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Illia Ponomarenko

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first: 2024-07-23
most recent: 2024-07-23
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“This doom, the smell, awful smell of mass graves, the dark air, you know, that was in the air because feel it's in the air that something really bad happened in here. And it felt like, and the weather was bloom, very dark, rainy, cold, with very unpleasant drizzle in the first days of April when we were getting back to all those places and we were seeing discovering all those things. And I must say that, yeah, that person was she had all the reasons to be thinking about this. So like I said, life prevailed nonetheless.”
2024-07-23 · Intelligence Squared · The Story of Wartime Kyiv, with Illia Ponomarenko · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, that was, I don't particularly remember who that was, but that was among someone. I'm on for photographers who were there with us coming back to Bucha. And I must say that I think that was a female photographer. I can't remember the name, actually, but I do remember this. And back then, this person had all the reasons to believe. Because what we saw following the Battle of Kiev, that was something that one could never forget. The atmosphere of evil, of something really bad that had happened in here.”
2024-07-23 · Intelligence Squared · The Story of Wartime Kyiv, with Illia Ponomarenko · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“A lot of people moved in, so it's in many ways what happened to Bucho. And the things that I see every single day as I live here and I see it, it's the triumph of life. Life is getting back, so it's one of the place places to live in the whole of Cave area.”
2024-07-23 · Intelligence Squared · The Story of Wartime Kyiv, with Illia Ponomarenko · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“To me, it's very important as I've sometimes drived to Kiev and to places like Butcha, like Epin, who would badly affect it during the Battle of Kiev. And I see lots of beautiful places and I'm really glad to see that, not simply because I lived there and won't live a comfortable life, but at the same time it's because it reminds me of one of the basic principles of this war is that life always prevails. Life always wins. I remember the moments when we were getting back to Wucha following the Russian occupation, we were seeing all those things that you saw in the news. And many people believe that places like Burcia, like these places, after everything that happened to them, they will be cursed forever. But guess what? That never happened. Life returned. Springtime had come back then. Moms, babies, parks.”
2024-07-23 · Intelligence Squared · The Story of Wartime Kyiv, with Illia Ponomarenko · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And despite everything, despite intuitive problems that what could expect, it's a booming. It's a booming life. It's also about a lot of things that are resurrected from war, from hostilities from two years ago. Large mouths, which are Sources of a lot of income from local population, from businesses, they also get reconstructed with international money, there are lots of Restruction of housing too. In general, the level of life, despite so many bad things happening, it's constantly increasing.”
2024-07-23 · Intelligence Squared · The Story of Wartime Kyiv, with Illia Ponomarenko · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Tomorrow is too late, so we're kind of love today. So, people do a lot of crazy things for their lives, a lot of pivotal things. People start businesses too. People start families. People make proposals to their loved ones in this regard. People buy properties, I must say. And despite, which is one of wartime, which is one of the most surprising thing to me as I live and see what's happening here, that economic life does not stop. parts of this part of Kiev metropolitan area, it was always popular in terms of development, housing, construction, properties, and despite everything, it doesn't stop at all because really a lot of people come to these places, really a lot of people move to Kiev in search of better life, in search of normalcy.”
2024-07-23 · Intelligence Squared · The Story of Wartime Kyiv, with Illia Ponomarenko · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Isabel, so many things in here because a lot of people Had their life changed and they make important and very seemingly not very timely decisions such as getting married or having kids despite wartime, despite all the hardship. But at the same time, there is always this thing. That says when, if not today and all tomorrow may never come.”
2024-07-23 · Intelligence Squared · The Story of Wartime Kyiv, with Illia Ponomarenko · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Defiance a bit of negligence and a lot of thirst for life. So we live a life as normal as possible, which is one of the things that are a victory over Russia, over what they wanted for us, living a life and being happy as the Ukrainian living in Ukraine is a bit of a victory by itself, I guess. So that's what we have.”
2024-07-23 · Intelligence Squared · The Story of Wartime Kyiv, with Illia Ponomarenko · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“People do work jobs, people try to have fun, people adapt to many problems that we are experiencing right now, such as the power outages. With this, we have a lot of technologies on our side. And in general, a lot of enthusiasm and a lot of things that happen to people in wartime. People try to live life as close anonymously as possible, which is what is happening to us here in Ukraine. It's wartime, but at the same time, there are lots of things that are very normal. And they are a mixture of terrible things such as missile attacks that we even hear we can hear from Kiev, from other parts of this metropolitan area. But at the same time, there are lots of beautiful things happen to us. Are doing things that they wouldn't probably do in normal time, but right now there's a bit of fatalism, a bit of”
2024-07-23 · Intelligence Squared · The Story of Wartime Kyiv, with Illia Ponomarenko · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Well, I'm at home in my tiny apartment in the town of Butcha, the town that you know is the symbol of Russian atrocities in this war. But other than that, it's a beautiful town, a very quiet and prosperous suburb just outside Kiev. It's terribly hot. The weather is terribly hot in Ukraine right now these days. And Ukraine, the rear front of Ukraine, Puncha and many other places, they live a life as close to a normal life in wartime as it possibly can be.”
2024-07-23 · Intelligence Squared · The Story of Wartime Kyiv, with Illia Ponomarenko · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT