may be able to be in a position where you've built the brand to a certain point. You may have to hire a manager. You may be able to hire staff to make things a little easier. But no one really goes into owning their own business thinking, oh, this is going to be the easy life. They do it because there's something they want to create. They don't want to be told what to do. And they go out and make it happen. And it dawned on me really only in the last semester of drama school that that's what I'm doing. I'm going out there. There's no one's employing me in their company to be an actor and then sending me out. I have to go and rehire every time I go for a job. And my brand is my name. So I have to build that up. And so I thought, okay, what have I learned from all these jobs?”
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“Yeah, totally. And yes, I've been punching the kidneys by 14 year olds. The whole thing. And yes, I told him to fuck off, all of that, you know, restaurants. But the thing I learned. From working in all those jobs, that if you start a business, it could be a pizzeria, it could be a bar, a restaurant, anything.”
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“Damn, your research is good. So I had worked, I don't know how many jobs. I graduated drama school of 26. So gas station attendant, I dressed up in a koala suit for the national parks and wildlife foundation.”
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“When faced with the all right, you've graduated, go be a journalist, I was like, I don't think I can cut it. I don't think I can do it. It's a really, really hard job. So it has come in handy.”
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“And that podcast he did with him was incredible. So, but anyway, it was, yeah, journalism has come in handy for me because I talk to a lot of journalists and I instinctively have an empathy for them. I think most people in my side of the game. Not fear them, don't like them. Like, distrust them, see them as a battle. And I don't feel that. I know the pressures they're under, how little they're getting paid. And that often they're being asked told to ask questions of me that they don't want to ask, but they're told if you don't come back to the newsroom without a quote about whether he's going to have another child or blah blah blah, you know, don't come back. So I can see that when I'm listening to them, I just have an empathy and a real appreciation for what they do.”
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“During this whole quarantine, I watched all Civil War. Watch the whole of Vietnam, and my son and I are about to get into baseball. I mean, how I could go 51 years without really seeing everything Ken Burns has done is a crime. But anyway, thanks for that.”
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“I don't know, man. I don't know. I don't know. I've got a lot more understanding of the world around me from your podcast than almost everything I read. So, no.”
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“The moment I walked in to that house and I met those people, I had this feeling all over my body that I'd made a mistake that I should have been here. Oh, I should have been doing this course. I knew then and it was deeply frustrating to me to be three weeks away from graduation thinking, oops, I think I turned right and I was meant to turn left. And so... Yes, officially. I graduated as a journalism major, but I never studied it. I went straight to go and study acting after that. So that was my sliding doors moment, I guess. But it has funnily enough. I do get a lot of journalists, and I don't consider you a journalist. You just claim yourself as a journalist, Tim.”
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“And only when I graduated, as I was graduating, I realized I've just spent 90% of my time doing that play and loving it. And I said, there's something wrong here. Like, I'm doing investigative journalism. Surely I should be really more passionate about that. Maybe something's off. We went actually toured the play to another university that was half theater and half communications. And I remember viscerally walking into the place where we were staying. We were staying at a student house. There were eight people in this house. The smell of weed was just suffocating as I walked in. But what I remember.”
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“Gradually, as I went along, my love, particularly for radio more than writing, blossomed. And so I did graduate. With a journalism major without degree Honestly, the biggest thing that happened for me at college was that I did a play in my last semester, which I didn't mean to do. I was doing, I had to fill a minor elective. And my friend said, you've got to join the theater class because it's the easiest thing possible you turn up for four hours a week. There's no exam. There's no play and you pass. So I was like, great, I'm done. So he decided for the first time in the course of his history to do a play, and I begged to get out of it. And by ballot, I got the lead role. There was no auditions.”
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“But if I think about it now, it was really something that's always prized. And so I came out of high school with pretty good scores and I was accepted into a degree, a dual degree in economics and law. Interesting. My father was a lawyer or going into law at that time. My father was an accountant his whole life for Pricewaterhouse. I was good at maths and I really was interested in people and good at speaking. So law and economics and I went off and had a gap year halfway through the gap year. I was like, I actually wonder what I think. I don't think that's for me. But I didn't really, I just knew I was very much a people person and interested in that. And this communications course was new at the time. And in Australia, and I went and studied there without really knowing anything about it, to be honest. But I knew media was a big part of it.”
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“My wife says I can be a little too verbose sometimes. She'll be like, all right, got it. Got the point. Wrap it up So if I look back, I was always in the debate team, love debate. My brother is probably the most successful barrister in Australia, certainly in his field of law, an incredible debater. So we used to get into it at home. And certainly with my oldest brother, who was a Rhodes scholar, you had to be on your game or he would literally eviscerate you in one line. So I probably learned PES there. Kind of reminds me of Jordan saying, I really learned how to play basketball from trying to be my brother growing up. And then I was in the debate teams and all of that. And we always had family dinner every night, Sunday lunch as a family. There was always conversation. So in a way, that was always encouraged. And in my family, I'm certainly, I don't stand out as.”
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“And I was really like, come on, please. Anyway, by the Sunday, it was clear to me I wanted, you know, obviously his lesson about education had sunk in. And so I went, no, I need to go and study because I want to feel that not only do I belong on a TV series set, but I can also audition for the Royal Shakespeare Company in England. And I didn't feel I had that before I studied. So I went off and studied. And when I told Dad the decision. He, I remember, he saw, he goes, Oh, thank goodness. I said, you knew? And he goes, of course I knew. I said, couldn't you have just saved me this grief the last few days and time? And he goes, man. He says, you're a man. You have to make those decisions on your own. Now, as a father, I have a 20-year-old. I don't know if I'd be able to hold my tongue. If I could see it so clearly, go right, don't go left.”
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“Even when I asked him for advice at one point, I had an opportunity to be in a TV show. I got cast in a TV show. And at the same time, I got spot at a very revered acting school in Australia, the West Australian Academy Performing Arts. And over the weekend, I had to choose, do I go on neighbors, which Kylie Mino, Guy Pierce, Margot Robbie, you know, all these people, that was the breeding ground. Or do I go and study for three years? And I asked my dad on the Friday, I said, dad, I don't know what to do and I need your help. And I was 22 at the time. And he said, I can't answer for you.”
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“Let's go there. Stickler on ethics. If you get an invitation to go. I don't know, go across the road to your mate's place for dinner, and then an hour later you get an invitation from the Queen of England. To go to the Buckingham Palace, you stick by your first one. It was just a stickler on ethics. You keep your word. Benefit you. You always keep your word. That was a big one. My dad was always big on ethics. And the other beautiful one, I remember when my His relationship didn't work out, and it was a big source of pain for him. He shared with me he was a real feeling of failure for him around his marriage. When things started to take off for me with X Men, he very rarely offered advice at all about parenting nothing.”
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“You've had dinner with us, and I can't tell you how many people invite us for dinner, and they'll be saying, listen, if Hugh's busy, that's fine. Because Div does a lot of upper room.”
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“You know, I couldn't go to someone else's house, and to this day, I always offer to clean up, even if I'm going to someone's dinner party, they always say, no, I always, if there's a bowl of chips on the table, I won't pick one up until I've offered them to everyone around me, even if it's not my house, all the stuff that I've learned. But my wife. Purely from instinct, from heart. So she cannot walk past someone homeless in the street. And I'll start quite often, but sometimes I'll go, oh, I'm just too busy. I can't deal with this right now. She will never do that. It's like an instinct, an impulse. That kind of, that's where I think manners or any way you're brought up somehow. Goes to another level of truly connecting. That's what I've learned from her. So there have been three big influences.”
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“I've learned a lot of that from Brene Brown They need to be seen for who they are and appreciated for what they give. And I've seen my mother in particular and my father do that. And that's something we were all taught. So it has become a natural thing. And it really pleases me. I see that in my kids too now, that they've picked up on that. And it's a little. Really doesn't take a lot, but it's that outward facing understanding where people are coming from, walking in their shoes to a certain degree. And no one, to be honest, there's no better example of that in my life than my wife, Deb. She's because you could argue that that's the way I was brought up. It's kind of like manners, you know. That's the way I was taught to be.”
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“Through your actions is so much more powerful. If someone eventually comes up to you and says, you know, there's something about you, man. I don't know what it is, but I'd love to know where I can get it, you know. Then there's an opening. But someone... People have noticed how you act is far stronger than what you say. And we all know that. I often speak a little more about my dad in interviews because my mom left when I was eight. Was brought up from NAND moment on primarily by my dad. And so I got a lot of those lessons as I was growing into a man with him being around. But my mom, I always remember her saying, she says it to this day, everyone needs to feel appreciated. It doesn't matter what they do, it doesn't matter who they are. That's a need in everybody. And I sort of have extrapolated that out to people need to be seen”
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“Your actions, that one. It was, I actually now remember it. We grew up very religious. My father was converted by Billy Graham. And my mother and father, I think, went to the Billy Graham Crusade, and my father was not religious at all and became a born-again Christian. My mother did not. That was one of the things actually, I think, that brought the end of their marriage. They sort of went down different paths. My dad was not a Bible basher. He rarely talked about it. And I remember saying, dad, because I was really about 13, 14, I was really church groups, fellowship groups. And I got one of those stickers that you put on the back of the car. And I said, dad, we should put that. We meant to do that. We meant to spread the word and do this. And when he said that to me, I was disappointed. I thought he was copying out, but only later did I realize that when he said people should know you're a crucial.”
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“Yeah. I'm glad you mentioned that story. That actually came to mind a couple of days ago. My dad, you know, when people talk about their, oh, my father always told me this, there weren't many times the dad would come up with a sentence. But there's a few I remember. You cannot overinvest in education. That's one he would say to us. And he says, if you're ever in doubt of what to do, And learn more is what he would say”
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“Some wisdom that will help me in life or the people I love. And I think the nervousness came from a bit of a habitual thought pattern with me is like, oh, well, you're not that good. Like, you don't know that much, man. You've done all right, but you're not the person that people are going to listen to on Tim Ferris. Those doubts that clearly have fueled me in my life. And I mention that A to compliment you on what you've created, but B, just to be completely open and honest that I have those doubts, you know, that I'm not good enough, which have driven me. Yeah, sorry if I'm going off piece here.”
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“Me too, man. I was hanging before we got on. I'm going to say it now. I was a little nervous. I was asking myself, I went for a bike ride this morning. I wasn't nervous like heart pounding, like I'm about to go on a talk show and I've got to perform. We're not that kind of nervous, but. I think because The only thing I can think of, the only bit of media really that I actually consume, that I'm now participating in. And I thought to myself, what why do I consume it? Reason that I listen in is that I have learned, apart from people in my inner circle, I've learned more from your show. The last two years than anywhere else, countless examples, Seth Goden, Esther Perel, Sam Harris, you know, I do his waking up app quite regularly. So there's so many things that I've learned. And I always feel like I'm going to get”
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“Read and listen to other stuff. I had a great acting teacher, Lyle Jones, who said to me, You can't call yourself a real actor unless you expose yourself to ballet and classical music and David Adam. Like, you should be so inquisitive and curious and find inspiration from surprising places. Could be a walk in the woods, but that stuff feeds you so that in the act of performing, which is very much giving out, you have enough energy there and stores, I suppose. That'd be the main things.”
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“I say om paramatna minama, which means I dedicate this show or whatever it is to the service of the absolute, that there is something beyond the show, some reason we're doing this. Same for your show. You know, there's got to be a reason beyond just what the immediate thing is there. And that just connects me to that. I'm pretty quiet during the day When I do a show. And the other thing I really tried to do is.”
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“I always take a minute before I go on stage, literally before, to pause and just connect with the senses. So even if I'm not. In the opening of a show, I will stand in the wings. I first of all like to just listen to that titter of excitement as people come in to the theater because I love the theatre myself and I remember that and it reminds me of how privileged I am and how much I owe every single audience member at every single show. They're not coming in to see my fourth show of the week. They're coming to see the show for the first and probably only time in their lives. And who knows what they've sacrificed to get there? So I really take that minute. And then I fall still Remind myself that This is all in service of something I say a little.”
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“Allow what has happened, the energy of what has happened, because there is a lot of energy. And I think I'm the only actor I know who I can be asleep within 45 minutes after getting off stage. There's something very calming. It's like you've had your greatest workout, you have a bath, that feeling after the bath, after a great workout. In the evening where you just can sit and be at peace with yourself, that I love. I limit the amount of coffee I have just because you're battling dehydration with stage work all the time. I always, I know what my routine is before I go on stage and I'm religious about it. And that's more about quieting my mind. I don't ever want my monkey mind saying, oh, you didn't do your warm-up today or you only half did it or this or that. You haven't stretched. You haven't done that. You didn't really eat very well today. You might, you know, the mind can easily pick up on that. The perfection side of me.”
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“Really important for me to wake up feeling in a good frame of mind rather than that feeling of catch-up, you know, that feeling if you wake up and you go, I just want to go back to bed, then that's a really difficult place to be in if you're going to perform that evening because then an anxiety comes in that you're going to be withdrawing on reserves that are not replenishable. I don't go out after any shot. And I would have loved you to come and see. I'm doing the music man come, but I never go out. And I make, that's a blanket rule. I don't go out with anybody. Partly because... The party I've just had on stage is better than anything I can imagine anywhere else. The other thing is I think it's really important for me to get quiet”
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“That's what I feel on stage. There's a kind of natural energy. And what I keep saying to my kids actually, don't settle. Find that thing that resonates with you in that way where you feel some kind of the pleasure of the universe, of consciousness. Like there's some joy where you feel you can do it longer. And in that way, it's not such a Herculean effort. Although I'm going to tell you in a second, I have a bunch of sort of rituals and things that I do to make sure that I can be my best. But there is a natural energy that I understand other people going, I don't know how you do that, but maybe that's in the same way I don't know how you train for ultramarathons, for example. So in terms of self-care. On Broadway, I have a bunch of rules. Or when I was doing my tour. I certainly don't drink alcohol before. And I really limit it after.”
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“Yeah, so this is a great scene. He's meant to be going off after the Olympics to do missionary work in China, handing out Bibles or something. And his sister's talking to him. She's like, you've got to throw away this silly running thing. We have really important work, God's work to do. Why are you doing this and spending time on this, basically kind of accusing him of not following God's will? And he just says he looks at her and he says, but I feel his pleasure when I run. And I've always somehow that line, it always makes me tear up just saying it.”
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“See, I find this hard to believe, man, because I sit here and I hear you and Peter talking about the 100 mile swim that you did or some of the crazy stuff. That sounds to me like, wow, I didn't even know the human body could do that, let alone the amount of training it goes for. That kind of pushing through, that energy that pushes through pain. Or if you see that documentary Kim Swims, when I watch her, I just go, wow, that's amazing to me because I know in my heart that I was born to be on the stage. It's taken me a long time to feel the same feeling on a sound stage for acting. But one of my favorite movies of all time and definitely my favorite quote from a movie of all time is from Chariot Sophia, which I loved as a kid. And Eric Liddell, who's the religious runner who decides”
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“And that has turned into a practice where it's every morning for sure. And then definitely when I'm working, if I'm on a movie set or I'm working in theater, there will always be a second one. But sometimes I'll let the afternoon one go. And when I say afternoon, I can't sit down. I get restless leg syndrome. So after about four or five o'clock, it's uncomfortable for me to sit for 20 minutes. I will do it around lunchtime or just after lunch.”
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“So I always do it twice a day, four years. So I started when I was 23, I'm 51 now. I did it very regularly, twice a day. And I bound. Three or four years ago, I kind of let go of the duty element there was and I can be guilty of this. This is good for you. Should be doing this. Don't fall off that wagon. It's a slippery slope. Once I let go of that, I just had a kind of experiment with myself. I was like, okay, why don't you meditate when you really want to meditate?”
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“And then in a period of time, that all settles, and you see crystal clear through the glass, through the water. That's what meditation does for me. It's got that feeling where things drop down. I have a feeling of coming home, the feeling of experiencing my true self and not just being caught up in the monkey mind or being reactive to life. And it gives me a finer energy. I don't always get out of meditation like ready to, you know, do a one-hour peloton class, but I always come out with a finer energy. It feels, my intention feels clearer, my listening is more purposeful and things feel easier and more connected.”
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“The mind is often called the monkey mind in Eastern philosophies. So a monkey is very energetic. And if not given something to do will be mischievous. So the mantra is like basically saying to the monkey mind, I need you to climb to the top of that telegraph pole. And when you get to the top, I need you to climb back down. And when you get to the bottom, I need you to climb back up. And when you get to the top, I need you to climb back down. So it's just giving this activity. So the mantra or this word that is silently repeated ends up. Fading away, and the best way I can describe it is Effect that it has on me. I mean, sometimes I fall asleep, by the way, which is totally fine. And clearly what my body needed. But when you first pour a glass of water, it's cloudy.”
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“I was introduced to meditation when I was at drama school and I and it was a form of transcendental meditation. There's lots of different types of meditation just very briefly. It involves the use of a mantra which you are given, which you repeatedly sound. Very basic concept is that the nature of our minds is to always be working. Always be thinking. And the trick to life is not letting that mind be your master, but to let it be a servant, then it's an incredible thing. Once it's running the show, it's very easy to get off track. So during this period of meditation, you are given a mantra, which was described to me as”
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“I'd stick with it. It works on you in the way nature does. It's patient. And it's in no rush. It's slow and it's steady and it's true.”
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“Yeah, it's Richard Bowser. I believe it won the Pulitzer. I think it did. It's a piece of fiction interweaving about eight storylines of humans. But what you realize, the misdirection of the book is, by the end, you realize the book is completely about trees. So we might relegate trees or nature to some 5 or 10% of our awareness. And this book, what it does is draws you in these incredible human stories and these Varying degrees of interaction with nature and various different forms. But by the end, you realize the book actually, the main character of the book, is trees, is nature. And it completely reverses the way you look at the world when you walk outside. Now, I promise you, after you read that book, Tim, you will sit in your backyard and you'll notice things you have never noticed before.”
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“But the David Foster Wallace is a 15-minute book, and the EB White book here is New York. The New York had a program post-World War II where they would invite the greatest writers in the world to come to New York and just pay them for three months just to write essays about New York. So that was his, and it's amazing to read a 1949 account of New York and how much of the spirit still resonates now. That's the little book that to anyone who lives in New York or likes New York I give. And in terms of fiction, and this completely breaks that rule, Tim, because this is a long book. But I was gifted at actually by Gary Hart, Senator Gary Hart, who I played in a movie, the overstory by Richard Powers. I'm not sure if you read that, but that's the most transformative bit of fiction I have read in a long time.”
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“They're incredible. And so he came over to my place one day and he gave me two books that I now gift very regularly. One is E.B. White's Here is New York. And the other one is David Foster Wallace's speech, This Is Water, his commencement speech. I've heard you talk about the David Foster Wallace one. So I know you know that. And he said, I said, oh, I haven't read either of these. And he said, man, I learned a long time ago. It's really nice to give books, but it can be a burden to give a big book because people feel like, oh, I'm going to see. Going to see him in a month. Oh, I'm having dinner with him next week, and”
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“I learned this from a grave mate of mine, Billy Shaw, who's often known as St. Billy, runs no kid hungry, share our strength, you know that organization?”
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“And we might just stop and say, hey, I'm worried about this, could be somebody about the kids or stuff or stuff's on my mind. And then we'll just end up talking about that, you know. But often just the reading itself sparks things in us, gives us ideas, things to talk about come together with. But we read the same book out aloud to each other.”
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“Loud to each other. We read out loud to each other. So we split it up, we do half half, and we read out loud to each other. And it's interesting. If you've got something on your mind, Often it stirs during the night, and it could be, I'm not just talking negative stuff, it could be ideas. I find the evening when your subconscious is probably brewing at its highest level, lots of ideas or anxieties come to the surface. So I find the first thing in the morning. We'll be five minutes into reading right now. We're reading David Brooks, The Second Mountain book.”
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“And we met Esther, and I signed up for Seth Coden's marketing kind of workshop thing that unfortunately got cancelled. Anyway, so we wake up, every time I'm going to get up, I go down, I make a cup of coffee for me, a cup of tea for Deb. We come back up. I have a cold shower first. Another thing I learned from you from your four-hour body book when I was getting ready for Wolverine, the old coal bar. So I have a cold shower every morning. And then we go back and we read. And we read for at least 30 minutes. And then we meditate together. And that way... It's become our favorite time of the day as a couple, and we know that no matter what happens in the day, which invariably gets away from you, you've had that quality time together. And so that's just been a godsend. It's been an absolute blessing.”
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“I read a book, the kind of book that you pick up when you go on vacation. I've got nothing to do book. And he's been doing that for years. And he said, the reason I do it first thing in the morning is the day just gets away from you. And you think, oh, I'll read later in the evening, but you don't. He says on weekends he spends an hour. So for Christmas this year. Gave Deb a couple of books which I got off your podcast from Seth, the Esther Perell Seth Godin one about their five books. Oh, yeah.”
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“Every day. I nicked the idea from Patrick Stewart. I was on set with Patrick Stewart, for those who don't know him, his great actor who played Professor X in the X-Men Series Star Trek lots of stuff. And he said to me that when he was about 60, he realized that he was never going to read all the books that he wanted to read in his life. He did the calculation. And so he decided that no matter what time his call was let's say he's picked up at five, whatever time he would have woken up, he wakes up 30 minutes earlier, gets a cup of tea, and goes back to bed and he goes, and he reads. And he said, I don't read the paper because it makes me angry. I don't read my emails because it usually makes me anxious, gets my mind going. He said, what's the other thing he doesn't read? He doesn't do emails. Oh, scripts. He won't work. He said, that makes him anxious. He said,”
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