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Iain Anderson

lines on the record: 34
first: 2023-02-10
most recent: 2023-02-10
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“Not the Cocker Boys, but they are two Cocker Spaniels, and my other half is from South Yorkshire. So Joe and John Johnson.”
2023-02-10 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Iain Anderson One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Respect is everything that I'm about. Respect is, I hope, how people work with me, how I try and work with them. It's a good word, I think it's a good comment. That is my approach.”
2023-02-10 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Iain Anderson One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“That's not my language. I agree with Nicola Sturgeon on what she's trying to achieve in terms of creating a more inclusive approach for LGBTQ plus people. But I disagree with Nicholas Surgeon on some of the language she might use and personal view, obviously again. The one thing that's not changed in all this is I'm a very committed unionist.”
2023-02-10 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Iain Anderson One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“So, I've never said that. That's not my approach. I'm interested in people that, and I'm interested in that conversation with people that want to make life better for the LGBTQ plus community.”
2023-02-10 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Iain Anderson One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Because I care about it, Nick. I care about it. And lots of things kind of come together in this place. We've had a, in some places today, quite a hard conversation. But that does not mean it's not worth doing. My dream is to get to a place where we can continue to advance LGBTQ plus rights, see the UK go back up to the top of the tree again, and then all groups in society, all parts of this conversation can feel that they want everybody to flourish once again.”
2023-02-10 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Iain Anderson One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, in June last year, I just happened to be in Washington. Not that we'd booked it about a year in advance, round about the time of the 50th anniversary of Watergate. And I went along to the Washington Post and I, yeah, I did get a Twitter pic of both Bob Woodward and Carl Bernstein and it's proudly my pinned tweet.”
2023-02-10 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Iain Anderson One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I've thought about politics all my life when I was 16. I saw the movie All the President's Men and that was before I even got to university. I just thought, right, I want to be around politics in some way. I was a journalist for a while. I was a political activist. I worked for some politicians. People who love politics, who don't just casually look at it as you approach general election, it's you're in your DNA. I'm not a tribal person, but I've been part of a tribe. So it's hard”
2023-02-10 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Iain Anderson One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“It's been very hard. It's been a process. I spoke to a Recent cabinet minister just a few days ago about what was in my mind. And what I was struck by, I had expected them. Try and convince me not to cross the bridge. They didn't You know, there have come moments in your life coming out, setting up a business, but there come moments in your life where you just have to stand back and look at what you can see. The Conservative Party, I see now, is not the one that I knew.”
2023-02-10 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Iain Anderson One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“It's a huge decision. It's a decision I've kind of agonized about for a long time, but I just think, to quote my old mentor, The Tories are tired and we need a change.”
2023-02-10 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Iain Anderson One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Did I won the competition though? What you beat it? I won the competition. The local newspaper competition, the Preston Journal competition, might not have taken place the year before, but he's gone on to great things, yes.”
2023-02-10 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Iain Anderson One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I think that's a fair comment, and as I say, that's a personal comment. I don't say that wearing my day job or shall we say, my day job hat. That's an Ian comment. When I work with Ken Clark and Ken Clark lost the Conservative leadership to Ian Duncan Smith, I'm about 60-40. And I thought, hmm, what should I do? And I spoke to Ken and he said, fight, fight and fight again as somebody else once said, stay in and stick in. I think I probably have come to the end of the road now. And I mean, recently I met Keir Slommer. And I think what the country needs right now, again, personal view, is to restore confidence in the institutions of Britain to get things in public services working again. And yes, to become a leader once again on LGBTQ plus rights.”
2023-02-10 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Iain Anderson One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“In some organizations, potentially that's what they might want to do in terms of the culture that they're trying to create and in terms of what has actually worked in other organizations. These are suggestions. This is about creating a place, creating a culture where people really can be themselves. That's what I'm after.”
2023-02-10 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Iain Anderson One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“So, no, I mean, this again gets mischaracterized. What Stonewall looks to do is to provide organizations with good practice to create an inclusive place to work. It's not the law, Nick. But is it good practice to”
2023-02-10 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Iain Anderson One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“So, the way in which this debate goes, the way in which this conversation goes is people are saying that what is a biological woman? I think we know what a biological woman is, and Stonewall is not saying anything to change that. What it is saying is that we believe that a trans woman is a woman. What we're not saying is not in the case.”
2023-02-10 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Iain Anderson One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“We look at the size of the prison population. The prison population is about 90,000 at the minute. We're talking about less than 200 people that are trans people that are in jail right now. This person is a rapist and the full force of the law should apply to them. And that's what's happening.”
2023-02-10 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Iain Anderson One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, that person committed an offence whilst a man has transitioned to being a woman and the Scottish prison service, as I believe would happen in England and Wales as well, has undertaken a risk assessment pretty quickly and put said individual into a man's prison.”
2023-02-10 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Iain Anderson One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, I disagree with that. I profoundly disagree with that for several reasons. We've got legislation in this country by which I mean all the UK. We've clearly been debating the difference between Scotland and the rest of the UK. We've got equalities legislation that specifically enshrines women's rights and protections and safe spaces in that legislation. I mean, that's come up in the latest, if I can use a good old Scottish word stushy about this whole kind of conversation. So we got to a place over a decade ago now where rights for those with what are called protected characteristics and all LGBTQ plus people I think fall into that space have protection. I can't just understand why we've kind of gone backwards. In some of this conversation over the last 12, 13 years.”
2023-02-10 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Iain Anderson One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And I isn't the same. And I think when you look at the, I mean, I think there is genuinely an LGBT community. I think when you look at the levels of support across the peace for LGBTQ people, it's very, very evident to me, yes, I've made a choice, but I think it's the right choice.”
2023-02-10 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Iain Anderson One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“So there's a lot out there about that. I just see a real echo. Nobody really I felt stood up or stood with me in the 1980s. And I think we're better when we stand together. I really do.”
2023-02-10 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Iain Anderson One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And that was exactly the right thing to do. I just fear right now that the Conservative Party, and this is a personal view, to be absolutely clear, this is a personal view, having been a Conservative for most of my life, that the Conservatives have gone backwards. I mean, look, it's Theresa May that promised that there'd be an all-inclusive ban on conversion therapy. She promised that. Five years ago now, Nick. So, how long do LGBTQ plus people in this country have to wait to see a conversion therapy ban actually take place?”
2023-02-10 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Iain Anderson One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“So, I mean, switching gear into that, I mean, I called my business Cicero. What does Cicero do? He was about a conversation, yes. He was about being a stout defender of things he believed in. He was about a two-way dialogue. So yes, look, you know, for me, you build the biggest coalition for your thinking and your ideas as you possibly can. And again, now in the Stonewall Chair, that's what I want to try and do.”
2023-02-10 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Iain Anderson One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I think there's definitely people that want to fight a culture war and are very well funded to be able to do so. Because, you know, to go with the idea that when they've come from trans people, who are they going to come for next? I think there are people involved in this conversation that don't care about trans rights, don't care about women's rights, actually just want to push back human rights.”
2023-02-10 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Iain Anderson One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I see, as I say, sadly, some of the words that are being used about trans people right now create an echo for the kind of things I heard 20, 30 years ago.”
2023-02-10 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Iain Anderson One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I don't know if they were surprised. Do you know they made no judgment call? They just said, are you happy? And we love you. And another reason why I'm sat in front of you today is because of that support and that love.”
2023-02-10 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Iain Anderson One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, the conversation I had with both my mum and my dad in my early 30s was probably one of the most profound conversations of my entire life. I went for a walk with my dad because that's the way we usually did stuff. I sat down and had a snack with my mum. They were instantly, I don't know what I was worrying about really. They were instantly loving and generous. And my father spoke at our civil partnership and that goes and remains for me the most, one of the most important and profound moments of my life.”
2023-02-10 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Iain Anderson One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, it might have meant that I wouldn't have been sitting in front of you today and building a business and chairing a national charity. Because for so long, and I mean, it sounds ridiculous, doesn't it? Section 28 was 20 years after the decriminalization of homosexuality in England and Wales. Interestingly, of course, it took until 1980 for being gay, to be decriminalized where I grew up in Scotland. But, you know, the climate was very different. Human rights, LGBTQ rights were progressing incredibly slowly. People just didn't want to talk about it. People didn't want to acknowledge it.”
2023-02-10 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Iain Anderson One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yes, I was. I was fearful about what the opportunities would be for me in society. I was fearful about the reaction from my family, from my friends, quite what it would mean for the rest of my life.”
2023-02-10 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Iain Anderson One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“So, you know, in my youth, when Section 28 was going through, and I just arrived at university, I remember actually looking back at some of the Hansard debates at the time, people talked about predatory homosexuals. People talked about sex pests. They talked about people who were trying to pervert society. All that language was used. You can see it in Hansard. And similar sorts of language as being used right now, particularly about those people in the trans community. But actually, you know, there was a case just in the last week on mainstream BBC. And somebody talked about an LGBTQ ideology. I mean, I'm not living an ideology. I'm living my life”
2023-02-10 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Iain Anderson One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I don't think there's any danger in doing that. What I'm not into is just hitting Twitter. I'm into actually sitting down and trying to sort things out.”
2023-02-10 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Iain Anderson One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“No, so what I'm interested in doing in people, as I said earlier, people who want to lift up LGBTQ plus people. So not them. Stonewall engages across the piece. And look, actually, when you look at a lot of the polling on this, most people, vast majority of people want to see all LGBTQ people.”
2023-02-10 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Iain Anderson One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Okay, what I said as well to Laura, and I've been saying a lot since, is it's all very, very quick to hit Twitter. And I think this is a, you know, we'll maybe unpack a little bit more of this in our conversation today. You know, people just hit Twitter rather than actually wanting to sit down and have, you know, in my mind, a real engagement. And I think this is the problem right now. People are going for clicks. People are creating a clickbait around people's lives rather than actually wanting to sit down and sort things out. I mean, one of the other things”
2023-02-10 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Iain Anderson One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, no, that's not quite true. I mean, I'm interested, Nick, in a conversation with anybody that wants to help support and lift up LGBTQ plus people. That is absolutely my raison d'etre. And Stonewall, day to day, the team engage across the piece. They talk to groups of across society.”
2023-02-10 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Iain Anderson One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Absolutely. And I'm also married to a raving laborer supporter, too. So it's all very balanced. No, yeah, I mean, for the early part of my life, I was not out. I didn't come out to my parents until I was in my early 30s. There'll be lots of people listening and watching this that identify with that story. There'll also be a whole number of younger people, thank goodness, that think, wow, that feels like ancient history. But sadly, you know, I'm seeing some of the notes of I and countless others experienced in the past coming back to question again whether or not actually you can even be an LGBTQ person. Now, there's quite a lot to do to defend our community. And indeed, go beyond that to actually make this country once again a world leader for human rights.”
2023-02-10 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Iain Anderson One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, firstly, you're making me feel very old up front. Yeah, I've been doing this for a long time. Quite simply, Stonewall changed my life. The raison d'etre, the creation of Stonewall, was when a government was passing a piece of legislation, a Tory government was passing a piece of legislation, which polled really well. You said it was called Section 28. What did it do? It banned the promotion of, as I think I remember, pretend family relationships in school. My life is not a pretend relationship. And Stonewall's gone on to not just help repeal that legislation, but allow LGBTQ plus people to thrive in society. I'm thrilled to take this on. It's challenging. You said it, but it's important work.”
2023-02-10 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Iain Anderson One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source