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Jay Carney

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“You never say never because I never saw myself in public life. I had the best job imaginable working for the best people you could have worked for in the best experience. It's hard to see it, but who knows”
2018-03-01 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 221 - Jay Carney · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And he knows that. I mean, this is somebody who's been through a lot in his life. And as he said, keeps getting up, especially when those things are hard that knock him down. But, you know, I don't know what he's going to do. I wouldn't mind seeing him in the position.”
2018-03-01 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 221 - Jay Carney · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Is he going to run? I don't know if he will. I honestly have no idea. And I have chatted with him, but I don't think He's decided, but it's for him to obviously say. But I think he's a profoundly good person and a profoundly good public leader and would have made a great president if he had been called upon or if he had run last time and won. happy if he were president. But that's a, running for office is such”
2018-03-01 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 221 - Jay Carney · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And that was a decision made a long, long time ago to invite others to sell in the Amazon marketplace that if you read the histories of it, a lot of people thought was crazy. It's like, why would you invite somebody into your store and compete with you directly and you're going to treat them the same way? Same display, same access to your customers and the thinking was because that's what the customer wants. And it was a big bet and it worked out right. And that long view is something that still infuses sort of the culture and decisions that Amazon makes as it decides what new thing to try or what. And sometimes the new things are really small, like iterations on existing businesses or customer experiences. But it's always about what's going to look like in four or five years.”
2018-03-01 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 221 - Jay Carney · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Right. And it's funny, I remember talking about his long view once in the briefing room from the lectern. And then that memory came back to me when I was having gotten to Amazon and absorbing the culture a little bit and this sort of willingness to be misunderstood that Amazon has had this sort of what are they doing why would they invest in that isn't that kind of crazy you think about the sort of when you go on to amazon.com a little known fact more than half of what you see is not Amazon it's somebody else it's another seller a lot of small and medium sized businesses thousands and thousands of them”
2018-03-01 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 221 - Jay Carney · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“People ask me a lot about, especially President Obama and Jeff Bezos so different, or maybe they're the, you know, what are the differences or how are they similar? And they're obviously very different. But one way in which they're similar is they take the long view. And you know this, of course, working with President Obama that there were times when we'd go running to him and say, you should do this, you should do that. And he'd say, no, it's like, we're going to get killed if you don't. No. It's because he had a... A sense of where he wanted to go and wasn't worried by the day-to-day”
2018-03-01 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 221 - Jay Carney · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Very, very interested in what it's going to be and wanting to help have ideas. And right now we're just taking it and promising people we'll get back to them because we don't, we're still building it out.”
2018-03-01 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 221 - Jay Carney · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“It's fair to say that we think that it's a problem that needs some solutions and that it's worth trying to find them. That's really the approach that he takes and the businesses take. Different endeavors. Like, why does Amazon do this thing and not that? And partly, it is there a customer need that isn't met or is poorly met? And is there something we can bring to it, like some idea we have or approach we have that might solve that problem or Take care of that need. We don't necessarily know going in. But, and again, I'm not on the business side. These folks who are much more articulated.”
2018-03-01 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 221 - Jay Carney · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I think we have to see how this initiative unfolds because we wouldn't pretend to say we wouldn't for a minute say, and we certainly couldn't say that we have the answers now.”
2018-03-01 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 221 - Jay Carney · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I'll be honest, and you saw it in the press release that came out after that announcement, I think all three companies, and I can only speak for one of them, see this because of the size and the number of employees as a challenge that everybody's facing in terms of the growing cost of healthcare and the need to somehow get a hold of those costs while maintaining and improving care. And the three companies came together to see if collectively we might be able to come up with some solutions that attack that problem. That's pretty much it at this stage, just really early days. And I think we're very aware and humble about the fact that this is a challenge that has bedeviled policymakers.”
2018-03-01 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 221 - Jay Carney · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Companies like ours that have become recognizable and have some scale, we do have a responsibility to be part of the solution when it comes to dealing with some of that economic disruption that's in general out there. A program that I can't take credit for because it predates my time at Amazon that we do in our fulfillment centers. It's called Career Choice, which we prepay tuition, 95% of tuition for fulfillment center employees to take classes and get certified in different areas and high demand fields, often fields that take them outside of Amazon if that's what they want. So going to get a nursing certificate or a commercial driver's license, truck driver's license or something like that. We prepay the tuition because a lot of programs, great programs, reimburse, but for a lot of folks, getting that money up front is hard. So if you prepay it, they're much more inclined to adopt and take those courses. And I think that.”
2018-03-01 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 221 - Jay Carney · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I think that every time every time that there's a change in The way that we conduct our business that it can be disruptive, but that's always been true before e-commerce and going back to malls and big box stores. And will be true in the future. And the amount of competition in this space is fierce. The fact is retailers are doing really well in America right now, not just us. And I think there's opportunity for a lot of economic success as long as obviously the overall global economy and the American economy continue to expand and do well. I think that getting to your question that”
2018-03-01 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 221 - Jay Carney · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Pretty much without exception, those jobs, even the lower wage jobs in our fulfillment centers are higher paying with much better benefits than the alternatives that might be available to the folks who are working in those jobs. And one of the things that I'm really gratifying for me is our, and this starts from the top with Jeff, is that our benefit structure is completely egalitarian. If you start working in a fulfillment center, starting level job tomorrow, you get the same health care that I get. And that means that our benefits, which have to compete with the tech companies, are really good and there's not a comparison with other retailers.”
2018-03-01 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 221 - Jay Carney · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Very integrated into our customers' lives, and we're grateful for that. One thing that has happened in the last several years has been a resurgence of independent bookstores in America, like a double-digit increase year after year. I think that some of the disruption that you talk about in the retail markets has been due to malls and other kinds of big box stores as much as the evolution of e-commerce. And one thing that we, I think, do bring that's really important to remember is we're one of the fast biggest job creators in the United States right now, as well as obviously outside the United States. And we hire up and down the economic ladder across the country. And I think we announced a year ago, a little over a year ago, that we'd be hiring 100,000 people in America in the ensuing 18 months.”
2018-03-01 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 221 - Jay Carney · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Are misunderstood, I think, about Amazon because the company is involved in so many different businesses that it often appears to be deeper than it is when it's just, it's got more scope, but not necessarily depth. I think one number that I don't think is accurate in terms of the size of e-commerce of which we're a big player relative to the overall size of the retail market is very, very small. We are still much smaller than some of the biggest retailers out there like Walmart, much smaller. And when we made the announcement around the acquisition of Whole Foods, by some of the press, you would have thought we were taking over grocery in America, but combined were less than 3% of grocery, all the big change are much bigger, as is Walmart and others. But we are in a lot of different businesses, so it feels like, you know,”
2018-03-01 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 221 - Jay Carney · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I mean, Jeff's instincts on core issues about the sanctity of the First Amendment, about the need for an independent media. You go to Washington's website.”
2018-03-01 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 221 - Jay Carney · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“No, he saved the Washington Post. Well, I would just say, again, it's not Amazon and it's not my job. But as somebody who cares about this, what he did that was so important is he brought his, obviously he financially helped it, but he believed that there was an economic model that could keep the Washington Post vibrant and profitable. And he wasn't sure exactly what it was, but he believed that we could be found. And I think that gave that institution a lot of hope. And then, of course, they have a philosophy.”
2018-03-01 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 221 - Jay Carney · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Journalism. Just as somebody who actually grew up here, and the post was my hometown paper, I mean, David, you may recall this. I certainly do. There were times when there was a bad story in the Washington Post when we were in the White House, when we would console ourselves by saying that's okay, nobody's going to read it. Right. Now, that was exaggeration, but the paper was not what it had been. No”
2018-03-01 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 221 - Jay Carney · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“So it's just so viewer. I mean, listeners know this is the Washington Post not owned by Amsterdam. There's some concern. It's one of the small things owned by Amazon. That's not true. But Jeff bought it, and Jeff Bezos, the CEO of Amazon, bought it, and he owns it separately. Yeah, I've talked to him about it, but I don't get involved in...”
2018-03-01 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 221 - Jay Carney · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I admire reporters who are doing this well because it's really hard. I mean, they're under so much pressure to say something about everything, to report something new every minute. And so that when I see people who are reporters who are doing incredibly responsible work that requires a lot of reporting and a lot of checking and a lot of backtracking and maybe like following a story in directions they didn't expect, I admire that. And I really think that the reporters I talk to in what I guess pejoratively would be called the mainstream media, what I would call the legitimate media. Who are, I mean, I think they feel good about the fact, and they should, that their calling is more obviously essential than I think it's been in a long time. And because some of our institutions are in question. Including the freedom of the press”
2018-03-01 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 221 - Jay Carney · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“For all the right reasons of Fox or Jonathan Carl at ABC or anybody else, you know. Fox would use that to our disadvantage. And that's why I realized that I had, more importantly than anything about how I felt about it was that you can't do that because in the way you've poorly served the president and not done your job well. So the times that I did lose it, I didn't lose it, but times my agitation showed were regrettable for that reason. And there were times I was sure unfair to reporters who were legitimately asking the tough questions and I got frustrated. But there were also times when... You know, I shouldn't have done it, but man, did they deserve it?”
2018-03-01 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 221 - Jay Carney · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, I definitely regret anytime I lost my cool at the podium, which wasn't often but happened because it's easy in the room to win that exchange. You're on the high ground, literally. You control the room more or less. And it feels good. But when you watch it on Fox, it's terrible. And you realize you just did your boss a disservice by making yourself the story. Or like anytime I got into it with Ed Henry.”
2018-03-01 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 221 - Jay Carney · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Lot about myself as a reporter in becoming press secretary in particular and working with reporters who were doing the job that I had done. And I don't think I came out that well in my own estimation. I realized that I could have been a lot better.”
2018-03-01 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 221 - Jay Carney · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, the thing that I got most frustrated with In the room, you know, it's become theatrical, it become confrontational, and adversarial is important now more than ever, we know that that's important. It's not supposed to be a cozy relationship. It's supposed to be tough questions. Spokesman's supposed to be put on the spot. And anybody who stands up there to answer questions for the president from the president on down should be put on the spot. But I got frustrated by the sort of theatricality of it. And often, I think some of my frustration, and maybe I should go back and tell some of the folks that I got mad at that what was happening too, was I saw myself in some of them and I saw that there were times when I was a White House reporter that I chased the same ball down the field everybody else was and made more of a story than probably it deserved and hyped it and took the easy way out as it were instead of doing something less glamorous and making extra phone calls and really digging and doing the reporting I learned a lot”
2018-03-01 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 221 - Jay Carney · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I did. When I learned more about it, I talked to the president about it when we later visited the folks who participated in the mission. And I mean, this was not a call that just anybody would make. The consequence, obviously, of being wrong could have been enormous. They were already significant in terms of Pakistan and relations with other countries. But imagine if the thing had gone really awry or that bin Laden wasn't there and none of that was known for sure, not even close to... For sure. And the president made a very lonely and difficult decision. And I'm just grateful it turned out the right way.”
2018-03-01 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 221 - Jay Carney · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, he was a senior person on the national security team. And I remember complaining to my wife, really, I got to go in. I don't know what's going on. And of course, when I got to the White House on Sunday, it was extraordinary news. I remember sitting with David Pluff, your colleague and mine and friend in my office. And Dan Pfeiffer and just absorbing this. And with Ben and absorbing this news and what it would mean and also what it would. What it would mean for the country cathartically, given what had happened in 2001 on 9-11. And something that we really felt that later that night when the president spoke and the crowds were outside. And it was just an incredible feeling of closure, I think, for a lot of people.”
2018-03-01 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 221 - Jay Carney · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Very little. I was on the trip. With the president The weekend, that day trip, I guess, on Saturday, when he authorized the mission in that morning. Before he left. And of course, we didn't know. I mean, two absolutely appropriately. And political people just didn't know what was going on until I got an email from Ben Rhodes on Sunday telling me to come in. I'm like, really?”
2018-03-01 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 221 - Jay Carney · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Just ever when it wasn't, and then I remember people asking me what did you do when the president asked you to say something wasn't true? I said, it never happened. It's inconceivable to me that it ever would have happened. I mean, this president, this meaning Barack Obama Would never have asked me to do that. And I know we never asked anybody else to do that because he knew that, you know, You know, the path from there is not, you know, it's just the road to ruin when it comes to credibility. For things that matter more than the individual, the Presbyterian or the president.”
2018-03-01 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 221 - Jay Carney · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Obviously, it's the wrong thing to do, but your credibility up there is just an extension. If your credibility starts to erode, the president's credibility starts to erode, the administration's credibility, the country's credibility. And what became obvious, both from the advice I got and then doing the job is, you know, there are uncomfortable questions that you don't want to answer, and you don't. You say, I can't answer that.”
2018-03-01 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 221 - Jay Carney · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“It's not a job I recognize. I couldn't imagine. That's like because I couldn't imagine myself being in that position, and I'm not morally superior. I just don't think I could do that. And I don't think, I mean, I spoke to almost every living predecessor before between the time I was announced and the time I first did a briefing as press secretary. And to a person, Republican and Democrat, they included among their observations of advice never lie.”
2018-03-01 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 221 - Jay Carney · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Think that simply reflected that I did keep it to myself. And I was so excited for the opportunity and did believe, found it remarkably easy to make that transition. And I think that what I tried to bring to it, and you did had this too, having been in journalism, is an understanding of journalists and what their motivations were. Because I think one of the risks that always happens in political campaigns in White House and probably senators' offices and things, especially if you're in the spotlight, is when you start getting bad press, you assign motivations to the press corps, members of the press that are probably inaccurate and much more Malign than the truth is. And you have to”
2018-03-01 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 221 - Jay Carney · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I do think they are. I think that there's some A net negative. I think there's some upside to having people be, like you get to see them for who they are perhaps or what their perception is and maybe biases are. But I think that it has blurred the line between those folks in my day and the print world who are columnists and wrote opinion columns and then the rest of us who wrote and reported straight up news, which is I've never argued that the so-called objective members of the mainstream media were without blinders on some issues or without biases. But I mean, I remember when I went to work for the vice president and somebody, the New York Times wrote a story about me magazine Washington Bureau Chief leaving journalism to go do this and they quoted a colleague of mine at Time magazine, Joe Klein saying, I always thought Jay was a Republican. And I...”
2018-03-01 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 221 - Jay Carney · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I remember speaking with Tony the day after the election, congratulating him, and we had this conversation about maybe you should come in. And I was thinking, oh, Russia, maybe I'll do something in foreign policy because my background. And he mentioned that the vice president-elect was going to be looking for a communications director. And that started a conversation which suddenly, a few weeks later, led to me leaving Time magazine after 20 years and journalism after 21 and going over. Journalists to go to your point asked me like, isn't it hard? Like now you used to be able to say whatever you want. Now you have to toe the line. I said, you know what? It's the opposite because I'm aligned with. President, the vice president, and the team, but I used to not be able to say what I wanted. And now I actually get to say what I wanted to do.”
2018-03-01 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 221 - Jay Carney · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Policy aid to the vice president. Became Deputy Secretary of State and plays a mean left handed guitar. And he's a very close friend. But I, as a journalist, and obviously there'll be lots of people who doubt this or criticize it, but I was old school. I wasn't an advocate as a reporter and wasn't looking to join an administration, but as a human being and as a citizen and a voter, I was incredibly excited about Barack Obama. And having had a strong relationship with John McCain in the past and respect. You covered McCain's and I respected him a lot.”
2018-03-01 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 221 - Jay Carney · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“The dark side well, you may remember I adapted pretty quickly and partly because, well, it wasn't a plan. I didn't, I mean, I like to joke that I ended up having this incredible experience because I'm in a really crappy garage band with Tony Blinken, whom Tony Blinken.”
2018-03-01 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 221 - Jay Carney · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Everything else gets decided by, and so again, I have a lot of time for folks who have been in that situation. I mean, in every administration leading up, I mean, I fundamentally believe. With some exceptions through the years, but certainly in my lifetime, for the most part, the people who serve are there for the right reasons. They're trying to do the best they can based on their own view of what that means in terms of policies. And there have been exceptions. Obviously, Nixon White House and the like, but mostly it's been, you know,”
2018-03-01 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 221 - Jay Carney · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And what I took away and what I remember telling people when I had the privilege of being there and then being in those rooms. Working for the president was that You're struck by how fundamentally human and small the enterprise is, that in the end these momentous decisions are made, the hard ones, of course, are made by one person, one leader, but even the ones that are debated and discussed, it's just a handful of people trying to do the best they can with limited information, often making choices between bad and worse and not really being sure which is which.”
2018-03-01 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 221 - Jay Carney · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“That whole time because of the live TV on Air Force One, we were watching the towers burn and then come down and wondering where we were going. And the reporters on TV were saying the president's coming back to Washington, but we banked left. We headed west and ended up in Louisiana at Barksdale Air Force Base. It's just a hard day, terrible day for everyone. I have over the years imagined having served a president and been in the White House and been in some difficult times just imagined how profoundly challenging that would have been for the president, for everybody on that team.”
2018-03-01 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 221 - Jay Carney · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“The White Yes. And then I do believe because before we left that room, we knew that the second tower had been hit and it wasn't an accident. And as you recall, then the bigger press corps, including us, went into the, I think it was a cafeteria or gym where he was going to give an education speech and he came out and said, we've been attacked by terrorists. I'm going back to Washington. And then in ways that you and I would never have experienced otherwise, I did as a reporter, but not in the Obama years, thank God, like we loaded that motorcade and took off for Air Force One and then took off on Air Force One like vertical blur like straight up.”
2018-03-01 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 221 - Jay Carney · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“White House people staff and famously leans over and tells President Bush what had happened And we, I honestly can't really remember what we knew as then the president, we in the pool as the president was finishing reading to the kids.”
2018-03-01 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 221 - Jay Carney · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, yeah. And I have to say, I've always liked some of the narrative around did he take too long. I mean, I actually think he handled that very well. Suddenly, people still had pagers back then, and also because Bush was particularly not happy when people's phones went off. Everybody was on Vibrate. And suddenly the room started vibrating. And it was all the journalists' phones and pagers going off. And then Andy Card walks in.”
2018-03-01 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 221 - Jay Carney · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“You know, just sort of just so you know. And then we all pile into the classroom. President comes in, there's a rope line, it's just the pool, so I don't know, 14, 15 people. And President Reeds, President Bush reads to those kids. And then back then.”
2018-03-01 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 221 - Jay Carney · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Early in his term. Right. And he had had a defection from the Republican Party in the Senate. He was, you know, conservatives were unhappy with him. People were calling for Donald Rimsel's head as Secretary of Defense. Of course, none of us saw any of this happening. And the next morning, we get in the motorcade because I was in the pool, so staying in the president's hotel and we load into the van and we get out at the school. And walking into the school and as it, you know, having read the histories, that's when Condy Rice, who was National Security Advisor, found out as she was, I think in the motorcade too, and that something had happened at one of the World Trade Centers. And we were rushed into that room where the president would then read to the school children. And somebody from the Bush press office said, by the way, guys, just so you know, a plane hit one of the World Trade Center towers. We think it was a Cessna.”
2018-03-01 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 221 - Jay Carney · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“It was, I remember the night before I had dinner, we were down in Florida, and I was the Time magazine White House reporter. I happened to have pool duty for this trip. And back when time, I don't know if they anymore do, but back when we actually footed the bill for sending a correspondent on those kinds of trips. And I had dinner with a senior White House official in the relatively new Bush 43 White House. And the whole conversation was about, if you remember back then, was he fittering away his presidency? Yeah, it was a deeply.”
2018-03-01 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 221 - Jay Carney · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, I remember when you and I, the early days in the White House, I was working for the vice president and you were there. And we had a lot of, like some of the most frustrating critics were on the left. I'm super proud about President Obama's progressive legacy. And did he make compromises? Yeah, because he wanted to get things done. Otherwise, first of all, you don't get there and you don't get anything done.”
2018-03-01 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 221 - Jay Carney · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I mean, you know this better than I do, but the success in governing requires compromise. And it requires, and then the political side of success in governing requires explaining and selling that compromise as a victory for the people you were trying to help. And it was, and it is.”
2018-03-01 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 221 - Jay Carney · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Conservative tiger, and then the tiger ate him. He's tried to recast himself over the years into whatever mold he thinks is the right one for, I guess, his own ambitions and purposes. But he was considered, like, because he cut some deals with Bill Clinton. That was too much for some of the members that he had brought in and whose mentality he had nurtured. And you see that with the Tea Party, right? You see that with this what they created? Is this what the so-called leaders of that movement?”
2018-03-01 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 221 - Jay Carney · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“For good, unfortunately. And what's funny to remember is that a lot of the leaders of the Republican Party who helped nurture this movement then were eaten up by it, right? Because they sort of created something that then decided they weren't pure enough or crazy enough or whatever. And he was one of them. He was thrown out largely because he wasn't considered.”
2018-03-01 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 221 - Jay Carney · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I once sat in a room with Nuke Gingrich when he was speaker where he described himself in all sincerity as a world historical transformational figure. No modesty there. And he was out. It's hard to get”
2018-03-01 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 221 - Jay Carney · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“What's also striking is that the Soviet Union and similar type countries had always been propaganda and agitation had always been part of one of the tools they use. But that seems so antiquated as a mode for an increasingly sophisticated world population, especially in developed countries. As it turns out, they were able to adopt that approach or adapt it rather to modern tools of communication masterfully in heinous and hideous ways. And we see the power of disinformation and propaganda, fake news. Real fake news. Real, you know, right, yeah, the actually fake news. And they've run rings around us in the way that they've taken those tools and used them against us.”
2018-03-01 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 221 - Jay Carney · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source