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Jennifer Welch

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  1. Thank you for having me, Kara. You're cool. I love talking with you, and I hope that we continue our budding friendship to many more episodes and collabs on and off the air.

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  2. I want to go with the Macy's Thanksgiving Day parade because I think New Year's Eve is past my bedtime. I like to be asleep by 9 p.m.

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  3. You have been lied to and used by the Republican Party. I would start branding them as liars that exploit people's faith, which is the most diabolical thing you can do and the most unchristian thing to do. I would get so aggressive about rebranding this Republican grift that has happened in red states. and speak to them and tell them what you're seeing, what is happening.

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  4. If I could sit down with the chair of the DNC, I would say you have to start a 50 state strategy immediately, even if you lose several cycles, it will make an impact. Look at the impact that Bernie Sanders has made. Every time he's run for president, he's lost, but his message permeates and he made the soil ripe for AOC for Zoran Momdani. I would tell them what's interesting about a state like Oklahoma and what's interesting about red state people is if you pull them individually on things or you for gun control. Yes, majority of Red State, Oklahomans would say this. Are you for a woman's right to choose? Yes. And so they need to start running progressive candidates that talk about values, progressive values. And I wish that they would send a Democrat to Oklahoma, rural Oklahoma everywhere. I said, you have been.

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  5. Liberals that have never lived in a red state try to focus group and workshop how to deal with red states. And part of that plan is to throw trans people under the bus or to throw women under the bus. It really pisses me off. It really, really, really pisses me off.

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  6. That's exactly right. So it doesn't work. And the problem with Ezra Klein throwing women under the bus as a person who just moved out of a state has a total abortion ban. Kara, there are so many women and this disproportionately affects the poorest, which then becomes the black and brown people of my state. go to get an ultrasound for their pregnancy 18 20 weeks and there's some debilitating issue with the fetus and they're told This baby is, if you, whenever you deliver it, it's not going to live, and there's nothing we can do for you. And so if they can afford it, they have to drive to a state where they can get health care. And if they can't afford it, then they're risking messing up all of their reproductive parts to deliver this baby and then watch it basically suffocate. And so when I hear.

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  7. Polite. And then he ran against this woman named Joy Hoffmeister. I can't remember the last name. Anyway, I voted for, helped campaign for. And she ran as Magalite, as a Democrat. And it doesn't work because the indoctrination of people in red states to be Republican is very intense and it's every bit as intense as to be a Christian. And they use this spiritual warfare type thing in churches to also say the Democrats are demons. They're demon rats. So you have to offer something incredibly different and weaponize their faith for good and say, would Jesus want us to fund all of these billionaires? And so that's why I think a candidate like Tallerico or Andy Breshir, who uses their faith in these instances, if you try to be a Magalite, you're not

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  8. So, the most recent gubernatorial campaign that we had in Oklahoma, you had Governor Kevin Stitt, who ran, he's a Christian nationalist. He dedicated every square inch of the state to Jesus Christ. I've met him.

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  9. If you criticize Israel, you're being anti Semitic. That is bullshit, that is emotional blackmail, that is incredibly toxic. We can see what they're doing. And the United States government is left behind on all of the other world's democracies and criticizing Benjamin Netanyahu. And we're supposed to be a beacon of democracy. But now we have this new alignment where the only time it seems like Kanks gets excited is when he's in the presence of fascist dictators. Look at what just happened with Saudi.

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  10. Try to get the tariffs removed. I want countries and journalists to criticize this fascist regime that is kidnapping people off the streets in our country. The same way I think we should criticize Israel. Benjamin Netanyahu, Mises according to Israeli press, he had cash driven into Hamas and we need this whole thing a spotlight needs to be shown on it and they can't hold us emotionally hostage by telling us

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  11. Well, I think that we have to have moral clarity about this, and we can't speak in any form of double speak. Democratic politician should very clearly say we support Jewish people and we stand against all forms of bigotry, period. However, when it comes to the Israeli government, that should not be attached to Jewish people in the same way. Any criticism of the Trump administration doesn't mean an insult to Americans that didn't vote for him. It's a very simple elementary argument that you can criticize Donald Trump and that doesn't mean you're criticizing Karis Wisher and Jennifer Welch. And as a person who believes in human rights, I welcome the criticism of my government. I wish Switzerland wouldn't have finally picked aside for the first time ever when they've been over and are making trophies for kinks.

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  12. I was really surprised at that. I was really, really surprised that nobody came to her defense, that his bullying is particularly of the press, has become so normalized that they just sit there and take that abuse like Stockholm syndrome, the people that follow him around. And it should never be normal.

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  13. Be like, are you fucking kidding me, you fat ass? You're calling me a piggy, you obese MFR. With your swollen ankles, are you for real right now? Maybe blend your makeup before you start trying to drag me. Go try to find a fat picture of me. Piggy one doesn't exist. I would just fucking go off. I would be horrible. Horrible. I would get arrested. Cash Mattel would arrest me, Kara.

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  14. Have to stop integrity politics and stop assumption politics, and we have to fight these people with everything in us and quit trying to set some moral high ground that no longer exists in this moment. Hopefully we can get back to that. But in this moment, no. Go dirty, talk about Bubba, blowjob.

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  15. Blah blah. And the fact that there's so much shit against this guy that Mark Epstein comes back out, Kara, and says, Hey, FYI, the Bubba guy wasn't Bill Clinton, but he doesn't deny the blowjob or that Putin has evidence of it. So if I were the Democrats, I would be beating the drum about this blowjob because here's the thing, this dictator is built on this masculinity. And now the dictator is frail. He's no longer a strong man. We're seeing the physical manifestations of his frailty. Tack on him giving a blowjob and also keep pointing to the fact that when he was on the campaign trail, he tried to give a microphone a blowjob with surprising familiarity to the procedure

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  16. Six. I think if I were a democratic strategist, my number one talking point right now would be the blow job with Bubba that allegedly Vladimir Putin has evidence of. We know the right wing has a very long attention span surrounding the subject of blowjobs. Look no further than Bill Clinton. That went on and on. New Gemridge Kinstar, they impeached him for it. So lean into this blowjob where it also ties in national security. And if I were a Democrat on Democratic strategist, I would say, you're telling me the president of the United States gave somebody named Bubba a blowjob and Vladimir Putin has evidence of it. Is that why he keeps bending over for Putin all the time? Because, oh my God, Kara, the big thing that I've heard forever my whole life living in a red state is, well, I believe in national security. I'm a national security Republican. It's this big thing. You support the troop.

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  17. And it offers an off ramp for the people that are still in it that the Epstein thing for a lot of people, their identity was this QAnon thing. They formed a sense of community and it's a noble cause to say we're fighting for the kids against these pedophiles. And then you find out the guy that you thought was going to whistleblow on the whole thing is Kanko's deep in the epicenter of it. You know? And then she's offering an off-ramp to say, look, I was in that too, but you still can be a conservative Republican so they don't lose their whole identity

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  18. Right. I mean, that's one that we could really ask what do you think of gay marriage? Do you think these people are going to burn in hell? Do you think the Supreme Court should overturn that? These are very, very, very important questions.

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  19. after he platformed, platformed Nick Fuentes. I didn't think Maggie could move further to the right They're going to go even more to the right.

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  20. Why did we give a blank check to Israel? Why are American taxpayers paying for this? They have free health care. They have free higher education. And we don't. We know the American electorate is okay with people being crazy and voting for them. They've done it twice with President Trump. And so Marjorie Taylor Green is doing a slight rebrand too because right now it's so toxic and so horrific. So there's a blending of Biden's 2020 campaign. We're going to bring you back to normal. We're going to lower the temperature. The problem for Marjorie Taylor Green is one of the biggest rise in the country right now besides anti-immigration bigotry is a rise of massogy. So I don't know if that's going to be too big of an uphill climb for her. And I do think Tucker Carlson is really paving the way to make a very crazy racist big tent with an assist now from the Heritage Foundation.

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  21. Okay, Marjorie Taylor Green, if you look at what she's doing, she's using the Trump playbook. She is coming out of the gates attacking fellow Republicans. That's what Trump did. Lion Ted, Lil Marco, low energy Jeb. Right. Who advised Trump to do all of this? By the way, all accurate. 100% spot on. Loved it when he did it at the time. I'm like, finally, somebody is browbeating these horrible soulless Republicans. She's doing the same thing right now. Steve Bannon advised Trump back in the day, and now he's advising Marjorie Taylor Green. She is doing an America first messaging, which if you're on your algorithm and you see a cat and you see a hot person and you see, you know, a tennis court and then you see Marjorie Taylor Green say.

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  22. And I think we need to start muddying up any heir apparent of the MAGA movement because they do such a good job branding Democrats a certain way. And I think they should be out nonstop Democrats beating this dementia thing. We know that media has it in them. Because they did it with Biden.

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  23. And the Democrats need to be everywhere all of the time, podcasts, mainstream media, saying to the American public, aren't you sick to death of this? Another day in America with a man who has dementia, who is cruel as all get out, who has tanked the economy, and they just need to keep hammering it over and over. And I do think the Democrats also need to be forward-looking. Like they're doing a really good job muddying up J.D. Vance. He's going to be on defense a lot with the couch fucking the eyeliner not standing up for his Indian wife or his mixed race kids and seeming to favor white nationalist talking points over the defense of his family

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  24. And why aren't the Democrats flooding the zone in reverse? Why are we not, and I agree with you, to act shocked that he tweeted what he tweeted yesterday is a level of willful blindness over what's happened in the last 10 years. I mean, this president incited an insurrection. We all saw it.

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  25. To vote against their own economic interests, but most importantly, to vote against the teachings of their alleged Lord and Personal Savior Jesus Christ, who sounds a lot more like the atheist Jew Bernie Sanders when he speaks than any of these MAGA politicians in these Red States.

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  26. Right. And he won twice. And for me, as an atheist, when I hear people talk about religion, any religion, we're just like, oh, God, but we live in a very religious first world country. And I know that they need to do this. And Andy Breshir isn't some crazy, wild-eyed liberal. I would say he's a centrist. But more than anything in our big tent, my thing is, I like to be Republicans. I like to win. I like for us to win elections because I know that if Republicans win, they will rain hellfire down on their citizens of these exploitative MAGA Republican politicians. Use the faith to weaponize against the voters because so many people in Oklahoma, their whole social life is centered around the church. And so the Christians signal, the same people that accuse us of virtue signaling, I'm going to accuse them of Christian signaling to get them

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  27. So, I think a really important lesson for Democrats is Andy Brashier in Kentucky. He is a Democrat that won twice, and he used his faith, which the Republican Party has put faith into the electorate forever now. The Democrats just

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  28. Right. I think that the Democrats, the ones that have some corporate stuff, they need to clean up are going to have to clean it up and they're going to have to go into their base. Because the autopsy that I see on this, on Kamala's election was the base didn't show up. And so we have the voters and we have the vote. And if we can wrap up a fuck you brand of politics, we're not leaving anybody behind. Yes, we're compassionate. Yes, we're woke because we're not fucking assholes and we're going to fight and nail for every single American and leaving no one behind. Not one person behind. And we're not going to kiss the ass of these corporations that dick you over. Don't have to pay taxes. I think that is the messaging, whether it's a little bit, you know, not quite as far left as Zoron, but that economic populist message.

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  29. Further left than a lot of mainstream Democrats in the electorate. But a way to handle that is to say he's a little bit further left than I am, but his electorate in New York City is further left than we are. And one thing that we have in common is his message of affordability. And then if the centrists, the Ram Emmanuels and other Democrats that want to pick up the trans community, throw them under the bus and ride over them, we need to really be crystal clear that we will throw nobody under the bus. And if you have an economic populist message, then you need to say, we believe in equality for everybody. Even somebody who is trans, and we will leave nobody behind in our plan, that's what MAGA does. MAGA leaves people behind. We're not cruel like they are. And I think there's a way that we could message that. But what pisses me off, Kara, is when I see Democrats.

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  30. It's exactly right. And I think I call these politicians pick me Democrats, pick me. I'm not going to say anything that offends anybody. And then in the process, they're just milk toast. And we need to have politicians that we agree with. And let's take the example of Zoron Momdani. He's probably...

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  31. And now I've shortened that to Little Smokey. You know, because it wasn't Couch. But he was a failed drag queen. And I think it's important to point that out. There's the photographs of he just wasn't good at drag.

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  32. You're concerned about trans people? I'm concerned about the Republicans Party obsession with trans people. Y'all talk about it all the time. I've never seen such transfessed people. And I wish that we would be more offensive in our strategy. And I felt like, and I love Kamala, but I felt like she was going to lose when she started trotting around with Liz Cheney. That's when I first looked at pumps and I said, this is a problem. These women are never going to vote for her. ever. We know these ladies. They're never going to flip because of Liz Cheney. And so I don't worry about that. And I think it's therapeutic to shit talk these bullies.

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  33. And this is the Democrats' Fool's errand that they think that they can get these people to change their votes instead of investing in their base. And if you're ever going to get these people to like you, it is going to be by being authentic and getting on offense and get off of defense, get completely off of defense. Offensively, we should be saying to these women that potentially I could offend.

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  34. Of people over the many years, we have a couple of talking points when we podcast, but we speak extemporaneously. And those just came up in the moment of filming. And, you know, Kengel's McTaco Tits, and then another episode, I shortened it to Kank's and I said just for spite. And Moses Mike Grinder Johnson, he was originally Moses Mike because there's this video of him talking about becoming Speaker of the House where he says, God woke him up in the middle of the night and said, hey, buddy, wake up, you're going to be Moses. And I'm like, we're acting like this is normal. This is crazy that he thinks he heard the voice of God and that God told him he was Moses. And then, of course, you know, there are a lot of grinder allegations about him. And so I threw that one in because I really love to just browbeat him. As far as turning off conservative women or moderate women, no, I'm not concerned about that because I know these women.

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  35. The ease in which you can move about. But in general, I think My personality type, I'm better suited in a big multicultural city. What's been so cool, Kara, yesterday I'm walking to the gym and this guy on a bike, brown skinned. I don't know Latino, Arabic, or whatever. He turns his bike around and comes. He goes, hey, lady, lady, I've had it, lady. And this happens like four or five times a day. And he said, can I get a selfie? And I said, yes. And he grabbed my hand and he said, thank you for fighting for us. It means everything. And I just think that's really cool.

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  36. They're so expensive and difficult to get. And in Oklahoma City, I can go every day on my lunch hour, podcasting or designing. I would go and play tennis and there's just something very therapeutic. I'm not that good at it either, but I'd hit with a pro, grunt as I hit the ball, pretend like I'm, you know, a professional and I'm nowhere near that. But I exercise every day. I miss the ease, no traffic.

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  37. Yeah. And I brought my dogs, my French bulldogs up here because I'm happiest in their company. And it's just been, my husband is going back and forth. He's a criminal defense attorney. And our marriage is very battle tested. I supported him through his efforts to get sober. And he's been so supportive of me. He's like, it's your turn. And we finally have a big kid relationship. And so that's been really cool.

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  38. And I just would felt like, God, I really want, I really want to live in a big city. And there's this stereotype that is thrust upon women. So many things are thrust upon us that we have to, roles we have to fill. And one of them is that when you're in empty nest or you're just sent off to the pasture, your eggs are no longer good and you're supposed to be somewhat depressed with your chickens out of the nest, etc, etc. And I thought, you know what? I'm going to run an apartment in New York for a year. Why not? Why not have a midlife gap year? Why not do it? Why do I have to do what society has put on me? We started a new career midlife. Why can't I sign a lease for a year and see if I like it or not? I might end up running back to Oklahoma City. I may end up staying and extending it. But why not try to do so?

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  39. So I had always wanted to, I longed to live in a big city. Every time I would leave Oklahoma City, and I love Oklahoma City, but every time I would leave.

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  40. Are you okay? And I knew it was an immediate Fox News. But in general terms, people are pretty polite. Nobody has ever said something to my face disparaging in Oklahoma. Oklahomans are very friendly people. I think a lot of the vitriol we see are keyboard warriors more than anything. But it really didn't change my life in Oklahoma much. Here's one thing. A lot of people, a lot of women, a lot of men that really surprised me that I thought for sure were Republicans come up and they whisper, keep doing what you're doing. I love every bit of it.

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  41. You know, it didn't have a whole lot of impact on our lives in Oklahoma. Oklahoma City is an exact microcosm of the whole United States electorate. We voted in our city just one percentage more red than we did blue. And so you have, and you know this from your family and having people in red states. If you're a blue dot in a red state, you're built a little different. You're a tough style of liberals. So I have a lot of fabulous progressive friends in Oklahoma. And I had this, you know, I still have the same friends now that I did before the podcast. Now, sometimes at basketball games, I would hear parents that I knew were triple trumpers that I knew were mega churchers would say something like, I was like, I'm sorry I missed the last game I was out of town. They would say, where were you? And I would say, oh, as in New York. And they would say, were you scared?

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  42. What do you think? She said, I just think so much of this has been bullshit. I did everything I was supposed to do my whole life. I did everything right and prayer. She was a good little girl and all of the things. And it was just like the title of our book, a shit sandwich. And so I called my mother after this and I told her, because my mother would always say, Jennifer, she's in her Dallas accent. She'd say, Jennifer, I think Angie's just darling, but as you all age, she'll become more religious. And I'm sure that you're, you know, go a separate way. So I told my mother that Angie had been in the process unbeknownst to me of deconstructing her faith with her psychotherapist. And my mother was so great. She said, Jennifer, you need to be really supportive because there's a lot of grief involved in this. Like she's grieving. It's like a death.

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  43. Jennifer, I need to tell you something really important. I've been talking to my therapist about, and Angie's never dramatic like this. And I was like, okay, what is it? And she said, after my dad died, I just don't think that he's in heaven. And I said, you don't think he's in heaven because he's in hell or you don't think he's in heaven because you don't believe in heaven. And she said, I don't believe in heaven. And she started crying because of the grief associated with that. And I just comforted her and said, you know, I love you. I know this has been a huge part of your life.

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  44. Yeah. And so sometimes I would pull away from her a little bit because the overt religiosity was so much, but she was so good. And finally respected the boundary. And we never got into it. We never had an adversarial conversation about it. Never. It was all very civilized, but I would just slowly start dropping hints. Like I remember we went to the dinosaur museum in Norman, Oklahoma at the University of Oklahoma. And we took our kids and we're looking at the dates of how long ago these dinosaur bones lived. And I said, isn't that something that this predates the Garden of Eden? And she would kind of chuckle a little bit. So we kind of had this tongue-in-cheek thing back and forth. But she called me about three years ago. And I'll never forget it. I was sitting in my interior design office and she called me and she said.

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  45. And I said according to whom? And she said, Well, the Bible. And it was just this insanity. And sometimes after something like that happened, all of my friends in Oklahoma, I had found solace in a gaggle of gay men because they had been kind of picked on and shamed by the same group of evangelicals that had been targeting me. And I'm a decorator and light clothes and, you know, gay men and I just get along. Perfect

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  46. So she had asked me to go to Bible study. I said no, pick me up after Bible study. We'll take the kids to the pizza buffet and then we'll take them to gymnastics. She picks me up. This is a lawyer and she pumps us smart. And she said, did you know that people used to live to be 950 years old? And I go, Angie, that never fucking happened. It never happened. People live longer now because of two things, filtered water and modern medications. Those are the two reasons we live longer. Nobody ever lived to be 950. She said, well, there wasn't disease in the Garden of Eden.

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  47. Well, like, here's a prime example, Kara. We went to take the kids to toddler gymnastics because you're always trying to run the toddlers out so they'll go to sleep at night. I get it.

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  48. Probably it would have because it was when I met Angie, we were in the exact same season. We both married to attorneys, both of these attorneys had a lot of interpersonal problems. We had kids the exact same age and we had fantastic chemistry and I really enjoyed her. But sometimes she would recruit me so heavily to go to Bible study and wouldn't respect the boundary because in her, and I'm not picking on her.

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  49. Right. So my mother was very fascinated by Sean's dad and his kind of economic decline, his mental decline, all of these things. So my mother spent, this is before the internet, spent time at the library and comes back. She says, Jennifer, she's real dramatic. She says, darling, I've diagnosed Sean's father. I believe he suffered from religious addiction. Here are these symptoms. And she's printed this article about religious addiction. And she's printed all the symptoms. And he had every single one of them.

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  50. Yes, so my very first boyfriend, his name was Sean, and I was just madly in love with him as every teenager is with her first boyfriend. And Sean's dad was a retired Southern Baptist preacher. And Sean's mother was very concerned that he was dating an infidel. So she bought me a precious moments Bible.

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