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Jackie Cochran

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“The head of the New York Adventures Club asked me to give a talk that would focus on adventure. It was almost impossible to do. Even back then, before I broke through the sound barrier, had my day in the starfighter, or saw stars at noon. I couldn't choose then and ended up talking about my childhood, about learning to fly, getting caught between the mountains and a plane, flying that bomber to Britain. I have found adventure in flying, in world travel, in business, and even close at hand. Adventure is a state of mind and spirit. It comes with faith, for with complete faith there is no fear of what faces you in life or death. I ended up living a life of continuous adventure. I think it was Peter Pan who said to die will be an awfully big adventure.”
2021-02-19 · Founders · #167 Jackie Cochran (Aviation) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“For a long time after returning from Albuquerque, that's where she was hospitalized, and they told her she couldn't fly anymore. I couldn't look up into the sky without bursting into tears. Then I began thinking, this is stupid, and that was that. In fact, I decided that if I couldn't fly in high performance jets any longer, then I'd take up soaring, flying airplanes without engines. My body could stand the pressure of an altitude up to seven thousand feet, so I applied for my permit. I could see no reason why I couldn't soar alone, particularly when I planned to fly in remote areas where I couldn't possibly hurt anyone but myself.”
2021-02-19 · Founders · #167 Jackie Cochran (Aviation) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“When you start to consider the billions upon billions of balls of fire called stars going on and on in accordance with a pattern, you've got to feel small, but not too small. For then I'd consider how smart we were, how much we knew and how the mind of man had gradually taken an ascendancy over so much. I possess a rather simple minded approach to religion. The universe is so ordered and so divinely planned that there must be something more. It's that simple. It doesn't have to be complicated. I'm satisfied that if my body goes back to nourish and create flowers, then I'm part of an infinite divine plan. It's only human to believe in an afterlife where your personality is important and you'll continue to do and love the same pleasures you pursue and love here on earth.”
2021-02-19 · Founders · #167 Jackie Cochran (Aviation) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And this is her writing. So a lot of knowledge here because now she's a much older lady. This is really on death and love. I'm going to read, this is going to be a little bit longer part. Well, now it seemed I was looking at the endgame for myself. I'd want to get a proper perspective of man's place here on Earth, I'd go out onto a ranch lawn and look at the moons, planets, and stars through our rather large sized telescope. The moon is so near that light reaches us here on Earth in less than two seconds. I used to look at it closely. Then I take a look at one of the distant stars and realize that it might have been extinct long before man here on Earth came into being. It takes the light from some of those stars millions of light years to reach us”
2021-02-19 · Founders · #167 Jackie Cochran (Aviation) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“In the Chuck Euro podcast, he helps her. He breaks the sentence. He's the first person ever to break the sound barrier. He helps her become the first woman to ever break the sound barrier. And this is what she says about that experience. Believe me, breaking the sound barrier and being the first woman to do it was the greatest thrill of my life. So she's almost 60 at this time. And she's eventually going to have heart troubles, seizures, all her body kind of falls apart a few years after this. And there's a whole paragraph talking about this record. She said, you know, speed record for here and course record for here. And I'm going to skip over that because a lot of it's just numbers and course numbers and all that, but really the punchline is she's setting new aviation records when she's almost 60 years old. And the lesson there is, you know, she found something she loved to do and tried to do it until she died. Now she's having all this health trouble. So this is really, really heavy.”
2021-02-19 · Founders · #167 Jackie Cochran (Aviation) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I've always been a very good salesman. My whole life has been built on promotion and sales, and it doesn't matter whether you're selling wash tubs or cosmetics or human ideas. If you can present it well, you can make people believe you. And I know that there's that quote that I always like to repeat over and over again because I think it's important for people to learn and to actually believe. I don't know how I think a very small percentage of the human population actually believes it to be true, but it's that quote by Mark Andreessen that the world is much more malleable than you think. The world is a very malleable place. If you know what you want, you go for it with maximum energy and drive and passion. The world will often reconfigure itself around you much more quickly. That's the actual full quote. And I feel Jackie would believe that, but that's also what she's talking about there. It's like the ability to convince others and persuade people around you to get them to believe what you want to believe is the first step in making the world malleable around you. So I talked a little bit about this.”
2021-02-19 · Founders · #167 Jackie Cochran (Aviation) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And she goes, That seems like a ridiculously high number. They wind up training, I think, about a thousand pilots, a thousand female pilots. So she talks a little bit about the challenge she had to overcome here. We needed everything, aircraft, instructors, a field, sleeping and eating facilities for the young women. And I had 25,000 applications to go through. I had three objectives. Number one, to see if women could serve as military pilots, and if so, to form the nucleus of an organization that could be rapidly expanded. Two, to release male pilots for combat. She achieves all these objectives, by the way. Three, to decrease the Air Force's total demands on the cream of the manpower pool. American industry was producing tens of thousands of airplanes in the fall of nineteen forty two. No one could tell whether we had enough young qualified men to fly them. If a woman could handle a plane, then a man could be released for active duty, so the exact same thing that was happening in Britain is what she's trying to do in America, okay?”
2021-02-19 · Founders · #167 Jackie Cochran (Aviation) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“But if you need a ferry equipment or troops or other supplies, they'd have women pilots do that. So she goes to Britain sees that, then takes that idea and starts the very same thing in the United States. This is right before, and the program is going to be, the acronym is WASP. In order to prove to U.S. and British officials, so the reason I included this because as you can imagine, she's chasing after a male-dominated profession. This is in the 1940s. She is going to encounter just another obstacle. She's going to encounter an unbelievable amount of sexism. And this is an example of that. In order to prove the U.S. and British officials that women could handle such heavy aircraft as bombers and thus play a role in wartime flying activities, Jackie Cochrane gained the support of the British Minister Supply and the American General Happ Arnold to allow her to ferry a bomber to England because of opposition by male ferry pilots. This is crazy. A compromise had to be worked out.”
2021-02-19 · Founders · #167 Jackie Cochran (Aviation) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Okay, so I want to fast forward to the beginning of where she founds the Women's Air Force service pilot program. And this came because she was given the opportunity to become the first woman to fly a bomber. So they're flying planes and other military equipment from the United States to Britain. This is during World War II when Britain's getting pounded by Germany. And so she says, that's all I needed to be off and running. Of course I'd do it. I'd jump at such a chance to be the first woman to fly a bomber to Great Britain. I was also convinced that our own women pilots might be needed should the time come when our own country needed to defend itself. I had heard that there were female pilots who were faring planes in the English countryside, and this was my chance to see at first hand, so she goes over Britain, realizes, hey, and obviously Britain's on an immense amount of strain at the time, and they need every able-bodied they can get, and so they're still not letting women in combat.”
2021-02-19 · Founders · #167 Jackie Cochran (Aviation) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Starts her cosmetic business at the very same time, and we're going to see her again. She repeats over and over again go to the top at the top. So it says by 1934, after I had my commercial pilot's license, I wanted my own beauty business so I could end up at the top. I had started at the bottom and supervising shampoos and permanents was not for me anymore. I wanted no part of other people's products. I was crazy enough to think I could do better. I first set out to develop a greaseless night cream. I was told that a greaseless lubricant was clearly impossible. I knew they were wrong and I never recognized the word impossible. My most successful cream, the product is called flowing velvet, is the result of my stubbornness. We'd put our formulas in plain bottles with type labels and then try them out. Then once I had a product, this is how she focused on distribution. Then I'd go on the road and in the air to sell. The combination of my flying career and caused”
2021-02-19 · Founders · #167 Jackie Cochran (Aviation) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“So at the time, what's even more remarkable is at the time she passes her pilot test. She can't really read and write. So she has to take the test orally. She eventually learns how to read and write, but a lot of what she was learning, so she went through very limited instruction and she just says, hey, I'm going to learn everything I can, but I'm going to learn through experience. And so she's flying into this really bad storm in Montreal. And she realizes something where she's like, okay, I'm going to kill myself. The ignorance that I have about the profession that I'm choosing can be deadly. So it says, most of us call it air. But I began to learn that there was much more there in the air than ever meets the eyes, my eyes anywhere. So she's talking about all the different inclement weather that she can experience, how to deal with turbulence, when to fly, when not to fly, all that kind of stuff. She says, it wasn't until I hit that storm on the way back from Montreal that I couldn't understand even remotely why aviation people were always talking.”
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“The next day, I arrived to the airport by 7 a.m. No one was there until 9, and I spent two glorious hours watching the sky. Now, I underline this next sentence twice. It's just the way she had her mindset for everything. She's talking about the sky. I intended to conquer it. Just 48 hours after I first climbed in the cockpit, Husky climbed out of our trainer airplane and said, okay, it's all yours. I wanted to be the world's greatest pilot, and I didn't think twice about soloing after so little time in the air. Jackie received her pilot's license in 1932 after three weeks of instruction.”
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“Why? For some unknown reason I catch the field of the plane right away. I had just scratched the surface, but I was less beautian and more flyer already. How many hours do you need to fly to get a license? I ask when we're back on the ground? You got to fly 20 hours and then pass a test. Can you imagine that now? He explains. It'll take two or three months if you're lucky. I have to do it in three weeks because I don't intend to spend my entire I don't think so, I say.”
2021-02-19 · Founders · #167 Jackie Cochran (Aviation) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“So she has a few weeks vacation from the beauty salon, and she says, okay, I'm going to learn how to fly. And they offered flying schools wasn't that expensive. She didn't have a lot of money this time. It was about $400 or something like that. So she had to scrape the money together. But this is where she, it's just, she realizes she falls in love with flying from the very beginning. So said Husky was really husky. He was huge. And he's to be my instructor. When I looked over at the airplane, it was a little machine. And then I looked back at Husky. I seriously began to question whether or not it would take the two of us up. No way, I think, but I say nothing. Without a single explanation we climb into the plane. Husky opens the throttle and off we go, and this is her immediate reaction. Why have I waited so long? I can't believe that I have put this off. My reason for living.”
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“Competes with Charles of the Rits. Charles himself is long dead, of course. So it is while she's working in New York, she travels back and forth from New York to Miami, serving different salon customers. And this is where she meets her husband. This is Floyd Oldlam. He's actually the founder of Atlas. And he, at the time they get married, I think he's like the 10th richest person in America. So says there weren't night and day differences between Floyd and me. Temperamentally, we may have been miles apart. But when it came to knowing what we wanted out of life, security, power, and a certain kind of fame, we were very much alike and work, hard work was always a tie that bound us together. When it came to schemes and dreams, Floyd has had as many as I did.”
2021-02-19 · Founders · #167 Jackie Cochran (Aviation) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Egos out to prove who is bigger and better. In fact, I told Charles of the Rits that not only was I good, I was probably better than he was. Remember, this is an unusual way that she tries to get a job. That amused him for a minute, but he was not so amused when I wanted 50% commission on every customer I had in his salon. I was sure my outrageous demand would end the interview right there when he said, you'll have to cut your hair. Wait a minute. I wouldn't cut my hair for you even if you promised to turn the whole business over to me, I answer. So then she leaves. The next morning he called me at my rooming house, changed his mind, he said. I wouldn't have to cut my hair, and I could have fifty percent commission, anything I wanted. I want the job or didn't I? I didn't. I was so stubborn, and I still am. It makes me smile now to think that the cosmetics company that I would found several years later, Jacqueline Cocker and Cosmetics.”
2021-02-19 · Founders · #167 Jackie Cochran (Aviation) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Okay, so we're still in her early life. This is where she's going to leave Alabama. She continues to work in the hairdressing field. She winds up saving as much money as possible, doing small investments in other salons, and then eventually decides, hey, I've made as much money as I can in the south. I'm going to the New York City. I'm going to where all the action is because I want to chase wealth and afford me the opportunities where I'm currently at in Alabama is not. And if you look at the notes, the vast majority of the notes and highlights I have from this book are actually in her early life because I found it such a, it's a very inspiring story because you just realize how much she had to overcome in all the just the terrible circumstances of her early life. It reminds me all the way back on founders number 117. I did the biography of the autobiography of Chung Juyung, which was actually the”
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“It took away my fear, it pushed me harder than I might have ever pushed myself otherwise. The poverty provided with me with a kind of cocky confidence and made me relatively happy with what I had at any given moment. So not only is that a really good thought. Like I could never have so little that I haven't had less, but we also see that she also has self-awareness. A lot of her friends, enemies, associates, the wide range of people that knew Jackie when she was live described her as, you know, she had a giant ego. She says she has a giant ego. She says I'm cocky. She says it's an asset. The fact is I had undeniable self-belief in myself is that the reason I was able to accomplish so much is because of the fact that I had such self-belief, even if other, and she was comfortable, if other people were going to criticize that, say, oh, you're cocky, you shouldn't give yourself compliments. She says, I disagree. It was actually an asset for me. It was an actual tool, which is very counterintuitive, I think, for most people to understand.”
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“Because of where I came from and then where I went, I ended up understanding intimately one very sustaining line of life, and for this next sentence she actually italicizes the entire sentence. She just is not very common in this book. So it's her telling us explicitly, hey, this is a really important thought for you to remember. So let me read that section to you again. Because of where I came from and where I went, I ended up understanding intimately one very sustaining line of life. And this is the part. I could never have so little that I hadn't had less”
2021-02-19 · Founders · #167 Jackie Cochran (Aviation) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Was such an asset. I made sure I understood what it took to keep the car running smoothly. I personally ground the valves on that engine, and the engine paid me back for my labours. And that's another thing, another lesson takeaway from Jackie. She's going to learn everything that she possibly can about the thing that is important to her, the thing that's right in front of her. Do you remember in that Chuck Erie podcast where he's the same way? That's why Jackie and Chuck said that they were essentially the same person, where he's learning everything he can about planes because he realized, one, he's really into it, but two, it could also save his life or help him later on. And he winds up testing a new airplane and then riding a bunch, like a manual for the plane, giving it over to another pilot. The pilot was dismissive. He's like, oh, I don't need your notes. You know, I can just, I'll figure it out for myself. I think he even maybe would have read the actual manual that came from the manufacturer, but not Chuck's notes. And he winds up having an accident. Thankfully, it wasn't fatal, but he winds up like running the plane into the hangar. And Chuck just had a lack of respect for people that would not take the necessary time to actually learn as much as they could. I think Jackie would echo those same.”
2021-02-19 · Founders · #167 Jackie Cochran (Aviation) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“So, the chance there is her walking away from a job that she already has. She's going to have to move to a place she's never been before. She's like, okay, I will go and operate that machine, and I'll go move and see if it sounds like a better opportunity for me there. So let me go ahead and pursue that. And this is where we see her personality. She's obsessed with being self-sufficient. Because remember, her goal is independence. She does not want other people to have control over her time. She wants to have money not to buy a bunch of stuff, but to make sure that she can live the life that she wants to live. And the vast majority of her life is just having these experiences through aviation. We're not there yet. She says I was probably 15 or 16 when I walked every street in Montgomery, Alabama until I found the nicest neighborhood in the city. Then I knocked on the door at 12 South An Street and asked the startled woman if I could rent room and board. At first, she was horrified, but I was determined. I had never lived in a house as elegant as her house, and I pleaded my case to the limit of my persuasive power. So again”
2021-02-19 · Founders · #167 Jackie Cochran (Aviation) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“alone her. There I am, the person he needs to make that sale in Montgomery, a permanent wave expert at maybe, she put in parentheses fifteen, to get the best performance, to do better than anyone has ever done before, you've got to take chances.”
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“Waver to my response. I'm going to be rich, I'd say, knowing that even then knowing even then that they thought I was silly or crazy. I'll wear fine clothes, own my own automobile, and have adventures all over the world. They would laugh. I was certain that's where I was going. I felt no embarrassment about my big dreams, no dreams, no future. They could laugh, but most of my mill friends wanted as little from life as they were destined to get. Hell of a sentence. Let me read that again. They could laugh, but most of my male friends wanted as little from life as they were destined to get.”
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“So a few years later she's working in a cotton mill in Georgia and this is where she's realizing from a very early age we see her drive and determination to be wealthy. She realizes that money is going to equal independence and independence is what she greatly desires. So says at the time she's working 12 hours a day for six cents an hour. Okay, and this is how she's able to buy her first pair of shoes. I love my job in the cotton mill in Columbus, Georgia. It made me happy. I was pushing a cart up and down the aisles delivering spools of bobbins to the weavers. An expert could handle six looms. I wasn't an expert, but I decided I would be one day. The working conditions were despicable. The pay was delightful. That's why I was happy. Money. The money made me happy because of the freedom I knew it could buy. So she's having conversations with her coworkers and they say, what are you going to do when you grow up, Jackie? They'd ask me. I never.”
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“I learned how to take care of myself to stay clean and neat in spite of the sneering I always received from my sisters. I learned love from Miss Boswick when she touched me, but I learned how to turn my back to what others thought, to turn my back on them if that's what had to be done. That's something she does her whole life. My first hair ribbon, that comb and brush set, those hours of reading together in the afternoons, the prunes just having food is what she's talking about. I want to desperately to thank her many years for showing me that the rest of the world was out there for me. I went to Cincinnati to find her. This is now later in her life and called every Boswick in the telephone directory with no luck. I wanted to see her lovely face again and put my arms around her in the same way she had hugged me. These are thoughts she's having as an adult now, but she was never to be found. When she stopped teaching after that second year of my schooling, my formal education stopped too.”
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“Talks about it 50 years after it happened, and that the lesson from his grandfather it's harder to be kind than it is to be clever. And so this is really the kindness and the caring of a teacher that she never felt her entire life from any kind of family members. I guess she didn't really have a family to speak of. So it says, I'll never fully understand why Miss Boswick came south that next year and took me in her arms. All I know is that she became the greatest positive influence on my early life. From her I learned how to take care of myself, to stay clean and neat in spite of the sneering I was received from my sisters. I learned love from Miss Boswick. Think about that. She is eight, ten, twelve years old, maybe. Now, how old are you? I think this is second or third grade, so she's around eight years old, right? Or at least she thinks she's eight years old. And never to know love for the first eight or ten years of your life, that's, I mean, that's got to be devastating, right?”
2021-02-19 · Founders · #167 Jackie Cochran (Aviation) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And not only is your foster mom, you know, she's got a bunch of foster kids. You know no one actually loves you. And yet you see your only hope in life is to leave and to run away with it traveling circus. And then not only is that how desperate you have to be, but listen to how excited she is about that opportunity. She says, have you ever felt that giddiness that comes when you are on the verge of something good or even great? And what is she talking about? She's saying, I was going away.”
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“Traveling circus. They're about to leave town. Jackie decides, hey, I'm going to try to go with them through her life was never easy. Mama always seemed to be able to make it worse for herself and everyone around her. She'd take out a lot of refustrations on me. I probably made her angry because she couldn't seem to touch me with her foul moods. And when she tried to whip me for bad conduct, I once found a chunk of firewood. That day I raised my hand holding the stick to hit back. She took several steps away from my life forever. But the day the circus came to town, the steps I needed to take to grow away from her became more tangible to me than ever before. I honestly saw that motley carnival crew as my future. I said to myself. So just try to place yourself in her shoes. You know, you're a young person, eight, maybe 10 years old.”
2021-02-19 · Founders · #167 Jackie Cochran (Aviation) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“There's just these different levels of self confidence. Tom Ford, Kanye West, Jackie Cochrane, Steve Jobs, there's a number of people that I've covered and studied on the podcast. They have the same thing. There's nothing that you're going to be able to do that is going to dimmer their confidence and their belief in themselves. So now let's go back to where she's still a young girl. She's trying to run away to the circus. So this is very interesting. She says, I tried running away with gypsies, staying out in the woods all night with a neighbor boy and his older sister. No one looked for us, so that's another statement. That's only a few words, but I don't want to just jump over it. She was essentially left to her own devices. She could leave in the middle of the night. She's around eight years old, maybe 10 years old this time. She could disappear for days. Her foster family, to give you an idea of the lack of love that she had to endure, didn't even bother looking for her. She says, and no one looked for us. And once I decided to hitch my wagon to the stars in a local circus, you have this.”
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“Damn moho lamp, not me. We see two things in that last sentence both her ego and her drive. The fact is, you're okay sitting here living in poverty. I'm going to do whatever I have to do to get out of this. And then once I get out of this, I'm not going to stop there. Any other goal that I have? I'm going to focus on it. I'm going to maintain, never take my eyes off that goal, and I'm going to not going to stop until I achieve it. So we see her ego and her drive. And this is a little bit more about her ego. Another way to think about this is the power of believing in yourself. And she's talking about entering race. And she's fast forwarding her life again. Entering a race where there wasn't any women racing at the time. And she says, I can fly as well as any men entered in that race. I didn't see it as being boastful so much as speaking the truth. I learned through hard work and hard living that if I didn't speak the truth about myself, no one else would fill in the missing pieces. I never let my insecurity stop me, so there's a lot of people, this book is very similar to the eager book where they have...”
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“And in this next part, what she does, this is not really a chronological book. She'll talk about things going on at a certain point in her life, and then she'll flash back to her childhood and move back and forth. And in this, she's comparing and contrasting the living conditions that she had to endure as a very poor young girl compared to being very wealthy when she was older. And she says, have you ever seen a moho lamp? It's made by shoving a hollow corn stalk into a bottle with a little oil on the bottom. A piece of cloth, hopefully wool if you got it, is inserted through the stalk to act as a wick. Well, we got ourselves a moho lamp she's talking about the source of lighting in her house, right? In my ranch house living room in California, I had the biggest lamp you could ever imagine. They were beautiful. Whenever I turned on a light, I'd think of how my foster family had been able to sit back and sit around the god.”
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“Set. I realized that might sound strange, but what could the knowledge have added to my life then? More important, what could have taken away from me? So again, these things are outside of my control. I didn't choose to be abandoned. I didn't choose to be given up for adoption. I didn't choose not to be adopted by my foster family. But there's nothing I could do about it now. So just knowing this information is not going to help me. So let me just keep moving forward and actually worry about things that I can control. It's actually a lot of wisdom for such a young kid, right?”
2021-02-19 · Founders · #167 Jackie Cochran (Aviation) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“That I'm not going to let things outside of my control define me. So let's go to a young Jackie Cochrane's inner monologue. As a young girl, I used to ask myself, am I illegitimate? Who were my real parents? Why would a mother give away her child? But having gone through my childhood, never knowing exactly what happened or why I was never adopted by anyone, not even my foster family. The letters didn't hold much sway over me, so there was some research done. There's going to be these letters that are sealed. She keeps her entire life. Eventually Chuck decides to burn them because Jackie just does not want to know what's inside them. It was information on her real family origins. Okay, so that's the letters that she's referring to there. So let me read that section again. While I was never officially adopted by anyone, not even my foster family. The letters didn't hold much sway over me. I didn't care what they did.”
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“In Florida, sometimes she's in Alabama, other different states, Georgia. They just go wherever the work is. There's somebody on the train selling candy, and this is how she reacts to someone on the train selling candy. I want one more than anything before in my whole life. I know I can't have it and I don't cry. I lose myself in the fantasy of all the things I'll buy when I can buy whatever I want. And then she reiterates the fact that hunger was a constant companion during her childhood. Hunger was a permanent way of feeling when I was growing up, common to all. And in this next part, we see her inner monologue as a young child, and she actually comes to the conclusion that's rather wise. And she's like, listen, she's talking about the fact that, you know, who are my parents? Why was I abandoned? Her foster parents never adopt her. She winds up running away. She picks her own name. Cochrane is not her last name, her last name. She never knew what her actual last name was.”
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“We lived in a house which didn't have any windows, if fending for yourself carries its satisfaction, I had my share of satisfactions in my childhood. We were always hungry. Mama was always tired, upset, angry with the world, and especially us, so that's her foster mom. She never knows who her real parents are. My sisters were of no comfort to me. Nasty conversations and miserable tales fill my mind when I try to bring back those years. So her entire family works in mills, they're doing backbreaking hard, dirty labor from sunrise to sunset, even the kids. That's why when Chuck was saying that, you know, she didn't have much of a form of education. I think she's a second or third grade dropout. So she had to work from the time she was a very young child. At this point in the story, to give you an idea of just how poor but smart and determined she is, they're taking a train to another town in the south. Sometimes she's”
2021-02-19 · Founders · #167 Jackie Cochran (Aviation) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“They laughed at me, but I kept right on. I wanted to be clean. They said I was putting on airs, but I like being different from them, stronger in fact, and I used my strength to get what I wanted. Food at best consisted of the barest essentials. Sometimes nothing except what I forge for myself in the woods. My dresses were made from flower sacks.”
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“She was a very smart gal with a lot of horse scents, so I had to look up that term. I've never come across it. It's another word for common sense. Her formal education may not have been much, yeah, that's an understatement, but she sure had a tremendous amount of horse sense. Okay, so let's go back to, let's rewind in the story, and this is Jackie telling us about her early life. And she says, until I was eight years old, I had no shoes. My bed was usually a pallet on the floor and sometimes just a floor. I'd always choose the floor over the option of sleeping with my foster sister Myrtle, because Myrtle was a dirty, sloppy sort, and I had a cleanliness fetish for as long as I can remember. I can still recall my sisters making fun of me because I would carry buckets of cold water from a pump to give myself a good icy scrubbing in the wash tub on the floor of our house. Remember there's no lighting, there's no plumbing.”
2021-02-19 · Founders · #167 Jackie Cochran (Aviation) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source