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  1. Oh yeah, I'm thrilled to be here with you. And yes, I really have an optimistic viewpoint which is drawn from, I think, reality. See terrible news in the news all the time, but that's because that's the only kind they print. Good things are happening, and we can find them if we look.

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  2. Yeah. Well, John, this has been an absolute joy. Thank you for your contributions to this world. And thank you also for, I think, something that really resonated throughout this conversation is just this level of optimism that this human species, even though there's so much we don't know, it's worth us trying.

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  3. Yeah, it really does. And if you want to know what's happening, see where the money is going. Many, many billions of dollars are being spent on artificial intelligence, and so if it's possible it's going to happen.

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  4. Here on earth, I think we're going to see astonishing growth in artificial intelligence, and it'll be a powerful tool and a powerful weapon, and we'll have to get used to it because it's going to happen very quickly. And it's not so long ago that really smart people were telling us it could never happen.

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  5. I'll have some ideas of things that I'm working on now. But they're probably not going to last 100 years. The things that do look exciting a hundred years from now, it could still be the dark matter and the dark energy and the search for life elsewhere. In my sort of territories

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  6. Well, for us on Earth. All right, well, let's close out on one more question, which is, you know, you have been working in this industry for a very long time. And we'll see where longevity science goes. But if you did have, hypothetically, a hundred more years to work on something, is there some big, ambitious project that you would love to get your hands on? Is there something that you would really love to be a part of yourself?

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  7. Well, the public dollars come because our representatives have decided it's important for the whole country to do it. So sometimes it's for actual personal daily benefits like health, sometimes it's for prestige matters the United States should be showing the world that we're great leaders in the cause of freedom and science and democracy and so forth. So, the Apollo program was an example of that. Don't mess with us, we can do anything we like. But sort of work, the Soviet Union did not attack us. So there are a lot of different versions of why the public dollars are spent, but I would say having been to visit the committee room for the House Committee on Science and Technology, it's covered with space pictures. They love what we do at NASA, and it's visible. The public can see what we do. You can't make a pretty picture about a virus.

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  8. To that. So one part of it is it's not so much lack of trust is scientists have been discovering things that some people didn't want to know. Because what we're doing is so important, it matters to people's lives daily, there's a pushback because they don't want to know this information sometimes. So it's been going on since Galileo, probably even before him. So the practical importance of what scientists and engineering are doing is immense. And so we don't always like the result. It's not so much that we're against science as that we don't like what's happening. So let's attack the messenger once in a while. But to my reaction is it just proves how important the science really is, that it matters so much the people are fighting about it.

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  9. Maybe one other question that relates to our wider world is a phenomena we're seeing is this lack of trust or a decrease in trust in institutions over time some of those institutions are scientific institutions and so I'm just curious to hear your perspective on that just your pulse your reaction almost to that

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  10. None of the other things we can possibly reach are anything like it. The moon has no ear. Mars is cold and has a You can't go outside without being bombarded with cosmic rays, and you're going to die in a few years if you do that too much. So just don't think that way. Earth is our home.

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  11. Yeah, well, I have to ask you, what do you think about this concept of us as humans, as little space dust creatures becoming a multiplanetary species? And also just, I mean, I'm uniquely curious to hear your perspective because there's a level of grounding in the science in terms of, you know, is it better to optimize what we have here on Earth or is it actually practical worth being ambitious and trying to make that a reality on some of these other planets?

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  12. We use something called adaptive optics in astronomy. And so we learn some math and we've made some engineering and now it's in many doctors' offices.

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  13. And a lot of it's not directly traceable, but because we're doing these things it happens. So a lovely story from the web telescope, the person who figured out how to measure the web telescope mirrors while we were polishing them today to get them exactly right. He went on to invent technology that you see in your eye doctor's office so they can see the back of your eye much better. And even if you give you much better eyesight, you can get 2010 eyesight from using this technology.

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  14. And then they go on to solve all the other problems of humanity. And some of it's also extremely practical. From space, we can see the earth and study the earth and see what we're doing to it. And we may actually do that part. Then, of course, NASA, among other things we do is we have extreme demand for extreme objects of engineering. So when we need something, we'll invent it. And then it may have value elsewhere in our world.

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  15. Because Sir Fred Hoyle gave that name, we are instantly drawn to thinking of a firecracker, but that's not what it is So there's that one. Then there's the other question what good is space research for mankind? And there's lots of different kinds. One, of course, is that it's exciting for young people and we draw in new science and engineering people to study these things because it's exciting.

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  16. And so that's not what astronomers see. We see the entire universe expanding. It's probably infinite. So it's not a thing that happened at a place in time. It's the entire thing happening all at once.

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  17. Cosmic dust brain is my cosmic dust brain is not able to do that either, but somebody will be working on it and some people are working on it and we might get some breakthroughs.

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  18. We are completely confused. We have no successful theoretical predictions based on that idea of quantum gravity. Doesn't mean there isn't any, but then it gets into all the wonderful questions about wormholes and quantum entanglement and the other mysteries of modern science and engineering.

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  19. So then you say, well, what could come before that? And what does the theory predict? So the theory predicts maybe there could be other universes erupting out of this inflation field, and we would never know they were existing. There could be billions or trillions or an infinite number of other universes according to this idea. And we'd never know. But because this is so much of a guess, we honestly can't tell you what came before that. And then we get to what about quantum gravity, which we touched on very briefly. If quantum mechanics should apply to space and time themselves, then what happens if time and space don't mean what they seem to mean anymore? And then kind of all bets are off that means.

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  20. And then we picture this soup of corks and leptons they're called. And then we say, well, what came before that? And so we have guessed that there's something called an inflation field, a purely conceptual quantum mechanical idea. And we say if this could happen in this particular way, then it would produce the expanding universe that we have today. And so it seems to hold up in the sense that there are a few predictions that it makes that we verified by observation of the cosmic background radiation. So when this was first proposed, I thought, well, that'll never work. We'd never know. But there is a little bit of evidence that this cosmic inflation story could be correct. But it's still pretty much a guess.

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  21. Run the play button backwards so the galaxies go crushing together, the stars are ripped apart, the temperature goes up and up. Eventually the atoms are ripped apart. Even the protons and neutrons are ripped apart and separated into quarks.

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  22. Yeah, well, maybe that's because maybe there isn't anything for it. So the way I think out about it is sort of from the observer's perspective. Because what we see today is distant galaxies running away from us. And we see the cosmic microwave radiation that tells us what it was like when it was young. And we imagine running it backwards in our minds.

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  23. What comes before the Big Bang? There is the Big Bang and then you have all of this matter expanding, creating galaxies, et cetera. But like it's hard for me to wrap my brain around this idea of what comes before it.

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  24. We're too far away to see it. So, anyway, we are here at this particularly interesting time where we still have evidence and contrill write the story and tell us ourselves how did we get here from something.

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  25. So the universe will be in the process of appearing to empty itself out. And if you imagine going far enough into the future with just one Milky Way left, all the other galaxies are gone, the evidence of the history of the universe might have disappeared from

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  26. So they got a Nobel Prize for discovering the acceleration. It's going faster and faster every year, which means that if you were to come back in another, say, hundred billion years, most of the galaxies that we know about would have receded from us so far away that we couldn't see them anymore.

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  27. Then we have the cosmic dark energy, which is something that in principle Einstein imagined there's a place in his equations of the universe that could be called dark energy. But we thought generally astronomers thought that, well, that would never happen. So we imagined and believed that the universe expansion will be slowing down because gravity is pulling on things and will slow the expansion, which seems to be true up for the first roughly ten billion years of the expanded universe or nine billion. And then it seems to be accelerating. So, who asks for that? Well, it was discovered by people who are planning to measure the deceleration. And there's something wrong here

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  28. There's something gnawing at you. I guess the ones that are obvious, that already are recognized by thousands of scientists, cosmic dark energy, cosmic dark matter. They seem to be there. We can describe them mathematically. They seem to fit practically everything that we know, and we did not expect them. There was no sort of basic understanding of anything that said they should be there. So cosmic dark matter appears to be transparent. We shouldn't call it dark, we should call it transparent. There's a lot more of it than there is of ordinary matter, the protons and neutrons and atoms that you all see every day. So it's out there. It has been detected by its gravity. So back in the nineteen thirties we already had a hint that galaxies were spinning too fast, which means they're being held together by more gravity than you can find.

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  29. We've already touched on this idea that there's just still so many question marks about this universe around us. Is there a specific question mark that you would just love to see solved in your lifetime, just even out of personal interest? There's something gnawing at you.

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  30. School buses. Every week I get another aerospace engineering story that says we have electric airplanes coming. Oh, okay. So we don't know how to do it. It's not the same as we're not going to do it. And we don't know how to do it doesn't mean we can't afford it. It just means we are lacking of imagination and patience.

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  31. And so when you say, oh, it can't be done. It just means we don't know how it can be done. But if it's important enough, we will do it. I've been to science fairs quite a few times to see what the young people are working on, and in the physics and engineering there is a really large fraction of the kids are working on batteries, engineering, energy supplies, pollution control, and resource management. So kids are already aware that's where the opportunity is, and our world is actually sponsoring the job. or it'll cost too much and we shouldn't do it. And now anybody that once can buy an electric car.

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  32. So that tells you the power of exponential growth. You just wait a long time and invest trillions of dollars and something will happen. Yeah. So when we say, can we solve the engineering problems of Little Planet Earth? Can we manage our climate? Can we manage our resources? Can we manage pollution? Well, yes, of course. The capabilities to manage also grow exponentially with time.

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  33. On the Apollo. So, as an example, somebody heard this story. If you have a digital key fob in your car, it's more powerful than what we sent to the moon with the Apollo astronauts.

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  34. I mean, conductors is kind of so we knew that just got bigger and better and faster all the time, and people don't really understand any of the details. Where they just see that happened since we start off with, that can't be done. That's impossible. Then somebody invents something, and then somebody wants some more. And gradually we invest our billions or trillions as it takes because there's a demand for it, and now we have a pocket computer that's far more powerful than we could have going to the moon with.

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  35. Some people are working on well, can you generate electrical power and beam it down from space? Or can you block some sunlight with something in space? So there are lots of creative ideas. Some of them might work. Most of them probably too hard or won't work, but we could make up our mind sometime. Other thing that sort of generally observe is that we have exponential growth of problems and we exponential growth of capabilities. Like it used to be Moore's law about those problems.

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  36. A few things, one general observation is that we NASA take on incredibly hard engineering challenges like going to the moon with people or building this great telescope. And then we say, yeah, we actually can design, build, and cooperate to build something incredibly hard and difficult, and it can work. So it should give us reason for confidence and optimism that when we take on other challenges like managing our own little planet, that we can do that. So we also, of course, at NASA, we take pictures of the planet. We watch Little Earth all the time. We have dozens and dozens of things looking down to map the circulation of the oceans, the clouds, and various atmospheric constituents like carbon dioxide we see where it comes from, methane we see where it's being emitted from various sources on Earth. So we're providing the data that it takes to understand our little planet. Then some of the potential

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  37. So we're building that, or I should say we will be building that because that's what NASA wants to build. The Congress wants to build it, National Academy of Sciences said to build it, astronomers want us to build it. And I think the public wants us to build this because, oh, I sure want to know, they all want to know, are we alone?

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  38. We are finishing up one now called the Nancy Grace Roman Space Telescope, and it will have an equipment to look for planets as direct images, a device called a coronagraph. So if we can get that to work, you never know. We might see some signs of more or less Earth-like planet. And the next one we're going to build is called Habitable Worlds Observatory. And so when we do that, we'll be able to see an image with a little dot next to the other big dot, and it'll be an Earth-like object around a star like the Sun, which is a much more likely place to find signs of life, because of course we've got one observation, which is us. Here we are. So please look for another place like us.

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  39. Good reference roughly, each one is ten times bigger than the other. So, yes, we're able to study planets around small stars. Because some of the time the little planet will go in front of the star and it'll block some starlight. So, okay, now we know it's there. We can calculate its temperature and its size and whether it possibly hosts an ocean. Okay, now does it have an atmosphere? So yes, maybe. So look to see if any of the starlights going through the atmosphere of the planet on its way to the telescope. And yeah, we can do this, and we have pretty large catalog of large planets that do have an atmosphere with interesting molecules in them. And so the technique works. And now we're just now busy analyzing the small stars that potentially small Earth like planets, and I can't say that we're really surprised, but so far the little ones do not have atmospheres that we can tell.

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  40. Tiny little child. Just as a matter of scale Earth is 8,000 miles across. Jupiter is 88,000 miles across, and the Sun is about a million miles across.

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  41. I would say maybe there's life under there. And so it gives us impetus to track it down and find out more. So then we get to what can we do about other silence around other stars. Can we find places that are like home, little Earths orbiting stars like the sun? So far we don't know of any like that because it's a really hard observational problem.

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  42. Something else that we don't understand instead. So, what are we going to do about measuring? Well, of course, here in the solar system, we're sending out probes to land on Mars and visit other places where there could be life and sea. So on Mars we're working to bring back little rocks that have the chance of having fossils in them. So that's really hard, but we're working on it. We're already putting the rocks in little caches to get ready to bring them home. We are sending probes out to orbit around satellites of Jupiter and Saturn where water is coming out. There are places where there's a liquid water ocean covered with ice, and there are cracks in the ice and the water comes out and you can see something. And so if we're lucky, we might find out there are organic molecules in those oceans.

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  43. And if we're not alone, where are the neighbors? So I'll jump ahead to what I think the answer is. I think the answer is no, we're not alone, and I think life will occur quite frequently, but it will mostly be a rather elementary. And when you look at the history of Earth, you see the history of the different forms of life growing. It's taken all of the entire history of the universe for us to turn up. So that does tell us that we're kind of rare in history. So probably life is everywhere that it could be, which is perhaps in conditions like ours where there's liquid water at about the right temperature, but probably we're not going to find the neighbors. Similarly, that we're not in danger from the neighbors. So it might be we got lots of unexplained things here on planet Earth, but it's not very likely to be space aliens.

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  44. That was done with a LIGO observatory, which is here on the ground. And we've even more remarkably seen neutron stars colliding and making a bigger neutron star. And that has its own story to tell. Because, for instance, when you look at your ring, if you have a wedding ring of gold Then we know that most of the gold in that writing ring came from neutron stars that collided and blew up and material came back out into spaces and was recycled. So this is a part of the most astonishing story about our own origins. We're made out of not only recycled stars, but neutron stars that collided and blew up. And so our own personal story is got the most remarkable threads in it.

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  45. And so we know they're there because we see things orbiting around them. So we calculate that there's something enormously massive object in the middle. Sometimes they're very bright because material is falling in and getting compressed to enormous temperatures and we can see that part. And now we want to know well which came first the galaxy or the black hole. Did the universe start off with black holes all over the place? Or did it make galaxies first and then they made the black holes? So we've begun to observe black holes out there. We've even seen a few years ago black holes colliding with each other and joining together to make bigger black holes.

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  46. So that's the coolest thing for the astronomer in that picture. So sometimes we even see that the early galaxy is filled up with little sparkly things. We call them globular clusters like a hundred thousand stars that were presumably formed together. And now our big question is, well, which came first galaxies or globular clusters? Did the universe make the little clusters first and then they joined together or did the galaxy form first and then break up into little clusters? So this is one of our generic questions of which came first chickens or eggs. Or breadfruit, I don't know. Brings me to another question about early galaxies. There's a black hole, a giant black hole in every galaxy, just about.

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  47. And nature has given us lends us extra lenses in space to magnify the more distant universe. And this is something that Einstein predicted, and we never thought it would be useful, except in a most abstract way. So now what we see is sometimes two or three or four or five images of the same distant object, all stretched out and magnified, so this is a way to look farther back in time to see the details of the various forest galaxies.

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  48. Okay, so we have something that Joe Biden released at the White House on July 11th last year, and it shows quite a few remarkable things. There's some stars with six legs sticking out, and that's just due to the wave nature of light, because light sort of bends around the hexagonal edges of our mirrors. We knew about that, so stars are not that exciting right now. Then in the middle of the picture, some giant fuzzy galaxies enormously massive, and we sort of knew they were there already. And so that wasn't so exciting, but we wanted to know exactly how massive and exactly where all that stuff is. And then in the background, our little pink arcs, curved things that do not look like galaxies, but they really are. And so they are highly magnified and distorted images of very distant objects, but

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  49. Don't know what it is. So that's why astronomers are thrilled right now that they've got something to work on. And it's going to take us a good long time, could be decades before we really deeply understand what were we wrong about. And it's even possible that there's some new force of nature or some thing that happened early on that's just so different than we can't even imagine it yet.

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  50. So look back in time, see what the universe was like when it was young, and see what were the galaxies doing. And they were already pretty grown up as far as back in time as the Hubble could see. So please build us another telescope to look farther back because we've got a big mystery here. So we still have a big mystery because we'd built the web telescope it did what it was supposed to do, it produced beautiful pictures, and right away we could see that the galaxies grew even faster than we thought. And so even though we had the information from Hubble and all the simulations and calculations and predictions, we were still wrong. So we're looking for something really deep and fundamental

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