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“Yeah, I mean, I think a really interesting choice is before the Democrats. Do you choose someone who's going to be a bare knuckle brawler against Trump? Well, I mean, I think Joe Biden would like to think of himself as that. I think Joe Biden”
2018-09-22 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: The NYT's Maggie Haberman, HuffPost's Lydia Polgreen and actor Jane Lynch · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“That it's going to be, I think that our politics nationally for over several cycles now, but it really reached a peak honestly in 2014, not 2016, has been a race to the bottom where everybody's numbers are upside down. And so I think that if the Senate holds Republican and Democrats take the House by a slim margin, you are still going to need Republican votes to get anything done in the House. You are going to have subpoenas flying all over the place at the White House. You are going to have Trump embittered and angry and defiant. And I think that's what we're going to sail into 2020 with. Assuming everything stays the same, the X factor for me is, you know, obviously unfortunate events.”
2018-09-22 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: The NYT's Maggie Haberman, HuffPost's Lydia Polgreen and actor Jane Lynch · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Of them, which was the most savage thing I have ever seen in politics. That will be like a minor aspect of what we're going to look at. If it's Elizabeth Warren, you can imagine what it's going to look like. He calls her Pocahontas now.”
2018-09-22 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: The NYT's Maggie Haberman, HuffPost's Lydia Polgreen and actor Jane Lynch · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I think it's going to be a very ugly election 2020. I had a White House official say to me the other day, if you think that 2016 was unpleasant in terms of Trump's tactics, 2020 is going to make that look like a parade. Assuming it's we, it's all fun and happy”
2018-09-22 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: The NYT's Maggie Haberman, HuffPost's Lydia Polgreen and actor Jane Lynch · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I would also add that someone who picked up on this and was an astute practitioner of making a lot of money off of it was Jeff Zucker, right? I mean, he quite specifically saw the value of the Trump campaign as entertainment. And now I think about that in like a chill goes down my spine.”
2018-09-22 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: The NYT's Maggie Haberman, HuffPost's Lydia Polgreen and actor Jane Lynch · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“As opposed to like a TV set. So I just think there were a set of conditions around Trump that were not just the celebrity component, the branding was so deep and so specific that I don't think we're going to duplicate that anytime soon just because that was over 14 seasons.”
2018-09-22 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: The NYT's Maggie Haberman, HuffPost's Lydia Polgreen and actor Jane Lynch · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I have. I mean, I just think that there is something to that. I think the people are taking the wrong lesson though from Trump, which is that there's the why not me chorus. And so if you're Jamie Diamond, I'm a rich guy from Queens, why not me? If I'm Beta or Work, I'm a celebrity, why not me? The thing that I think that I know I certainly missed it in 2016, the biggest thing that we missed was that we would write these stories about Trump's business and we would write these stories about sort of the businessman in New York who we knew. And it was so dramatically at odds with what voters in the country had been seeing on television of him on the apprentice and the line between entertainment and news is very blurred for people who are not in the business. And so I would go to these rallies in Iowa and I would ask them, you know, they'd be at the Trump rally and I'd ask them if they were going to vote for him and they'd be like, absolutely. I watched him build this, run his business. Then they were talking about the apprentice as if it was actual reality television.”
2018-09-22 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: The NYT's Maggie Haberman, HuffPost's Lydia Polgreen and actor Jane Lynch · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And like this guy, if he loses his sentence seat, we're already talking about him as a potential presidential contender for 2020. And I think what that reflects, and this is no dig on him, is that he has been so successful at creating a kind of cult of celebrity around himself with his, you know, the way that he looks. He was in a punk band. He skateboards. And those things, I think, are those kinds of biographical details have always been part of any politician's story that they tell the voters. But I've just been watching his rise in the excitement about him and thinking that it is that kind of like celebrity entertainment. I don't know, Maggie, have you noticed this?”
2018-09-22 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: The NYT's Maggie Haberman, HuffPost's Lydia Polgreen and actor Jane Lynch · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“It's really hard to say. I mean, I think we have a long history of having blowhards as presidents, kind of the pattern. They're just considerably less blowhardy. I think like being a bit of a blowhard is a core requirement of running for president at a certain level. But it's really hard to speculate on what a post-Trump America will look like because none of us really know we could end up in a situation where essentially only somebody who's become some kind of a celebrity can become president. And it's interesting because there's been a lot of talk about Beethoven O'Rourke. Is it Beetho? Beto.”
2018-09-22 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: The NYT's Maggie Haberman, HuffPost's Lydia Polgreen and actor Jane Lynch · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“It has to slow down, which is part of why I got off Twitter in the first place, but then I came back, right? So that's there's your answer in terms of how I feel this is controllable. I think one of the things that when we talk about our political coverage as if it's a all one collective, I mean, Donald Trump was expert during the campaign at manipulating media against other media. It's what he did for decades in New York City with the tabloids. He did it with the national media. The national media was not equipped to understand what was going on, which is warrant. He played network news hosts off one another. He would try to whip, and some of this is not novel, but he used it to great effect. So it's not going to stop because we are all in competition with one another still. And so I think this is just going to be the way it is until Donald Trump is not president anymore because Donald Trump favors this kind of media environment and helps foster it.”
2018-09-22 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: The NYT's Maggie Haberman, HuffPost's Lydia Polgreen and actor Jane Lynch · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“You'd be sitting on a chair like this, like with your kid or something like that. Rolling my eyes. Rolling your eyes at the four Michaels. And the four Michaels kept getting increasingly fat. That's what I kept thinking. And Trump got increasingly powerful. That's my entire review now. But how do you change that? Because you have to be part of these tools. You both are always on. You're always checking. I'm the same way. And I'm just covering a section of it, the tech section of it. What happens with our political coverage with given what's happened here, which is it's a Twitter-centric, it's a social media centric, it's a cable-centric, it's an instant amplifier. What has to happen?”
2018-09-22 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: The NYT's Maggie Haberman, HuffPost's Lydia Polgreen and actor Jane Lynch · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“How do journalists do that? Because one of the things, you just mentioned that just briefly. I think both of you did, is that how do you change the way, especially using lots of these tech tools, because things have sped up. And, you know, I said it's become weaponized. It's just like this fast and amplified and weaponized and more and more. And you get misconstrued almost continually. How do you change that? Because I remember, I think I told you this, I was watching the fourth estate, which Maggie is in. It's a documentary at the New York Times. And I was at the New York Times and they asked me what I thought of it in front of a group of people from the New York Times. And I said, you know, it was about four guys, white guys named Michael, I think. There was four of them running around, running around, and there was some crisis with Trump, and I couldn't keep them apart. Like, I couldn't understand which one. They were equally angry at each of them. And then every 30 minutes you'd come and you'd go, oh, fuck, and then walk out.”
2018-09-22 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: The NYT's Maggie Haberman, HuffPost's Lydia Polgreen and actor Jane Lynch · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“For me, it's a pretty tough call to say which has been more destructive to our discourse in our democracy. And I would put two suspects in the dock. The first suspect is social media. But I think perhaps the more insidious and more dangerous suspect is actually cable TV news. Cable TV news I think that over decades, cable TV news has essentially trained the audience to see politics in a deeply, deeply fucked up way. Sorry, I don't know if I'm allowed to say that. And this notion of it's a horse race that you balance things with two people shouting at one another. When you see every night our politics portrayed in that way in your living room, of course you end up with a reality star as president”
2018-09-22 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: The NYT's Maggie Haberman, HuffPost's Lydia Polgreen and actor Jane Lynch · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“You know, I've never publicly quit Twitter and never really felt the need to. I have a tendency just not to engage with critics, of bad faith critics, I guess I would say people are interested in honest dialogue. I'm always happy to engage with. But bad faith kind of trolling does not interest me at all. I keep my quality filter on for all of my mentions. So there's a lot of stuff that I actually just don't see, which is great. And when I got on the beta for iOS 12 and having your phone remind you how much time you're spending on social media, it's a little naggy, but it's actually good. having a sense of proportion and knowing that this actually doesn't represent real life is important. I mean, that said,”
2018-09-22 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: The NYT's Maggie Haberman, HuffPost's Lydia Polgreen and actor Jane Lynch · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I don't know how else to answer that question. It's not a great answer. Right. I mean, look, I had said I was going to tweet breaking news and my own stories, and I generally stuck to that. And I will go back to that.”
2018-09-22 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: The NYT's Maggie Haberman, HuffPost's Lydia Polgreen and actor Jane Lynch · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Asked me to write about it, and I actually have thoughts about that I don't mean it. Yeah, I have thoughts about Twitter and why I think it's destructive in the discourse, and I do. But I also think that it's not just that, well, it's the journalists use it as their AP Newswire now, which I think a lot of people do, but the president made this his forum. And so that made Twitter into an entirely different thing than it had been before and something that everybody had to pay attention to. And I don't think we have all figured out how to deal with the fact that journalists in particular, and I'm putting hand up here myself on this, we tend to forget that we are not in a Slack channel when we're on Twitter. We're not sitting around a newsroom talking to each other. And so things that sound like in jokes or that other journalists would get actually can sound kind of terrible out of context or weird or unprofessional. And I think that that's a problem.”
2018-09-22 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: The NYT's Maggie Haberman, HuffPost's Lydia Polgreen and actor Jane Lynch · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“The Bob Woodward book that just came out fills in a lot of details of stuff that we have all been covering, but it doesn't tell you something fundamentally new about this White House. What we've known, what is there is what we've known. So I'm trying to basically look for something that can people about a different aspect of it. And I'm also trying to do more about policy because as we are all chasing these shiny objects, there's a lot going on that is going to impact the country for a long time.”
2018-09-22 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: The NYT's Maggie Haberman, HuffPost's Lydia Polgreen and actor Jane Lynch · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Do this apparently every six months. We're going to have this conversation. Look, I think that every news outlet, I think the Times, the Washington Post, I think the networks, I think that there has taught to be a constant calibration of how you cover this person because to your point, this is not a typical presidency. This is somebody who likes to create his own weather and does not adhere to almost any norms of traditional White House. And so I think for most of last year, For those of us who covered the campaign, what was going on with him was not particularly new, but it's very different when it's the president. And I think there was a sense of like, we were inside the pinball machine following the ball, basically, ricocheting from one place to another. I think that for myself, I have focused more recently on aspects of the investigation into possible campaign collusion and obstruction of justice that Mueller is doing. I also was involved in the coverage of the Michael Cohen case out of”
2018-09-22 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: The NYT's Maggie Haberman, HuffPost's Lydia Polgreen and actor Jane Lynch · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Just clear that it's like we're gonna win the house. And I was like, well, don't include me in your we, first of all. And second of all, no, I don't think it is a certainty by any means. A 70% probability is not 100% probability. Think we'll see that meter again”
2018-09-22 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: The NYT's Maggie Haberman, HuffPost's Lydia Polgreen and actor Jane Lynch · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, I mean, I think just to echo that, there was an interesting spectacle this week where you saw a series of stories quoting Mitch McConnell and others basically raising the alarm that the Senate is in play. And in normal times, you would think that that's just the sort of political game of expectation lowering. But in this case, I think it reflects a genuine alarm that, in fact, the Senate is in play in a way that the Republicans didn't anticipate it being. And so I think we are at this very interesting moment right now. By the way, I would say that winning the House is by no means a foregone conclusion. And I think people are being incredibly complacent just from my Twitter feed and social conversations. I mean, I was in Provincetown this summer, and it was clear, yeah, it was awesome.”
2018-09-22 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: The NYT's Maggie Haberman, HuffPost's Lydia Polgreen and actor Jane Lynch · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I mean, I think that the White House recognizes, and I think he finally has started to, but because he likes to sell all the time, he can't help himself from saying there's a red wave coming, which drives his advisors crazy because they need soft Republican voters to go out to the polls and vote. And Trump's not on the ballots. And they don't believe people like me saying, actually, Republicans have a problem. They think, well, you're the people who told us that Hillary Clinton was going to win. So why would we listen to you? And so they're very concerned about getting their voters out if they lose control of Congress, even if the president does not face impeachment hearings, which depends on who you talk to. He will or he won't, the oversight piece is going to be so specific.”
2018-09-22 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: The NYT's Maggie Haberman, HuffPost's Lydia Polgreen and actor Jane Lynch · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“We are going to be in sort of this holding pattern until Mueller, the special counsel, either takes an action or more likely than taking an action of indicting somebody close to the president because I don't believe he's going to indict the president delivers a report to Congress and that will say whatever it will say and then there are the midterms and people will either vote a Republican Congress out or not, but it's all going to hinge on that.”
2018-09-22 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: The NYT's Maggie Haberman, HuffPost's Lydia Polgreen and actor Jane Lynch · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“By explosion, you mean like a tweet? I mean, so this morning the president of the United States tweeted questioning the death toll in Puerto Rico as a Democratic plot against him. So that was, I think, about as much of an explosion as we've seen certainly in his usage, in his use of technology. I mean, look, I think that we have seen by various metrics you have fact-checkers that do a running tabulation of his falsehoods, his lies, his exaggerations, clearly the volume has increased just by any metric. I think that that is at least in part because the number, the objective reality that he is facing is becoming harder for him to get away from.”
2018-09-22 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: The NYT's Maggie Haberman, HuffPost's Lydia Polgreen and actor Jane Lynch · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“No, I was saying the Great Aretha Franklin Rest in Power would always bring her purse on stage with her because I guess she didn't want it to get stolen. And so like Aretha, and by the way, Maggie's got quite a set of pipes, so she's got more in common with Aretha than you'd think.”
2018-09-22 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: The NYT's Maggie Haberman, HuffPost's Lydia Polgreen and actor Jane Lynch · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I'm here with two of my favorite people, two of the most important journalists around, Maggie Haberman from the New York Times. Lydia Paul Green, who runs the Huffing Impost, and Lydia used to also be at the New York Times. So what we're going to be talking about is obviously Trump, Trump, and more Trump. But I do want to get into Maggie, what is your temperature right now in Trump? Her phone on stage because she has to carry.”
2018-09-22 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: The NYT's Maggie Haberman, HuffPost's Lydia Polgreen and actor Jane Lynch · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT