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  1. So I knew he was like he wanted to hear his song, wanted to hear his name. I was like, oh, I got to do the song now, Bernan Burns here. So I get, and then in the middle of the thing, I did, I got away with it, but it was one of those things where I was trying to figure out, you know, I don't want to get too cute here. You get a little too cute with Sinatra and it's not. Not a got to mess with. Yeah. And that could have taken place.

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  2. He's in the song and he knows he's in the song. He's a former governor from our beautiful arena. Now it's had. Brendan Byrne carved on the wall.

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  3. And my buddy Joe Cosgriff wrote the song, and we had been following us around New Jersey. And when we opened at the Garden State Arts Center, it was the one time when I said, if I do this song, they're going to love it. And Sinatra's going to kill me. I just didn't want to go near it. So I was all set. My father actually did that night with us, which was really terrific. So we had it all set up. We were ready. I was just about to go on. And one of the ushers comes backstage and says, oh, by the way, Brendan Burns in the audience tonight.

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  4. They didn't, but I did because I had to think, well, I'm not going to do all of me only because he's made a great record of all of me, and my all of me is not going to match up to people going, well, that's what that was. So I had three little words. I opened with an instrumental, I did, I think the group played if I had you. I know we close with sing, sing, sing, and we had something else in the middle that we tried to stay away from. We had a little baby medley that was really great that Bill Miller particularly liked. It had a little basy thing in it. So it was pretty much just trying to steer clear of anything that was too reminiscent of what Sinatra was doing. And it worked out pretty well. We had just enough stuff to make that happen.

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  5. Do what you do. So it was really interesting to be put in that situation without anybody, you know, and just go, okay, you're going to open for Frank Sinatra. And there were people like when we did it in the States too. My friend was on an elevator with two guys. I said, the kid wasn't so bad. You know, he did okay. He wasn't so nervous. You know, people were really watching to see what the hell was going on. So that was sort of what was interesting about it. It was just that.

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  6. No fooling around, and there was really no time for butterflies. You just really had to go out and do the show and get it done. And it was also one of the most people I'd played in front of Hamburg, in the back of Derby Park. We played along the back stretch of a racetrack. And there was 20,000 people there. Wow. So you were going, oh, it's 20,000 people. You know, I was just in nobody's in Mawa in front of the 16 beer drinkers. Right. So those kind of things was like, oh, if this is where you desire to go, here you are.

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  7. Well, I think it was a big deal. You know, I mean, I'm so nervous that it's Frank Sinatra. I mean, we really had to go out and do your 20 minutes, whatever they said went, you know, and you knew full or not.

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  8. Oh, yeah. Well, after this long walk down hallway and his man, Hank Catanio, the head production guy, was fantastic fellow, introduced me. And we just sort of shook hands. Sinatra and I, and he just sort of looked at me and grumped, you know, and I was about to walk away and he said, eat something, you'll look bad. And then I walked away where everybody was laughing. That was like basically it. That's the way.

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  9. I open the shows. I opened the 12 shows in the States and the 12 in the thing. And my last number was always Sink, sing, sing, and I'd be playing that. And I'd look in the wings and there was Sinatra snapping his fingers. And he would always come out and say, wasn't that fantastic? We'd always go

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  10. Just knocked it out of the park. We were weeping into our pizza, and then he said, throw another log on the air conditioner, and he walked off.

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  11. And it was literally 100 degrees, and that he had even a windbreak around was amazing. And he started singing like he was going to imagination. It's funny. And junior son, they called him junior, turned around and put his fist in front of Sinatra's face and said, you've got to fight it. And Sinatra looked at him like, okay, what do you want? And he said, what is America to meet? House I live in. And we were way out, just the six of us eating a pizza in the middle of 6,000 empty seats and Sinatra sang three glorious songs. He sang that one. Come radiant shine, and luck be a lady. We were crying. It was so brilliant that we just destroyed.

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  12. So it's like, you know, plates, cups, everything. We went running out. He had a jacket on the back that said, hurry up and wait.

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  13. He came in and it's a 6,000-seat outdoor venue called Chastain Park. We got in a day early, so they got us there to rehearse. I was rehearsing. Someone said, Frank's here, get the hell off the stage.

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  14. And we played the charts down, took us as long as it was going to take in the show. It was like 25 minutes. I said, sounds great, fellas. Thanks a lot. And Frank Senter Jr. says, that's it. I said, they sound great. And he's like, geez, Shirley McLean be another two hours and it still wouldn't be right. So we were laughing about that. But it was exciting. I said, well, the band with Sinatra's band. It was amazing.

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  15. Sure enough, it all worked itself out, and I did a month tour of Europe to lead up to doing the six dates in Germany. So it was really amazing because we couldn't believe it was going to happen. And then you're in the room and the rehearsal, the first rehearsal was the best because we put out the charts. I sat down, I stood in front of the band and in the first row was Frank Sinatra Jr. and Bill Miller, who was Sinatra's longtime piano player.

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  16. That crowd to say the least, let's trouble. So, yeah, I got lucky because I was with RCA here in the United States. They were owned by the Bertelsmann Group. EMG. BMG, based in Germany. And so the guy over there, Heinz Hen, said, oh, Pizzarelli should do it. We were good friends. I had done a bunch of things over there.

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  17. Actually, that was received quite well. I think you can put your name, put Sinatra's name still means something. And in that particular case, it was the right time for me to make that record. And it was a unique record in that we didn't copy any of the old arrangements. We had new arrangements written by John Clayton, who's a great bass player from the West Coast and Arranger, and their band, the Clayton Hamilton Jazz Orchestra. So I wanted to use a specific band with a specific sound. And inside of that homage was basically based on the songs that were written for Sinatra by people like Sammy Con and Jimmy Van Husen. So we use Nsai Coleman. So we had witchcraft and We Small Hours and Ring a Ding Ding and The Last Dance. So there were these songs specifically written for Sinatra and then other ones from other records.

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  18. Yeah, I mean, I think that's true. It was really fun on the various occasions that those things would happen. And then, you know, then he would bring me along also, aside from just subbing, he'd say, you know, we got this gig and he'd say, I'm going to bring my kid with me. He's going to play some duets. And so that happened a number of times where, you know, some guys are going, oh, who's this 24-year-old with him? And then we had worked so much, we were prepared to do anything. We play four-hour gigs. So when we had to play 30 minutes somewhere, we were bulletproof, you know.

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  19. Yeah, that was a guitarist for a while. Once again, Bucky Pizzarelli couldn't do all of the ten nights of a two-week run, so I subbed two nights in a row. And on the second night, and literally my father said, this is exactly what you will play. So here, this is it. Now play it back. Okay, don't do anything else. So I played it. And the second night, I actually, she actually said, you have a new record out. I want you to come out to California and sing at our Singer Salute Songwriters. And I was like, okay, she was just totally up on the new album like within a day. Someone said, he's got a record out. I just read about it. And she was, from then on, as generous as anyone was to me for what must have been almost 20 years I knew

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  20. I played with him once. We were going to a gig in Connecticut. My vasa said, let's stop and see Benny. We pulled into Benny's place. I think he called and said we were coming. And Benny was sitting in a chair and he would always try to find a read for his clarinet. He was always looking for the perfect read. And we had the guitars. And he said, get the guitars. And we were sitting there and he started to play Avalon. And so we were following along one of his big songs that he always played. And my father played and he pointed to the clarinet toward my father. My father started to play a little solo and he was listening. And then after my father was done, he looked at me like, okay, you have to play now. So I got to play a little solo and Benny Goodman's living room. That was the closest I got. We opened for him on a number of concerts, so that was fun too. That was the first time I got to Los Angeles was opening for Benny Goodman with my father.

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  21. Oh man. Never won. Yeah. It is one of the great things about the city is that there's the things that go on like that, and I got to go there. I want to do that. It's right here.

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  22. The funny thing was that I saw him play once with a musician where if the musician started to get too fancy, he would pull his plug out on the guitar so the sound would go dead. So I was saying, I don't want to be on purpose. Yeah. So I wouldn't want to sit next to where he could pull the plug out. So I sat on the other side of him. So instead, when I was playing and people were like applauding while I was playing, he just started detuning my guitar. Mess with all the...

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  23. Yeah, my father and I did a couple of times we went to a, he used to play all over the place and we actually played together at a place called the Hanover Trail Steakhouse in Ramsey, New Jersey. He was playing there on a Sunday night with his son and he had all those tapes making all that music and he was playing how high the moon and everything. And he saw my dad and I said, you got to come play. Come on up. And we got played with him.

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  24. Sure. Well, we use the guys who all participate in the making of those records, who arrange and do those things are guys who come from the same place, from studying that stuff, wanting to be part of that or playing with famous people when they were young also, and said, well, I want to take that as a foundation and go from there. It's the same thing with me with the Nat Cold Trio. We use it as a foundation, you know, through my 20s and early 30s and then took off from there when we started to apply it to other people who were influential and things like that.

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  25. And you got more excited about being around them and learning them. You always heard this style of music, like swing jazz, made popular by Count Basey and Oscar Peterson and Benny Goodman, played at such a high level. You were like, well, that's what I want to do. I mean, it's not old-fashioned to me. That's, you know, when you hear it played like that, it's as good as anything.

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  26. I think the big one was that my father was really the mentor because he always steered you in the right direction. And what I managed to do when we started to do gigs together, I always drove in the Dotson 210. And I would make cassettes of all these records that he was on. Just a track from this one, a track from that one, one with Zoot Sims, one with Joe Venudi, one with all these different guys. And I put it on, say, you want to hear some music? Yeah, boom. And I drive. And he'd listen to it because he didn't really listen to the records that he made. They were all in the house. I said, what was it like working with that guy? Oh, well, I got to tell you, well, that guy was unbelievable. You know, you tell a jovinudi story. You talk about Zoot Sims and the guys who were making the music that supported all the great guys, like Ben Crosby and Frank Sinatra or Woody Herman or Nat Cole were these guys who were all in the house, you know. So it was interesting to know hear them play and then hear what they had to say about all those.

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  27. Years later, he said, Oh my God, I was sitting in a room with Slam Stewart. The questions I could have asked this guy, you know? So it was really fun to be around the guys and the idea of watching them hang out together was as fun as watching them play together. And it was in watching them hang out saying, gee, these are the guys I want to hang out with. So the only way to hang out with them was to learn honeysuckle rose. You had to learn their language and it was all those songs so you could sit in and then after the song you could listen to somebody tell a story. So that's why you wanted to be part of that group.

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  28. He'd keep the pants off and have the socks on still, so you wouldn't ruin the crease in the pants. Right. But you'd have Les Paul and Zut Sims and Slam Stewart. And although they may not have been household names, Les Paul was, you still had these guys who had incredible careers and you really didn't know that much about their careers until

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  29. Well, it was actually quite interesting because, you know, we didn't really know about, like, a lot of these people were coming over the house. I think to have, we always knew when Benny Goodman was coming over because we were all sent upstairs. Don't come down, you know. So you know Benny Goodman was somebody anyway because he was the king of swing.

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  30. Yeah, then I had a group going and then Ikioshi Hirokawa from the Japan label of RCA recommended that I do a, said we'd like you to do a record with Benny Green and Chris McBride. We're real hot and fantastic jazz musicians. And after a long discussion, I said, sure, okay. And they picked all the songs and I made this record. And at that time, it sold pretty well. It was a good record for me.

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  31. Right on my deck. Yeah. And then even on my own little gigs, I could start to play them too. I had this sort of eclectic repertoire because Nat Cole.

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  32. Oh, yeah. Well, that was the thing that when I heard the Nat Cole trio on record, it's a long story that I got to it, but there they were. The records were re-released in 1980. The best of the Nating Cult trio parts one and two. My father said, go find them. I found the records, brought them home, played them, and he said, You understand? And I went, that's it because it was the anti night and day, and I get a kick out of you. It was Route 66, straighten up and fly right and frim fram sauce.

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  33. So I was writing all these songs, and I had equipment to do stuff in my. Room where I could set up and make demos of all these things. So I would quietly keep that thing going and try to figure out how I was going to eventually shop all that stuff, you know, and get it out there. But in the meantime, I was out working with my dad. My dad said I was the only guy playing jazz to support his rock and roll habit. Well, that's kind of...

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  34. Well, I think what I wanted to do was I wanted to write songs and I like Jackson Brown and James Taylor and Billy Joel. Billy Joel probably in particular and the Beatles.

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  35. Career. No baseball career. Not going to play for the Red Sox. No. But I had a lot of fun playing these gigs. And then I would still have gigs in bars around New Jersey and New York playing like cover bands and then make real money working with my father on jazz gigs.

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  36. No, I think I've just fell into doing it. It was the one thing when I was in high school, you'd play a dance. You'd make $25. You'd make $50 if it was a big deal in 1977, have $50 in your pocket. So it was just something that we were doing. I was still playing baseball a little bit through high school, but evidently you have to be able to hit to be a baseball player.

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  37. My father's uncles were, one was a guitar player who went out with all the big bands. His name was Bobby Dominic. And then there was Peter Dominic, who stayed around New Jersey and worked in the silk mills in Patterson, New Jersey, but on the weekends played gigs on the banjo and guitar.

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  38. He was on staff at NBC, and so he played for the Tonight Show with Johnny Carson when it was in New York. And then when they went to LA, he stayed here because the family was pretty well rooted in New Jersey. I remember getting the person-to-person call from Doc Severinson looking for my father. And then when Doc came back a couple years later, we went back to see him after the show and it was him and another trumpet player named Johnny Frosk. And Doc looked at the two of them and said, you're the only two guys I wanted to go to California.

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  39. Still playing today. Yeah. He said he's played with everybody except Bing Crosby, I think, was the only one that he missed along the way.

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  40. Well, I've opened for Frank Sinatra. I've played with Rosemary Clooney, James Taylor, Natalie Cole, Ricky Lee Jones, and Paul McCartney.

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