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Jack Whitehall

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“I mean, yeah, I mean, that can take me out for a couple of days, like rejection, professional rejection, not getting a part in something, a bad review, things like that. And then for a couple of days, I'll sort of be spinning out. And then I'll catch myself doing it and be like, what am I doing? I don't need to do that. I have more sensitivity, I think, than I sort of let on. I've always sort of billed myself as being quite resilient and thick-skinned, which I am to a degree, but I think there are things, an element where I am a little bit more sensitive and vulnerable than I tell people.”
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“I'm not present when I should be present. I think that's where I feel it Is most frustrating in my life is when I'm worrying about fucking nonsense that doesn't need to be consuming me and I'm not present with friends and family and people that I need to give more of myself to.”
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“Yeah, I mean, there is, yeah, and there is no kind of playbook for it, is there, like with a career and with, you know, with all of it. So like the worst thing you can do is start like. Comparing yourself to other people Like thinking about that too much as well, and I mean so many times I'm just like, why don't I just delete all social media from my phone? I think I would be such a good thing for my mental well-being. I just haven't quite brought myself to do it yet, but maybe that's something that I should try. It's just like the worrying about stuff that is not worth worrying about. It's like I wish I want to get better at that. I really want to work at that.”
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“And I think the key to not allowing that to consume you is to sort of just try to refocus your mind on what's important and ultimately some of the things that are the concerns that build up as professional anxieties ultimately aren't as important as long as you're doing as long as I'm still doing stand up and still doing what I love and still getting to act and perform, it doesn't necessarily matter. How I'm doing that, I'm doing what I love, and that should be enough. And then also just like refocusing my energies on my work-life balance and focusing on what's important, my relationship, family. Those are the things that make me happy. And as long as those are working, then I think I will feel fulfilled. And so I think it's, yeah, it's how I frame that in my head.”
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“No, I mean, I don't know. I don't know where it comes from. And it's not like a cancel culture thing of me going, oh, look, I'm worried, I'm going to say something. And then all of a sudden, like I'm going to get cancelled and then I'm never going to be able to do shows again. It's not even like linked to that, although obviously there is like a small chance that that could happen. I don't necessarily feel like Push the boundaries in such a way that that feels likely I don't know how I've allowed that to creep up on me.”
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“Yeah, I mean that element of it does for sure and I don't remember feeling that when I was in my kind of early 20s but all of a sudden they sort of creep up on you and you're in your own thoughts a lot more and constantly like Like I don't know. Just thinking about About, like, I just, for me, it's like worry that it will all go away. That's always like the kind of greatest fear is that it's just going to stop. And I've loved doing it. But yeah, there are lots of other added pressures that weren't existent when I started doing it. And I look back on it. And I do kind of like miss that headspace.”
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“Enjoyed it, and I still do to an extent when I'm like. Maybe more so now, like when I'm working it through, there is like a sadomasochistic thing that quite enjoys like the tricky gigs and Like working out why it hasn't worked and what I need to do.”
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“Yeah, yeah. And I do, and I connected with his documentary in that aspect when I watched it and saw him articulate some of those elements. Because it is so true. Yeah, you do a show now and you're putting it on in an arena and the level of expectation is so much higher and you've got to shift a huge amount of tickets. There's going to be reviewers there. You've got to entertain like a vast crowd. If it goes wrong, like that's a news event. And back then. There was none of that. Like, I die in a pub, you know. If Jack Whitehall crashes and burns in the middle of an empty forest, does he make a sound? My forest was a pub in Preston.”
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“And, you know All felt so full of possibility. I just think I was sort of unburdened by all of the kind of anxieties that I would have now as a comedian and a performer.”
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“Pretty soul crushing. But I don't know why. I don't know why I like, and there were a lot of those at the beginning. I think probably because I was like still at that point, I was living in Manchester with all of my mates in a student house and having like a great time, didn't have many worries in the world because I was 18, 19 and I was going off and doing these gigs and sometimes they go well and sometimes I would crash and burn but I don't know it just didn't like I didn't I didn't feel the pressure that that's what was so amazing about that period of my life is that I just don't remember feeling any pressure and now if I tank a gig or I go out and you know mess up the Brit awards I do feel the pressure and I do feel the anxiety of it all and I and I didn't have as much professional anxiety back then because I was sort of on a relatively upward trajectory”
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“I think I've had so many bad gigs. Back in the day, it was going and doing 10 minutes in a pub. And performing to 20 people, you're set up to fail, really. Because it's never going to be a stormer because the environment is not conducive to comedy because you're in a noisy pub fighting against a fruit machine. Some of the people are on their phones. Some of the people are sort of half listening to you. There's like a tinny microphone, terrible sound system. And you're going on like 10th on the bill, and everyone's a bit drunk and you're never going to kill that gig. And then you will go out and you do 10 minutes of your material. It like barely raises a titter, and then you've got to get on a train and go back to London and be in your own thoughts for two hours. Like that's.”
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“I mean, it helped very much that I come from a background of privilege and that I was, you know, wasn't having to support a family or pay a mortgage and I could kind of. this fool's errand for a bit”
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“Yeah, I think I did feel a little bit of that. But yeah, I think I was just probably, I don't know, so ambitious that I went into those dressing rooms and even though I was kind of in awe of a lot of these people again, I was just like, well, I really want to kind of prove myself. And every time I had a bad gig, you know, I'd always, my takeaway would be, well, I need to just like get better then. And I will get better and I know I can get better. And I think I had quite a lot of resilience. I was naive, but the naivety probably helped get through some gigs that if I'd been a little bit older, I would have been like, why the hell am I doing this? And also, you know, obviously.”
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“It was so inauthentic. It wasn't who I was. But, you know, it gave me a kind of a little bit of a Guess a little bit of an armor that I was hiding behind a kind of character almost. And it gave me some confidence. And so I was in that kind of like period of my development when all of a sudden I was doing like live television for the first time. And I watched some of the footage back of me from those early days. And I want to hide behind the sofa. It's so cringe I've got this big shock of like electric hair and wearing the skinny jeans. I look like I've just fallen out of the hawly arms and I'm talking in a way that just bears no correlation to like. Who I am. It's very strange.”
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“Danny Dyer. And so for the first couple of years of my stand up career, I do that and all these other comedians afterwards, they would be like, oh yeah, well, you've got some great stage presence, but you haven't found your voice yet. And I was like, oh, well, could you tell me what my voice is? And they're like, that's not really how it works. You need to find your voice and you'll go on a journey. I was like, just cut the yoda crap. Like, just what is my voice? And I found it so frustrating, but that is a process that you have to go through as a comedian. You need to find your voice. And my problem was when I was trying to find my voice, I didn't even know who I was as a purse about then. I was 18, 19 years old. Like I am like at that age, like I don't think you've formulated who you are. And so I was in this kind of weird period of flux where I was trying all these different comic personas. I settled on this one that was like basically a kind of like a homage to Russell brand.”
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“You know, all over the shop because I hadn't found my voice yet, and I was already on TV. I got definitely got catapulted onto television far too quickly. Like I always say this, like, you look at like Mickey Flanagan or John Bishop or any of the kind of like really established comedians when they break and they become TV stars they've been doing it for 10 years and they've honed their act and they know exactly who they are and you get like the finished article when I was put on TV I was like still basically an open mic comedian almost. I mean I'd done paid gigs, but I was still like going on and talking in a mockney accent because I hadn't worked out what like like that I could be myself on stage. I was so terrified to go up onto a stand up comedy stage and talk in my voice because I was like they're all going to hate me. No one's going to want to like listen to some public schoolboy waffling on. So I'm going to have to disguise that and I'm going to go on and I'm going to talk like that.”
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“Speaking to whoever the person was at Channel 4 and saying, oh, you know, you should get to host this show is Jack. And so, yeah, I ended up doing like live TV hosting Big Brother's Big Mouth, which was the show that kind of had created Russell Brand. And I was. eighteen or nineteen nineteen I was young and very, very, very inexperienced. Like my comic persona was”
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“We're doing their double act around the time of Gavin and Stacey because he was working on a show with them. And he said, oh, there's this guy who I saw at Edinburgh. He's really funny. He's very new, very young. You're doing these warm-up shows of your sketch show. You should get him to come out and he could do some stand-up before you go on. And so I did support for them. And that's how I met James and how I met Matt who would end up being in my sitcom. And James and Matt were kind of quite instrumental in me getting my first television gig as well. So they did a Big Brother's big mouth and they were like the guest hosts on that and they were meant to do a whole series and they had to pull out because they'd seen me do stand up for them as their warmer packed James was very good at kind of”
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“It was described by one reviewer as Jack Whitehall appears on stage in the middle of the show and does an impression of what he thinks a stand up is. And that is a pretty fair assessment of what it was. But a guy called Ben Cavey, who was a producer at the time, came to that show and saw me and saw that there was, I had some promise or there was something that he recognized in me that he thought, you know, I had some potential. And so I then went and met with him when I was down in London. He worked for Tiger Aspect, who a great production company made Mr. Bean, Catherine Tate, Benedorm, all of these shows, and with him I started developing. He asked me to do tour support for Horn and Cordon when James Corden and Matt Hall.”
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“So then I went to Edinburgh with a sketch show with two of my friends from school and we did it at the Pleasants and we did a month in this tiny room that's now a disabled toilet. That's how small it was and There was like, you know, ten seats and us performing this sketch show. We had no idea what we were doing. It was all kind of cobbled together sketches that we'd copied from not the nine o'clock news and league of gentlemen and Got terrible reviews. The middle of it, I came out and did stand up and I'd never done stand up before. And I thought that stand up was just something that you could do. I'd never done a gig. I literally just walked out in the middle of this sketch show and did 10 minutes of stand up.”
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“Steel face. Yeah, yeah. No, he's had no training at all, but I guess just because he does so little and gives away so little that, I don't know, that almost feels like it's performative and maybe it is to an extent. But no, he's had absolutely no training whatsoever.”
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“As a kid, like, I always was desperate to try and make him laugh and to crack him and to if I could get him to laugh. Like, that felt like such an achievement. And even to this day, when it comes to do shows, or if I'm doing things with him, like, he's a really hard, like, tough crowd. He's got, as you've seen, like a real. I mean, resting face calling it. And yeah, if I can even get like a smile from him, it transports me back to being, you know, 12 or 13 years old and having that same thing of, I really want to make him laugh”
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“It dented my confidence, but it also made me like, I don't know, I think it gave me a kind of resolve that I would one day achieve it and I would make him proud. And, you know, because he'd been sort of dismissive of you, you don't want to become an actor and you're never going to become an actor. That made me want to do it even more and be like, oh, no, no, I really think I can do this. And then with the comedy thing, the other aspect is that he was and remains the hardest person to crack ever. Like he doesn't laugh at anything. And, you know, I do have that overriding memory that.”
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“You look like a kid that would not have a lot of confidence and then had the like, you know, the massive braces in my face for a long period of my childhood. And that made, you know, there was definitely a lack of confidence because of that. And the various knockbacks. And then realizing, oh, I quite like acting and performing. And for years, I would audition for all of these school plays and I would never get cast in anything. So that didn't help. And also, you know, I guess wanting my dad's approval, which I always did, you know, right from the get-go and definitely not receiving it.”
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“Yeah, I definitely was not very confident at that age. And I was quite odd and eccentric and in the right company and in a safe environment and around my kind of family, I think I was a little bit more confident, but at school, I certainly wasn't. I was very awkward, like very unfortunate looking child as well. I had huge buck teeth and glasses and like a cowlick and you see photographs of me from then and”
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“I'd read like the first couple of chapters and then got bored and I didn't have any knowledge of the plot of Harry Potter. And that was exposed in the audition as well. And so it was about as bad as an audition could go. And I came out and I looked at it and was like, yeah, I don't think you need to worry about. Oh gosh. About that one. And then I think the nice heartwarming end of this story, my dad having been, you know, Outrageous in his behavior and the nepotism being out of control in the open casting, they cast Emma Watson as Hermione and she did get cast from just entering through the correct channels and not calling up her dad.”
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“A lot of like excitement about this because obviously the book was so popular and I remember calling my dad and saying they're doing these open casting and I'm going to enter myself into it and he was like oh no that's a complete waste of time I was like what do you mean it's like well they never cast anyone at these open castings it'll be some casting director's assistant assistant you know it's it's a complete waste of time if you genuinely want to audition for Harry Potter I will get you in front of the casting director so he drove down to Oxford took me out of school for the day got me down to London threw some connections of his managed to get me an audition with the casting director of Harry Potter I went into the casting room and completely tanked the audition because I was not a very good actress a child as is proven by the trap record up until that point I also hadn't read the book because I've just never been a great reader and”
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“I'd had that job, and then I'd had one other job where I had no lines. I had another job that I got, and I swear this is true, but I can't remember exactly how it happened, but I got like demoted. I got cast in a part, which was like quite a good speaking role. And then like on the day, all of a sudden it was good by Mr. Chips with Martin Clunes. And all of a sudden I was like at the back of a class and had no lines. And I can't for the life of me understand how that happened. I mean, I was very young at the time. Maybe I was just so terrible. They saw me in the rehearsal and thought, nah, you're now out of shot right at the back. And then Harry Potter, yeah. So that was around the time that obviously I was doing these little acting roles and then there was this audition of Harry Potter. And they did an open casting at my school. They came with a casting director to kind of audition loads of kids and they were doing it around the country.”
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“Had a few sort of quite low level acting jobs as a child with single lines in TV shows I got dubbed in one because I couldn't deliver the line properly. I had one line which was it's not a monster, it's a rabbit and the day just developed a speech impediment not a monster the rabbit and when it actually went out they redubbed me so it was another child's voice coming out of my mouth”
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“That's crazy. Yeah. I did a bit of child acting. Again, just because I was sort of adjacent to that world and I saw, you know, my dad in that industry and my mom and my mom was still acting back then. I was so enamored of it. So as a kid, I did want to do it.”
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“I don't know, it had like an eccentric feel. It felt like a better fit for me, but it was a boarding school, and so they took me out of the school that I was struggling in and sent me to that boarding school. And I remember being, oh my God, I was so upset. I was like, no, please, I honestly tell you, I don't want to go. And he said to me at the time, he was like, look, it's fine. If you go there and you don't like it, you can come back after a term. And I promise you, if you turn around and you tell me that, then you can come out and go back to the school that you're at in London. I was like, okay, well, that's, you know, something that I can hold on to. And I remember that really helped get through the first term away. And then I asked him subsequently many years later, I was like, you know, when you said that, it really helped. She's like, I had no intention of doing that, even if you had been very upset. You were there for the year. I'd got you in. It had been very hard to get you in there and you were staying whether you liked him or not. And I don't know whether that's him sort of slightly being a nuisance, but there may have been some truth to it.”
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“I was really struggling at that school and I wasn't coming out of my shell and I hadn't found, you know, any of my kind of passions or interests and there was no one cultivating any of them. And so they looked at that and thought we need to do something and make a change. And they found this school in Oxford, which I went round and they met lots of teachers and it had a far more kind of like”
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“I call it a travel log, but some people have pointed out it is also almost like a reality television show where like the posh Kardashians. And so people have been exposed to my family and can see that, you know, we have an unusual relationship, but we are very close. But people are always surprised to hear that it was always the case even when I was away at boarding school, we still had like a really good connection. I, in fact, always say that going to boarding school was probably quite helpful to my relationship with my parents if anyone has seen my father, he's better in small doses. I think having that distance from him was probably very healthy and is why we had such a good relationship. So yeah, there's a lot of things where at the time I was, oh God, why are you doing this? And I mean, when they sent me to boarding school, I was so upset. I was like, I do not want to go. I'm happy with my friends. I want to stay in London with them at this school.”
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“No, no, no. I think they probably did probably play it right. It's the weird thing in a roundabout way. It all sort of worked out okay. And I don't begrudge them for any of those decisions. And they were, which people are always surprised to hear. Well, they're not surprised to hear it now because people have seen my relationship with my family and we have a”
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“I was so frustrated that I wasn't able to do that, that I went and I did the degree. And then I was like, well, I need to perform in some way. Oh my God, I could do stand up and they'll have no control over that. So then I started doing stand up as my side hustle. And, you know, they pushed me into comedy, which again, is like a really, really competitive industry. If they'd wanted me to become a lawyer or a banker, which they always claim that they did, they went about it completely the wrong way.”
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“That I focus on my studies and have something to fall back on if I were to not make it in the arts. I mean, it was a little ill thought through because the other passions that I had were things like art. And so I ended up going to university to study history of art, which I didn't necessarily think is, you know, of industries to fall back on, like art history is not the most transferable skill. And then also by pushing me away from, you know, going to drama school or becoming an actor, which would have been the other thing that I would have wanted to do at that age.”
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“Well, so at school, I was always talking about trying to do stuff off my own bat and do sketches and taking a show to Edinburgh was my idea and the school were very anti that at the time and the drama teacher thought it was a waste of time. My parents were very, very keen that I didn't necessarily pursue a career in the arts, I think, because my dad was an agent and he'd looked after loads of really successful actors, but he'd also looked after a load of actors that had been out of work and had really struggled. And my mom had had a career as an actor that hadn't necessarily given her the fulfillment that I think she'd wanted it to. And, you know, she'd had some sort of bit parts on television and then had to give it up. And so they were very aware that, you know, that it was a very, very competitive industry. And so they were very keen that I make sure.”
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“Or, you know, the incredible aspect of it, which is, you know, the other thing that appeals to me about comedy, which is that it's a way of doing something that isn't a real job and isn't sat in an office doing something that to me would be kind of mind-crushingly boring. It's a creative pursuit, which I think I would always have been gravitating towards.”
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“I don't know. I think it probably wasn't until the Edinburgh Festival when I went to the Edinburgh Festival in my teens and saw stand-up comics. I mean, prior to that, like most of my knowledge of comedy had been stuff that I'd seen on TV and movies and Laurel and Hardy and Norman Wisdom and that felt like, you know, hilarious but kind of very alien in a way. And then going up to Edinburgh and seeing like stand-ups performing and people that were maybe slightly closer to me in age and were talking about things that I could relate to. And all of a sudden I was like, wow, this is like genuinely a viable career path. Had I known that they were probably all up there performing for a month at Edinburgh and hemorrhaging money and not filling out the venues every night. It's like a really, really difficult career path for the vast majority of comedians. But I was kind of young and doughy-eyed and just.”
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“Someone that people enjoy the company of and the presence of because of my kind of like wit, I guess. And so, yeah, he was definitely like for me the person that influenced me the most when I was thinking, oh yeah, that's definitely something that I would be interested in pursuing”
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“They're not comedians. I mean, they're both pretty funny people and there was a lot of laughter in our household when we were growing up. And I definitely think my dad in particular was my kind of most, you know, dominant early comic influence because, again, I would watch how he used humor and how making people laugh was this way that he had to kind of unlock people and he was an amazing raconteur and told these incredible stories and I watched how people would hang on his every word and I remember being really in awe of that and thinking oh I'd love to not only amuse him when I'm able to do so but also you know emulate him and try to be you know”
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“From, you know. It can be from whatever, like if you've had a bad day at work and you come and see a stand up on stage and they make you laugh, bring you out of a dark place, or if you're, you know, on your phone and watching the news and depressed about the world and then you can go and forget about all of that. And, you know, it's a great way of, I think, you know, just going and completely relaxing and listening to someone else entertain you. I think that for me, like that's what I see my kind of duty as a comedian.”
2023-05-25 · The Diary of a CEO · Jack Whitehall's Emotional Confession About His Dad, His Biggest Fear & His New Life! · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I think in the most reductive way it's because I use humour to connect with people and have always done so, and so I think I've always enjoyed making people laugh and that's felt to me like a great way to connect with people, whether that be in real life or my audience when I'm up on stage. And I think there are lots of different reasons that people become comedians and there is this kind of the sad clown trope and that's definitely one that does exist and I think there are people that use comedy for other reasons but for me I don't think I fall into that category necessarily. I think I have always loved comedy and stand up as an art form because I just really enjoy making people happy and making people laugh and using comedy as escapers.”
2023-05-25 · The Diary of a CEO · Jack Whitehall's Emotional Confession About His Dad, His Biggest Fear & His New Life! · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I do feel the pressure and I do feel the anxiety of it all. Worrying about stuff that is not worth worrying about, a bad review, rejection, online trolls so many times I'm just like, why don't I just delete all social media from my phone? I would be such a good thing for my mental well-being. I have a little bit more sensitive and vulnerable than I tell people.”
2023-05-25 · The Diary of a CEO · Jack Whitehall's Emotional Confession About His Dad, His Biggest Fear & His New Life! · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I use humour to connect with people and have always done so. Growing up, wanting my dad's approval and definitely not receiving it. It dented my confidence, but it also made me would one day make him proud.”
2023-05-25 · The Diary of a CEO · Jack Whitehall's Emotional Confession About His Dad, His Biggest Fear & His New Life! · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“He's the most loving person ever. I want him to have a relationship with my kid. That's why I wasn't going to do this on this I'm now getting emotional.”
2023-05-25 · The Diary of a CEO · Jack Whitehall's Emotional Confession About His Dad, His Biggest Fear & His New Life! · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT