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John Kasich

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  1. Well, what happened was I graduated from college in December and I was going to go to law school, but I had to wait and I went looking for a job and I couldn't find one. I walked in the legislature and got hired there and then I became an intern, which was like a top A to a bunch of state senators. And I did it for a while and then I quit and I ran for the state senate. The guy that hired me in Washington, the Democrat, he made a campaign contribution to me. And then when he found out I was running as a Republican, he demanded his money back.

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  2. There's a book going to come out around Christmas written by a friend of mine who is you will know and he questions why Robert Kennedy was so close to Joe McCarthy. What was that all about? That was all about fear, wasn't it? So I think it's come and gone in different streams.

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  3. But I remember that Agnu did say something about if you seen one slum, you've seen them all or something. I mean, it was, or, you know,

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  4. And I think I can vaguely remember arguing with somebody who was telling me no, no, no, no, no. And I said, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. So it wasn't as though I had become some sort of a big admirer, but after 1987, I loved to tell the story because I think it paints a part of Nixon that no one ever sees.

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  5. So the question was on Watergate. So anyway, so I kind of, yeah, I kind of am reading about this. I go back to Ohio State and I remember telling people, I think this guy's got a real problem. So I kind of felt it. And that's all I kind of remember about it. I kind of remember telling people, no, this is a real problem.

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  6. I'm still in college, yeah. And so it was a great experience to Jack Murtha. I got to meet these guys and It was great. That's why with young people, I try to tell them, don't be digging yourself into a ditch here and putting yourself in cement as to what your party is. You know, be flexible about things.

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  7. But he was a Democrat and was very close to Laura, and O'Brien. And that next summer I couldn't get a job and he hired me, and I went down and spent time with him, and he was lobbying for the Alaskan pipeline, so I got to meet a lot of Democrats. I think I met Tipp O'Neill then. I met Bill Green.

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  8. Yeah, I was working for a guy who I met hitchhiking with some of my buddies. And he worked for JFK and who's not fascinated by that story. So I asked him if I could take him to lunch. He picked us up hitchhiking like three of us, you know, and drove us down to the beach. And so I said, could I take you to lunch? And he said, yes. So I went down to see him, and we went over to a place called Duke Ziebert's, which was this really nice restaurant. We went in. And I looked at the menu and I looked at him and I said, Sir, I can't buy lunch.

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  9. Everybody kind of goes the same way. We're all equal. So respect, but not like, oh my God, this is the greatest guy or anything like that. I was there working for a Democrat at that point when Watergate started to happen. And I remember going back.

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  10. No, because I can remember first of all, because I had that meeting, I didn't go in there like with my mouth a jar. It was like I felt like, well, I'm going in, I'm going to have a meeting with the president. And okay, this is not that big. I never felt overwhelmed by it. And why? McKee's Rocks. You know, everybody puts their pants on.

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  11. He'll be defined by it, but I also think that as time has marched on, he People are given him a credit for really being a brilliant man aside from the best And you know what I think it was? I think maybe he was an insecure man and he was only as good as the people around him. So Vida had decent people around them, he probably would have had greater success, but he didn't, and he had people around him that took advantage of him, and he went down.

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  12. So he called back a couple weeks later and he said, Nixon is going to be in town and he'd like to see you. So I went to see him. And I remember the one thing he said to me is learn foreign policy. He told me that. And then he said, is there anything I can do for you? And I said, there is My mother and father had just been killed by a drunk driver. And my sister was having a very hard time, and I said, would you ride her a letter? David, you should see the letter he wrote to her. It was unbelievable. Handwritten a couple pages and I mean, it was really pretty remarkable.

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  13. Yes, now a congressman, so that's 17 years later. And I meet this guy at this reception, and he had an odd name. And I said, God, I name sensor so familiar. Did you know Nixon? He said, yeah. I did work for him. I said, well, wait a minute. I think I know your name. And I went to see him. I told him the whole story. And I said, do you ever see Nixon? And he said, yes. And I said, well, tell him I got to be a congressman.

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  14. Um I don't remember that very well, but I did have another opportunity where I had a really impression in nineteen eighty seven I ran into a guy who now you're

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  15. Student from Ohio. Maybe? I mean, I can't remember how much press, but I know it was in the local paper. And, you know, I mean, the Ohio State paper and maybe some other papers. What was your

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  16. The president, and what did they tell you? They said five minutes. I said, I'm not coming out in five minutes. So I was there 20. You know, I think back, why did he have me there? And when I think about it, this was in the fall of 1970. Okay, so in the spring of 1970, we had Kent State. And so when I look back I said why did he do this? I think it must have been because he was trying to get an assessment of what was happening on the campus. It's the only way I could figure it out.

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  17. And then he told me he was going to go have a meeting with Nixon because I asked him what you'd do as a college president. And then he told me, I said, I'd like to go with you and have a little chat with Nixon. He said, no, I gave him a letter and then he gave it to Nixon. And Nixon wrote me back in the letter. The letter asked you not to.

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  18. Things up and went in with your list of concerns. That's exactly what happened. And so he took, I think, kind of like me, he was intrigued, and I told him how nice his office was.

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  19. Went to Ohio State. I went in to see the president university in the first couple weeks because I was upset about some things.

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  20. Oh assurance sometimes. You know, when I think back to that, it's just unbelievable that I've had those kinds of breaks. And one thing's kind of led to another. Well, tell it.

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  21. And so I announced at closing him and nobody was singing and so I yelled into the microphone as the priest was coming off the altar to stop the organ and I gave him a lecture. I said, you know, God loves when you sing, so pick up the pages, pick up the book and turn to page 50 and sing the closing hymn. Not much more singing and the thing ends and I'm walking out and the lady walks up to me. She says, you know, young man, I love to sing. Could you give us the right page the next time? So, you know, David, never unsure. Just keep moving.

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  22. Well, it's something I did, and I David, honestly, What an unbelievable thing, you know, being such a young man and standing in front of people and speaking and One time, by the way, that I announced the closing hymn, and one thing I would not do was sing, which is what I should have been doing when I think about Justin Timberlake, but I wouldn't sing.

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  23. Yeah, I remember getting up and I was yelling at the school board and saying, you know, now we have this big meeting and you're now all paying attention, where are you most of the time? And I remember leaving. I didn't think anything of it. And the next day my father came home and he said, Johnny, what'd you do down there? And so it was a steady stream. And then, you know, I got involved in the church. And the next thing you know, I was, they asked me if I could run one of the services, like be a commentator. That's a leader of the people. And I started speaking when I was probably, I don't know, 15 years old or something like that. So just one thing led to another.

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  24. My mother probably she was had all these opinions on things and I think I found it interesting and she would give me quiet support on things I would do. And, you know, David, I remember I went to a school board meeting. We had sort of a called a race riot, but a real disturbance. And I went to the meeting, and I can remember getting up.

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  25. That's right. That was part of what made While my dad carried mail and he come from a big family and they had their challenges, his father was a coal miner, died of black lung. My mother, her mother, was Croatian, my mother was very outspoken, smart, opinionated, under educated, and my mother inspired me. I always like to say that she was a talk show pioneer. She would listen to the radio and then scream at it. And my father had the twinkle in his eye They did never really look for them to understand what their son was doing. Not that they weren't smart. It was like, Johnny, what are you doing? And then I get elected.

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  26. Yeah, and they were looking, and there's a strong man saying, you know. There is an element when you grow up there of people just making, you know, kind of wild statements and strong statements and this is bad and nobody cares and we had to throw the whole thing out and I think there was an element of that and then this guy shows up and he's got them all riled up and he says and by the way I'll fix every problem you have. Just give me a chance and say make America great goes to exactly, I've never thought about this before. But make America great goes hand in glove with I love my country, but I feel as though I'm getting the short end of the stick.

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  27. Well, they were kind of conservative. George Meany type Democrats, common sense, God-fearing, pretty conservative, you know. flag America, you know, all that kind of stuff new color. And pro union. Very strong for the union. You know, there are people who I think over time have felt as though they're not respected, maybe. They're not appreciated. They are at risk because of their jobs. And I don't want to say understand this. They may

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