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  1. Yeah. I mean, you gotta have a program that has variants, right? So we do it at our gym is we have one person who creates this template, the skeleton, then he creates the workouts, and we have it peer-reviewed by six other of our coaches, and then it gets back to him. So we try and have a lot of checks and balance in our program because regardless of who's programming the program, there's always going to be some type of bias towards what you like. Sure. Always. And so you need to have other people have checks and balances on that.

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  2. I think by design, when you look at like a program and if it's constantly varied, by design, you should be able to do it, you know, five days a week and you should be okay. If the program is inappropriate and the volume is good and you're listening to your body, you should be able to perform that program five days a week because of the variance, right? You should be able to go long one day, heavy one day, you know, below parallel one day. So two days is better than no days, but two days is also challenging because you go in, you get really sore, and then you recover and they get really sore again and your body never gets in this rhythm. So assuming you go to a gym that has good programming, I think you can go five days a week.

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  3. I told myself, right? And so that moment I left there. I went to the counselor's office and said, hey, look, I need to figure out the fast way to get the heck out of this school. And so I ended up taking full class loads, doing whatever I had to do. I ended up applying to Santa Clara two times after that and not being accepted because I tried after one year. I didn't get accepted. I tried for like a year and a half. I didn't get accepted. Then after two years, I was accepted, which got me on track to graduate in four. So I graduated with all my peers, which was great. I graduated with my wife actually, which was really cool. But that was the moment that really kind of sparked it like, dude, like playtime's over. High school's done. You're in the real world and no one really cares about you. You better get your ass in check.

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  4. So, you know, so going out of high school, I thought I was going to play football. It ended up not working out. So I ended up going to West Valley. And, you know, first day, it wasn't that big of a deal, right? I get to the first day. I'm like, I'm at West Valley. No big deal. I'll transfer another school in a couple of years. But all my friends had gone to a four-year Santa Claus University, which where I ended up graduating from, right? But I just remember first day of school, we're going around and we're all saying our names, right? And it's like, hey, I'm John. This is my first second year. Hey, Mary. This is my, you know. whatever second semester, whatever it is. And then all of a sudden you have this woman next to me and I kid you not, right? My first class of my first day at West Valley. And lady goes, hi, my name is Suzanne. I can't remember the name exactly. She goes, but for a fact, this is my seventh year at West Valley. And I just remember looking at her and looking at this teacher and just being like, dude, I got to get my ass in check and I need to get my shit together, right?

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  5. I was like, what am I doing out here? Right? And I had to instantly revert back on my head. You know what? I made a commitment. That commitment was I was going to finish out these games. So I better slap myself in the face, stop being a wimp, and finish it. Because if I allowed myself to give in then, what other things would I allow myself to give in to, right? I made a commitment to myself and I wanted to live up to that. Now, over the years, because of other things happening in my life, I haven't been able to make that strong of commitment. So therefore I choose not even to go out there and attempt.

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  6. I would tell myself that I've made a commitment to myself, my family to go out there and do this. And I wanted to do it because I wanted to get comfortable, uncomfortable. I wanted to see where I stack up against my competitors. And I wanted to do it for me, right? And at the time, I didn't have as many other obligations. Now, as life changes, right, things change. But at the time, my why was, hey, I made a commitment. I'm going to do this. And I remember one year we did this camp Pendleton race and I was a 10 mile just crazy hill run. And I was like, halfway done. I just, you know, I'm like going through like this desert. And I look around. There's no one around. I'm just like, oh gosh. And I see a tarantula. This is a true story. Just walking across. I'm just looking at him like, what the hell? Or a big ass spider. Maybe it was a tarantula. It was big ass.

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  7. I think positive self-talk is a really hard thing to learn, but it's an important trait to develop. And I've learned that over the years with the mindset coaches I work with, where you try and find ways to reframe things in your head. If something's going wrong instead of saying, oh, my legs hurt, you say, hey, focus on midfoot strike if you're running or whatever, right? You try and rephrase into a positive. And reverting back to your why, I think it's really important that going into these games, what I would do is.

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  8. So funny enough, he really took me on as like a mentor. He really did. He really mentored me really well. And he would ride the elliptical as part of his fitness routine. And I would just go over there and just go meet with him. And I don't think he disliked it because we would just, you know, bullshit, have good conversation. I think it kind of made the time go by a little bit quicker.

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  9. You're a coach and you're talking to people, you're coaching them, but if you're a business owner, you also need to learn how to sell. But one of the things I would also do is about twice a week, I would go and ride the elliptical with the owner of the business. And I would just pick his brain, understand what's going on. I think one of those things early on was recognizing I wanted to learn everything I could from his mistakes that I didn't make as many. And one of the things we've done a lot is delegate out things, right? Not have enough of a humbleness to be like, hey, look, I can't do everything best, the best. I need to hire outside people. And I think I learned that early on from him, learning from some of his mistakes.

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  10. Think looking back, it was understanding that back in the day You weren't going to make money off your competitive fitness career. And so I had to open up a business and I had to open it. And I think one of the best things I ever did was I recognized to try and rob and steal as much as I can knowledge from people around me. So when I was in high school, I worked with a front desk at a conventional gym. Then when I graduated from high school, I went to college. I started working as a sales associate there. And I started making good money. So as I'm going to a junior college, I went to Vest Valley, actually. I was there and I just got woken up. Like no one cares about me. I was like the jocke and I was like the, you know, kind of like the class clown in high school. All of a sudden you get to college. It's like they don't care about you, right? So I really turned a corner and I said, hey, look, you know, I need to take responsibility for what I need to get done. I want to be successful. And so I started going to school full-time, working full-time. But what I also did was I learned how to talk to people. I learned how to sell, which was really important because in my line of work in the fitness industry.

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  11. The other thing I'd ask of you is, you know, are you doing it with a strong intention and a strong why, right? Like what is your why? Why do you want to open up this business? Is it to make money? Because if it's just to make money, just like competing at the CrossFit Games, you need to have a strong internal why. Because when your backs up against the wall and is very challenging, you need to revert back to that why to push through. And in business, it's not always, you know, rainbows and unicorns, right? There's challenging times. And so you need to be able to revert back to your internal why of why you started to be able to do well. So I would say A, how you going to win, right? Tell me how you're going to win. Why are you better than the other guy down the street? Two, do you have a strong reason why you want to open it? And then three, is it a good time in your life to do it, right? Is it a good time for you to open it? Do you just have a baby? Do you have tons of mortgages and different types of stuff, right? Or is it a good time in your life to go ahead and, you know, go open up this business is really what I like to ask people.

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  12. Right. Just because you like to work out doesn't mean you should necessarily go open up a gym. I love to eat. I love food, but I sure as hell are not going to open up a restaurant because I'm not qualified to do so. I don't have the training and the expertise, right? And it's okay if you don't in certain areas, just go find an expert in those other areas, right?

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  13. Yeah, I mean, one of the things I'd ask them, and I get asked this often, is, you know, hey, I want to open up a gym. What do you think? I'm like, okay, well, let's start with these three simple questions, right? Number one, are you qualified to do so? What makes you qualified to open up this business? Do you have an expertise in it? How are you going to basically give yourself this competitive advantage that you know that when you go to open it up, you're going to win, right? What is your competitive advantage?

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  14. Yeah, like we have a program that we've incorporated calls the Rise program and what it incorporates the nutritionists, a mindset coach, and a fitness coach. And for a lot of people, it's all a mindset, right? It's all for decades. They haven't exercised. They've used food as an outlet or whatever it may be, right? And that's okay, but they need to get over that in their head to truly make an impact and change for a long time, right? Instead of just making it like this short-term thing, then you really get down to the root of the problem and make it as more of a part of their daily routine instead of just something they do, right? And that starts, but to start as slowly then work it up is much easier than just to kind of go crazy and then it just, I haven't seen it work as well.

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  15. So, I think the secret to success is hey, just take your time, right? This is not a lifelong journey, right? It's not like a one month fad. I want to be fit and I want to be fit for the rest of my life. And so I think it's important to recognize that and to make small steps towards the right direction, take out sugar. Do this. Do that. Small little steps. Then go into the gym and start doing certain stuff. But I think finding a camaraderie, finding a coach and finding a community to support you are rule number one. I think that doing it on your own is very challenging. You know, you and I were talking about cooking earlier and it's like, if I want to learn how to cook, really, really learn how to cook, I could learn from a book. I could learn from maybe watching a show. But to really kind of dive into the nuances, I would need to have someone to kind of show me in the kitchen what I would do next, at least for me, right? I don't have enough experience with it. And so when people go to the gym, sure they could read books, they could do stuff, but I think having someone there like a coach advise them on different things is going to be an easy way for them to get more success from it.

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  16. Yes, I mean, I've been really fortunate over the years. I started a company NC Fit, and we have a ton of members. And I've been able to look at it and say, hey, what is generally gets them to kind of stay with us? And more times than not, it's starting off slow and then working their way up. I think a lot of people that get gung-ho, right? They come in, oh, you know, I want to lose weight. I want to do this, I want to do that. I'll eat whatever you tell me. I'll do whatever you tell me. And then all of a sudden, a month later, they're gone.

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  17. So it's Sumadel Tai Pool. There's a push press. There's a rower, a wall ball, and a box jump. And all of the movements are light enough that you can keep moving on them. And so, you know, when BJ finished as the story goes, when BJ finished, it was like, oh man, that felt like a fight gone bad. And so that's kind of how the story goes.

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  18. Old school, right? Long time ago. And essentially, what it is one minute, one minute, one minute, five, five movements, and then you one minute rest and you do that for three rounds.

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  19. I would just look at different metrics. I look at what is your mile time, how many pull-ups can you complete? What is your max deadlift, back squat, press, and then start looking at a few like the movements that combine both, right? And so I think sometimes there's people that are really good at running. And there's some people that are really good at lifting. But I think the beauty is when you can combine those two. And so, you know, a lot of like the frans and the different types of workout, like a fight on bad score, those are good ways of doing it.

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  20. I mean, I like the ones that give you the biggest return, right? I mean, I think if you're doing thrusters, yes, they're very challenging, but they give you a huge return in terms of benefit, in terms of the way you look, in terms of how you feel, the biproduct of strength. So I think thrusters, burpees, those type of things. If I had to pick several items I would only do or several movements I'd only do for the rest of my life, it'd be things like that.

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  21. I think primarily was that I really enjoyed training. I didn't do it. You know, a lot of people, they like to compete. I didn't necessarily like to compete or did like to compete. I enjoyed competing, but I enjoyed training more. I liked being in an environment that just pushed me. I liked getting comfortable with uncomfortable. I liked leaving the gym and feeling like I just got my butt kicked. It made me feel really good about what I accomplished. And then I went on and tried to accomplish that same concept in the rest of my life, right? And I think that was something I really picked up on early on when I first found CrossFit back in 2006. And then I won the CrossFit Games in 08 and I was able to compete eight more times, mainly because I just love to train, you know, and the byproduct or the expression of that was my ability to go out there and compete.

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  22. one egg. Nope, because I was on the road at 4 a.m. I went to Starbucks and I took the sandwich. I took it apart and I just had the egg with the bacon on top.

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