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Husam Zomlot

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“Two years ago it was much more difficult for the average person to understand, but now every bread, every American, every European, every international understands the very raw, raw idea of what is this and where we need to go. So yes, of course, I'm hopeful. That's why I would like to stay outside in the meantime to utilize this moment.”
2024-11-29 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Husam Zomlot One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I don't dream actually. I act. This is a deep, deep belief in my heart that this is going to happen and it's going to happen in my lifetime. Up until a few years ago, I thought maybe in my children's lifetime, but now, particularly in the last few years, remember the Sheikh Jarrah events three years ago. Since then, I started believing seriously that no, no, it's going to be in my lifetime. And seeing the energy of the international public opinion, seeing your people here, the British people, and I mean, I wake up every single morning, all the way to the evening, and Palestine here is the, what's the word? I panic, literally, and my wife keep asking me every morning, why do you feel restless? I say, not because of the challenges, because of the opportunities. I don't know where to go and who to tap to and who to address. So things are changing.”
2024-11-29 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Husam Zomlot One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“This is the honor of my life to be the voice of my twenty mothers, of the legacy of my grandfather, in the country that many Palestinians see was the beginning of all of our agony and could be the end of our agony.”
2024-11-29 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Husam Zomlot One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“It's a signal that number one it's the PLO that is in charge responsible. In Gaza, the West Bank including East Jerusalem, the unity of our territory and our people. And there is one address. There is no other address. And all these dubious ideas of forces, external, of mercenaries are not going to fly and they will not be accepted. This is the only option. Second, we have our democratic process. So that presidential degree is very important. Only the Palestinian people have the legitimacy to elect, I don't signal or point to a person to be my deputy. Let the people decide. So that's why I started by telling you, let the people decide.”
2024-11-29 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Husam Zomlot One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“But we still convened elections when Hamas did win in 2006. And I'll tell you what's the real reason, two reasons. Israel wants to turn our election and democratic process into a process of Israeli colonization. They want to pocket Jerusalem, prevent our people from voting in there, and we will never allow for 350,000 of the people of our capital, occupied capital, to be excluded from the democratic process. And the second reason is the international community, including the UK, that after 2006 elections, when Hamas won, they say, oops, we didn't expect this result. We will lay siege on the government. So the issue is not who is leading the Palestinian people. The issue is not who is leading the Palestinian people”
2024-11-29 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Husam Zomlot One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Palestinian Authority, yes, so as of representation legitimacy, the PA doesn't exist outside. Our office here in London is the PLO mission. In Washington, it was the PLO in the UN, it's the PLO. That's the government. Now, President Abbas was elected by his people. Okay, we should have convened elections every five years. There are many reasons if you have six hours to outline for you why we couldn't under so many internal, external constraints. He's also the head of the PLO via the selection of Fateh that he leads. And we, I am a member of the Fatah Council, we renew our confidence in him regularly in our meetings. So even if elections are not led, the issue is...”
2024-11-29 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Husam Zomlot One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Okay, so I thought you were going to forget that question, but I'm kidding. I'm coming to it. Nick. Number one, the government of the state of Palestine is the PLO. It's not the PA. Let's be clear. The entity that represents every Palestinian inside and outside is the PLO. The PLO created the PA, entrusted the PA to do certain responsibilities under our Oslo committee.”
2024-11-29 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Husam Zomlot One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Or you as an embassy, that conversation later, but even the British government use Ambassador to designate my title. Nonetheless, The issue here is this. It's not why should the UK recognize, it's why the UK hasn't recognized until this moment. After all these years, an opportunity. But I asked you why.”
2024-11-29 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Husam Zomlot One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“First of all, I am an ambassador appointed by my people via their president, and I represent the state of Palestine. The state of Palestine is recognized by the vast majority of the world, except few including the UK. We are working on, I don't use the word ambassador, not out of disrespect to you, but in recognition.”
2024-11-29 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Husam Zomlot One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“When it comes to the youth are always right, but let's come to Israel or anti-Semitism. What is anti Semitic about that? Half of those who did the incumbent, the leader of the incumbents were Jewish students for your information”
2024-11-29 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Husam Zomlot One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“the incumbents in Oxford and that the University of London, we should, the British people and the British authorities should have embraced them because the youth are always right since the anti-Vietnam war all the way to today. But when it comes to Israel.”
2024-11-29 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Husam Zomlot One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“You're being marginalized. Huge difference, Nick. Do you know how the Nelson Mandela got freed in South Africa is no longer under apartheid? It was a key role played by the UK, but not the government, not the Tacha government. It was your parents, maybe yourself, even as a young child took part in that. But in the 80s, the epicenter of the anti-apartheid movement was Trafaga Square and London here. And look what that did. Look what that did. They sucked oxygen out of the apartheid regime. They isolated the apartheid regime and the apartheid regime collapsed. And since then, we have celebrated the freedom of the South Africans. The same thing is happening for Palestine. No one should underestimate the power of the people, the power of the youth, the power of the civil society. And please, when it comes to Palestine, help them, support them, because there is a lot, a lot of targeting, defaming the best in us when these students...”
2024-11-29 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Husam Zomlot One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“They shouldn't. If there are any threat directly to the Jewish community here, it must be dealt with with the law enforcement authorities. But I participate in most of these marches. I am going to be there this Saturday. And I always see such a festive mood of societies from all backgrounds. You cannot imagine how diversity is and the peacefulness and the love. Listen, it's been 14 months. And have you heard of one violent incident? No, you wouldn't. It's all claims and propaganda.”
2024-11-29 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Husam Zomlot One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“They were losing. No, no, but the link with Palestine is not just Hezbollah, and the link with Palestine is way deeper, wider in the region. The people of the region, and even wider than the region Palestine over the years has become not an Arab issue only or a Muslim issue only. It's a human issue. You see it here. You see it all over the UK. By the way, London has become the epicenter of international support and solidarity with the Palestinian people, and we take that deep, deep to heart. Is it always helpful?”
2024-11-29 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Husam Zomlot One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, even for the strong men, Nick, the last 14 months of atrocities, of unprecedented wound, any nation could go through, which is mass murder, mass destruction. There were some positive outcomes, including the one fact among these strongmen that Netanyahu's business of convincing everybody that they could bypass the Palestinian issue is a fallacy. I think that has been established, that the Palestine issue is the core of all issues in the region, and it spells over globally. You've seen the streets of London, one million in one go. And therefore, the realization that this needs to be resolved, you cannot just brush it underneath the carpet.”
2024-11-29 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Husam Zomlot One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Comes the question why did they do the 180 degrees? It's the people he surrounded himself with. So let's hope this time he's not going to surround himself with people who will give him wrong advice.”
2024-11-29 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Husam Zomlot One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Of course. And I was there to be the engaging sort of the address between the two people, not just me, not just me. They closed also their consulate general. So not just the Palestine mission. This is when they went on and recognized Jerusalem as the capital of Israel.”
2024-11-29 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Husam Zomlot One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Meeting, we also arranged in Bethlehem soon after, and then in New York a few months later, everything was almost perfect until that U-turn. Literally a U-turn, 180 degrees.”
2024-11-29 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Husam Zomlot One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, there is a lot of focus on Trump as a person, and many are just focusing on his ego, his personality, all that, and that some say that he likes to make deals. And he said that in a book of his own. And we went in the first time. I was sent an ambassador to Washington to utilize that possible opportunity. But there is also not only Trump, there is Trumpism, there is the movement beneath him, there is the people that he surrounds himself with. And while I can assure you that I arranged the first summit between President Abbas and President Trump in the White House in May early, the 2nd of May 2017, and I assure you the chemistry was as high as you can imagine. The relationship between the two leaders, the two men, was exemplary. The content of the conversation was extremely promising. All the way to the second...”
2024-11-29 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Husam Zomlot One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Post Gaza war peace process. Yes, yes, yes. But first they want to make sure that they do not in any way or shape contravene with the International Court of Justice resolution. That's not the ICC, whereby any third party must cease immediately to provide any legal, political or material support to Israel's unlawful presence in the occupied territories and the atrocities in Gaza. That includes draft flights. It has to cease so the UK can claim a very credible and the issue of F-35s because rightly they stop exporting all weapons that could be used in Gaza. Then we craft a role for the UK that would actually lead the way.”
2024-11-29 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Husam Zomlot One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“So it does number one that the history let's not go back number two Britain has a current responsibility This is the moment for Kistama, the Prime Minister and for the UK to really take its leading position in the international system. The UK is also a pinholder of international diplomacy very well respected you have one of the best civil servants there is in the world and you have a permanent seat in the Security Council don't underestimate the power you have and with the situation in the US and please don't ask me that much on the US with the situation in other major European countries such as Germany and even France the UK stands out as a key player given its relationship to the Arab world to Israel to the US to Europe and therefore this is the moment for the UK”
2024-11-29 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Husam Zomlot One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“That declaration, which was followed by a British colonial mandate of Palestine, has literally not contributed, has led to Arn Aqba. I am the product I am personally, physically the product of the British at the time colonial arrogance and ignorance.”
2024-11-29 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Husam Zomlot One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Of course. Britain started this whole thing. In 67 words of the Balfour Declaration, your foreign secretary in 1917, we were cancelled as a nation completely and our land was promised to another without consulting us and we were turned. And remember, Nick, remember, Palestine and the Palestinians are a cradle of civilization, the birthplace of Christianity, a very important place for all religions. There are Abrahamic religions. But we're talking about the future. No, no, no, no.”
2024-11-29 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Husam Zomlot One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“It's very significant. He would be prepared to. First, we have a Labor government that would set such values and a base that we know have a certain way of looking at the international arena, believing in internationalism and universal values. Second, we have a human rights lawyer sitting at the helm of the government, Sergei Stommer, the foreign secretary, is a lawyer himself. And we have an attorney general who's very well respected domestically and internationally, Richard Hermer. And therefore, these are experts in law committed to international legality. And that's why we want their decision-making process to be based on legal assessments, not on political calculations.”
2024-11-29 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Husam Zomlot One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“They did show the arrest war People wouldn't they? You need to hang on snack to get them arrested. No, no, no. Pull the temperature down. I'm sorry. How do you do a deal with these guys? Before we move. What is it with Israel and the West Nick? Why, when it comes to the West, everything we built together vanishes, disappears. If the arrest warrant were against, as they did this morning, the war criminals in Far East Asia, everybody complies. Why is it with Israel we have to always, the West tries to dodge the issue. Oh, but this is an exception. There was an arrest warrant. An arrest warrant.”
2024-11-29 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Husam Zomlot One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“There is no equivalence because Motors represents a colonial occupation, a besiegment, an apartheid, and Smotrish is a state actor, even much worse than Hamas because states have to be held under certain responsibility. You want to draw any equivalence, moral equivalence between a state actor and a non-state actor? Hell, why did you establish international system if you think those are morally equivalent? And you want to draw moral equivalence between the occupied and the occupier, the colonies and the colonizer, the besieged and the besieger, this business has to end. You cannot draw any equivalent. I'm not drawing.”
2024-11-29 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Husam Zomlot One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, then you tell me, then we have to take all the Kahanists out of the Israeli society. And I want to see senior ministers in the cabinet now being evicted somewhere or being prosecuted somewhere. You think the ideas of somebody like Smotrich is an idea acceptable to you?”
2024-11-29 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Husam Zomlot One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“No, no, let me confirm. Let me just put this point after the erasure of the Palestinian people. Everywhere. Everywhere. By deeds, not words.”
2024-11-29 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Husam Zomlot One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“That's yes, that's not just my fear. They are doing it. Many people are saying, oh, look at Israel, they don't have a plan. They have no goals. They have failed to achieve any of their goals, including the hostages. They didn't get it. Anyway, I disagree. Israel has a plan. And their hostages is not part of the plan. The plan is to depopulate Gaza. And by the way, they will turn to the West Bank very soon. And you've heard Smotrich, the finance minister, only last week saying that 2025, they will annex the West Bank. Now, why the plan is clear? Look, they have depopulated the north of Gaza. The north of Gaza is one third of the area of Gaza. The land area, and has one half of the population living in the north. Completely depopulated. They are going home after home. If they find men, they kill them and then they leave the women and children to go into death marches towards the south.”
2024-11-29 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Husam Zomlot One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“What is it? There's more than one view in the world. What is it? They have killed tens of thousands, mostly women and civilians. They have made their intent clear. They have used starvation and disease. If this is not genocide, what is a genocide?”
2024-11-29 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Husam Zomlot One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“That's none of the British government business or your business of the ICJ. That's why we have created the highest court on the globe. But they have not found that was genocide.”
2024-11-29 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Husam Zomlot One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“But still, this is the first time that a genocide is being live-streamed in real time by the people who are being genocided, leaving the responsibility not on international media or on international institutions, but leaving responsibility on children to convey their stories and to document their own executions. And therefore, of course, but we don't see this.”
2024-11-29 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Husam Zomlot One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I empathize with every family, of course. And I empathize, but I also empathize with your children. You have three as well. I have three. By the way, you have two boys and one girl. I have two boys and one girl. Nick. And what I want for my two boys and one girl is exactly what you want. And what any other father wants. Of course, we want the same. But stop enough of this dehumanization. If you ask the Israeli ambassador here, you will feel a sense of racism devaluing Palestinian lives. It dents me to see Palestinian children in Gaza having to convene their own press conferences because you, Nick, and the international media have been blocked from covering Gaza and you did nothing about it, by the way.”
2024-11-29 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Husam Zomlot One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“at the hands of successive Israeli government. That's the key argument. Do not be little, do not conflate, do not distract, do not defame the Palestinian struggle.”
2024-11-29 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Husam Zomlot One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yes, it is to deal with. I mean, it is because many countries. Well, there is just war and there is justice in war. The war against the resistance against a military colonial apartheid occupation is a just war. Ask the French when Nazi Germany were there, unless you don't think the German did have a right to defend themselves or the Algerians against the French themselves before that or after that actually. So the concept of a just war is there. The issue here is justice in war, which means the rules that we should adhere to. And of course, we are absolutely and adamantly clear that targeting civilians is unacceptable, rejected nationally, faithwise and what have you. But we cannot just play the Israeli propaganda side that history began on the 7th of October. I'm sorry. History began with my grandfather. The injustice has been enduring and Nakba is being repeated.”
2024-11-29 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Husam Zomlot One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“our commitment to international legality is very clear and I'm sure you've been following not only mine but the institution I represent the people I represent the PLO and Hamas is not part of the PLO as you know very well but Hamas is part of the Palestinian people part of the Palestinian national and social fabric we did not import them and therefore in the end Hamas is an internal issue that can only be dealt with via the Palestinian people and via a democratic process let the Palestinian people decide our positions are very clear and very well known however for 30 years our strategy has been negotiation as you know trying to achieve our rights via diplomacy and I know you know who blocked us for all these years Netanyahu and Co.”
2024-11-29 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Husam Zomlot One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, the armed struggle that was picked by Assar Fat first and by the national movement, by the PLO, or negotiation as a strategy, or popular resistance intifada as a strategy is a strategy, but what unites us as the Palestinians is the goal. And the goal is very clear. Our goal is the love of our country and our people. That's the goal. We are not motivated by the hate of, we are motivated by the love of. And I think I speak on behalf of most Palestinians, if not all. The only difference is a strategy. Every Palestinian agrees on the goal.”
2024-11-29 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Husam Zomlot One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“But no hatred doesn't mean no resentment and no resistance. It's just how do you translate your rejection of the reality into action? Because hatred can produce all sorts of things that I don't think would be productive or impactful in our situation. It's the love for our country that propels our resistance. It's the attachment to our heritage and roots. It's the love to our people, to our parents, to our grandparents, to the stories. It's the love to our community. Because in that refugee camp, every single neighborhood was named after the original village that came from. So it's your belonging and it's your loyalty to these people that propels you. That's one of it.”
2024-11-29 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Husam Zomlot One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“They besieged the home, but they were themselves besieged. The first line was my 20 mothers. The second line was elderly men, and the third line was the rest of the camp. And there was such a moment, anyway, they took me. And there was a moment of arrest and a moment of torture. But that moment has brought to me this occupation on Israeli soldiers and the whole story and my society that came in defense as a child.”
2024-11-29 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Husam Zomlot One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“that vulgar, unwelcomed, odd thing, I saw their action for the first time right directly they started shooting at the demo. Six were killed instantly. I saw some of them. Some of them are children. And that was the first shock. And then I ran. I ran for my life. I am a bit tall, taller than my average. So they ran after me, these old things called Israeli army and the Israeli occupation. They ran after me. And then I was a master of the refugee camp because I was, I grew up there. From an alleyway to Anale, from a home to home, and then I went into one of these homes, my little brain thought that I lost them. I didn't. They knew where I was. They besieged that home. I literally had my stories. I had my head underneath a table and my entire body was out thinking that they would not see me. Anyway, cool.”
2024-11-29 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Husam Zomlot One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Rejection and resentment. I'll tell you with all honesty, the generation that has gone through the NACBA has made sure that we do not have rage and hatred. But we had resentment. So I grew up, of course, until I got to 13 years old, 12 years old, and I started becoming much more, in a way, aware of the reality, of the oppression, of the collective oppression. Now, by the first intifada, the first real experience came to me when my school went out in protest. It was popular. Intifada is popular, non-violent, non-armed resistance by people, by ordinary people, students, women, what have you. So I went out with the school in a march. It was a peaceful march. Now, the Israeli army that I was watching as a small little child all the way.”
2024-11-29 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Husam Zomlot One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“So, the whole neighborhood would go and watch TV in that home, and I would have to wake up everybody about phone calls coming from everywhere. That communal life is very important.”
2024-11-29 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Husam Zomlot One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“No, I think what the society, you know, it's a very interesting experience, the refugee camp, really. It's a very interesting experience because you grew up literally in a communal situation whereby, and I once say then it became quoted everywhere, as if one mother is not enough, I had 20 mothers. Because the collective experience of deprivation and injustice and of atrocities being committed against the nation would translate into solidarity, common solidarity with love. So, you know, the communal life means that one home has a TV, one home has a phone, a landline. Our home used to have the landline. Our neighbor is the TV.”
2024-11-29 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Husam Zomlot One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“No, no, no, the Israeli army. It was always there. But the UN, for me, was really the savior, the blue flag represented for me the good. The Israeli army as a child seven years, six years represented for me something that was odd, that was unwelcomed.”
2024-11-29 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Husam Zomlot One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Why then? Because they had no choice. Up until then, I was raised by a family that really was absolutely, adamantly wanting to invest in us in terms of education. And I was also educated by the United Nations, by UNRWA, you know, refugee status. And then up until then, I would see the blue flag, the UN flag, all over us outside our home on our school, in the clinic. So up until then, I was confused. I thought the UN flag was my flag, actually. A child. There was no realism. But I would always see as a child these soldiers with green costumes, with big rifles, with tanks, and with armored vehicles standing on every corner of our refugee camp. And I always knew as a child that there is something wrong with these people. They don't interact with us. They look vulgar. What is the story? Of course.”
2024-11-29 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Husam Zomlot One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, you push back, that's anti-fada. Leave me alone. I need my rights and I will seek my rights. So the Intifada happened. That was when I realized up until then, they gave us only love our society and our parent. Only pure love as children of the Nakbah because they wanted to compensate us for the lack of any material base because they didn't have any, they didn't give us land or homes or schools or whatever. They just gave us a refugee camp and a tent. They compensated that with so much love and protection. So there was not much political conversations then until the 1987 and then politics came all over us. Why then?”
2024-11-29 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Husam Zomlot One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Not the rage, not the anger, not the hatred. They wanted to instill in us the love. But since then, I was literally shocked. I was embezzled. I was driving back while I was driving up. I was looking in the windows. While I was driving back, I remember looking so angry at my grandfather and having a sort of exchange with him. Why did you leave? I was asking him. Why did you leave your home? He said, okay, why did you leave your home? Why aren't you going back? You don't want to go back? Leave me here. I'm going to stay. A child, you know. I love this place. It's open. It's huge. You have a farm. Why are we in a refugee camp with all these tents? So that conversation kept going. And he resisted to, you know, answer me with full sort of. So of course these exchanges shapes you.”
2024-11-29 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Husam Zomlot One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Able to answer me at that time because he wanted to shield me from the horror he's gone through. He didn't tell you about the”
2024-11-29 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Husam Zomlot One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yes, I was said what? Six, seven years. My grandfather took me. My father. Was driving my grandfather, and then he said, come on board. I am the eldest of the I went, we drove for 40 minutes. I was enjoying the ride. They were extra nice. To me, I was a bit suspicious. What is this all about? Until we arrive to this gorgeous landscape of greenery and hills and stones scattered all over and trees. And my grandfather told me this is your home. This is my home. This is where I was born. This is where your father was born. This is Simpson. Next to us is Herbia, next to all the villages. He mentioned all the way to Yibna. Anyway, he gave me the geographic sort of landscape. And then I said, okay, where is exactly your home? He was looking, looking until he identified by a fig tree because he planted that fig tree. And then I said, okay, my grandfather, why aren't we living here? It took us 40 minutes to drive from the refugee camps to his home. And my father was on.”
2024-11-29 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Husam Zomlot One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“As possible to protect his children and his unborn grandchildren, that's myself and my siblings, but he did not want to leave his homeland. That's why I was born Rafah.”
2024-11-29 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Husam Zomlot One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source