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Joe McLean
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“I would have listened to what when I first job when Bull markets are born on pessimism. They grow on skepticism. They mature on optimism and they die on euphoria. I would have listened because nothing's changed. And it's taken me a long time to not have any FOMO when it comes to investing, but I'm there. And I would have listened to a lot of his traits and quotes from back then because obviously he had lived them before me. I just wish I would have listened early days.”
2026-06-08 · Masters in Business · NBA Finals Bonus: MAI Capital's Joe McLean on Being the NBA's 'Money Whisperer' · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Coming in with this service mindset of nothing is beneath you. I did have a situation one time where an honors student came in as an early job with us and said, hey, I've been paying bills and bookkeeping for clients for the last six months. And I was an honor student at such and such college. Like this has been eath me. And I'm saying, well, last week I was cleaning gutters in a client's house because it was the first time them being a homeowner and we're trying to teach them how to manage a home. Nothing's beneath you. So I think if you just come in with built to serve with that service mindset, you're going to be successful in anything that you do.”
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“It does help to come with a sports background. However, it's nowhere near the most important trait. The more you can bring interesting experiences and knowledge to sports, the better. That was the example of Moneyball when a bunch of statistical nerds brought data to help drive more opportunities in sports and be more effective. So you could bring an outside perspective. However, I think whether it's getting into sports or anywhere else,”
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“I've been trying to watch one where they're dating the age is like 20 20 year difference I can't remember that one it's I became dumber every 20 minutes that I watch it”
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“My God, I can't remember the one I'm watching with my wife. We always have these rules where we have to watch them together. Yeah, outside.”
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“So I don't want to give much away, but it's sad. I like good cries on airplanes. I cry more on airplanes than anywhere else.”
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“My favorite book is always the one, like for me, it's whatever got you reading. I didn't read in college. I did what I had to do to get good grades and stay eligible. And my first book I ever read was John Grisham, was the firm. And it was, for me, it was, it got me excited to want to turn the page. And now I read as often and as much as I possibly can. I just can't get enough of it. But I always say for those that aren't reading, just read anything that would excite you. It could be a magazine. It could be a comic strip. Whatever gets you excited to start reading, start.”
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“Greg McNown, I think it's essentialism. Essentialism. Yeah, that's a great disciplined pursuit of less and getting rid of some of the inefficiencies that's in everybody's life. And you could end up doing more.”
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“Even when they don't believe in themselves. And so that's the power of being an ambassador. I think I highly recommend it for as many people as possible.”
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“In this level of safety and security, so many humans are stuck in. And if we can give them a reason to say no to a lot of things and a power of a plan to get them to some level of a connection, whether it's a human or professional, that was a great gift that he gave me. But I've found now over time that it's less just mentors and more just finding ambassadors for you. I see it with my kids as an example of I have a daughter didn't necessarily have great confidence in her stuff athletically and then just someone just took extra time to say you know if you did this and this I think you could be exceptional and it's like and then they work with you and it's just finding more ambassadors and that's just what I'm trying to do as an advisor is to be an ambassador on behalf of more clients it's super powerful it's not necessarily a mentor relationship but it's just I think the greatest gift you can give somebody else is your belief in them”
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“While at the same time always having a high level of humility. That was a great, great gift outside of all the basketball stuff and always being prepared. That was a great gift he gave us. Jim Escobito was the example at Franklin Templeton who told me, you don't know nothing about nothing. Which was great. And then as I began to get into understanding the mindset effectively having someone like Ken Heyman who really retaught me Mazo's hierarchy of human needs.”
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“My mom, for sure. She did whatever it took to raise three boys and then put me in the right situation to have an opportunity to be around Lud Olson. You know, something that Coach did. One of the great gifts that Coach Olson gave us was he made us go and public do public speaking at school. So we had to do sixth, seventh, and eighth grade when we were a freshman. And then sophomore year, you get started working your way into high school. And by senior year, you had to speak at a high school graduation. And so he brought in people to teach you how to communicate effectively. I had no idea the power of that over time once you get into the work world and the level of confidence it gives you.”
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“I just want to now interview a lot of these successful athletes that have been through, like Eli is an example, you know, had to come into New York and lead a city and have to understand the most important things to build trust quickly with his teammates and with his coaches. There's all these really built-in athletic things that are important. And then he came into an extraordinary amount of wealth and he had to manage it. And then for him, it's learning how to give money away the most effectively. And so the more I can just extract information from people that have been there and done that and just share that with everybody. It's a testament to what these individuals have done, but at the same time, we can all learn from them as well.”
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“It's a. For me, I was just hoping it's a gift to the next generation that's seeking information and get some quality information. So we see you now in the NIL world where I'll have a young person come to me and say, hey, Play in Oregon, but I'm going to set up my LLC in Texas because I have an aunt there because I read this thing on Instagram where I could not pay any state income taxes. There's information out there that's just not right. And so this whole idea of wanting each of these clients to be the person that someone walks to in their locker room and asks a bunch of questions.”
2026-06-08 · Masters in Business · NBA Finals Bonus: MAI Capital's Joe McLean on Being the NBA's 'Money Whisperer' · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Risk. Some clients' growth buckets were just in muty bonds for 10 years. Until they produce enough income to support your lifestyle. But that's a significant blind spot right now that nobody really knows what some of these things are worth, but it looks good on paper.”
2026-06-08 · Masters in Business · NBA Finals Bonus: MAI Capital's Joe McLean on Being the NBA's 'Money Whisperer' · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, let me, for a second, Overgeneralize what's happening. So in sports per se. So we went from spending money on materialistic things to overinvesting in private things. And so, yes, it's great. We're talking about how much we're saving, but it's also like I invested in this deal and I invested in this deal and I invested in this deal. And as you know, no one really understands risk until taking too much. And at that point, you truly started evaluating what that means. So I don't know if everybody understands yet as an investor all these things that we're investing in privately. You don't know how much it's worth. And so that's a significant blind spot for many back to those mental traits that we all have as athletes that we're willing to bet on themselves that there is no nothing that we're not willing to take risk on. That's not the trait that you want as an investor. Again, it's reminding that we don't need to take this type of risk.”
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“I help clients say no, but I say yes too much to doing other things. And that's where we have to remind, yes, you have a ton of access, but let's be most careful of your time and where you want to spend it. There are opportunities, I think, to own things, but to spread yourself out and be all over the world in these soccer teams and all that, it's an interesting, it sounds interesting, but I don't think it's effective.”
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“But just think about how you want to spend your time in retirement. Do you want to be spread out all over the world and having access to these things? Yes, but at the same time, you've got to go fulfill. You have an obligation to fulfill your time in these things. And so part of it is like, how do we simplify your life? I'm reading now my book for the second time and I'm still not good at it called Essentialism. I think it's called Essentialism. And that's the disciplined pursuit of less. Because I have a ton of user error in my life where I just say”
2026-06-08 · Masters in Business · NBA Finals Bonus: MAI Capital's Joe McLean on Being the NBA's 'Money Whisperer' · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I think the common ground is just be wary of your time. You start spreading yourself. It's very easy to look on social media and then you see someone owns three or four different teams and they're in the sale GP and then they have a Formula One race team and they're all limited partners in these things. It looks great.”
2026-06-08 · Masters in Business · NBA Finals Bonus: MAI Capital's Joe McLean on Being the NBA's 'Money Whisperer' · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Correct. I think that would be an extraordinary gift back to. The universe as to your mindset and what you believe in and the give back. It's important to have fill your time, right? Because having more meetings with people that are either executives or other coaches and whatever your aspect is, you have to start thinking beginning with the end in mind by the time you're 25 years old, even though you may play till you're 40 so that you can fall into that and make that transition back to what we started with with the schedule, the predictability, the accountability. You have that professional locker room in life that is established for that third bucket.”
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“People say be the CEO of your money. Like, I want you to be the founder of your money. We don't want the shirt sleeves, the shirt sleeves metaphor that everybody talks about. Let's think about that entrepreneurial bucket and where you think you could have great impact. Some of them may say, I just want to be a coach. I just want to coach my high school team.”
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“Sets you up not just for yourself but the future. Like we're not talking about going broke anymore. This is 100 year money. And so that level of estate planning that exists for a 22 or 23 year old now versus that net we never had that before. And so I don't think the asset allocation needs to change. It's just that entrepreneurial bucket will evolve over time. And so having that level of getting someone with the founder mentality, I don't know about you, but I love being a founder, being a CEO is not as fun. So I like having them.”
2026-06-08 · Masters in Business · NBA Finals Bonus: MAI Capital's Joe McLean on Being the NBA's 'Money Whisperer' · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“You have to be first thing that's changed the most is you have to be sophisticated from day one. So if you think when I was getting into the business in 2009 and 10, these contracts didn't exist and I knew enough to get clients into mutual funds and get them to save. These contracts are very big and they're early and they're coming fast. And so just from a level of planning and understanding how to build this one of our lessons is the next generation is watching. And so what are the decisions that we can make now that set”
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“So it's you send a checkbook. You know, here it is. Now you have to sign it. You see exactly how much you're paying for each of these transactions. It works.”
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“Dangerous. Even to that point, we've had clients where we've decided to have them write every check, pay every single bill. So they feel it.”
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“Make any sense. The scarier ones are in Vegas when you go to Vegas or you go to some of the other casinos and you learn the very first time what a marker is. And so what Vegas created with the markers is there's no exchange of money. It's just signing your name. And then inside that contract, it also says that they can reserve the right to go into your bank account and take the funds if you don't pay up. And so as you can imagine, when there's no exchange of funds and you just sign your name And it's a rabbit hole that you can go down. That's disastrous.”
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“Those are the ones where you use a little bit of fear and start sharing some stories that have happened to others and potentially getting blackballed. That's even investing or betting on your own sport, but just even getting anywhere near attached to it is something that could affect the growing wealth that you could create over time. There's a level of you can scare them with that for all of us. It's not gambling in sports, the amount of revenue. I don't think it's a great, it really isn't a great thing. No, it's pretty awful. And you have a whole...”
2026-06-08 · Masters in Business · NBA Finals Bonus: MAI Capital's Joe McLean on Being the NBA's 'Money Whisperer' · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Maybe I didn't get the client early enough to create behaviors. Gambling, mental health, all these aspects that are all over life and in the world are highly, they're all over sports too. And there's some people I just, you just can't save. And so those are some unfortunate situations where we did have to fire somebody.”
2026-06-08 · Masters in Business · NBA Finals Bonus: MAI Capital's Joe McLean on Being the NBA's 'Money Whisperer' · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“But I'm never going to disrespect you, so don't disrespect me. And at some point, I'm going to win, and sometimes you're going to win in terms of a level of compromise. If I would have had that, I think this would have gone better. It did not. It went really bad. And we were able to repair it over time. And I've had situations, unfortunately, where I just weren't.”
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“If you're going to say a great advisor is willing to get fired, you also have to prepare your clients for conflict, healthy conflict. And so I realize I never prepared to have this conversation with someone that I'm going to be brutally honest with each other. And so the two traits I found that you have to have to have this great professional conflict is you have to have mutual respect and you have to have compromises. And you have to take these conversations at advance. So now I have them in advance like, hey, there's going to be times where we disagree. And because I'm never going to give blow smoke. You have tons of yes people in your life.”
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“Literally, and who we're going to take care of financially and the ones that are outside the circle. Most of them were outside the circle. And they were really affecting this individual. So I was going to try to take them out, but do it verbally. And so I addressed it. And all of a sudden... I got called to the table for a meeting with the client and they came at me and said, don't you ever just come at my friends and this and that? And if this ever happens again, we're never going to work together again. And for me, this is the first time we're having some conflict. And I was ready for it. And I was excited to have this conversation because let's get real about what's happening. And even when you don't know what's happening. But the person was shutting down more and more. They weren't ready for conflict. And so.”
2026-06-08 · Masters in Business · NBA Finals Bonus: MAI Capital's Joe McLean on Being the NBA's 'Money Whisperer' · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Let me give you one where I almost got fired first. Okay. And this was one of my most important clients of the history of my career. And I thought I was doing the right things. And I still today think I was, but I was doing it the wrong way. So this was a situation where the client was just. Was a bunch of knuckleheads surrounding them. They were going to really affect that person's brand off the quarter field. And it was really starting to irritate me. And so I decided to take it in my own hands and address that personally with them, with the friends and with the family members. And I got into everyone's face and I was ready to take them down. And I look at doing trust planning for a client. I know who they love. And that's who's in the trust”
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“Out there other than You'll wake up next Tuesday. The old school guards back in the day, they would play their way into shape the first 20 games, right? Lord knows what they did all summer. Athletes summers now are just as physical and difficult as the seasons in terms of preparation.”
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“Between three and four year deals. Yeah. So if you're 21 by the time you're kind of 31 to 33, depending on your cycle of your contracts. You could have grossed a billion dollars. That's where Cooper Flags of the world Are trending towards Jalen Rose, Jason Tatum. That's where they're trending.”
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“So what are the things you can do now to be around in your fourth deal? It obviously extends beyond just being a good player.”
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“Take care of You show them that if you're in the NBA and you're a draft pick today and you get to your fourth contract, assuming a five percent growth rate of the salary cap, you will have grossed a billion dollars in contract value.”
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“No doubt. And so there's a track record there that others can turn to, LeBron James also being one of them, that they see the value in that investment. And they also see the risk of not investing in that, right? So I've had these discussions on the first contract when I look at, because I see the personal P&L on everybody when we're paying all their bills. And I could see, are we really still going to McDonald's? Like you're a crushing fast food constantly.”
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“That's unbelievable. But if you think about what the benefit of that players are playing to 35, 40, and beyond. Look at Tom Brady.”
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“And they'll all have to report to the client. Not to the team. So the team has these people and they're great people. However, they work for the team. And so we've had situations where clients have gotten injections and it's killed cartilage in their hip and it's eroded over time and all of a sudden now they're in a situation where they may not get the next deal. At a max contract, someone, they're going to be spending somewhere between $400,000 and a million dollars a year into their body.”
2026-06-08 · Masters in Business · NBA Finals Bonus: MAI Capital's Joe McLean on Being the NBA's 'Money Whisperer' · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Line I saw that cracked me up. Well, a couple things. You mentioned risk and injury. You cannot avoid this. And so there is a way to protect yourself over time. So it's now at this point, at this level of wealth, at the size of these contracts, you have to have your own doctors. You have to have your own trainers. You have to get information that comes directly to you, not through the team to you.”
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“What do we want it to be cost to be you when this contract's over? It's again back to that burn rate of how much you're going to spend in retirement because I'm assuming you're never getting another deal. So is it $2 million a year? Is it a million and a half? What is that number that we think you could live comfortably and obviously when you're, this is your 35 years old, this money has to last much, much, much, much longer. And so just going through that level of planning and giving them information so they can make better choices. But that is when this entrepreneurial bucket really kicks in. They've established a brand as a great player. Performance is the number one factor of their success financially. However, now there's an opportunity to really develop something that could be sustainable for 30, 40 years as an entrepreneur. And that's where we start identifying what philosophy they want to have in that sector.”
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“Right. And this is the entrepreneur one where we've got to keep filling the first two always know what it costs to be you. That's always January 1. Do you know what it costs to be you? And how do we make it cost a little less to be you if we can be smart with some of the savings in all areas?”
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“Again, back to now the three buckets still remain for the rest of their life. So you got to keep filling them. But now it's... This gets complicated. What's the goal here with this money? Is it just to save it and sit on it? Or now they're getting access to really interesting opportunities. They want to maybe own a team someday. So this is the third thing.”
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“So there's only death. So then there's a life insurance planning where both the team's trying to get the coverage on that person. And for their first 30 million, and then you're trying to get coverage. And if you're a big endorsement, there's other Coca-Colas and all these other Gatorades are all trying to get coverage on you as well to protect theirs. So there's a level of sophistication that they've got to start thinking through from a risk management standpoint.”
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“100%. So if you think about what you're describing, a 25, 26 year old on a max contract is probably making over $40 million a year. It's just talk through a couple things that are happening. It's a guaranteed contract if you're in basketball or baseball, even hockey to that extent. It's not guaranteed for death.”
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“I was a benefactor of losing all of my hard-earned money in Europe in 2000. So I was investing in mutual funds at $10 that went to $100 in these biotech funds and then March of 2000, everything went to zero. So it was a lesson I learned early not to be have concentrated, be all in one asset class. So most of the clients are fairly diversified.”
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“about their emotions, then they move to a more rational state. So it's just talking out loud. Let's talk through this. A lot of these athletes over the last couple years really haven't been through. Major market. 15 years of bull market went really back. I remember early days this happened and I had one player liquidate all their 529 plans because the market was down 15%. And that was obviously you know the mistakes that the consequences of that. But if you don't go through it, I was...”
2026-06-08 · Masters in Business · NBA Finals Bonus: MAI Capital's Joe McLean on Being the NBA's 'Money Whisperer' · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“So I think over time for me, the benefit has been introducing them to other people besides myself, first and foremost, other professionals in the markets and other asset classes that they can get on the phone with and understand really what the facts of the case are versus the noise around it. And typically every scoreboard we have is projected out through their entire contract. So what are the things that we can control versus the things that we can't control? So I always go back to that. Yes, the market's down. Let's say it's down 10%. What are the things we can control right now? Well, we can control our spending and our decision making and our attitude. And so those may be opportunities where let's look at our spending. Maybe we dial it back so that we may want to invest more over time. And it's opportunistic. These are all very rational things that, as you know, most humans become very irrational. And the more I've learned, the more I can get someone to talk about.”
2026-06-08 · Masters in Business · NBA Finals Bonus: MAI Capital's Joe McLean on Being the NBA's 'Money Whisperer' · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“You know what your social followers are. It's being a great teammate, being a great human, being responsible. You can have all these extraordinary experiences and say NCAA tournament. But if you're knucklehead off the court or off the field, there's going to be consequences to it earlier.”
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“If they don't have a base around them of that professional locker room that we talk about, reminding them first and foremost the number one priority is to be a great teammate because we've seen the scenarios where the quarterback makes $2 million and is disrespectful in the locker room and then all of a sudden nobody's blocking for you. That will happen so you get we saw it in the Super Bowl this year. Exactly. So if you don't think through those types of things and be aware of it and even like, you know, you maybe want to be contributed to that community and create, you know, create a donor advised fund with some of this money and give it away and bring awareness to what your brand is. Because your brand really is.”
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