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John Delaney

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  1. No, it was just a normal conversation. He basically said to us, listen, you're good people and the things you're going to fight for, we care deeply about. And even if we don't agree with you on everything, we'll pray for you. And that was how I believe it.

    2019-01-31 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 304 — John Delaney · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  2. Funny when I first ran for office, I sat down with my priest and I said, you know, Father, I'm going to run for office and I'm going to talk about a lot of things that I don't agree with my church on right now. And the first was marriage equality because it was a big issue in Maryland at the time when I ran for Congress because it was a referendum. They had passed marriage equality, but it was being challenged through a referendum process. So I was a strong supporter of marriage equality, and it was going to be a big part of my campaign. And he listened. And I said, and the other thing is women's reproductive freedom, I'm a pro-choice candidate and I fully support women's reproductive freedom. And we had a good conversation. Was this

    2019-01-31 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 304 — John Delaney · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  3. Yes. So, yeah, it's really important. And I think the part of my church I identify the most with is the social justice mission. And I think my church, the Catholic Church in particular, its best side is shown when it's helping the poor. And that's always been really important, April and I. And hopefully our kids.

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  4. Well, I think a lot of my social justice orientation in life, a lot of it comes from my faith, right? Because I did grow up in a Catholic family and church was important to us. We went to church. I lived a block from the church, right? So we would walk up the hill and go to church every week. My mother used to go during the week days for evening kind of events at the church. So she would take me around. So I was around the church a lot. Our faith's important to my wife, April and I. We have four daughters. We're active Catholics. We're very much involved in our church, particularly Catholic charities organizations like that. So I think a lot of my social justice orientation comes from my church. So it's a big part of it. I mean, in my opinion, faith is a good thing. I mean, running for president is a bit of a leap of faith.

    2019-01-31 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 304 — John Delaney · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  5. Workplace more just for so many people. And the fact that unions play less of a role in our country has also hurt the movement to make that stuff happen.

    2019-01-31 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 304 — John Delaney · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  6. But yeah, there's that. But everything that's positive that's happened to a worker in this country has largely been because of the labor movement. In other words, they're the only people in the country who work up every day and fight for workers every day as their sole mission in life. So if you drive down the highway these days and you see someone on the side of the road with a helmet and a vest, they're probably not in a union, but they're wearing the helmet in the vest because some union fought for those rights. And you go down the list, you know, whatever was starting with child labor laws, going all the way up through the 40-hour work week, whatever the case may be. And there's things we need in our society right now, like paid family leave and other kind of basic benefits to make.

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  7. Society because the one thing one of the reasons I'm a strong supporter of the labor movement is not just because I want workers to be represented through a union. But my sense is everything.

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  8. So we obviously need to do things to make it easier, in my opinion, for workers to organize. And so supporting unions at the local level so they have the ability to organize and dealing with that federally where the laws are relevant, but also making sure, in my opinion, states should have a legal framework where people can organize. And this movement for these, quote, right to work laws, I think has been very anti-union. But I think we've got to do more than that because I don't think just supporting unions is enough to change some of these trends. We have to get at this notion of capitalism and trying to make it more just and inclusive. Because the other problem with the diminished number of unions in this country is not only do you not have as many workers who kind of had the kind of benefits my dad and my family had growing up. But you also don't have unions being as big of a voice in terms of fighting for the change we need in

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  9. They may all be right. So that to me is an incredibly important issue. It's an issue the president kind of ran on and he hasn't done anything about. But it's the reason people feel the way they do.

    2019-01-31 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 304 — John Delaney · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  10. 5,000 people are losing their job. And you've got 5,000 people, men and women at home, trying to probably explain to their kids why they're not working and trying to think about, okay, what's going to replace the job that I used to have, which paid me a really good wage and supported my family. And so we got to have real policies that actually create jobs in these places. But what we really have to do is stop fighting politically and actually start getting some of this done. Because the cost of doing nothing is not nothing for huge parts of the country, right? Huge parts of the country have paid a huge price because of all our political fighting. We haven't done the basic things we should have done to update our society and the institutions and the laws and the tax incentives to encourage real investments in parts of these countries. Because when I go to small towns in Iowa, it's the number one thing people say to me, which is, will my children or my grandkids be able to have a job in this town?

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  11. And we'd be looking at a totally different map in terms of where jobs are being created. And I think a relatively short period of time. These are the things this president hasn't done, right? So when he talks to people about what he's going to do for them, I mean, I just drove from New Jersey out to Iowa, took my dad's pickup truck because I'm going to drive it around Iowa. And I drove past Lordtown.

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  12. Communities, and there's real things we can do to get private sector investors to invest in these communities, to encourage companies to locate their simple things like requiring 25% of the government contracts in this country to be issued to government contractors that have 50% or more of their employees in these kind of communities. That would give people a reason to locate there. If you provide federal tax incentives for investors to invest in these distressed communities, if we actually finally built infrastructure with a disproportionate allocation, if you double the earned income tax credit for people living in these communities, those four things right there, that simple agenda, incentives for private investment, getting infrastructure going, creating an incentive for government contracts to locate, and then doing things to make it easier to hire workers, but the workers being able to afford a decent standard of living, those four things together, they wouldn't turn around every community in this country, but they turn around a huge numbers of them.

    2019-01-31 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 304 — John Delaney · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  13. Right? Because Maytag used to invest in your town. They built a plan. They hired people. They would buy new machinery, new equipment. They'd maintain the plant. They'd invest in the town. And then they left in pursuit of cheaper wages and they moved that plant overseas. What we didn't do as a country is have real policies to make sure people then invested in that town again or invested in towns like it. And that was the failing of our country across the last 30 years. We were thinking globally, which was the right thing to do, but we stopped investing locally. And what the president has said to people is he's going to bring all that stuff back. Well, in truth, you know, when that maytag plant left Iowa probably 70% of its cost were workers, it's probably now 20% wherever it is. So even if he brought them back, it wouldn't have the same number of jobs. And what he hasn't done is done anything to encourage people to invest in these.

    2019-01-31 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 304 — John Delaney · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  14. It's clearly made, in my opinion, the world safer and more secure for Americans. But to your point about what's happened to our country, I mean, huge parts of our country have been left behind. One of the things I point out when I'm talking to people in Iowa and New Hampshire that really I think gets their attention is last year in our country, 80% of the money for new businesses kind of startup capital, venture capital, if you will. 80% of it went to 50 counties in the country. So you have 3,100 counties, and 50 of them got 80% of the startup capital for new businesses. And that to me is a story of what's really happened to our country. Because if you lived in a living in a town in Iowa that used to have a Maytag plan. And it leaves because it's Newton's

    2019-01-31 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 304 — John Delaney · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  15. The wrong villain, right? Which is effectively change, progress, globalization. I mean, globalization, which he vilified. And I got to say, even people in our party have really questioned, if you look at the facts, if you look at what globalization has done for the world, I mean, in 1950, about 25% of the world was interconnected globally in the global poverty rate, I think, was 75%. You fast forward to today, it's more than reverse. About 80% of the world is interconnected globally, and only about 10% of the global population lives in abject poverty.

    2019-01-31 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 304 — John Delaney · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  16. Well, in my opinion, the world has changed really fast over the last several decades, and largely because of globalization and technological innovation. And we didn't do the kind of things we should have done as a country and as a society to prepare our citizens and our communities for this change. And as a result, a lot of people who were left behind. And those people are looking for an answer as to what happened. And the president has created a villain that isn't really the villain, but it was an easy villain for him to frame and point to, particularly in communities where people haven't had a lot of experience with immigration or don't live side by side with a lot of immigrants or have this perception that immigrants are taking their jobs. So rather than pointing at the right villain, which in my opinion is a broken political system that failed to do the kind of things we should have done to prepare our society for this change, he was able to create

    2019-01-31 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 304 — John Delaney · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  17. Who's going to get in and really build a life for themselves? And maybe the fact that we're here will make a difference. Because we need a little shared humanity in some of these decisions we're making.

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  18. I guess it was three weeks ago now. And we went to a place called Dilly, Texas, which is right outside of San Antonio. And in Dilly, Texas, there's the largest detention facility that this country has. At the time, it was housing about 1,700 women and children who were seeking asylum from Central America. And after they come to this country, they are detained. They're put in a temporary detention facility. Then they go to this facility in Dili, where they have an opportunity to make their preliminary asylum case. So we went down there, we took 14 Georgetown law students and two law professors to go here and help process asylum cases on behalf of these asylum seekers. And it was just an extraordinary experience just to hear these stories firsthand and see these people come into our country for a better opportunity. And to some extent, as I was sitting there, I'm saying to myself, you know, there's probably someone like my grandfather here.

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  19. You know, immigrants are entrepreneurial. They start small businesses. They infuse communities. They are kind of the beating heart of this nation. You know, my wife and I went down to the border two weeks ago.

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  20. And so it's an amazing blessing to have a growing population. I mean, the United States has a birth rate that is self-sustaining, which is actually becoming pretty unique in the developed world. A lot of these countries have birth rates that are not self-sustaining. Although birth rates were down in this country quite a bit the last couple of years, which is a concerning sign. So it's terrific to have people wanting to come here. I think it's one of the great advantages this country has. I mean, my sense is 80 to 90 percent of the people in the world, if they had an opportunity to come to the United States, they would. And if you think about it as if you're running a company, imagine if you were running a company, an 80 to 90 percent of the workers in that industry wanted to work for you, you would view that as a huge asset.

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  21. Well, I mean, there's nothing worse for a country than to have a shrinking population. If you look around the world, if you look at places like Russia, which have shrinking populations and other countries in Europe that have shrinking population, it just completely destabilizes kind of the economic model of the country because they effectively don't have new people coming into the workforce to fund what is increasingly becoming a more expensive society to run because people are living so much longer.

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  22. There were electricians or plumbers or carpenters. One of them made a joke that there was a lot of bar stools empty that afternoon in the local town. I know all these, you know, I used to hang out with them all the time. He had buddies who were not only electricians, but plumbers and carpenters and masons. And for a while, that's what I thought everyone did because everyone I knew worked with their hands.

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  23. And my dad took great pride in his work, and he had so many relationships from it. And I remember he passed away about two years ago. And I remember at his funeral, we had awake in a little kind of small funeral home and only had one viewing room. And the wake was at three o'clock. And I was there with my sister and my mom and our family. And at 2.45, I go out to the front of the funeral home. And there's a line of about 60, 80 to 85-year-old guys. Their role is buddies

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  24. You could feel it. I mean, I was eight, nine years old, but it was, yeah, I still remember the times because he would get up and he would try to figure out what to do and a bunch of he and his buddies would do odd jobs to make some extra money. And he kept himself busy. He was always working.

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  25. I do. I do. It was in the early 70s and was about 18 months. I mean, he would do some side jobs, but it was really slow. And that was pretty the only time he was out of work.

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  26. All the time. It was one of the thrills when I was a kid I would kind of get in his pickup truck. He always had a pickup truck and go to his job sites. You know, he used to go Saturday mornings kind of to check him out. And there were a lot of big industrial projects going on in New Jersey at the time. He worked most of his career at the Meadowlands. So first he was working on Giant Stadium. He used to be called Giant Stadium. And then the racetrack and then the arena. And that actually was a very transformative project. He had been out of work for about a year in the early 70s. And then they basically redeveloped the whole meadowlands and he started working again. And he worked there pretty much most of my growing up. So it was cool for me as a kid to get in his pickup truck, go down, and watch them building a stadium.

    2019-01-31 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 304 — John Delaney · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  27. Right. He was a 60 year member of the International Brotherhood of Electoral Workers. And he loved it. I mean, he was so loved being an electrician. He loved being in the union. He loved his union buddies. And that union created a good life for us. And in fact, when I went to college, I went to Columbia University. I had a scholarship from the IBW, which allowed me to go. They paid for half my tuition. It was an incredibly hardworking strongest person I ever knew. My dad was the kind of person who could turn a rusty bolt with his bare hands.

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  28. And that's really the only reason he was led in the country, because the one armed judge led in the one armed boy and told him to make something of his life. So he went on to settle in Jersey City, and he worked in the Joseph Dixon Pencil factory for his whole life, which was right there in Jersey City. And so that was my grandfather on my mother's side. Yes. And then my grandfather on my father's side was a dock worker in Jersey City. But they all moved to Woodridge, which is where I was born.

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  29. And there were hundreds of people in the appeal waiting to get there, probably six seconds in front of the judge. And my grandfather used to tell the story around the Thanksgiving table. The judge walked in and he was putting on his robe. And my grandfather saw that the judge had one arm as well.

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  30. But they appealed the decision because you were able to appeal. And so he finally got a hearing in front of a judge. And the hearing was held in the great hall of Ellis Island, where you've probably been. Yeah.

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  31. And when I went back and did research on it, he came in on a ship. And the day the ship came in in August of 1923, 15 ships came into New York Harbor that day from Europe, bringing 15,000 immigrants, which is just an amazing thing to think about what it must have been like. And his seven brothers and sisters were led into the country. But he was detained. And the reason he was detained is because he only had one arm. And back then, we didn't allow people into the country who had disabilities. And they used to give them what was called a six-second physical. So they'd look at them for six seconds to make sure they were okay, and then they'd let him into the country. So he was detained and scheduled to be deported. So they sent him to Staten Island, and he was all set to be deported. He was a little boy. He was, you know, 11, 12 years old.

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  32. Yeah, reasonably well. And they're all from Jersey City. And then I grew up in a little town called Woodridge, which is right outside, right near Giant Stadium. But my one grandfather, it's funny, I talk a lot about my one grandfather in particular on the campaign trail because he has a very interesting story. He came to this country in 1923 with his seven brothers and sisters and his mother. And they came in on a ship. And when I went back and did.

    2019-01-31 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 304 — John Delaney · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  33. So, first of all, thank you for having me, David. It's great to be here. You're right. I'm three quarters Irish, one quarter English, because three of my grandparents were Irish, and my grandfather was English.

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