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  1. I'm going through this cycle, guy, and I'm thinking there's got to be something better. This, I almost have it. So I was thinking like, what if I'm sitting in my apartment one night? And it was like three in the morning and I'm just problem solving and problem solving and leaning on all the resourcefulness I'd learned in my life. We talked about the farm and all the power tools. In my mind, I'm searching for a solution. And I'm looking at my hands. I'm doing kind of rubbing my hands back and forth like this. And I'm thinking, what is this? I'm like, oh my God, that's a jigsaw.

    2024-05-20 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · Therabody: Jason Wersland · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT

  2. Yeah. And it was. I'm looking around my practice. Like, what can I use? I'd have different people adjust me and try and do traction and just never went away. The only thing that I could find in my office that helped was this vibrating table that we would lay patients on to do traction. So I started just laying on the table. Like I'd just go to the practice and lay on the table. And I'd have to get up off the table because the pain would come back.

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  3. Its nerves always get compressed, but mine was a nine millimeter disc bulge. And it pushed on the nerve. And I didn't realize that nerve pain isn't on a time clock and it doesn't care about anything. So, when someone has sciatica, a woman is pregnant and she starts talking about the pain in her legs, there's no way you can understand that pain You've had it before

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  4. Well, I tried it, but when you have nerve pain, nothing, not the best drugs in the world deal with nerve pain. And in my mind, I think this is really important for people to understand it wasn't computing. It wasn't making sense. I'm thinking I sacrificed my life to do this thing that I thought I could help people in this exact situation. And there's no help for me. Like that's a problem.

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  5. In my trap and my rhomboid on the right side, it was like someone had a knife underneath my shoulder blade. And I kept thinking, like, I'm in chiropractic school. There has to be someone here that can fix this. And I'm trying to practice, so I have to go to school. I'm going to practice, working on patients, and I'm dealing with this pain. And it's like unrelenting. I never experienced pain like that. So I started looking for things that could take the pain away. I had to sit around with my right hand on the top of my head because it would take the pressure off the nerve and it'd take it from a 10 out of 10 to like a five so I could at least breathe. And this went on for days and days. So like you said, the accident was October 17th of two thousand seven. By Christmas of two thousand seven I was incapacitated, couldn't move, I couldn't sneeze. I didn't want to talk. I didn't want to eat. I talk about how much I care about my kids. I literally, when they call on the phone, I couldn't talk to them. I just didn't have.

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  6. Part of your back, right? What happened? So I ended up realizing I felt like it was okay had a massive concussion. And then the pain started to come on.

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  7. Flew off across two lanes. I'm unconscious. And I wake up. And the first thought was, am I dead? I'm bleeding, broken helmet, backpack, shit all over. People are getting out of their cars. And I stand up and I'm like, I'm looking at myself. I'm like, what the heck? I'm not even really hurt.

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  8. I had a test that day at school. It was a physical therapy test, so it was one of my last PT tests, which I think is ironic. I woke up, jump on my bike, flying up the 10. The 405, get into downtown. I'm just where the 10 and the 110 split in front of the old staple center. And I'm flying through traffic and I'm gaining speed as I get into that corner out of nowhere, a guy comes off the 10 and he just shows up in my lane out of nowhere. And I hit this guy head first right into the driver's side door.

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  9. And I'm just like, this is driving me crazy. And I'd see these motorcycles flying by me because you can split traffic in LA. So I was like, huh? So I went and bought a motorcycle and it was, I was overconfident in my ability to drive.

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  10. At the time, I lived in Venice. My school was in Hollywood, and the practice was in Beverly Hills. So if anyone knows LA,

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  11. He was there to teach me technique. He was there to teach me the flow of a patient. He was there to teach me how to read X-rays. And in my world, I realized that the school was one thing, but out in the real world was another thing. And he was teaching me these real world experiences. And he also let me build a practice. So you help me build a patient base and I had my own patients coming in. I had my own schedule. As my schedule increased, his schedule would decrease. So I'm not working on his patients so much anymore. I'm kind of building my own practice.

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  12. Things like that. Yes, yes. All Things that at age 29, you're not fresh on. So you imagine how challenging it was I had to pay for a tutor. But I was going to make this happen.

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  13. So I called my ex wife and I was like, hey, listen, I don't know that I can do this. And she said something to this day that was one of those things. But she said, you are not coming home. You're going to stick this out because my kids are not going to have a failure for a dad. And I was like, thank you very much. So I had to get a lot of my early BS stuff done before I could get into that program. But I was going to the same school.

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  14. It was super challenging. I went to my first day of chiropractic school, first class, their taking role. I'm in there for five minutes. This kid opens the door and says, hey, is Jason Werslin here? I raised my hand. He brings me out in the hallway. And he says, I'm sorry. I miscalculated your hours. You have to go to school for two more years to get your bachelor of science before you can start chiropractic school. So I have to pull you out of this class. Can you imagine I tell this all the time, I'm joking, but I'm kind of not. There was a window behind him, and I visualized me throwing him out the window.

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  15. Is tough. I learned in the church too, this saying that sacrifice is giving up something good for something better. And I had to believe in that. Like I had to believe in that. I put all my chips on that. And I bet on myself.

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  16. Within weeks, I'm now leaving my kids, and that was, I don't want to talk about it too much because I'll probably ball my eyes out, but that was probably the worst experience of my life And you can imagine I have two young kids that are younger than two. Had them come to my parents' house so that I could say goodbye to them. I had my Jeep. It was a 1987 Jeep Wagoneer packed with everything I had, literally all I owned. And I drove away from that house and I cried the entire way to Los Angeles.

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  17. I'm an emotional person, and I've gotten used to that, and I'm okay with crying. I think being exposing yourself to those types of things and being vulnerable is strength

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  18. Yeah. You know, I love that you're asking these questions because they're real to me. There's something about it that was so strong and profound that it felt like... I don't know, looking back on it now, it changed my life. That voice became a thing that I checked in with a lot because That day in the You got me talking about this getting emotional. But that day, it set a standard. So that was my yardstick Yeah, it was

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  19. Stopped in the stairway and I had goosebumps, and I turned around, and I was like, what was that? And I walk up the top of the stairs and I kind of stand there for a second and I'm like Oh shit, I have to leave. Like, I gotta go. Honestly, guy, I thought, you know what? Whatever that thing was that talked me in the stairway, I'm just going to keep moving forward in faith and hope that something works out

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  20. Yeah, there's a lot in there, actually, guy. You know, talking to my brother, I said, hey, what schools can I go to? And he said, well, there's only a few in the country, and they're not in Utah. So I'm looking around. I'm like, oh, there's one in LA. I didn't want to move to LA. And this is a really profound moment in my life. Was living in my parents' basement in the room I grew up in, getting ready in the shower, I showered. And I shut the lights out, got ready, and I turned to go up the stairs. As I'm halfway up the stairs, someone behind me says, Ready to say goodbye to your kids because you're going to leave for a long time and you have to go on, you're going to do a, you're on a mission.

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  21. I didn't like what the future looked like. I saw the people in that industry, including my dad, and I just didn't like that world. Yes, I knew how to work. I wasn't afraid of that. I didn't like that I worked for this company and they could fire me whenever they wanted to. The lifestyle, the grind. How quickly someone could take something away from you. As much time and effort as I put in and all the relationships I had, I didn't like that. And I were guys that were my dad's age who were getting let go. Now they have to go out and reinvent themselves. I didn't want that. There was the answer to that question guy probably is. There was nothing in the future of those paths that I was excited about.

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  22. Yes, all of that led me to think to myself, okay, if I'm starting life over, what do I want to do? I'd always wanted to be a chiropractor. My neighbor growing up was the chiropractor for the Utah Jazz, Craig Bueller, an amazing man, and I'd watch him work on Carl Malone and John Stockton with his hands, and I'd see him do these things. And I thought, I want to do that. So I thought, you know what? I'm going to be a chiropractor. In the meantime, my brother, my second youngest brother became a chiropractor. He had a successful practice. So I'm sitting in his practice. I'm like, his name's Kirk. I'm like, bro, this is awesome. Like, could I do this? He said, yeah, you may have to do some science things, but you could probably fast-track this and get done in three and a half, four years.

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  23. Know there's nowhere to go to learn these things. And so it just taught me how to deal with heartache, how to deal with deceit, how to deal with people that are not living in the same frequency that you are. It's taught me a lot of that and not to get down into that with them and just be a bigger person.

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  24. For me, you know what, for me in my life as I look back on it, I'm really glad that happened. You can't learn that stuff.

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  25. The sheriff came, made me get out of the office. I had to stand outside while he loaded all the carpet rugs, drove my forklift down the road. I went to court six different times to try and get that back, and every time that he showed that letter.

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  26. Not a good idea So, I'm focused on my business, and I got a call from one of our suppliers, and it was a company that I used to be a sales rep for. So I knew the person at the accounts receivable. And he said, yo, Jay, you're getting behind on things. I was like, oh, really? Let me go look at that. So I go to the office. And as I walk into my office, my business partner's wife's computer screen faced the door and I walked in the door and I saw the balance on the screen of the QuickBooks she had. And it was a lot. It was like $300,000 or something. And I'm like, that's weird. So I went over to his wife and I said, hey, have you been paying these bills? And she got really nervous. What had happened, guy? Is he taking that letter, gone and opened a bank account in the same name, and was depositing all of the checks into his account. So he was literally embezzling money from me, and I realized this in a day, and he turned on me.

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  27. And I had a business partner of mine that was a builder in the community who I was doing some work for. And we were sitting in my office one day and this guy came in and I was upset. I think I may have been crying. And he said, what's going on? I said, I think I'm probably going to have to get divorced. That's another story And he said, Hey, listen, why don't you write a letter of relinquishment to me? We'll date it as today. I'll put it in your drawer. We'll never take it out unless your wife comes after us for the money. And then you just say, I relinquish this to him. I don't have anything.

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  28. I put it all right back. I would buy him more inventory. I'd buy a trailer. I'd get a new truck. I just tried to put it back in there, hoping that I'd have a good... Yeah, I just remembering some things as you're telling me these things. I have to tell you this. So I had this is a really good experience, I think, for anyone listening. I had gotten married in 97. I had my son in 98. He was actually adopted because I was told they couldn't have kids. So we adopted my son Jesse. And then my wife at the time got pregnant with my daughter, which was a miracle. It wasn't for staff kids. And then she got pregnant. Right after she got pregnant, we were having some real struggles and we were contemplating divorce.

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  29. Yeah, and think about what was happening in Utah in the late 90s. It was booming. People are moving from LA. They had tons of cash. So there were hundreds of homes, and a friend of mine said, hey, let's open a flooring store together. So I thought, okay, let's do that. And my niche was custom flooring. I had access to these really amazing carpet options and people were spending a lot of money because they had the money and they wanted custom floors. And so there weren't many people that did that. And it was successful. My first year, I did a million dollars. It was crazy

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  30. Yeah, yeah. And I learned at an early age what an LLC was and what a business was, and how'd you have a bank account was different than your bank account. Those are all things I thought were a nuisance. I'm like, gosh dang, this is what I have to do. Looking back, it really helped me understand. It's really not that hard to set those things up.

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  31. Back up just a little bit too. My mom's family had a farm. And being around that world, you had to be resourceful. You had to learn how to do things, make things. You're out in the middle of nowhere in a field, and you need a tool. You can't run to Home Depot. Learning that as I grew up, when I got into the flooring world, I had a contract with Motel 6. We did up and down the West Coast Motel 6 is hundreds of them. I could lay carpet in a Motel Six room in less than five minutes.

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  32. No, I didn't. So when I came back from my mission, I was in the flooring business. So when I was growing up, my dad worked, had a really good friend of his that was a flooring store. And my brothers and I would roll remnants in this flooring store. So, I would unload pad trucks and I would load guys up with carpet. And so that was just my world as I grew up. And I started realizing that you could make like $400 or $500 a day doing that. So when I got back from my mission, I started laying carpet. And people talk about this in that industry where if you start doing that, it's kind of addicting because you get up early in the morning, you go out and knock it out and you're done by two and you got a thousand bucks in your pocket. Yeah.

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  33. And you're talking to hundreds of people They're just walking by you like you have the plague sometimes. But when I got back is when the real challenge started because I realized the commitment that you had to make required a very strong belief in those principles. And I learned at a young age that just wasn't for me. There was something more for me. But like I said, I wouldn't change it for the world. You know, I wouldn't take that away.

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  34. Literally, we do what we call street contacting, and I'd stand on the main street in Oslo, Norway. And if you got one person to talk to you or one person to take a Book of Mormon, that was a good day.

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  35. Yeah. Yeah. I had a badge on, said Elder Worsland. I wore a white shirt and a tie, which I try not to wear anymore because I think I got my fill. But the fun thing for me is I got to be around my family. My grandpa was still alive at the time. He lived in Norway. I had a lot of cousins, aunts and uncles and things over there. So it was an amazing experience because I got to learn, really learn the culture of Norway, but it was hard because their culture there, man, they are not open to Western American sort of thinking. And here I am, this Norwegian heritage. I was so proud to be there and I walked up to the door and they're just like, you're a Mormon. Get off my doorstep.

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  36. Have a scripture. And then there'd be a lesson. And the lesson could be about humility or character or confidence. I remember many times when I was growing up, my dad used to get the wooden spoon and you'd hold the wooden spoon like a microphone and he would teach you how to talk. And then as you got to be 12, one of the sort of icebreakers into the church is that you would get in front of the whole congregation and you'd give a talk on Sunday. So giving your talk when you're 12, 13, 14 years old, that was a big deal. I mean, those are really fond memories. My family and my brothers and sisters are my best friends. Yeah. I tell people all the time, growing up, I wouldn't change the way I grew up. You know, I went on a mission

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  37. Around 6 p.m. every Monday night. It was time to come in. My dad actually had a whistle. And he'd stand out on the back porch and just whistle that, and he'd have us line up right by the banister of our stairs. And then we'd sit down and it was, you'd open with a prayer.

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  38. Yeah. Think about this. It was the cheapest jigsaw you could find. The vents on the side of this Kawasaki jigsaw, when you started it and you stopped it, you let go of the trigger, sparks would fly out. So that was my first iteration. But guy, people were buying them as fast as I could make them.

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