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Jann Wenner

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“Well, I don't know. As long as I can make a good contribution to it, which I think I still do editorially, I can still feel when I go in and have an idea that I've got good story ideas, I've got good instincts on what a story should be and shouldn't be and where a lead is and a story like that. And as long as I can make those kind of contributions and come with story ideas, then I'm happy and delighted and want to be there to do that. The minute I see, I'm kind of like failing and coming up with ideas. Everybody's looking at me going, What is this old man thinking? Then I think I may back off.”
2017-07-10 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Rolling Stone: Jann Wenner · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“You know, who knows? I mean, in the heyday, Rolling Stones was a fortune, you know. That heyday is past, you know. But I don't regret having not sold it in the heyday for the most you get out of it. I went on to have another 10, 15 years of delightfully running my own company and my own magazine and not working for anybody else. And when you sell it, you end up working for somebody else and they have every right to tell you what to do. And I'm just not a person who kind of likes to be told what to do.”
2017-07-10 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Rolling Stone: Jann Wenner · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“The rest of it doesn't matter sooner or later, you're going to get something like that. Whether the New York Times, the Washington Post”
2017-07-10 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Rolling Stone: Jann Wenner · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I was sick about it. I mean, nearly 50 years of great journalism. and a reputation for integrity and for quality and all that stuff. And then there was a couple of really bad judgment calls that were made on a very sensitive story and it blew up on our face But the general report on rape on campus was quite accurate. The illustrative main story of the rape victim that was made up by that rape victim. And we print that without adequately checking it.”
2017-07-10 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Rolling Stone: Jann Wenner · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“That was difficult. But not an existential crisis. I'm not allowed to talk about it. We settled. The principal offset with it, and we're just once to say it was an amical settlement. All I can say is we made a big mistake in our editorial process. Yeah.”
2017-07-10 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Rolling Stone: Jann Wenner · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Right, but I have to dispute the fact that I got a lot of bad people don't like me or think I'm a jerk. I mean, sure, there's criticism, but I think my reputation is more from being fair and being equitable and reasonable people. Being a tough and demanding boss, absolutely, but I don't think anybody would say that is unfair or mean or cruel. What I've learned about managing people is that you want them to be happy what they're doing. You want smart people. You want loyal people, loyalty counts a lot. But people, if they're unhappy in their job, won't do a good job. And I believe you should treat people justly and fairly. I'm not a tough in that manner, but I'm not shrink too much when a decision has to be made. It has to be made. I'm one for second chances. I've always given people second chances.”
2017-07-10 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Rolling Stone: Jann Wenner · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“We are always in touch, you know, frequently and frequently, you know, we always knew each other doing. We talk often. I was always trying to get in to write something else. Fear and loathing and elk and one about the publishers of the Roxanne Pulitzer trial, which were great pieces of writing.”
2017-07-10 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Rolling Stone: Jann Wenner · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“That's correct. I mean, after the campaign, a few campaign related pieces about Watergate, he just became unproductive and remained so for many, many years.”
2017-07-10 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Rolling Stone: Jann Wenner · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Well, I never really had a falling out with Hunter. So I can't really tell you that anything happened. All I can tell you is that Hunter liked to go around talking about how awful his bosses were. You need to always have a villain, a foil for his writing. And if nobody else was available, if Nixon was not available to somebody else, then it was me. And I just took it with good humor. But we were very fast friends for years.”
2017-07-10 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Rolling Stone: Jann Wenner · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“We publish Patty Sm And today we've got three or four really superb women writers, Janet Reitman, Alex Morris, and we were just talent-based, you know. So if you're talented, you had a place. We wanted you. We didn't look beyond that.”
2017-07-10 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Rolling Stone: Jann Wenner · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Well, It's not that you'd work hard. We were just looking for talent In whatever shape or form it came in, man, woman, of any color, any shape, any size, it didn't matter to me. But it's just that the general society just didn't produce great woman journalists at that time. There were a few who wrote for The Times, but not many who wrote in our area. We would go after women as anybody else. We published Norfron and Alan Willis at that time later on, Gloria Emerson. We had a great group of women editors at the center of the Smith”
2017-07-10 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Rolling Stone: Jann Wenner · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I was a 22 year old kid. I didn't know what I was doing. I wasn't out to make a big buck. And I certainly had no business background. Ambition and energy and a good idea and a great idea.”
2017-07-10 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Rolling Stone: Jann Wenner · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Well, it's a combination. If some people approach you, you seek other people out. You're always on the search for talent and always open to it. That's what put Rollingstone over. My brilliant management of it was the fact that we were publishing such great stuff. I just have an instinct for talented people and how to work with them. And thinking back, Ralph leaves an interview with somebody once said, the proof of how good an idea rolling stone was, is that it survived Jan's management of it.”
2017-07-10 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Rolling Stone: Jann Wenner · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“There's a lot available to distract everybody in every single way. Every possible kind of entertainment. So to find people actually sit and read, there's a shrinking number of people who find magazines that vital. Having said that, we still have a huge readership of a million four right now.”
2017-07-10 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Rolling Stone: Jann Wenner · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Well, if I was 21 today, I doubt I would consider magazine publishing. People are looking to go in something digital, you know, whether it's digital delivery of food or digital delivery of news or how to hook up. So if one wanted to do a magazine day, my counsel would be just make us a small, make it a small magazine. So that's supported by its readers, not by advertisers.”
2017-07-10 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Rolling Stone: Jann Wenner · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“No, there was no truth to that. We were right on the punk movement and right on disco and people hated disco. They hated us for covering disco. And other people hate it for covering punk, but we always get critics. That's good to have. Our flaws, we're going to stay with the news or what's of interest to people and what is currently going on in popular culture. We're going to cover it at its leading edge and sometimes popular culture is terrible. Sometimes”
2017-07-10 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Rolling Stone: Jann Wenner · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“No, we started out sweetly and we started men's journal. But Rolling Stone grew Because it was so good And because it was so relevant to people's lives, it gathered a big, big readership, and the advertisers followed.”
2017-07-10 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Rolling Stone: Jann Wenner · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“No, no, no. By the time we moved to New York, it was fully up and operating. I mean, Rolling Stone was getting to a circulation of 1 million copies. When you've got a circulation of 1 million. You were a solid, stable business with a lot of money coming in.”
2017-07-10 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Rolling Stone: Jann Wenner · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Well, we had spent a lot of money moving. And moving to fancy new offices, all this kind of stuff. At the same time, I started a new publication called Outside and left that in San Francisco. And there came a point where it was just too much to be carrying both magazines. So I sold outside magazine.”
2017-07-10 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Rolling Stone: Jann Wenner · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Well, again, I wasn't myself doing this. I was always had somebody there as CEO or CFO who had the day-to-day responsibility for all that. And that person would report to me and I look at it and have oversight over it and try to understand it and try to give directions and strategic advice. But I didn't have control of the day-to-day operations on the business side. I control the edits. But when you're involved in something like in that stage or something like that, when things are growing all the time and getting better and more and more money is coming in, you don't have to be too tough to manage that. You're the victim of success from outside. It kind of brings you along. The true test of how tough a businessman you are, how shrewd is when things are not going so well.”
2017-07-10 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Rolling Stone: Jann Wenner · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Well, I mean It wasn't too difficult. I mean, really, first off, I never quite believed in the counterculture or called that an alternate culture maybe, but definitely, you know, you had certain value systems of trying to do good and trying to be fair to people instead of being kind of ruthless. Money only is the only thing that counts. So it was always a bit of a balancing act, but I think everybody quite understand that everybody wanted to get paid. If you had families, you wanted to support them. So I don't think anybody really deeply questioned the need to have a profit ethic and a professional ethics. I mean, there were some outside critics in the early days of people, oh, your principles are this, but your hippie capitalist, and it's kind of contradiction. How can you stand for both? But I mean, stuff that wasn't nothing I really paid attention to.”
2017-07-10 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Rolling Stone: Jann Wenner · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Well, yeah, I mean, there was that heyday when we started, which had not only this thriving rock and roll culture and this thriving youth culture, but a thriving political culture and all the left stuff and the black pants and all sorts of things were happening first in San Francisco. But sort of by the time he moved, New York was starting to have its moment again, starting to come back to life a little. And we arrived just at that time when Mayler was around and Andy Borehol was around. And then in terms of it wasn't so much a closure backwater, it was just provincial. You know, it was out on the coast It was often the mainstream. It wasn't putting out this big, unique culture thing in music anymore.”
2017-07-10 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Rolling Stone: Jann Wenner · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“We were, you know, the company by that time was split into half of it in San Francisco and half of it in New York, where we had a lot of ad salespeople, a lot of writers, a lot of editors. It was clear we had to do it in one place. And it was clear also the magazine business was in New York. So if you want all the resources of talent, they were available in New York. That's where the industry was. So it was kind of a no-brainer that that's what we would do. And we went and did it and ended up on Fifth Avenue.”
2017-07-10 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Rolling Stone: Jann Wenner · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Well, after about three years, we went through a real brush with running out of money, which lasted a couple of months because we had moved offices in San Francisco from rent-free loft in a printer's place to a big, you know, expensive expansive offices. Then all the overhead that entails. And we were spending money without really thinking about it. All of a sudden, oh my God, you're going to run out of money. And we had switched to a big national distributor. And so all of a sudden our print room was like 300, 400,000. And once we got through that, we started professionalizing our management. I mean, really actually bringing people who are CPAs or had accounting degrees or had some reasonable business background to kind of manage things and keep track of the money. And over the years, that just got more and more professionalized. When we moved to New York in 1977, I mean, that really was, you know, finally was really hitting the big time.”
2017-07-10 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Rolling Stone: Jann Wenner · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“and could always count on him to do so. So I had a great time. I mean, it took a lot of my time. It was draining, an exhausting thing to do, but the net effect was we produced a brilliant piece of work in terms of covering the entire election. And it was also one of the key things that really finally put Rolling Stone on the map in a big way. You know, everybody in the press corps was reading, everyone in the campaign was reading it, and people around the country were riveted by what he had to say. But by that time, we were a pretty serious rock and roll magazine, pretty widely respected. It was starting to get a lot of advertising, a lot of advertising from record companies, and we were on our way.”
2017-07-10 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Rolling Stone: Jann Wenner · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Well, Hunter took a lot of what we call hand holding. I mean, he was erratic and he was moody and energetic and all over the map, but he was also a professional, a superb reporter, a brilliant writer, a deep sense of responsibility about things, and though he would work into the very last minute deadline and almost drive you crazy and bring you right to the edge. In the end he always delivered.”
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“But you had, I mean, look, if you're trying to make a presidential election at that time interesting to young people and people have basically turned off the political process, you have to engage them again and make it kind of colorful and interesting. And McGovern was an interesting personality. And Nixon at that time was a well-defined villain. So it was kind of a setup for doing really good writing and reporting. Everybody else, the traditional coverage of it was bloodless. And Hunter went in and broke all that apart and became the most compelling writer and reporter on that campaign. As everybody well acknowledged.”
2017-07-10 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Rolling Stone: Jann Wenner · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“No, maybe I think that's what it took. By that time Hunter had written a couple serious deep investigative pieces for us on like East LA and Echicano movement there. We had done fear and loathing in Las Vegas, and he had become our star writer, star reporter. So I was always on the lookout for what would be the next great thing for Hunter to do So the election comes along. This is the first time the 18-year-olds have franchised a vote. It was in a war situation, so it was an anti-war election. And Hunter had this kind of political background having run for sheriff and having actually covered Nixon years before. So it was just kind of a natural thing. And I mean American politics. Why not send out an expert on the Hell's Angels to do American politics? Make sort of sense.”
2017-07-10 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Rolling Stone: Jann Wenner · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“So I wrote him back and said, Well, why don't you write about that? And which he did, and which we published a couple months later, it was called The Battle of Aspen or Freak Power in Iraqis. And, of course, the idea that he's running for Sheriff of Aspen caught enormous amount of attention in media places around the world. All of a sudden he was inundated with reporters and film crews from New York, from London and so forth like that. And so once again, it started just our reputation growing more and more.”
2017-07-10 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Rolling Stone: Jann Wenner · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I had new hunters' work before I started Rolling Stone. He had written a book called The Hells Angels. And so I just wrote him a letter after I started rolling out and asked him to write something for us. And he wrote back St. Geez, he'd been reading Rolling Stone. It was terrific and great, but he'd love to write, but he couldn't write now because he was busy involved in running for sheriff of Aspen, Colorado.”
2017-07-10 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Rolling Stone: Jann Wenner · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And that caused more attention with a photo portfolio and big report about girls who follow bands around and all the stuff associated with that. And that, I think, led to an article in Time magazine about us. So we're starting to get a little on the national radar then. You know, sales are kind of picking up in different big cities around us. It kind of spreads by word of mouth. And then finally we made a deal with more of a national magazine wholesaler rather than the company in San Francisco and started appearing more and more around the country. The more we appeared, the more people liked it, more subscriptions came in, more revenues came in. So we felt we really had a going business. Know after the first year, I don't think we had a question about survival at that point. We felt committed and on the road.”
2017-07-10 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Rolling Stone: Jann Wenner · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Well, the first time he got a lot of attention was on the first year anniversary, we printed the cover, the band two virgins cover the album that John Lennon Yoko Ono did together when the... Shod them and backside them, then a picture of them completely naked. So we ran those on our first anniversary issue and we got an article about ourselves in San Francisco Chronicle, our first press, which was the headline beetle perils SF. But we sold out the printing. We printed more and it just kind of got more and more people talking. And then I think in year two. We did big specialist young groupies”
2017-07-10 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Rolling Stone: Jann Wenner · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Well, yes, nobody else is trying to do this. I mean, the primary mainstream press didn't care at all about this particular corner of American culture or give much credence or thought to the idea that there's a kind of a booming new generation about the takeover, that the baby boom was going to have some kind of big impact. I mean, at that time, still music was looked down upon as teenage nonsense or ephemeral to say the least, done by people look really strange in long hair, you know, not really acceptable people, but nonetheless, music was the kind of tribal telegraph, the drums that were beating for young people around the world where they can kind of communicate with each other and see what other people liked them around the world were doing. And so this is the way young people communicate. There was nothing else.”
2017-07-10 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Rolling Stone: Jann Wenner · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Well, it's hard to know because as that would go out, then we'd start getting some monies in from selling it at newsstands and there would be checks from that and checks from advertisers and then people might start subscribing, paying $5 a year or something like that. So, you know, there's enough to keep it going that sooner or later we hired our first employee who received $25 a week. By the end of the first year, we were a viable business with three or four people being paid, getting it out regularly, selling 30 or 40,000 copies an issue. People were responding to it. The bread companies are liking it. We were getting letters and correspondence and recognition from various artists in the first year. Interviews with Mink Jagger. So it was gathering momentum. People liked what they saw.”
2017-07-10 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Rolling Stone: Jann Wenner · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Well, we tried to sell ads, and we get a few ads here and there at the beginning, but there was not much revenue in it. You might get $500 an issue in advertising at the beginning.”
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“Well, how can I answer that question? You could do both, but really one has to sacrifice for the other. I mean, once it gets going and you're trying to print something every two weeks, you really have no time to think of anything but the next day, more copy, more stories, you know, and all the little things that go into it. I mean, I was the mail room as well as the editor.”
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“It was every other week of Fortnite. Well, we had very few writers, and it's very hard to push them too hard if they're all volunteer, if you're not paying anybody, you're asking them to do things, but everybody's like imbued with the same spirit and enthusiasm for it. And, you know, people really pitched in and did it. And we were able to get that thing out every two weeks without fail from then on out.”
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“Here's a color vision. The big thing was we did an investigation to what had happened to the money that had been earned at the Monterey Pop Festival. Had it in fact been given to charity or not? So we looked into that in a long report. Kind of established right then and there that we were going to do very traditional journalism.”
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“John Lennon was on a cover, a photo of him as private gripweed in a movie How I Won the War. And that came back simply, I mean, not that we sent out somebody to take a picture of John Lennon, but just whatever free publicity photographs were flying around the time. We were looking for something and there was a package of pictures for that movie was just coming out. We just took that one of John and dressed up as a soldier and turned out to be brilliant. And he went looking back at it. The choice of John Lennon for cover of our first issue was more than fortunate.”
2017-07-10 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Rolling Stone: Jann Wenner · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I had clothes. None. You know, it was just, we paid what we could pay for out of the money we had on hand, and that would be as far as we go. And since we weren't paying salaries, weren't paying rent, our only cost really was printing the paper. And the cost of distributions, which I wasn't even aware of until two or three months later when all these trucking bills kept coming in.”
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“It was flying by the sea of the pants. I mean, we knew nothing about magazine publishing or distribution. I had a vague understanding of what editorial was and what it should be like and knew how to write and report. Ralph had some experience with the record companies. And it was just right Assem”
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“We kicked around a lot of names. The one that kept sticking was Rolling Stone, the Dylan song, like a Rolling Stone. And it was the title of an essay that Ralph had written for a small publication called The American Scholar, in which he laid out his thinking about the meaning of rock and roll and what its importance was in the New America developing American society.”
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“Yeah, it was all complicated, not too expensive, but we need to find offices. So we went to the printer that we had used Sunday ramparts agreed to give us offices upstairs in our printing facility since we were going to print the magazine there. We assembled friends of mine and people I met at ramparts or people I know from Berkeley or other people writing about in the rock and roll scene. And that's them all to volunteer their efforts to write articles or take pictures or help put it together. So it was really a volunteer effort.”
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“He had some cash to put in, and I got some. Thousand dollars for my mother, for my mother-in-law to be and some money from a college friend of mine and also from my stepmother. And that assembled together was $7,500, and that was what we started with.”
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“No. I mean, I don't even know if we knew what the biggest magazine in America was. But that wasn't part of the ambition. The ambition was to do something that was new and fresh about the music. And Roger was no longer dance time. I mean, it started to have some very serious musical and political content and social content. I mean, these were people starting to articulate a kind of a rebellious stance towards society. They were concerned about Dillman was writing a lot about alienation and the Beals were writing a lot about kind of social morris and how people should be treated. And these were themes that were beginning to resonate deeply with a new young generation, of which I was on the leading edge of.”
2017-07-10 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Rolling Stone: Jann Wenner · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I don't know. I mean We got along really well, and we shared the same vision. And he had when he was young, started a publication called Jazz Quarterly, which was somewhat the same of fans magazine about that about jazz. So I think he probably saw in me maybe a younger version of himself. He saw its possibilities and he saw that I had some kind of level of talent and ambition that might be able to bring something off. He even gave me money for it.”
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“We were very big friends. I saw I was looking to Ralph for kind of career advice or guidance or something to do with him since we were so in sympathy and in sync about the way we saw the world. And we tried a couple of different ideas, you know, edit a book, do anthology, you know, something centered around music. And I guess either he or I said, well, why don't we start a publication about it? And, well, it was a high bar to get over, but a low bar, I mean, it was going to be a newspaper on newsprint. So it wasn't going to be any kind of full-scale magazine launch or anything like that.”
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“And after that job ran out about nine months later, I was kind of at a loss at what to do. I was 20 years old, I think, at that time, or 21. And no career training, no immediate job prospects.”
2017-07-10 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Rolling Stone: Jann Wenner · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Well, he kind of looked after my career. I went after in the summer of 65. I was in London, living there, as just a kind of wild-eyed kid. And when I came back to the States, I was looking for a job and I asked him if he knew of anything. He said he did. There was something available, something called Ramparts Magazine in San Francisco. Why didn't I come back? And he got me that job. In Rampart's magazine itself was kind of very Was a left wing kind of investigative journalism magazine. I was in charge of that tender age of the arts entertainment conference, which since I was in charge, leaned heavily towards rock and roll and hippie culture. So much of the stuff that would end up in Rolling Stone.”
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“I sure was. Because I'm part of Mount of my column after him. So we chatted and something like that, and then subsequently, you know, met a couple more times or had lunch or something like that, or kept seeing each other at dances and became buddies, you know. And also I got the sense that he was taking me under his wing and he liked what I was doing, thought I was bright and energetic and enjoyed the company.”
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