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  1. That's true. I've watched other people ride in the rocket and I'm more nervous than I was inside the rocket myself It was a difficult conversation to have with my mother when I told her I was going to go on the first one. And not only was I going to go, but I was going to bring my brother too. This is a tough conversation to have with a mom.

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  2. We have done a tremendous amount of ground testing, a tremendous amount of simulation. So a lot of the problems that we might find in flight have been resolved. But there are some problems you can only find in flight. So, you know, cross your fingers. I guarantee you'll have fun watching it no matter what happens.

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  3. 100% I've you know every every launch I go to you know for New Shepard for other vehicles too I'm always nervous for these launches but yes for sure a first launch to have no nervousness about that would be you know some sign of derangement I think so

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  4. Oh, the first launch. I'm very optimistic that the first launch of New Glenn will be in 2024. And I'm just not 100% certain what payload will be on that first launch.

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  5. In 2024 Yeah, I think so. For sure, the first launch, and then we'll see if Escapade goes on that or not. I think that the first launch for sure, and I hope Escapade too. Well, I just don't know which mission it's actually going to be slated on. So we also have other things that might go on that first mission.

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  6. That's an inventor's greatest dream. Is that their inventions are so successful that they are one day taken for granted? You know, nobody thinks of Amazon as an invention anymore. Nobody thinks of customer reviews as an event. We pioneered customer reviews, but now they're so commonplace. Same thing with one-click shopping and so on. But that's a compliment. You invent something that's so... Used so beneficially used by so many people that they take it for granted.

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  7. I want to do it. Take my Amazon winnings and use that to build heavy infrastructure so that the next generation, you know, the generation that's my children and their children, those generations can then use that heavy infrastructure. Then there'll be space entrepreneurs who start in their dorm room. That would be a marker of success when you can have a really valuable space company started in a dorm room. Then we know that we've built enough infrastructure so that ingenuity and imagination can really be unleashed. I find that very exciting.

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  8. And that's why when you look at the internet, by the way, another giant piece of infrastructure that was around in the early, taking you back to like 1994, people were using dial-up modems and it was piggybacking on top of the long distance phone network. That's how the internet, that's how people were accessing servers and so on. And again, if that hadn't existed, it would have been hundreds of billions of CapEx to put that out there, no startup company could have done that. And so the problem, you know, you see if you look at the dynamism in the internet space over the last 20 years, it's because, you know, you see like two kids in a dorm room could start an internet company that could be successful and do amazing things because they didn't have to build heavy infrastructure. It was already there. And that's what

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  9. Yes, it's one of humanity's grand challenges. And especially as you look at going to the moon and going to Mars and building giant O'Neill colonies and unlocking all the things, I won't live long enough to see the fruits of this. But the fruits of this come from building a road to space, getting the infrastructure. I give you an analogy. When I started Amazon, I didn't have to develop a payment system. It already existed. It was called the credit card. I didn't have to develop a transportation system to deliver the packages that already existed. It was called the Postal Service and Royal Mail and Deutsche Post, and so on. So all this heavy lifting.

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  10. You see what I was saying? It's like there's nothing easy about this business. But it's its own reward. It's fascinating. It's worthwhile. It's meaningful. And so I don't want to pick on salty snack food companies, but I think it's less meaningful. At the end of the day, you're not going to have accomplished something amazing.

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  11. Yes, I mean, I don't want to make it sound like any of it is easy. I mean, the people who are designing the engines and all this, all of it is hard for sure. But the challenge right now is driving really hard to get to rate manufacturing, to do that in an efficient way. Again, kind of back to our cost point. If you get to rate manufacturing in an inefficient way, you haven't really solved the cost problem and maybe you haven't really moved the state of the art forward. All this has to be about moving the state of the art forward. There are easier businesses to do. I always tell people, look, if you are trying to make money, start a salty snack food company or something, you know, you write that idea. Make the lex friedman potato chips. You know,

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  12. You could think of the first article as kind of pushing it pushes all of the rate manufacturing technology along. In other words, it's kind of the test article in a way that's testing out your manufacturing technologies.

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  13. Designing the vehicle in the first place. And the same thing. So every upper stage has two BE3U engines. So those engines, you know, if you're going to launch the vehicle twice a month, you need four engines a month. So you need an engine every week. So you need to be, that engine needs to be being produced at rate. And that's, and there's all of the things that you need to do that, all the right machine tools, all the right fixtures, the right people, process, et cetera. So it's one thing to build a first article, right? So that's, you know, to launch New Glenn for the first time, you need to produce a first article. But that's not the hard part. The hard part is everything that's going on behind the scenes to build a factory that can produce new glens at rate.

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  14. The first launch is one thing, and we'll do that in 2024 coming up this coming year. The real thing that's the bigger challenge is making sure that our factory is efficiently manufacturing at rate. So rate production. So consider if you want to launch New Glenn 24 times a year, you need to manufacture an upper stage since they're expendable every twice a month. You need to do one every two weeks. So you need to have all of your manufacturing facilities and processes and inspection techniques and acceptance tests and everything operating at rate. And rate manufacturing is at least as difficult as

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  15. Right. And when you invent a better way, you make the whole world richer. So, you know, whatever it was, I don't know how many thousands of years ago, somebody invented the plow. And when they invented the plow, they made the whole world richer because they made farming less expensive. And so it is a big deal to invent better ways. That's how the world gets richer.

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  16. Of access to orbit, which is if you can do that, you open up a bunch of new endeavors that lots of startup companies, everybody else can do. So that's one of our missions is to, you know, be part of this industry and lower the cost to orbit so that there can be a kind of a renaissance, a golden age of people doing all kinds of interesting things in space.

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  17. Even in terms of, and I'm talking about cost, you know, space flight, getting into orbit is a solved problem. We solved it back in, you know, the 50s and 60s. The only thing interesting problem is dramatically reducing the cost.

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  18. There is, and we know how to do that right now, we're going to work on manufacturing that second stage to make it as inexpensive as possible. Sort of two paths for a second stage. Make it reusable or work really hard to make it inexpensive so you can afford to expend it. And that trade is actually not obvious which one is better.

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  19. Second stage is expendable. Second stage is liquid hydrogen, liquid oxygen. So we get to take advantage of the higher specific impulse. The first stage lands downrange on a landing platform in the ocean comes back for maintenance and get ready to do the next mission.

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  20. Yes. When you need something that needs to have 100% integrity until it needs to have 0% integrity, it needs to stay attached until it's ready to go away. And then when it goes away, it has to go away completely. You use explosive charges for that. And so it's a very robust way of separating structure when you need to.

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  21. And with Fricks and Stir Welding, the welds are just as strong as the bulk material. So it really allows you, because when you're, you know, let's say you're building a tank that you're going to pressurize a large, you know, liquid natural gas tank for our booster stage, for example. If you are welding that with traditional methods, you have to size those weldlands, the thickness of those pieces with that knockdown for whatever damage you're doing with the weld. And that's going to add a lot of weight to that tank.

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  22. Exactly. So with traditional welding techniques, you may have whatever the underlying strength characteristics of the material are, you end up with weak regions where you weld.

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  23. It literally stirs the two pieces. There's a pin that rotates at a certain rate and you put that pin between the two plates of metal that you want to weld together. And then you move it at a very precise speed. And instead of heating the material, it heats it a little bit because of friction, but not very much. You can literally immediately after welding with stir friction welding, you can touch the material when it's just barely warm. It literally stirs the molecules together. It's quite extraordinary.

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  24. And we can build these incredibly light, very stiff fairing structures out of carbon composite material that they could not have dreamed of. I mean, the efficiency, the structural efficiency of that material is so high compared to any metallic material you might use or anything else. That's one aluminum lithium and the ability to friction stir weld aluminum lithium. Do you remember the friction welding that I showed you? This is a remarkable technology. This invented decades ago, but has become very practical over just the last couple of decades. And instead of using heat to weld two pieces of metal together,

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  25. Surprisingly, some of Rocketry's greatest hits have not changed. They are still, they would recognize immediately a lot of what we do today. And it's exactly what they pioneered back in the 60s. But a few things have changed. The use of carbon composites is very different today. We can build very sophisticated. You saw our carbon tape laying machine that builds the giant fairings.

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  26. Yeah, I play a little kind of game sometimes with other rocket people that I run into where are the things that would amaze the 1960s engineers? Like what's the change?

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  27. We are building these enormous machines that are harnessing enormous amounts of chemical power in very, very compact packages. It's truly extraordinary.

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  28. In fact, most ocean, you know, most launch pads are on beaches somewhere in the ocean side because you want to launch over water for safety reasons. Yes, you have to drive pilings dozens and dozens and dozens of pilings, 50, 100, 150 feet deep to get enough structural integrity for these very large. Yes, these turned into major civil engineering projects

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  29. And so just these things become major undertakings both from an engineering point of view, but also from a construction and cost point of view.

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  30. Drive inefficiencies. And so, you know, if you have a very large turbopump, those gaps and percentage terms end up being very small. And so there's a bunch of things that you end up loving about having a large rocket and that you end up hating for a small rocket. But there's a giant exception to this rule. And it is manufacturing. So manufacturing large structures is very, very challenging. It's a pain in the butt. And so, you know, it's just, you know, if you have, if you're making a small rocket engine, you can move all the pieces by hand. You could assemble it on a table. One person can do it. You know, you don't need cranes and heavy lift operations and tooling and so on and so on. When you start building big objects, infrastructure, civil infrastructure, just like the launch pad and the, you know, all this we would.

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  31. And so that's just parasitic mass that is very consequential if you're building a very small rocket, but is trivial if you're building a very large rocket. So you have the parasitic mass thing. And then if you look at, for example, rocket engines have turbopumps. They have to pressurize the fuel and the oxidizer up to a very high pressure level in order to inject it into the thrust chamber where it burns. And those pumps, all rotating machines in fact, get more efficient as they get larger. So really tiny turbopumps are very challenging to manufacture and any kind of gaps between the housing, for example, and the rotating impeller that pressurizes the fuel. There has to be some gap there. You can't have those parts scraping against one another. And those gaps...

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  32. I mean, when you look at the kind of the physics of rocket engines and also when you look at parasitic mass, if you have, let's say you have an avionics system. So you have a guidance and control system, that is going to be about the same mass and size for a giant rocket

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  33. Your tanks, your liquid hydrogen tank gets very large. So you get more benefit from the higher ISP, the specific impulse. You get more benefit from the higher specific impulse on the second stage. And that stage carries less propellant so you don't get such geometrically gigantic tanks. The delta 4 is an example of a vehicle that is all hydrogen. The booster stage is also hydrogen. And I think that it's a very effective vehicle, but it never was very cost effective. So it's operationally very capable, but not very cost effective.

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  34. And that engine is also going to power the first stage of the Vulcan rocket, which is the United Launch Alliance rocket. Then the second stage of New Glenn is powered by two BE3U engines, which is a upper stage variant of our new Shepard liquid hydrogen engine. So the BE3U has 160,000 pounds of thrust. So two of those, 320,000 pounds of thrust. And hydrogen is a very good propellant for upper stages because it has very high ISP. It's not a great propellant in my view for booster stages because the stages then get physically so large. Hydrogen has very high ISP, but liquid hydrogen is not dense at all. So to store liquid hydrogen, if you need to store many thousands of pounds of liquid hydrogen,

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  35. Sure. New Glenn is a very large, a heavy lift launch vehicle. It'll take about 45 metric tons to LEO, a very large class. It's about half the thrust, a little more than half the thrust of the Saturn V rocket. So it's about 3.9 million pounds of thrust on liftoff. The booster has seven BE4 engines. Each engine generates a little more than 550,000 pounds of thrust. The engines are fueled by liquid natural gas, liquefied natural gas, LNG, as the fuel and LOX as the oxidizer. The cycle is an ox-rich stage combustion cycle. It's a cycle that was really pioneered by the Russians. It's a very good cycle.

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  36. In a different domain Are a thousand ways to be smart, by the way. And that is a really like when I go around and I meet people, I'm always looking for the way that they're smart and you find it is that's one of the things that makes the world so interesting and fun is that it is not it's not like IQ is a single Dimension There are people who are smart in such unique ways

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  37. There's something there, and that is intuition. Because it's really easy to kill new ideas in the beginning because they do have so many easy objections to them. So you need to kind of forewarn people and say, look, I know it's going to take a lot of work to get this to a fully formed idea. Let's get started on that. It'll be fun.

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  38. 100% right. In fact, when I come up with what I think is a good idea, and it survives kind of the first level of scrutiny, you know, that I do in my own head. And I'm ready to tell somebody else about the idea. I will often say, look, it is going to be really easy for you to find objections. This idea, but work with me.

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  39. When I sit down at a meeting, I don't know how long the meeting is going to take if we're trying to solve a problem. Because if I did, then I know there's some kind of straight line that we're drawing to the solution. The reality is we may have to wander for a long time. And I do like group invention. I think there's really nothing more fun than sitting at a whiteboard with a group of smart people and spitballing and coming up with new ideas and objections to those ideas and then solutions to the objections and going back and forth. So sometimes you wake up with an idea in the middle of the night and sometimes you sit down with a group of people and go back and forth. And both things are really pleasurable.

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  40. It's such a good question, and I honestly don't know how it works. If I did, I would try to explain it. I know it involves lots of wandering. So, when I sit down to work on a problem, I know I don't know where I'm going. So to go in a straight line, to be efficient, efficiency and invention are sort of at odds because invention, real invention, not incremental improvement. Incremental improvement is so important in every endeavor and everything you do. You have to work hard on also just making things a little bit better. But I'm talking about real invention, real lateral thinking that requires wandering. And you have to give yourself permission to wander. I think a lot of people They feel like wandering is inefficient and, you know, like.

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  41. That's very kind. I'm an inventor. If you want to boil down what I am. I'm really an inventor. And I look at things and I can come up with atypical solutions and then I can create a hundred such atypical solutions for something. 99 of them may not survive scrutiny. But one of those 100 is like, hmm, maybe there is maybe that might work. And then you can keep going from there. So that kind of lateral thinking, that kind of inventiveness in a high dimensionality space where the search space is very large, that's where my inventive skills come. That's the thing if I self-identify as an inventor more than anything else.

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  42. I think the mathematical skill required today Is so high. You have to be a world class mathematician to be a successful theoretical physicist today. And it's not, you know, you probably need other skills too, intuition, lateral thinking, and so on. But without just top-notch math skills, you're unlikely to be successful.

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  43. He said, Oh no, that would be impossible. A few years ago, I solved a similar problem, and I could map this problem onto that problem, and then it was immediately obvious that the answer was cosine. I had a few, you know, you have an experience like that. You realize maybe being a theoretical physicist isn't what the universe wants you to be. And so I switched to computer science and that worked out really well for me. I still enjoy it today.

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  44. And we said, Yosanto, we're having trouble solving this partial differential equation, would you mind taking a look? And he said, of course, by the way, he was the most humble, most kind person. And so he took our problem and he stared at it for just a few seconds, maybe 10 seconds. And he said, cosine. And I said, what do you mean, Yosanta? What do you mean cosine? He said, that's the answer. And I said, no, no, come on. And he said, let me show you. And he took out some paper. And he wrote down three pages of equations. Everything canceled out. And the answer was cosine. And I said, Yosanta, did you do that in your head?

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  45. And there was a guy named one of these people who was convinced me he didn't mean to convince me, but just by observing him, he convinced me that I should not try to be a theoretical physicist. His name was Yosanta. And Yosanta was from Sri Lanka. And he was one of the most brilliant people I'd ever met. My friend Joe and I were working on a very difficult partial differential equations, problem set one night. And there was one problem that we worked on for three hours. And we made no headway whatsoever. And we looked up at each other at the same time and we said, Yo, Santa. So we went to Yosanta's dorm room and he was there. He was almost always there.

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  46. But I really was determined to be a theoretical physicist. That's why I went to Princeton in the first place. It was definitely. And then I realized I was going to be a mediocre theoretical physicist. And there were a few people in my classes, like in quantum mechanics and so on, who they could effortlessly do things that were so difficult for me. And I realized like, you know, there are a thousand ways to be smart and to be a really theoretical physics is not one of those fields where only the top few percent actually move the state of the art forward. It's one of those things where you have to be really just, your brain has to be wired in a certain way.

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  47. So I loved physics and I studied physics and computer science and I was proceeding along the physics path I was planning to major in physics and I wanted to be a theoretical physicist and the computer science was sort of something I was doing for fun. I really loved it. And I and I was very good at the programming and doing those things, and I enjoyed all my computer science classes immensely.

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  48. But Blue Ring is not designed to move humans around, it's designed to move payloads around. So we're also building a lunar lander, which is, of course, designed to land humans on the surface of the moon

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  49. Amount of radiation tolerant compute on board Blu Ring. And your payload can just use that when it needs to. So it's sort of all these services. It's like a set of APIs. It's a little bit like Amazon Web Services, but for space payloads that need to move about an Earth vicinity or lunar vicinity.

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  50. And reserve your chemical propulsion so that you can change orbits quickly in geosynchronous orbit. Or you can use the chemical propulsion first to quickly get up to geosynchronous and then use your electrical propulsion to slowly change your geosynchronous orbit. Blue Ring has a couple of interesting features. provides a lot of services to these payloads. So there'd be one large payload or it can be a number of small payloads. And it provides thermal management, it provides electric power, it provides compute, provides communications. And so when you design a payload for Blue Ring, you don't have to figure out all of those things on your own. So kind of radiation tolerant compute is a complicated thing to do. And so we have an unusually large

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