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“A publicly traded multi billion dollar corporation. He said you need a business plan and you need to understand what you're doing from a company standpoint, what your margins are, actually how to run a business. He's having to split the cost of my business guy. He's going to come sit in your office, watch what you do every day, and then write a report.”
2017-10-02 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 177 - Jeff Roe · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yep. Yep. So I went 90 days without a client. I had $50,000 I'd saved up I hired three people right out of the gate because I was going to have a huge company. And I remember the girl came in who still works with me 13 years later. She came in and she was talking kind of loud and she said, Jeff, we have two weeks to pay roll. We have thirteen thousand dollars in the bank and seventeen thousand dollars in bills. And I said, don't ever say that out loud again. It's going to work out. Just don't ever say where the others could hear that maybe they're not going to get their paycheck. And so I finally got a client, I got a big Senate race, local state senate race, and they started paying and we scratched it out. And a friend of mine, who just recently passed, who took his company from nothing to a”
2017-10-02 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 177 - Jeff Roe · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I was free. So, I controlled all the voter contact. I got to do, you don't talk about an outlier, the book Outlier. I essentially got to do 100 races without threat of being fired. And they had to really take my advice because we were providing the funding.”
2017-10-02 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 177 - Jeff Roe · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“As a gift to those candidates before McCain Feingal, he spent a million bucks on state ledge and county and city council and School board, like he was building a party where none existed, and I did all that.”
2017-10-02 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 177 - Jeff Roe · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, I had done it for free for Sam. Sam had this very, when he was a state rep, when he first ran for state representative, nobody helped him. And so he had a philosophy that he should help those beneath him. It would serve two purposes. One, it would help raise the boats of all the boats.”
2017-10-02 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 177 - Jeff Roe · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“So I bought a house, and I just didn't want to go backwards. And so then I started my political company and didn't have a name, didn't have an, I just figured everybody start pouring invoices and paying me. And it was a much different experience. At the beginning, none of your friends hire you. And it takes 90 days to get a client. And at first,”
2017-10-02 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 177 - Jeff Roe · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, it's great deal. So I left and I kind of scratched out on a pad. Like, how am I going to make a company work? I just didn't want to go too far backwards. I bought a house and Liberty 11, which is a precinct in Liberty, Missouri, which was the swing precinct in these swing county that I was talking about earlier, the bush won by one vote, in the Swing Congressional District and the Swing State in the whole country. So I moved right there, bought a house there.”
2017-10-02 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 177 - Jeff Roe · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“You want to go to dinner any night or a sports game, like you do all that stuff. I wasn't wanting for tickets. I made 120 grand or 30 grand. I made 20 grand on the outside. It's pretty high cotton for a guy that was slopping hogs, you know, a few years earlier.”
2017-10-02 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 177 - Jeff Roe · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“There was a lot of Missouri in politics, really. In politics generally. Yeah, Abram Hoff was just what was happening and wrapping up, but they hadn't put in the end.”
2017-10-02 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 177 - Jeff Roe · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“As I'm walking upstage, I said, I don't think they heard me. You want me to do that again? She said, nope, you were just right on time. And so driving back, I thought, you know, I could probably use my tools to send somebody that maybe they would want to speak when the train's not passing.”
2017-10-02 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 177 - Jeff Roe · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Representing the congressman. That's right, reading a letter on his behalf. Inside one hundred fifty three to one hundred fifty seven or something was my speaking slot and I thought that's perfect. There's a bandstand. The tire tracks with the railroad tracks with a guard with arms cross he was behind us. And so I go up at 153 and I no more get two senses into my speech and here comes the train rolling through and everybody's clapping and I'm looking around and speaking and awaking me. At about 156 had finished up, and I said, Thanks. And I said, Hey, you want me to?”
2017-10-02 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 177 - Jeff Roe · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“You know, I didn't I enjoyed the, I have a small part of me has a servant's heart, so I do enjoy the casework opportunities we had and actually solving problems for people. Not trying to be corny. I mean, that part of it was okay, but I wasn't that interested. We had a freshman member in a swing seat, so he got legislation to pass and how it all works It was just pretty vanilla. I actually like the Missouri legislature a little bit better. There was actually, you could actually draft an amendment and put it on the floor and put a Democrat a bad spot or... Enhance your position. But there it was pretty vanilla. But I spoke at an at grade bridge crossing. We'd gotten $250,000 for a railroad crossing arm to come. Specific on my speaking time, and there were senators there and the other elected officials. And so I was speaking from”
2017-10-02 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 177 - Jeff Roe · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, I went back and forth. Even then I left to do redistrictine and then came back and I left to do a special election to fill his seat and came back.”
2017-10-02 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 177 - Jeff Roe · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“How the campaign is structured and the work ethic that it takes to involve it, I think, is probably. 2.7 to 3.2% impact from a ground game. I'm not talking about that. I'm actually talking about the sheer willpower of getting an executing on a mission. And so I don't think I couldn't live with myself if I didn't have every point and a half of that in my camp.”
2017-10-02 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 177 - Jeff Roe · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“That's tough, man. Too many profiles of me, probably. Having children helps with that, by the way, I try and stay between the eights now 54 eight in the morning. I don't do it unless they're already responding and I can call them. After 8 o'clock, unless it's an emergency, I try not to. But we have our company's growing now. So on a campaign, yeah, the wheels are off on a campaign. Whatever it takes to win. And I think that winners do what losers won't do. It's hard to work on a weekend in the fall when it's nice football weather, and it's hard to come in after church and work a good, solid day on a Sunday when everybody else is off. It's just hard to do that. There's a toll that it creates and a price that you pay for doing it. But in a campaign, I believe it's like, I think it's a differentiation”
2017-10-02 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 177 - Jeff Roe · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“No, yeah, yeah, a long time before. You know, I think it's probably, I don't know any other industry, so I don't know as factual as I would like, hope that it would be. But I think it's one of the few industries where you actually can work yourself into success. I think that you strip away all the advantages that people have in life. Disadvantages, and when you get on the playing field in front of the rigors of democracy, it is hand to hand and there's nobody, there's no advantage to this that you have. There's no institutional advantages. And I'm not talking about money race and all that sort of stuff or doors knocked. I'm talking about you can actually work yourself into success in politics.”
2017-10-02 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 177 - Jeff Roe · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And so Sand looked at me. He goes, Did I win? I said, yeah, you're going to win. And he said, you know, be my chief of staff? And I don't have any other officers.”
2017-10-02 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 177 - Jeff Roe · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“We knew for Sam that if we could lose Buchanan County by less than three thousand votes, we would probably win. And they walk in literally within thirty seconds of each other, one Green County, but not by enough. We lost Buchanan County by about 1,500 votes. And I look at Todd. Todd looks at me, he says he's going to be a freaking congressman. And I look at him and I said, Am I writing your speech? Are you writing his speech? Like, how are we going to work these speeches out? We had not prepared for a winner or a loss.”
2017-10-02 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 177 - Jeff Roe · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And he'd come all the way through them, and he lost that race for treasure, and he became the U.S. attorney. But Sam, the interesting story on election night, we knew that we had to win Green County, which is Springfield, Missouri. We had to win it by more than 19,000 votes. And it came in at about 17,5. And they're both Sam's on one side, Todd's on the other. We have two whiteboards, TV in the middle, this in 2000. So we're watching presidential election results, the whole thing.”
2017-10-02 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 177 - Jeff Roe · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“He had a very good political operation. And then in 2000, Pat Danner, who was the incumbent congresswoman, retired after the filing deadline. And that created an open seat with a weak deadline to file one week from the time that she submitted her resignation. and her son Steve Danner, who is a political figure, was a state senator, he was running, and so it became instantly one of the bigger races in the country. And I was running at that time Sam's brother, Todd's race for state treasure. We've been in the race for a year. And then Sam's race opens up. And so it was my first general consulting, I guess, of doing more than one campaign. We had good people on each team, and I tried to. Shuttle in between. And Todd is more the operative. He had been politics for a long time and worked for Danforth and Bond and all the central figures.”
2017-10-02 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 177 - Jeff Roe · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I was 26 25 2 And then he ran for reelect and won pretty decent race. The governor's legislative director moved home and ran against us. The governor was Mel Carnahan at the time.”
2017-10-02 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 177 - Jeff Roe · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Overarching, and then we have a yellow pages. A big book of yellow pages, white pages, and I'm looking up every Farm Bureau member cross-referencing on this piece of paper that I'm writing it out on a literally a big chief tablet. And so Sam comes out, the candidate, and he says, Hey, I'm really sorry. He said that I said, well, if I'm going to look up phone numbers, I'm just going to be the best phone looker upper you've ever had And that's, I think, how the campaign happened. And how I learned. And I think in government service the same. And I really enjoyed, I was secretary for him. I started out as a secretary in the Senate office. There's three staff members. They have about $100,000 budget. And after the first year, the chief of staff, I jokingly call it chief of no staff, left, and I became the chief of staff. And held.”
2017-10-02 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 177 - Jeff Roe · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I think I was there's a guy actually in that campaign that was never paid. He was an unpaid guy. His name was Jim Nibe. He's since passed. I think I just did everything he told me to do, and I tried to make it good. But a story that tried to make it better. But a story that Sam says that Sam tells is fairly embarrassing, so I'll share it with all your listeners, is I want the first strategy meeting of the campaign was happening. And so they convened the meeting. And of course, I'm getting the coffee and trying to sit in the corner of the room to stay. And the guy that was kind of in charge of the campaign said, get him out of here. I don't know. He could be a plant from the enemy or whatever. So I go out in this long hallway in this big open room and sit, and there's a green, you know, kind of those famous.”
2017-10-02 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 177 - Jeff Roe · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yep, at the end of the campaign, I was probably what you'd called. I mean, this is a state senate race. We spent about $300,000. Our opponents spent, you know, two and a quarter. So is a midsized race. We probably put Couple hundred of that in direct voter contact, and we probably had knocking around money of fifty thousand or so for grassroots. And you ended up running that.”
2017-10-02 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 177 - Jeff Roe · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“That's right. So we won in 94. I thought I was a genius. I later realized that every Republican won in 1994. And so I went to the state capitol in Jefferson City. With him. With him. So”
2017-10-02 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 177 - Jeff Roe · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Just finishing college. And we went on a road trip together across the top of the district. And I get in the car. I don't know what to say. And here's a state representative who I think is not no offense to state representatives. But at the time is probably the most important person I've met. And I tried to just make conversation. I'm trying to ask people what I should bring up and talk to him about. And I said, like sports. And he said, no. And I said, well, what do you think about this other politician? He's like, I really don't care about that. And he puts his seat back and sleeps for five hours. Wake up and go to the event, come out of the event. And I said, well, that was really good. He said, yeah, I really didn't like it. It was kind of boring. Puts a seat back and sleeps the rest of the way. So we've been sleeping”
2017-10-02 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 177 - Jeff Roe · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And so he hired me, I think Hired is probably a loose term for it. He paid me occasionally. The first day we were ever together. We had a long night fraternity house and he had to wake me up and come up to my room to wake me up.”
2017-10-02 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 177 - Jeff Roe · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“He's a good friend. He was in my wedding. We've had a long relationship together. We can finish each other's sentences. We're just very good friends, much more than politics. But I wanted to get in politics, and he was a state representative in the far northwest part of Missouri and a state senate seat opened up. And my home territory, my hometown, was in the very far southeast part of the district, sixteen counties in northwest Missouri, 154,000 people, and so he ran in an open seat in nineteen ninety four. I'd kicked around on a couple other campaigns, just putting up yard signs and driving them around. But he was my first one where it paid me enough to put gas in my car.”
2017-10-02 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 177 - Jeff Roe · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Endure a lot of carnage. It's not clear to me how loyal they are to their leader. And so if Maybe there's some things outside the typical chain of command that would happen from a military exercise. But absent that, I don't see it's a bad situation.”
2017-10-02 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 177 - Jeff Roe · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, I don't think I only know what I read. And when I talk to smart people, I talk about it doesn't seem like there is a natural conclusion of this. It's very positive. It seems like we would have to take some extreme measures. And as you point out,”
2017-10-02 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 177 - Jeff Roe · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“He's just a ride on top of each other, and most of the population. South Korea is in the northern half of the country, and so it would be. Devastating quick, and there's nowhere to go.”
2017-10-02 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 177 - Jeff Roe · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, this would be Like Northern Virginia attacking DC, but just take the water out of the way. I mean, it is right there. And it is. Literally, the train is a little bumpy, but it would be hundreds of thousands of casualties instantly. And that's without using any nuclear weapons.”
2017-10-02 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 177 - Jeff Roe · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, at that time when they would beat into our head, we were to train on a howitzer. Essentially, if they decide to attack, you don't. And they talk about the minutes that you have. We'd the word fire drills. I can't remember they called them something more interesting than that, where we had a minute and a half to get to our guns. This is when we were on Four Papa 3, which is the Live Fire Base, which is probably, I don't know. Probably five miles off the DMZ. Four papa three might be a little bit closer, but anytime a day, anytime of night, you had to drop everything and be able to have a round down range in a minute and a half.”
2017-10-02 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 177 - Jeff Roe · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, it is keep up programs in AT1 and 4PAPA 3, which at that time was a live firebase in Korea. And so spent a little time over there and came back and finished up the guard at a very small school in northwest Missouri.”
2017-10-02 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 177 - Jeff Roe · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“They both attended but not graduated. My dad went for a semester my mom went for a few. I didn't know how I was going to get that done. So I was part of it. Nobody had ever served in the military, mainly agriculture exemptions took care of everybody throughout. And so I think it was this intersection of what am I going to do? How am I going to do it? What's the easiest path? And it seemed like the end of the military was there. There was a 13 Bravo, which is a... 155 Howitzer Unit twenty five miles away in Chilicothe, Missouri, and shooting off a big gun sounds pretty cool this second week of basic training kind of took that out of me, but it seemed very exciting at the time. So I joined, had a $365 delayed entry, and then went to Ford City, Oklahoma after I graduated from, I graduated on a Sunday and left on the bus on a Tuesday”
2017-10-02 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 177 - Jeff Roe · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I think probably the scholarship opportunities, I wasn't exactly sure how I was going to figure out college. My family is very comfortable and very middle class, had a good jobs, but that wasn't my money, so I was going to have to do it myself.”
2017-10-02 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 177 - Jeff Roe · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I played La League and Pony League and all the way through until I started umpiring, which is like, you know, what people that can't play do.”
2017-10-02 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 177 - Jeff Roe · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“But yeah, I grew up with George Brett and Frank White and Amos Otis. And I mean, it was Steve Balboni. I have every baseball card of every Royal. My grandmother got me from 1973 to 1985.”
2017-10-02 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 177 - Jeff Roe · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, I was, you know, I was, my parents actually worked off the farm. My dad worked for the telephone company and my mom eventually became a postmaster in a nearby small town. So between the two of them, they knew the name and address of everybody in town. That helped a little bit for political reasons later. But she had, my mom stayed home with me until I went to school. And then my dad, when my sister was born 10 years later, retired early to stay at home. And so we were heavily involved and lived, you know, a few miles away from my grandparents' farm and were there every waking moment.”
2017-10-02 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 177 - Jeff Roe · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“So, about 100 acres of corn and soybeans, and then had, this is all before it became corporate, but we had about Three or four thousand by a hundred, probably fifty head of cattle, and at any given time one hundred pigs.”
2017-10-02 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 177 - Jeff Roe · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Her middle name is after my grandmother, so she was really instrumental in my life. So I probably did just because I did whatever my grandmother wanted to do. But it wasn't a big passion. We talked about world events at the dinner table. But it would just be as easily to talk about the royals or the chiefs than talk about world events.”
2017-10-02 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 177 - Jeff Roe · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“No, not necessarily. I mean, I love my grandmother and she's a world meant the world to me and still does. She passed. We name her our first daughter.”
2017-10-02 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 177 - Jeff Roe · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“So it was like 962 to zero. And so when you talk, when you look at the evolution and now Trump won it, I think by 14 points. So I think that migration has happened overall in rural areas around the country for sure. Specific to Missouri, I think it's the old. Union Confederate kind of battles that happen throughout the years. I really do think it's a pretty good chunk of that. Lynn County was Democrat all the way growing up. Now they don't have a single Democrat in the courthouse. And so it moved. And my grandmother was on the Republican women's auxiliary Republican women's club. And so she would drag me to fundraisers when politicians would come through town and go see the state auditor that was coming through. And did you want?”
2017-10-02 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 177 - Jeff Roe · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I think it goes all the way back to the Civil War. I mean, you have a county, Clay County, which is one of the larger counties in Missouri that. That bush one by one vote out of about roughly a hundred thousand votes cast one by one vote.”
2017-10-02 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 177 - Jeff Roe · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“So Lynn County, Missouri is still Mason Dixon line country kind of goes through there unofficially and Lynn County was a split lean Democrat county. Sullivan County, just to the north of it, is real Democrat. And then Putnam County, which is north of that, is the most Republican county in the state.”
2017-10-02 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 177 - Jeff Roe · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source