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  1. It's the only time in my life where I've You actually feel like there's always a conflict between work and life and making sure as a woman, I'd often get asked about, you know, how do you balance work and family? And I never liked that question because balance, it's like elusive. You're one. Fever away from like no balance. Like your child's sick one day, what do you do?

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  2. And thank God he's doing it because I bet you there are a lot of others that don't choose that particular field because of those low success rates.

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  3. Therapeutic interventions they need, but you speak with people like Andrea and so many others. And I mean, you can't not your. Your heart gets seized by it, and it's both, it's motivating and it's hard. It's really hard.

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  4. You feel it intensely. Know we were just talking about human trafficking. I mean, you don't design these policies in the absence of the input of survivors themselves. So you hear their stories. Remember a woman who was really influential in my thinking, Andrea Hipwell. Who she was in college where she was lured out by a guy she thought was a good guy, started dating him. He gets her hooked on drugs, convinces her to drop out of college, and spends the next five years selling her. She only got out when she was arrested. And all too often that's happening too that the victim's being targeted. The perpetrator, so we did a lot with DOJ around changing that. But now she's helping other survivors get skills and job training.

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  5. And you can't want to eradicate one of the greatest evils that the mind can even imagine, you know, the trafficking of people, the exploitation of children. And I think for so many, they assume that this is a problem that doesn't happen on our shores. You know, it's something that you may experience at far-flung destinations across the world, but it's happening there and it's happening here as well. And so through a coalition of people that on both sides of the aisle that I came to trust and to work well with. We were able to get legislation, which the president signed, passed nine pieces of legislation combating trafficking at home and abroad and digital exploitation of children.

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  6. Education often isn't like the bright shiny object everyone's running towards. So one of the hard things in politics when there's something that is good policy, sometimes it has no momentum because it doesn't have a cheerleader. So where are areas of good policy that you can like literally just carry across the finish line? Because people tend to run towards what's the news of the day sort of to try to address whatever issues being talked about on the front pages of papers. And there's so many issues that need to be addressed. And education is one of them that's just underprioritized human trafficking. That's an issue that I didn't go to the White House thinking I would work on, but you hear a story of a survivor

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  7. And that is not true. And that's a dangerous way to think. So, how can we both galvanize the private sector to ensure that they continue to train workers for the jobs they know are coming and how they train their existing workforce into the new jobs with robotics or machinery or new technologies that are coming down the pike. So galvanizing the private sector to join us in that effort. So whether it's the legislative side, like the actual legislation of Perkins CT, which was focused on vocational education, or whether it's the ability to use the White House to galvanize the private sector, we got over 16 million commitments from the private sector to retrain or reskill workers. into the jobs of tomorrow.

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  8. Yeah, it's amazing. It's one of the largest pieces of conservation legislation since the national park system was created. And over 300 million people visit our national parks, the vast majority of them being Americans every year. So this is something that is real and beneficial for people's lives, getting rid of the deferred maintenance, permanently funding them. But there are other issues like that that just weren't being prioritized, modernizing Perkins CTE, and vocational education. And it's something I became super passionate about and help lead the charge on. I think in America for a really long period of time, we've really believed that education stops when you leave high school or college.

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  9. Trust too. Like, I learned tax cuts was really interesting for me because I met with so many people across the political spectrum on advancing that policy. I really figured out who was willing to deviate from their talking points when the door was closed and who wasn't. And it takes some courage to do that, especially without surety that it would actually get done. Especially if they've campaigned on something that was slightly different. And not everyone has that courage. So through tax cuts, I learned the people who did have that courage. And I went back to that well time and time again on policies that I thought were important. Some were bipartisan, the great American Outdoors Act is something it's incredible policy.

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  10. Surprises that on certain policy issues that I thought would have been well socialized. Policies that existed were never shared across the aisle. So people just lived with them, maybe in hopes that one day they would have the votes to get exactly what they want. But I was surprised by how little discussion there was. So I think part of it is be willing to have those tough discussions with people who may not share your viewpoint and be an active listener when they point out flaws and they have suggestions for changes, not believing that you have a monopoly on good ideas. And I think there has to be a lot of humility in architecting these things. And a policy should benefit from that type of well-rounded input.

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  11. Think first and foremost, you have to be willing to talk with them. So one of the policies I advocate for was paid family leave. We left, and 9 million more Americans had it through a combination of securing it for our federal workforce. I had people in the White House who were pregnant who didn't have access to paid leave. So we want to keep people attached to the workforce yet when they have an important life event like a child. We create an impossibility for that. You know, some people don't even have access to unpaid leave if they're part-time workers. And then we also put in place the first ever national tax credit for workers making under $72,000 a year where employers could then offer it to their workers. That was also part of tax cuts. So, you know, part of it is really taking the arguments as to why this is good, smart, well-designed policy to people. And, you know, it was one of my big

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  12. Were definitely people I met with in Washington who I felt that was true of. You know, they all go back to their districts, and I assume that they all have some similar experiences to what I had where people share their stories. So there'd be something really cynical about thinking they forget. But, you know, some do.

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  13. Childcare Center in her home. And her center was so successful because in part of different policies we worked on, including the childcare block grants that went to the state, she ended up opening additional centers. I visited her at one of them in Colorado. Now she has like a huge focus on helping teenage moms who don't have the resources to afford quality childcare for their kids come into her centers and programs. And it's stories like that of the hardships people face, but also what they do with opportunity when they're given it that really powers you through tough moments when you're in Washington.

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  14. Yeah, the people who shared with me their experience. And, you know, during the campaign, it was what they hoped to see happen. Once you were in there, it was what they were seeing, what they were experiencing, the result of the policies. That was the fuel, you know, on the hardest days. Like, that was the fuel child tax credit. I remember visiting with a woman, Brittany Houseman. She came to the White House. She had two small children. She was pregnant with her third. Her husband was killed in a car accident. She was in school at the time. Her dream was to become criminal justice advocate that was no longer on the table for her after he passed away and she became the sole earner and provider for her family. And she couldn't afford childcare. She couldn't afford to stay in schools, so she ended up creating.

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  15. Going into their districts, campaigning in their districts, helping them convince their constituents of why it's important, of why childcare support is important, of why paid family leave is important, of different policies that impact working American families. It's hard, but it's really rewarding. And then to get it done, I mean, just the child tax credit alone, 40 million American families got an average of $2,200 each year as a result of the doubling of the child tax credits. That's one component of tax cuts.

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  16. To get things done, you know, there are a lot of people who Would prefer to Cling to the problem and their talking points about how they're going to solve it rather than sort of roll up their sleeves and do the work it takes to build coalitions of support and find people who are willing to compromise and move the ball. And so it's extremely difficult. And, you know, Jared and I talk about all the time. It probably should be because these are highly consequential policies that impact people's lives at scale. shouldn't be so easy to do them and they are doable, but it's challenging. You know, one of the first experiences I had where it really was just a full grind effort was with tax cuts and the work I did to get the child tax credit doubled as part of it. And it just meant meeting after meeting after meeting after meeting with lawmaker, convincing them of why this is good policy.

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  17. You come with me? And it's really hard to say no. You know, I spent four years in Washington. I feel like I left it all in the field. I feel really good about it. I feel really privileged to have been able to do what I did.

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  18. And stands for five, ten minutes doesn't answer. So she has a choice. Does she go to the interview with her children or does she try to cancel? She gets in her car, drives to the interview, leaves her two children in the back seat of the car with the window cracked, goes into the interview, and gets pulled out of the interview by police because somebody had called the cops after seeing her, her children in the back seat of the car. She gets thrown in jail. Her kids get taken from her and she spends years fighting to regain custody. And I think about that's an extreme example. But I think about something like that and I say if I was the mother and we were homeless, like would I have gone to that interview? And I probably would have. And that is not like an acceptable situation. You know, so you hear stories like that. You get asked

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  19. Over a matter of months, she lost her home. So she wound up with her two young kids after bouncing around between neighbors living in their car. She gets a call back from one of the many interviews she had done for a second interview where she was all but guaranteed the job should that go well and she had arranged childcare for her two young children with a neighbor in her old apartment block and the morning of the interview she shows up and the neighbor doesn't answer the doorbell

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  20. The problems and experiences of Americans I gave you an example before of the father in New Hampshire. But even just in my consumption of information, I had a business that was predominantly young women, many of which were thinking about having a kid, had just had a child, were planning on that life event. And I knew what they needed to be able to show up every day and realize this dream for themselves and the support structures they would need to have in place. And I remember reading this article at the time in one of the major newspapers of a woman she had had a very solid job working at one of the blue chip accounting firms. And the recession came. She lost her job around the same time as her partner left her.

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  21. 70 or 80 year old version of myself looking back and having been okay with having said no and going back to my life as I knew it before. I mean, in retrospect, I realized there is no life as you know it before, you know, but just the idea of not saying yes wherever that would lead me. And so I dove in. You know, I was also during the course of Campaign, I was just much more sensitive to

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  22. And so there was a big part of me that was just wanted to get through, just get through it without really thinking forward to what the implications were for me. But when my father won, he asked Jared and I to join him. In asking that question, keep in mind he was a total outsider. So there was no bench of people as he would have today. He had never spent the night in Washington, D.C. before. Staying in the White House. And so when he asked us to join him, he trusted us. Trusted in our ability to execute. And there wasn't a part of me that could imagine.

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  23. You know, the campaign, I never thought about joining. It was kind of like get to the end of it. And when it started, I was like everything in my life was almost firing on all cylinders. I had two young kids at home during the course of the campaign. I ended up, I was pregnant with my third. So this young family, my businesses, real estate and fashion and working alongside my brothers running the Trump Hotel collection. And we had so many, my life was full and busy.

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  24. Know, I think there's a minority of people that are doing most of the yelling and screaming. And the majority of Americans just want to send their kid to a great school. And while their communities thrive. Want to be able to realize their dreams and aspirations. So I saw a lot more of that than Would feel obvious if you looked at a Twitter feed.

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  25. Meet people along the way, and they're not leading with what their politics are. They're telling you about their hopes for themselves and their communities. And it makes you feel that we are a whole lot less divided than, you know, the media and others would have us believe.

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  26. Relative to what it was becoming. So there was a lot of growth in that as well. But I do think you think about the vitriol and politics. And, you know, whether it's worse than it's been in the past or not, I think that's up for debate. I think, you know, there have been duels, there's been screaming and there's, you know, Politics has always been a blood sport, and it's always been incredibly vicious. I think in the toxic swirl of social media, it's more amplified and there's more sort of democratization around participating in it, perhaps. And it seems like the voices are louder, but it's always been, it feels like it's always been that. But I don't believe most people are like that. And, you know,

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  27. I think a couple reactions to what you just said. I think. The first is you're You connect with people like that, you Are so inspired by their courage in the face of adversity. And their resilience. And it's like a truly remarkable experience for me. The campaign lifted me out of a bubble. I didn't even know I was in. You know, I grew up on the upper east side of New York and I felt like I was well traveled and well educated. And I believe that I believed at the time that I'd been exposed to divergent viewpoints. And I realized during the campaign how limited my exposure had been.

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  28. And they do so, etc. Raw, vulnerable in real way It's shocking. And eye-opening and super motivating. I remember once I was in New Hampshire and early on right after my father had announced his candidacy and a man walks up to me in the greeting line. Within around five seconds, he had started to tell me a story about how his daughter had died of an overdose. And how he was worried his son was also addicted to opioids. Daughter's friends Son's friends and It's heartbreaking. It's heartbreaking, and it's something that I would experience every day in talking with people.

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  29. On like anything I've ever experienced. When I'd done the apprentice before, people may know who I was in some of these situations that I was going into, but they wouldn't have shared with me these things that you got the impression that oftentimes their own spouses wouldn't know and they wouldn't do so within 30 seconds. You learn so much about what motivates people, what drives people, what their concerns are, and you grow so much as a result of it.

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  30. But I think then the process that unfolded over the next couple of years was also like the most extraordinary growth experience of my life. You know, suddenly I was going into communities that I probably never would have been to. And I was talking with people who in 30 seconds would reveal to me their deepest insecurity, their gravest fear, their wildest ambitions, all of it with the hope that in telling me that story it would get back to Potential future president of the United States and have impacts for their family, for their community. So the level of candor and vulnerability

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  31. Wow, everything changed. Almost overnight. We learned that he was planning to announce his candidacy two weeks before he actually did. Nothing about our lives had been constructed with politics in mind, you know, most often when people are exposed to politics at that level, that sort of national level, there's first like. City Council run and then made the state level run and maybe, maybe Congress Senator ultimately the presidency. So it was unheard of for him never to have run a campaign and then run for president and win. So it was Was an extraordinary experience there. There was so much intensity and so much scrutiny and so much noise. So that took for sure like a moment to acclimate too. I'm not sure I ever fully acclimated, but it definitely was. Was a super unusual experience.

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  32. Four, five, six ways, just like crash on top of your head. And the worst thing you can do is get reactive and scared and try and fight against it. You kind of just have to flow with it until inevitably there's a break and then paddle like hell back out to the line or to the beach, whatever, you know, whatever you're feeling. But to me, that's the hardest part, the paddling out.

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  33. Those are the ones people post. Well, I actually had the unique experience of one of my first time surfing. I only learned a couple of years ago, so I'm not good. I just love it. I love everything about it. I love the physicality. I love being in the ocean. I love everything about it. The hardest thing with surfing is paddling out because when you're like committing, you catch a wave. Obviously sometimes like, you know, you flip over your board and that doesn't feel great. But when you're in sort of the line of impact and you've maybe surfed a good wave in and now you're going out for another set and you get sort of stuck in that impact line, there's like nothing you can do. You just sort of sit there and you try to dive underneath it and it will pound you and pound you. So I've been stuck there while, you know.

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  34. And you can't fight it, right? Just have to sort of be in it. And I think in surfing, one of the things I love about it is I feel like a lot of water sports or like manipulating the environment, you know. And there's something that can be a little violent about it. Like you look at windsurfing and where's wind surfing, you're like in harmony with it. So you're not fighting it. You're flowing with it. And you still have like the agency of choosing which waves you're going to surf. You sit there and you read the ocean and you learn to understand it. Can't control it

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  35. I think it's so humbling to feel so small too. Like, I feel like. When we get busy and when we're running around, it's easy to feel So in our head, and we feel sort of so consequential, like in the context of even our own lives. And then you find yourself in a situation like that. And I think you feel so much more connected knowing how minuscule you are in the broader sense. And I feel that way when I'm on the ocean on a surfboard. You know, you just, it's really humbling to be so small amidst that vast sea. And it feels, um, Feels really beautiful, you know, with no noise, no chatter, no distractions, just being in the moment. And it sounds like you experienced that in a very, very real way in the Amazon.

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  36. That's really funny because there aren't that many animal species that are monogamous. And you highlighted one example where they literally sound like. They're bickering

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  37. Felt that. I mean, I watched the interview you did with him and And you felt that like his passion and enthusiasm, like it radiated and captivated. I mean, I love animals. Like I love all animals. Never love snakes so much. And he almost made me, now I appreciate the beauty of them much more than I did prior to listening to him speak about them. But it's an infectious thing. He actually, we were talking about skyscrapers before. I loved, he called trees skyscrapers of life.

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  38. Came once to a performance. I wanted to be one moment in time. I wanted a professional ballerina. And I was working really hard. I was going to the School of American Ballet. I was dancing at the Lincoln Center in the Nutcracker. I was super serious, you know, nine, ten-year-old. And my parents came to a Christmas performance of the nutcracker and my father brought Michael Jackson with him. And everyone was so excited that all the dancers, they wore one glove. But I remember he was so shy. He was so quiet. And when you'd see him like in smaller group settings, and then you'd watch him walk onto stage. And it was like. Completely different person like the vitality that came into him. And you say that's like someone who was born to do what he did. And I think there are a lot of performers like that.

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  39. I feel to myself, I'm like, does my voice really sound like that? Why do I do this thing or that thing? I find it some people are super at ease, and who knows, maybe they're not either, but some people feel like they're at ease. Know my father was, I think, like who you saw as who you get. And I think that made him so effective in that medium because he was just himself and he was totally unselfish. I was not. I was totally self-conscious. So it was extraordinary, but also a little challenging for me.

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  40. It was really weird. I really struggled watching myself on the episodes. Like I really, I still to this day, like television as a medium, like the fact that we're taping this. I'm more self-conscious than if we weren't. I just

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  41. And oftentimes there was like an overlay, like there were episodes that they came up with brand campaigns for my shoe collection or my clothing line or design challenges related to a hotel I was responsible for building. So there was this unbelievable crossover that was obviously great for us from a business perspective. But it's sometimes surreal to experience.

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  42. In Trump Tower, oftentimes, like in the lobby of Trump Tower, that's where the war rooms and boardrooms of the candidates were, the contestants were. And then we would go up in the elevator to our office. We would work all day. And then we'd come down and we'd evaluate the tasks. It was this weird real life television thing experience in the middle of our sort of on the bookends of our workday. So it was intense.

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  43. Taught to classes in this university in Boston. So it was extraordinary. And this was like a real life classroom I was in. So I think because of the nature of the show, you learn a lot about teamwork and you're watching it and analyzing it real time. You learned a lot about a lot of the tasks were very marketing oriented because of the short duration of time they had to execute. A lot of, you learned a lot about time management because of that short duration. So almost every episode would devolve into people hysterical over the fact that they had 10 minutes left to With this Herculean lift ahead of them. So it was a fascinating, it was a fascinating experience for me. And we would be filming. I mean, we would film first thing in the morning at like five or six a.m.

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  44. Amazing. But it was such a wild experience for me because I was quite young when I was on it, just getting started in business. And it was the number one television show in the country. And it went on to be syndicated all over the world. And it was just this wild, like. Phenomenal success, you know, a business show had never crossed over in this sort of way. So it was really a moment in time and you had regular apprentice and then the celebrity apprentice. But the tasks, I mean, they went on to be studied at business schools across the country. So every other week, I'd be reading case studies of how the apprentice was being examined.

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  45. There is, but I actually think in this case, as you get older, you may act less impulsively, but I think you're more like attuned with, you have more experience, so your gut is like more well-honed, you know? Your instincts are more well honed. I think. I found that to be true for me. You know, it doesn't feel as reckless as when I was younger.

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  46. And then I put it through like a rigorous test of whether that is in fact true. Very seldom do I go against what my initial instinct was, at least at this point in my life

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  47. It's like trust but verify, you know Think I think that's also where age and experience comes into play because I think you always have sort of a gut instinct. But I think intuition, like well-honed intuition comes from a place of accumulated knowledge, right? So oftentimes when you feel really strongly about something, it's because you've sort of been there, like you know what's right. on a personal level if you're acting in accordance With your core values. You know, it just feels good. And even if it would be the right decision for others, if you're acting outside of your sort of integrity or core values, it doesn't feel good. And your intuition will signal that to you. You'll never be comfortable. So I think because of that, I start oftentimes with my intuition and then I

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  48. Circumstances similar to that, they were afraid to try for fear of not measuring up. And I think somehow early on, I learned to kind of harness the fear of not being good enough, not being competent enough. And I harnessed it to make me better and to push me outside of my comfort zone. I think that's always lived with me. And I think it probably always will. I think you have to have humility in anything you do that you could be better and strive for that. Think as you get older, it softens a little bit as you have more reps, as you have more examples of having been thrown in the deep end and figured out how to swim, you get a little bit more comfortable in your sort of abstract competency. But if that fear is not in you, I think you're not challenging yourself enough.

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  49. I think every day. I think I wake up in the morning and, you know, I want to be better. I want to be a better mom. I want to be a better wife. I want to be more creative. I want to be physically stronger. And so that very much lives within me all the time. You know, I think I also grew up in the context of being the child of two extraordinarily successful parents. That could have been debilitating for me. And I saw that in a lot of my friends who grew up in.

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  50. And you come back, and your dog sees you like it's the first time. So I love replicating that in robots. They actually say children, like one of the reasons why peekaboo is so successful. Is that they actually don't remember not having seen you a few seconds prior? There's a term for it. But I remember when my kids were younger, you leave the room and you walk back in 30 seconds later and they experience the same joy as if you had been gone for four hours. And we grew out of that. We become very used to one another.

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