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Johnny Carson

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  1. “This one, I'm in my 60s, that would be absurd. He actually does the show until he's 67. Johnny, you can't quit like this. You have a contract. They won't let you out of. They'll never let you walk. Make it clear to them that I'm not leaving so I can work for someone else.”

    2021-06-04 · Founders · #183 Johnny Carson · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  2. “He could perform in front of 20 million people, but not 20. Johnny, who generally suffered fools not gladly, or almost not at all, for Johnny, sustaining fake sociability for hours and hours was taxing to the max. So any introvert in the world knows that feeling. Another thing about Johnny, he has to be the number one priority. And if you don't do it, then this is where Henry messes up later on too. Anybody in his life that's not going to put, whether he was married to you or he's hired you, if you're not, if you make it clear that he's not the number one priority in your life, that relationship is going to end. Johnny needs a cause for war. In the case of Joanne, it was her infidelity. In the case of Joanna, it was her desire to attain independent status through her charity work and then by starting a fashion consultancy. The rule that he applied to agents and managers and lawyers also applied.”

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  3. “The police are like, hell no, you can't do this. Like, what if you can be put in danger? Johnny insists on being the one to drop off the money, which is really, says a lot about him. He's like, listen, I don't want to play games with this guy. I'd rather put myself in harm's way than me not me send somebody else and then he winds up trying to kidnap my wife or anybody else. So it says Johnny insisted on doing it so not to make the extortionist mad and endanger the lives of his wife and stepson. That's my note. The police not only hid Carson's role, this is after it happened when doing a dummy drop of money, like a 26-year-old kid shows up and tries to pick up the, I mean, what did you think was going to happen, guy? You know, 15 minutes after Johnny does the drop this like 26-year-old kid goes to pick up the money and gets arrested. Okay guy. The police not only hid Carson's role in the drama, they in fact denied it.”

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  4. “A hole that no matter what they do as much success and the money they put into it, it will never fill. And we kind of see that with Johnny. My mother made sure of that. She deprived us of any real goddamn warmth. And so everybody that meets his mother arrives at the same conclusion. She's a very cold woman. She didn't take any pride in his accomplishments. She never gave compliments. She just was bereft of any kind of love. And that's terrible to have to grow up like that. But a lot of people have bad families. So the notion I left myself here is he blames and he's not just doing this later. He does it now, but he also does it later in the book and later in his life that he blames his failed marriages on his mother. But he's 45 years old when he's saying this. And my note to self-hear is you have to have some kind of personal responsibility. We can't control the poor life experiences we had our children, the family we might have been dropping.”

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  5. “Johnny sighing heavily finally spoke. I'm not surprised that Joanne did this to me, he said. But it hurts. It hurts like hell. Maybe I drove her to it. I wasn't the best husband in the world. I should have been home more. Not out running around. Johnny was lost in self regret and self loathing. I'm a shit. I have three kids with my first wife, and I don't see any of them. The more Johnny talked, the weirder this moment seemed. People I'd known all my life my best friends, none of them, would unburden themselves to me. But here's a man I'd known for two days and he was bearing his soul. Johnny continued my chest up right now, he couldn't find a heart or any goddamn thing. Just a lot of misery. And I just want to pause there before I finish this paragraph, think about that. He's 45 years old. He has one of the best jobs in the world. He's famous. He's highly paid, even though he has a crappy contract, which I'll get into how they fix that in a minute.”

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  6. “A little impatient at what was shaping up to be a big letdown. Finally he asked a question that surprised me completely You play tennis, right? Yeah, I played in college. Why? I play tennis. It's my sport. If you work for me, I'll expect you to join me. I look forward to it. That was it. The interview was over. When my wife asked me how it went, I said it was stupid. He didn't seem very interested in me. In that last line, based on my reading the book, I don't think he was very interested in other people. In many ways I think Johnny built a world within the world, and you could speculate maybe he did this because of his upbringing. There's a lot in this book about the terrible mother he had, but it does serve as a reminder. You can be one of the best in the world at what you do. You can be able to be wealthy and it doesn't necessarily mean that you're going to be content and live a happy life. He gets the interview, or soon he gets a job, goes on the raid the next day, then Johnny calls him at 2 a.m. the day after the raid.”

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  7. “turbulence invade his world, and this storm was huge. It forced him to react to someone, which he only felt comfortable doing at times and in ways that he chose, so he was constantly obsessed with controlling all aspects of his life. And then, as you can imagine, finding your wife cheating on you, even though you've been cheating on her every day, he didn't like that brought to him now. Now I've lack control. I don't have control over the situation. Now you're making me feel pain, and I don't like this.”

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  8. “Meanwhile, Johnny seemed impatient, as if he had somewhere else to be. Henry, Johnny said, finally arriving at the purpose of our meeting, I have reason to believe my wife is cheating on me. I also have an idea who the son of a bitch is that she's shackin' up with. No wonder he'd been restless. He'd been sitting on a bombshell. Well, I'll be happy to file a divorce for you if you want. No. I don't want you to follow for divorce, he interrupted. I want you to go with Arthur and me and some other guys when we break into the apartment to find evidence to prove that she's cheating on me.”

    2021-06-04 · Founders · #183 Johnny Carson · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source