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  1. Honestly, just work harder than the 800 pound gorilla. People underestimate this like the 800 pound gorilla. No one in the 800-pound gorilla is extremely excited to be there. I think that's just like if you're competing against Google, like the PM in Google that you're competing against, he does not give a shit if it goes well or not. Maybe she tries really hard. But if you're a small lean team, you work really hard. You can do a really remarkable things.

    2026-06-06 · The Twenty Minute VC · 20Product: Inside Legora's Tech Stack: Why Token Maxing is Failing Enterprise Startups with Jacob Lauritzen, CTO @ Legora · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  2. If I had to get crazy, I think there's lots of analogies to coding in law. It's very text based. Sort of the agent AI features are similar. If I believe that coding, we're going to look less at source code and more of like one layer above. I have to say the same thing about law. Like eventually lawyers will not be nitty gritty about the language of the contract. They will work a level above, which is maybe like what's our negotiation stance or like what risks are we okay? Which ones are we not okay taking and not sit and type into Word?

    2026-06-06 · The Twenty Minute VC · 20Product: Inside Legora's Tech Stack: Why Token Maxing is Failing Enterprise Startups with Jacob Lauritzen, CTO @ Legora · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  3. That I can't tell you But I wouldn't want, you know, the team that I would want as a sponsor, my local FC Copenhagen football club. That would be a childhood dream. They're doing really bad right now, though. It's probably really cheap, actually.

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  4. The thing that's going to kill us is if we don't keep reinventing ourselves. This sounds really boring, but I think we talk a lot about staying in our swim lane, focusing on our product and our users. And the entire environment is moving so much. If you had me on this podcast a year ago, it would have been very different. So I think the main thing that's going to kill us if we don't lose the ability to constantly react and readjust and reinvent ourselves.

    2026-06-06 · The Twenty Minute VC · 20Product: Inside Legora's Tech Stack: Why Token Maxing is Failing Enterprise Startups with Jacob Lauritzen, CTO @ Legora · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  5. Whisper flow is great. I think we're going to get more local models, though. Whisper flow is not local. So you're probably going to get a similar whisper flow. Well, maybe they should just go local. But the tool itself is great.

    2026-06-06 · The Twenty Minute VC · 20Product: Inside Legora's Tech Stack: Why Token Maxing is Failing Enterprise Startups with Jacob Lauritzen, CTO @ Legora · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  6. Well, for you guys, do you think we're off? No, no, crazy well. It's wild. People see it everywhere, which is great. People talk about it a lot.

    2026-06-06 · The Twenty Minute VC · 20Product: Inside Legora's Tech Stack: Why Token Maxing is Failing Enterprise Startups with Jacob Lauritzen, CTO @ Legora · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  7. Worked for us. His time max is an amazing salesman, as you probably know. And so I think Max spends his time on that and he spends his time on product vision and the important product things. So big launches, big things here. He's involved early and for the duration of the project, but for small things, that's like the reason you hire great people is that you can let them do this.

    2026-06-06 · The Twenty Minute VC · 20Product: Inside Legora's Tech Stack: Why Token Maxing is Failing Enterprise Startups with Jacob Lauritzen, CTO @ Legora · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  8. Well, you can build a company of super senior engineers that can do everything, and you probably don't need to manage them at all, especially if there was like really strong, if they know what they're trying to achieve, could the Codex team, for example, like they all know what they're billing, they can just run at it and they don't need anyone to tell them that they're doing well. But if you have a more complex product that can go in many directions and you have to do constant prioritization and you have a suite of engineers and a team of engineers, so the way that we have engineering teams is relatively small teams, let's say six people, PM and an engineering manager. The engineering manager is super technical, spends most of their time coding. They're not like people hold each other's hands and like sing songs, but it's still important that I have someone that's accountable to the team health. Are people doing good jobs? Are people having fun? I can't walk around and judge everyone. Are they doing well? And so I think it's important.

    2026-06-06 · The Twenty Minute VC · 20Product: Inside Legora's Tech Stack: Why Token Maxing is Failing Enterprise Startups with Jacob Lauritzen, CTO @ Legora · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  9. Engineering directors. Maybe that's always been difficult. We only have really technical people also being managers. And so anyone who's seen scale typically also is not no longer technical.

    2026-06-06 · The Twenty Minute VC · 20Product: Inside Legora's Tech Stack: Why Token Maxing is Failing Enterprise Startups with Jacob Lauritzen, CTO @ Legora · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  10. When this goes wrong, it's actually because of my little bit introspective here. It's probably because of my own, I don't have, you know, I've not run an engineering team this big before. And so I start doubting. I'm not confident enough in saying this person who's more senior than me has seen more than me is wrong. It's happened once or twice when there's a very, very senior person. We talk and they talk about all this sort of awk building and orc design and like how they think about all this stuff. And I sense that something's wrong. And I kind of know that all the time, but in the end, I end up convincing myself that no, they probably know more than me, or like they figured it out or whatever two weeks in, four weeks in, six weeks in, you start to figure out they didn't.

    2026-06-06 · The Twenty Minute VC · 20Product: Inside Legora's Tech Stack: Why Token Maxing is Failing Enterprise Startups with Jacob Lauritzen, CTO @ Legora · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  11. It's surprisingly easy if you hire people with low ego. If you get five great engineers that don't care about their titles or where they sit in the org chart that just want to solve problems, it's surprisingly easy to integrate.

    2026-06-06 · The Twenty Minute VC · 20Product: Inside Legora's Tech Stack: Why Token Maxing is Failing Enterprise Startups with Jacob Lauritzen, CTO @ Legora · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  12. It can be both. If they've worked on adjacent things or thinks in a similar field or even unrelated but similar technology, we'll take all their learnings and we might rebuild it into Legora. I think that's what happens in most cases. But they become fully embedded into the team. They're all Legorians working on their Legoro code base, and then they might bring some learnings.

    2026-06-06 · The Twenty Minute VC · 20Product: Inside Legora's Tech Stack: Why Token Maxing is Failing Enterprise Startups with Jacob Lauritzen, CTO @ Legora · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  13. I don't think so, but it's faster. Because if you find a really good person, a really good founder, they're able to attract really good talent. And so you have a small group of five people that are just a talent. And then you get five in one week. If you have to get two every week. And that's much faster than going to all the big companies or even the startups and trying to convince them to come over. People also, like if you have a small startup of five A people, they want to work with each other.

    2026-06-06 · The Twenty Minute VC · 20Product: Inside Legora's Tech Stack: Why Token Maxing is Failing Enterprise Startups with Jacob Lauritzen, CTO @ Legora · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  14. If it's linear, I think so. I'd rather miss my number and have eight players than hit it with B players. As soon as you have people that you don't trust or that the team doesn't trust, the A players won't stick around.

    2026-06-06 · The Twenty Minute VC · 20Product: Inside Legora's Tech Stack: Why Token Maxing is Failing Enterprise Startups with Jacob Lauritzen, CTO @ Legora · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  15. Well, we're very opinionated about who we are and who we aren't. If you're a great engineer and you want to be remote, then you probably also want to work on very isolated problems. That can be fine. We probably have those and we probably will have those, but they're not for us right now. We'd rather find the people that want to solve the same problems with other people

    2026-06-06 · The Twenty Minute VC · 20Product: Inside Legora's Tech Stack: Why Token Maxing is Failing Enterprise Startups with Jacob Lauritzen, CTO @ Legora · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  16. Clarity. Yeah, this doc is not well written enough. You have to do another meeting, and then you have to do three reviews of the document, and then someone else has an opinion that sees it somewhere and writes a comment somewhere. And then you have to talk about that.

    2026-06-06 · The Twenty Minute VC · 20Product: Inside Legora's Tech Stack: Why Token Maxing is Failing Enterprise Startups with Jacob Lauritzen, CTO @ Legora · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  17. It's been very important for running really fast. I mean, this is, we talked about the handover cost If you have a PM and a designer and an engineer and they just sit together, you can almost not even have the handover. You can just be like, run at this problem and do it together, the three of you, then it's done. But if you have them siloed and there's handover in between, you lose so much efficiency.

    2026-06-06 · The Twenty Minute VC · 20Product: Inside Legora's Tech Stack: Why Token Maxing is Failing Enterprise Startups with Jacob Lauritzen, CTO @ Legora · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  18. I think that's right. Absolutely right. Most of the people that we hire, we don't even talk about the title. We talk about the difficult problems that they're going to work on.

    2026-06-06 · The Twenty Minute VC · 20Product: Inside Legora's Tech Stack: Why Token Maxing is Failing Enterprise Startups with Jacob Lauritzen, CTO @ Legora · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  19. Have in my mind like am I the CTO It's a very fair question. No, I don't buy that. I think to me, it's a question of how quickly can I solve problems. Am I the person that can solve the problems that we have right now the fastest or can someone else solve them faster than me? We have a great culture in Ligora in that no one has any ego. I've told this to, I currently have two engineering directors. I've told both of them when I hired if there comes a day when I think you'll do better than I will, then we swap or I do something else. I have very little and they also have very little tied into their title or their role. We are here to build something huge and that's the most important thing. I continuously evaluate myself on my job performance. If I don't do well, I try to rectify that really, really quickly. And I haven't been able to not rectify it yet, but maybe there comes a day.

    2026-06-06 · The Twenty Minute VC · 20Product: Inside Legora's Tech Stack: Why Token Maxing is Failing Enterprise Startups with Jacob Lauritzen, CTO @ Legora · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  20. Honestly, wish I'd known how quickly we were going to scale because that was the thing that I underestimated all the time. I don't think I was ready for this journey. I became ready really quickly because I slapped in the face every three months.

    2026-06-06 · The Twenty Minute VC · 20Product: Inside Legora's Tech Stack: Why Token Maxing is Failing Enterprise Startups with Jacob Lauritzen, CTO @ Legora · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  21. Engineers for sure. Because the models change all the time, they get better all the time. But if you have a really good engineers, you can build a system that exponentially improves. And that's worth a lot more.

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  22. We have to think about the experience if 10 people do that crazy thing at the same time and we still have a bunch of other users that we want to have a good experience. So we need to think about fair queuing basically, which is like, okay, if you're running a hundred thousand cells, you're probably okay waiting a bit. You can go grab a coffee and that's fine. But if you run 10 cells at the same time, those should be really fast.

    2026-06-06 · The Twenty Minute VC · 20Product: Inside Legora's Tech Stack: Why Token Maxing is Failing Enterprise Startups with Jacob Lauritzen, CTO @ Legora · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  23. No, that's not naive at all. It doesn't always have to change, but there are certain limits that you often will put in place. Just be like, yeah, this probably is good enough for the next three months. Like, yeah, okay, if we have these, if we bound the problem in this way, which is maybe 10x, then we can do XYZ. But maybe that doesn't hold if you're 100x. And so sometimes you need to think about, I think particular problems where there's burstiness to it. So a tabular review is one of our products where you can bulk extract from many documents and many, many cells. And there's a very big difference between 10,000 cells and 100,000 cells, just like on the load of the system, because it spikes immediately. And so that's one of the systems where there's actually a difference.

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  24. Not investing in developer experience fast enough, definitely a problem. Underestimating our growth also a problem. Now I make sure everything we will scale to 100 X the usage. I used to say 10x, but then that was not enough. So now everything needs to scale to 100x.

    2026-06-06 · The Twenty Minute VC · 20Product: Inside Legora's Tech Stack: Why Token Maxing is Failing Enterprise Startups with Jacob Lauritzen, CTO @ Legora · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  25. I don't want to say infinite, but for me it's a question of opportunity cost. We're in a competitive environment. Yeah, I didn't know that there's like fascinating, I know there's so much, so many things that we can do. The cost of not doing it is extremely high and it almost outweighs any sort of token cost. Like any efficiency gain is worth so much to us. That's for us, but for certain companies that will look different, right? The budget on tokens is mostly a question of opportunity cost. Is it worth us spending a ton of tokens to learn if it maybe gives us 20% efficiency? For us, yes, we have a really high opportunity cost.

    2026-06-06 · The Twenty Minute VC · 20Product: Inside Legora's Tech Stack: Why Token Maxing is Failing Enterprise Startups with Jacob Lauritzen, CTO @ Legora · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  26. I think the current shape of an ID will die, yes. I don't know what the new, the next ID is, but it's not reading lines of code. Maybe it's graphical, honestly. Like maybe it's the systems, the architecture that you look at and you review and you plan it there and then like agents run off and make sure that whatever you're planning actually is what's being made. I don't think it's lines of code.

    2026-06-06 · The Twenty Minute VC · 20Product: Inside Legora's Tech Stack: Why Token Maxing is Failing Enterprise Startups with Jacob Lauritzen, CTO @ Legora · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  27. I was a bit surprised and a bit sad to see the acquisition. Because I thought that they could, if they stayed independent, they had a really cool story. But I mean, I see the synergies. Obviously, they don't have enough compute. They can't train their own models. They probably have to train their own models. I just think it's a shame that the industry is vertically integrated in that way.

    2026-06-06 · The Twenty Minute VC · 20Product: Inside Legora's Tech Stack: Why Token Maxing is Failing Enterprise Startups with Jacob Lauritzen, CTO @ Legora · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  28. A few different things on that. I think one, having a leaderboard, a lot of people say this get a leaderboard, bring up token usage at performance reviews, and that leads to token maxing, which is people just burn tokens just to look good. That's a really stupid way to do anything. Do hack days, do demos, have people show everyone else how efficient they are and like how much better they're doing, reward them for being effective and efficient and having more output, not for necessarily using AI, but like AI will be the way there. That's one of the points. I had another point for enterprises. This is actually where I think cursor has a reason to live, a reason to exist, which is if your options are codecs and cloud code and a neutral third party and you obey, you know, you pay consumption-based cursor can help you optimize your token spend a lot. Because they can optimize your usage, right? They can route them to the cheap open source model or help you set limits for where.

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  29. Yeah, exactly. So that's been a little bit difficult for us, right? But I think it's part of just creating the ecosystem. In 10 years, the next startup that comes out of Stockholm hopefully won't have this problem.

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  30. It's actually something that we had to sort of educate people on in Sweden and in Europe. I think people are just not used to the venture thing. They don't know how to value equity the same way. You have to really, this is how it works. This is what it means. If this happens, then you get this much money.

    2026-06-06 · The Twenty Minute VC · 20Product: Inside Legora's Tech Stack: Why Token Maxing is Failing Enterprise Startups with Jacob Lauritzen, CTO @ Legora · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  31. There's a few different ways. In the US, people are less risk averse. So, they'll be ready to jump on a lot of things to test. I think in Europe, people are more risk-averse. People in Europe generally are more, I don't want to call them mission-driven or loyal, but they're like, they really buy into the company that they work for and work with. So it takes a lot of time to convince them. But once they're convinced, they really stay. That's great.

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  32. We have three people now, which is too few. I should have done it when Opus 4.5 came out, I think, because that's when I should have done before that. But then, you know, the productivity of each engineer 10x, I say. And so if you can make everyone 20% more efficient, it's even more gains.

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  33. So they make sure that our local development setup works really, really well. It's super fast, it spins up really quickly. We have our own background coding agent that they built that allows each engineer to have like 10 different agents running concurrently with all of our local development, a browse or all the iteration stuff. They're building custom review agents. They're building features so that it can wait and see and wait until everything looks green and all the reviews are good and then raise it to a human. The efficiency gains there are huge. And they will then also build tooling that helps onboard people. And so it can just be like, make sure you have really good readme files in your repository so that a new engineer will just ask their cloud code or their cursor about all their questions. Like that's remarkably effective. So it's just like even just AI tooling makes it faster to ramp.

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  34. I can tell you what we probably should do because the reality is things move really fast. You need to have, so we have a developer experience team, relatively new. Again, a mistake I made. I should have staffed that earlier. And they are making everyone's life so good.

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  35. Been more aggressive with hiring. I have not been aggressive enough with hiring because I've always tried to have a very, very small, very lean team, which I believed a lot in. I consistently underestimated how many people need to be. I had this slide that I drew up a year and a half ago that I showed the entire company and it was, you know, the 300 Spartans versus the Persians. And it was like Legora and the 300 Spotans. And I said, I'm pretty sure I said we will cap out at 20 engineers or something like that, which is like way undershooting it.

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  36. We currently do, yeah. But I think that's just an education thing. In five years, maybe we don't at all. That's the price you pay from being on the forefront. You have to educate and you have to help. And that's why people want to work with us also.

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  37. I think the internal AI system's role thingy for enterprises, I think IT can have like a flowering moment here and go from being internal IT that's like setting up your computers and whatever to maybe have a sister team that's building tons of internal tools that just make your life so much easier. If enterprises don't create that role, I will get really annoyed because there's so much efficiency to gain there.

    2026-06-06 · The Twenty Minute VC · 20Product: Inside Legora's Tech Stack: Why Token Maxing is Failing Enterprise Startups with Jacob Lauritzen, CTO @ Legora · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  38. That's a great question. One thing is just like the current architecture how long does that plateau, do we need something new? I mean, there's one model released two days ago that subquadratic, which is huge context length. That's super exciting. I don't know if I trust the benchmark yet. We need to validate that, but there's architecturally innovations going on still. And I don't know, maybe the current LLM architecture is not the ones to take us all the way.

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  39. Kind of thinking about it. I really hope to see European and American open source models. They've been lacking, and I think it would be really, really good to have some. Game theoretically, we won't end up in a great place if there's a duopoly or a monopoly on the models for obvious reasons. You know, you do want to have some competition. Does them have any...

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  40. I think open source is having a great moment. It really, really is. There's so many great open source models now, and they're really easy to run. There's great inference providers that let you run really efficiently. We are moving very close to being able to do things on device. I mean transcription can run on device, can run on my iPhone. I have local transcription on my Mac. When I do flights and there's no Wi-Fi, I have local models running so I can keep coding. But it's just like a Gwen model that runs and helps me code. So I think open source is going to play a huge role. I hope it continues to evolve the way that it currently is. And I think it's an important thing that we have open source model for sovereignty reasons and for security reasons. We should have great open source models.

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  41. Yes, y I have to choose. Almost always performance. Performance is more important. Almost always. If you're a lawyer, you can wait two seconds more for the output if it's better. You can probably wait an hour more for the output if it's better.

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  42. Not 15, but yeah, maybe 10. Yeah. Yeah. So for each task, we will evaluate what model is best at this latency, performance, not so much cost. Eventually, it will be cost, but latency and performance is most important. You know, performance needs to be here. How much can we increase latency without dropping in performance? By building our agent and our other AI features in a way that you can decompose the problem, you can use really efficient models.

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  43. It changes a lot. I mean, the best model changes by weekly. We've been between OpenAI and Anthropic. We keep evaluating all the different models

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  44. Much less than most people think. The value of Legora is, there's so much more around it, whether it's like the primitives that make sense for legal that make it more efficient to work with AI, or it's all the enterprisey features, or it's the optimal rounding between models. We wouldn't exist without the models. And every time the models become better, our product becomes better, our agent becomes better. But let's say you took away a model from Legore, people would still pick Ligor. So they don't buy it based on the model.

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  45. Someone on social And amplify. Similar thing. I think actually the most important thing is you need to learn how to learn. You need to figure out how you constantly reinvent yourself and keep learning and improve because the things change all the time right now. It's every week there's something new you should be doing or you need to change your way you're working or whatever. The most important thing that you can do for yourself is figure out how you keep at the forefront of what's happening all the time. And if you can do that, if you're adaptable enough and you are ambitious enough, then the rest kind of works out. Because if you can just learn faster than everyone else, then over time you win.

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  46. Yes, and no. I think there are certain people that a lot of people are saying that product and engineering are converging. It's becoming one thing. It's like one person can do the product work and build the engineer, like build the system and ship it and everything. And I think for some companies that's true. I think for companies where you really need PMs, it's not true or it can be true, but it's inefficient. And I'll tell you why. So we were talking about product, you know, you do the product work first, the scoping, then you built it, and then you ship it and you review it. And a company like Legora, we're always focused on the bottleneck, and the bottlenecks no longer.

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  47. It's really depends on the system. Let's say there's two axes to systems. There's the horizontal one, which is like, how big is your product surface area? And there's the vertical one. Like how complex is it? So if you're deep, you're essentially your surface area. It looks quite similar. It's a simple app, but it does a lot of complex stuff. It hides away a lot of complexity to the user. And there's the other one, which is your very, very shallow app, which is like tons of things you can do, but there's not that much complexity. If it's a shallow app and it requires a lot of customization from you, maybe you just build it. That's probably actually the right thing to do. If it's a very deep one, there's just too much stuff for you to build and it's not viable for you to do.

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  48. We've added a bunch of things that are additional or additions to vibe coding. So great, really stupid example is Ryan, who joined from Canada. We have a team of people joining from Canada. They're all moving to Sweden. And he vibe coded an app to help everyone migrate. So very specifically, if you're Canadian, these are like all the laws and all the steps you take. And there's like, it's interactive. And you can see how far you've made it. And it's awesome. And it took, I don't know, a data vibe code and it saves so much time for an entire team. So it's like you can build the big systems, but even just all the small ones that you can build really add up.

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  49. Slaughter No, but it's way broader than that. It's like we have a team now that's internally air enablement, which is just like reimagining, you know, again, from first principles with all the stuff that we have today, if you're building the most efficient company to go from, let's say, 200 to 1,000 employees, what does that look like? And that means obviously, you know, Claude Cowork and similar things for everyone, but it's also like, can we just build a bunch of the tools that we need ourselves? Can we just vibe code a bunch of the tools? Can we vibe code our HR system? Can we vibe code our talent acquisition system? Can we vibe code our payroll system? Like so many things where tools exist out there, but you always need to customize them so much and they always basically never really work and we just built them now because it's so cheap to build.

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  50. An email client would have been really cool. I would have loved to build that. I vibe code one just for fun. There are probably a few ways. We're a little away from that because there's other high priority things. But I think an email client is where lawyers sit a lot

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