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  1. But see, we're programmed and conditioned to reach out. No, it's all about you. So get your no sacred? Your yes holy, create your boundaries. So your work now, again, is about forgiving yourself for believing, A, you did anything wrong. B, that you should have done more. And C, forgive yourself for feeling guilty about no longer being willing to participate in her choice.

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  2. Spiritual hygiene. Yeah, that was all about you. How far will you go before you say no? When will you set up a boundary? When will you hold?

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  3. You think this was about her? It was about you You can't, somebody else can't learn their lessons in your life. Hear me? Only you.

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  4. No longer being willing to participate in someone else's self-destructive choice. And why I say forgive yourself for no longer being willing because there's a part of you that thinks you should. Yep, of course. The evolved part, the clean part is no longer willing to participate in that. So you're forgiving a part of you that's forgiving is the part that's saying to that other part. No, no, I'm not willing to participate with you in that conglomeration. Yeah.

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  5. Been on for a long time. Yes Can you forgive yourself for not being able to do more based on her choice? That's number one. Can you forgive yourself for no longer being willing to participate in her self-destruction? Can you forgive yourself for that?

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  6. What part of you tells you you should be doing something different? Because again, everything is energy. The laws of the universe are flowing. This is the law of cause and effect. The cause always comes on the inside and then it'll show up on the outside. So she is voicing something you're holding. What part of you is saying I need to be doing more?

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  7. Betraying myself betraying. And you're not just performing. You're just showing up because you think you have to because you feel obligated or because you're afraid of what other people are going to say. We get to age. I forget what people say, so I really don't care. Say that if you want, I won't remember. Go on say it.

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  8. Holy yes. Holy yes. Is when I make a commitment about a promise to do something because I want to. And it's coming from because I think I have to. That's right. And it's coming from the same.

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  9. You didn't have a sacred no Or a holy yes. Very important in spiritual hygiene. Your no has to be sacred, meaning it's protecting, it's governing, it's guiding. When you give your no. It has to be solid and firm from the inside out. A sacred note and a holy yes, meaning your yes inspires, enlightens, evolves, help. You don't just give a yes. A sacred no is a boundary.

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  10. If she ever comes to you and asks for anything and needs it and you can give it to her, you can give it to her, through the door. You don't have to take the chain off. Just reach it out here, Mom. No guilt, no shame. And maybe you don't have to talk to everybody about it. Talk to your weird friends, people like me. I mean,

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  11. In helping her out of obligation. Sacrificing yourself. That is not only poor spiritual hygiene. It's abuse. Self abuse Put yourself out. But in this contaminated world we live in, that's what we think we're supposed to do. But each of us is given the gift of a life, each of us. And each of us gets to choose. But always, beloved, vote for you first. And people who love you and care about you, like I hear that story and you say, you know, she's homeless. You had to let her go and vote for you. I'm like yes. Good spiritual hygiene. Good spiritual hygiene. Good spiritual. You know, but I'm weird. But what a courageous act. What a courageous act.

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  12. Well, okay. You know, sometimes you got to let your loved one hit rock bottom because God made the rock. God made the rock. So if she doubt in rock bottom, that's her business and God's business. That's number one. Number two, helping somebody out of obligation.

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  13. Wait a minute bad spiritual hygiene to have that feeling and ignore it. Let it come up. Honor yourself. It won't kill you. Look how far you've come. Breathe, breathe in it. Yeah. See how brilliant the body is. The body is cleansing itself. Tears cleanse. It's bad spiritual hygiene to feel an emotion and then to keep everybody comfortable. You keep on going like the thing more even there. Go ahead. We'll just wait for you. Listen, take care

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  14. You hit the curve and you got a maneuver, but you get around, and then when you get around, got that one. And then before you, there's another one. And sometimes you go a long stretch before you hit a curve or a ditch or whatever. But we are equipped. We have so little faith in ourselves.

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  15. And also, that's why God built roads that curve. So you can only see from here to there, then you got to go around the curve. And then you see from there to the next, right? Then you got to go around another curve. Because you have to sit here and look there. I can't do that. I can't do it. I can't do it. Yes.

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  16. You're equipped to handle it. That's the peace. We think that we're not equipped to handle being left or being diseased or being this or that. You are equipped to handle it. You really are. Every car is built with a tank of gas that will get it where it needs to go. So are you? You know, I would have never said, well, yeah, let my mother die, let my uncle raped me. Let me get pregnant as a teenager. That sounds like an exciting thing to do. I would have never picked that thing. But when I look back now and my evolution from the little girl Ronnie into Rhonda the woman into Yamla the writer into, I say, wow, yeah, I did have what I needed because I made it through. Yeah.

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  17. And then when they come back later on and they're asking you to think, well, what is you sign? You accepted it, right? I accepted it, yes.

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  18. And they missed the power of what they did get. You know, we signed up for this. We did. And again, that's another beauty of grief. While grief takes you into the pain, it also expands you because once you learn the meaning of the great grief.

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  19. It may not be the way we like it. So the thing becomes, what did I learn? What did you gain? What did you grow? See, for me, I became a guardian of the truth. That's my spiritual high. Don't lie to me and I won't lie to you. I became a guardian of the truth because of the very devastating experience. What did you learn that you can then use? I learned how to bury my second daughter by the mistakes I made burying the first one. I know that sounds bizarre, but this is like spiritual hygiene. You know, this is what we do. Like you have to take chemo, which could have devastating effects to cure cancer, but you want to be healthy. So you deal with the effects. There's something, lesson, a mission, a purpose in what you went through. And don't compare yourself to your sister. You got what you needed, she got what she needed.

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  20. Everything is a lie. And so for me, I can smell a lie. Know so truth for me, you know, that is like my minimum daily requirement. I can't deal with a lie. So what I would say, first of all, start relanguaging your story. And again, let me go to the base. Everything happens the way it needs to happen.

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  21. Your mother and father never got up one morning and said, Let me destroy my kids by going out here and get some drugs. That would have been a bad decision So I just encourage you and invite you to relanguage that story, not to make yourself a victim. It had a negative impact on you. That's the truth. And then everyone, the family participated in it by not telling the truth about it Imagine nobody told you your mother was on drugs or incarcerated. Nobody told me my mother was dead. So I grew up Thinking one person was my mother who was Until I was 30.

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  22. Or dissociate. Can't everybody's made the same way. God gave us all a brain, a heart, a nervous system. It's not that they don't feel. It's that the dishonesty, the emotional dishonesty, so they numb or dissociate and move on in performance. But let me say this to you. Thank you for sharing that. I want to support you and kind of recreating the beginning. I heard you say my parents made decisions that they should not have made. And I got the bed That makes them wrong. And in spiritual hygiene, we don't want to make people wrong. We want to see their humanity. And tell the truth about it. They made the best decisions they could make based on who they were in the information they had at the time. And those decisions had a negative impact on you. That's the

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  23. And the reason I said good that they didn't tell you anything is because that meant you had a lot less to unlearn. A lot of us were told stuff that we then had to

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  24. And in this contempt, our world is contaminated right now. Spiritually, physically, emotionally contaminated. People are scared to death.

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  25. Number one, Stillness Be still and know. What's next? What to do? What not to do? Be still and know how you feel. How are you feeling? Not fine. That means effed up, insecure, and neurotic and excited about it. That's what fine means. That's acronym. You know, people will just, it's habitual, fine. No, you're not.

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  26. Number one breat There's 50 people sitting right in here that ain't breathing. Airs going in and out their nose, but I'm talking Fill the lungs. Let your whole body participate in your breath. Because we walk around and schedule and tight and performing.

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  27. Me happy. So it makes me happy to make her happy. So just be careful. Trying to give them what you didn't have or what you wanted, make sure that's what they need. That's not what my children needed. Not what Nisa needed. Nisa needed hugs and kisses. Her love language were words of affirmation. Jamea's love language was quality time, which she got because I took my kids everywhere with me. Her, Damon, he said, I was dragging them along like little ducklings But that's not what she needed. So, in my quest to work two jobs and to keep the home and to have the food and to buy the clothes, I miss giving her what she needed, which were words of affirmation.

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  28. I didn't have a stable home. They had to have a stable home. I had food scarcity. Even now, at my age with everything that I have, two refrigerators full to the brim right now. You can come to my house, you want anything. Why? Because I live with food scarcity. I didn't know always where my next meal was coming from. And so today I can afford to refrigerators as food to the brim. Full right now. Because that keeps my little girl safe

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  29. And also giving it to her children. Yes. Well, I want to just from a spiritually hygienic perspective, I want to be careful with that because that was my goal, to give my children what I didn't have. And in doing so, I forgot about the kids. I got into the giving them. Understand what

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  30. Yeah, so, but what you want, I know, baby. I know. But what is it that you want a daddy to take you to the park? Let's go to the park. I don't care if it's 18 inches of snow on the ground. Take your butt out to the park. And let her, you know? You can fill that hole by giving yourself what it is that you thought you should have gotten from the other person and then forgive them for not.

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  31. Everybody do, but again, it's not the grown person. It's not you today that's grieving. It's the five-year-old, it's the seven-year-old. Even when she uses your eyes, she's not counting how. You're not counting how many children Daddy has. You as an adult, you may say, boy, you need to stop it. But she's like, but them, but he didn't do it for me. I want my daddy.

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  32. Absolutely. But the good spiritual hygiene is acknowledging this hurts. And I have the right to grieve it. And I have the right to live beyond it. Spiritual hygiene as a daily devotion to taking care of your mind, your heart, and your spirit will clean up any residue for you, and it'll bring that little one who's grieving into alignment so that she's not running your life.

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  33. but let her grieve and also let her know that she can still love her daddy even though he chooses not to be in relationship with her

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  34. That much love you ain't missing nothing. But anyway I would say let the little girl grieve. Because daddies make us princesses. Not you grown woman, that little one. Let her grieve, ask her, the three-year-old, the five-year-old, the seven-year-old, what did you want from Daddy? And then you give it to her. Let her grieve, let her weep, let her cry, let her feel it, let her heart break, because that's what's going to teach you how to love him from a distance and forgive him. And forgive yourself for thinking you shouldn't miss your daddy. You've been so busy trying to be strong until you're ignoring her pain. It's her pain. It's not really yours because you're big, all grown up and you got this hunk of hunk of burning love over here.

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  35. But that's your experience. How do you know that for your soul, your purpose, your mission in life? Perhaps who he was would not have been healthy for you. See, I believe everything is just as it needs to be. God doesn't kick us out and then abandon us. So there's a reason, a purpose, that your daddy would be around the corner and you see him every day. And maybe that purpose wouldn't have been served with him being in your life. My mother was an alcoholic. Who died when I was three. And so the good news is I didn't know. They forgot to tell me she was dead. So they told me this woman was my mother. She wasn't. That's a whole nother story. But I often wonder that I benefit not growing up as a child of an alcoholic. Hear I don't know what that would look like.

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  36. Loss, or is it a disappointment? You got to get clear about what it is that you're trying to heal. You haven't lost. Means you have an expectation that daddy would do this, that, or the other. Would that be accurate

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  37. Everything is energy because energy frequency vibration. Energy is the essence of life. It's the movement of life. It's the flow of life that manifests both physically and visibly, but intangibly and invisibly. So we perform at the physical level, make yourself look nice, do this, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, but it's at the invisible level, the being level where everything is born. Somebody gets pregnant, they don't get pregnant on the outside. They get pregnant on the inside. And that energy is in there, that life force is in there, and the egg and the sperm, and they're doing all their little wonderfulness to make the human being. That's all invisible. Energy, it's there. We are so addicted to the physicality, the third dimension, if I can see it. So what happens is we get to doing. We do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, and forget about our being.

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  38. It's a lack of joy. We taught to perform. God gave us everything that we need to be a unique in the divine expression of God. And we walk around selling and camouflaging what we think are false.

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  39. Freedom God gave us, the freedom to be who we are. We are programmed and conditioned to perform. There's probably people sitting in this room right now. I ain't talking about, I'm not going to look at anybody in particular. Who got all kinds of Wahhala and conglomeration going on in their life, but they'll go out in the streets. And somebody will say, How are you doing fine? I'm good. No, you're not. Now you don't have to spill your guts out to everybody you see, but just we've lost that level of connection and trust where you can say to somebody, I need help. You don't stay that long enough. That's why suicide rates are up. That's why things like diabetes.

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  40. Real hygiene. Bad. Yes, bad. And so people won't tell the truth. And truth is a key element of clean living and divine freedom.

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  41. Because one of the things that I think is killing this country, the world in general, is dishonesty. And people will look at somebody telling them a lie and grin. What the hell? Yes. That's a lie. Now, you don't have to say it like that. That's not spiritually. You know, you have to find a better way to say that. But the truth is just so contaminated today. And that's poor spiritual hygiene. We don't tell ourselves that dress is too short. Go somewhere and sit down, take that thing off. We won't even say that to ourselves.

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  42. This society is set up where you're wrong if you tell the truth. Really, if you tell the truth, you're wrong. And if you're wrong, you're bad. So people don't want to tell the truth. I had to tell the truth because looking at my children and all I thought I had done for them and looking at what I was looking at, what the hell happened? You happen. Don't look at the fruit, look at the tree.

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  43. So I taught them to lie. I taught them to deny. I taught them to avoid. I mirrored it for them. And then that's what they did. That's a failure on my part as a mother.

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  44. I fail my children. I think I've said that publicly many times that I was a horrible mother. Horrible. I was a great father. I was a horrible mother. Mothers nourish, nurture, teach. Mothers are firm. I didn't do that. I protected, I provided. That's what dads do. I was a horrible mother. When I recognize I failed my children from the perspective of spiritual hygiene was because I denied my pain. I ignored my pain. I covered it. I called it something else. I put myself in unclean, unhealthy, unproductive situations, dragging my kids along with me and expected them to stay quiet about it. I lived for nine years in an abusive marriage and never talk to my children about it. Expected them to see their mother with a black eye, a busted.

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  45. You want to stop other people in their tracks from doing that and passing it on to their children. There's a chapter in there spiritual hygiene for parenting. I Her lesson was different and her choices were different. But I can see the contributions that I made to her dysfunction and destruction. Her choice was to hold on to it She had choices. She could have healed it. She didn't. That was her choice.

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  46. What I did as a frightened, guilty, crazy 16, 17 year old. And you know what he said? He said, stop being my mother and just be my friend. That's what I Now he's old, I'm older. Now I can be his mother again because I got good sense. But back then I was healing myself. All of my infectious diseases of my mind and heart I visited upon my children. I have to tell the truth about that. And Nisa struggled the most because she was my greatest marriage.

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  47. Well, you know what? It's funny about Damon. I had Damon when I was 16. We grew up together. So almost everything I learned as I learned it, I was teaching it to him. We grew up attached at the hip. And I've always told Damon the truth. And when Damon had his challenges in life, I'll never forget the day he called me and he went off. I mean, I was just the wretched of the earth, child, please. You did this and you didn't do that and you did this. And everything he said was true. But as a mom, I had to hear it with spiritual ears. And when he finished lamb blasting me, I said, tell me how I can do it different now. I didn't defend. I didn't explain. I had had a little spiritual hygiene by then. I said, tell me how I can do it different now. Because I couldn't go back and clean up.

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  48. How much I can love. Grief is such a powerful teacher. Grief is such a powerful healer. Grief is such a powerful lesson. It teaches us how to heart can contract and expand at the same time. Contract because of the hurt and the ache, but expand because you have to learn how to love the unseen. I still love my babies. Those are still my babies. I love them deeply. And now grief takes you out of the attachment to physical. I'm not attached to their physical anymore. Now I'm loving them heart to heart, soul to soul. Grief taught me how to do that. Because I couldn't grieve forever. I had to come out of it.

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  49. Many years ago Doesn't seem like it as a mom. It seems like last Tuesday. But it's been 21 years So spiritually, she was complete. She did what she came to do. So, when she passed so much, I didn't know. When Nisa passed, I remembered, I know how to do this. You don't have to do everything by yourself. I'm going to call somebody. You don't have to figure everything out, get some help. I knew how to do it. And so very often, one of the reasons we have spiritual hygiene, poor spiritual hygiene, is because we meet every challenge as though it's new. You've been left before. You've been disappointed before. What did you learn that time that you can use now? We meet every challenge with a hair on fire. What is that? Listen, this is your third breakup. Act like you done broke up before.

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  50. I know that sounds crazy When Jamea left her body and I had to bury my first child, my best friend, she was my best friend.

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