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Jon Lansman

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  1. “There's never any certainty an events can get in your way, and maybe it'll happen after my lifetime. Who knows? But you can only do what you can do. And I'm pleased to say that at last I've been allowed the opportunity to at least have a go.”

    2017-09-29 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Jon Lansman One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  2. “Jeremy didn't, and we wouldn't have shifted the centre of gravity of political debate if Jeremy hadn't got on the ballot paper. And Jeremy was the key to get on the ballot paper, but I'm pleased to say he's risen to the rest of the job.”

    2017-09-29 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Jon Lansman One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  3. “I think what was special about Jeremy, and I confess it wasn't obvious to me that Jeremy was the right candidate until just three days before he agreed to stand, when it was pointed out to me that everybody liked Jeremy. He had no enemies. John's gone.”

    2017-09-29 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Jon Lansman One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  4. “Well, I think it does because the changes in the world economy, in the nature of work, has left people behind. That's why people feel alienated. And therefore, there are actually millions of people who feel alienated, who get enthusiastic about seeing at last hope of an alternative”

    2017-09-29 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Jon Lansman One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  5. “Yeah, the reason it works so well is it describes what happened initially in that first campaign when Jeremy stood for the leadership, when we started off by booking small rooms, you know, halls, because you never want to have a half-empty hall. And we found that they were overflowing, there were queues outside, so we booked bigger and bigger halls, and we ended up with meetings with two overflow meetings and Jeremy speaking on the top of a fire engine in the street to enormous crowds. And the momentum grew through that campaign. And people quite reasonably asked questions about whether we could repeat it in the general election, but we did.”

    2017-09-29 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Jon Lansman One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  6. “Look, we talked earlier about where my politics came from. It came from my Jewishness. I've experienced antisemitism. I was beaten up by skinheads when I was 13. Well, just before 13 when I was coming home from synagogue, preparing for my Bonitzvah. I know what anti-Semitism. My children who are half Jewish, who are notakally Jewish, suffered anti-Semitism. So I know what it's about. I'm against it, okay? Very, very firmly. It's very important.”

    2017-09-29 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Jon Lansman One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  7. “I was going to make a broader point. But actually, I think that the fringe meeting, which the stories in the press have been about, was actually about someone who talked about Holocaust denial not being illegal, as it is in Germany. Now, I've got an open mind about that, actually. I tend to think that there are people who hold crazy views. I don't think we should penalize people for thought crimes. I think we should penalize people for hatred and abuse. I think we should penalize people who discriminate.”

    2017-09-29 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Jon Lansman One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  8. “What people hear Jeremy say. This is not reasonable, Nick. There aren't any Holocaust deniers in the Labour Party so far as I am aware.”

    2017-09-29 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Jon Lansman One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  9. “Look, Labor Party Marxist is not my regularly reading material, and I don't agree with what's in it, okay? As far as I'm aware, there are no Holocaust deniers in the Labor Party. And if there were any Holocaust in the Labour Parties, it should certainly be made clear to them that there is no room for them.”

    2017-09-29 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Jon Lansman One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  10. “Well look there is anti Semitism throughout society and it would be surprising if there wasn't anti Semitism in the Labour Party. But I am delighted that this week we agreed a new rule proposed by the NEC which makes very clear our absolute intolerance of any forms of hatred and discrimination.”

    2017-09-29 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Jon Lansman One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  11. “I voted, I would have voted Remain in the 1975 referendum had I was two weeks too young to vote. I did go through a period, I switched my opinion and then I switched it back in the early 80s and I've stayed with that. I've always been an internationalist, as of course Jeremy is.”

    2017-09-29 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Jon Lansman One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  12. “Well, I think Britain and Europe need to take back control from the global corporations. Neither the EU nor the British government have yet got the policies that are up to doing that.”

    2017-09-29 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Jon Lansman One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  13. “I actually don't think it's the defining issue. I think the debate about Brexit is about means not ends. And ends is what I'm really about. People in this country feel insecure. Their pay in real terms has fallen. And the public services, the health service, education are falling apart. Those are the problems that we face. Those are the problems we've got to solve.”

    2017-09-29 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Jon Lansman One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  14. “I am happy with the party's position on Brexit because I think what's happened What's happened in the last few years is that first in Scotland on independence and then in Britain as a whole on Brexit, referendums have divided people. We've got to reunite people and we need to offer a vision of hope which will attract both Remainers and Brexiters.”

    2017-09-29 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Jon Lansman One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  15. “Well, I'm not going to get into kind of conspiracy theories. I don't believe in conspiracy. I think we have to be prepared. If we want to shift power and wealth to the many from the few, then we are going to come up against the few. And they are going to try and stop us.”

    2017-09-29 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Jon Lansman One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  16. “I certainly do. There's a character actually called Lansman in it. I mean, I was working with Chris at the time he wrote it, and he's still a friend. I think he's more of a comrade than you're suggesting too.”

    2017-09-29 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Jon Lansman One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  17. “Well, yes, they will do that. I mean, it's harder for them to beat us doing that because we have people power. That's what momentum has injected into the Labour Party.”

    2017-09-29 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Jon Lansman One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  18. “Well, I think they are the bankers and the global corporations. Actually, they wield more power than nation states in the modern global economy. But, you know, this is nothing new. Harold Wilson had to deal with runs on the pound.”

    2017-09-29 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Jon Lansman One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  19. “We do have to act to regulate the growth of global monopolies. You know, one of the strange things I did in between Benism and Corbettism was I went to London Business School and did an MBA. And what I was taught there was about business strategy was it was all about creating monopoly power. And they have succeeded in creating massive monopoly power. And that's what we're up against.”

    2017-09-29 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Jon Lansman One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  20. “It's a society which chooses to do things, which chooses policies that work for people and not for profit. Now, what do I mean by that? Capitalism has changed since the 1970s. In the 1970s, you still had big British firms that were connected to the communities where their large workplaces were based. Almost all of those workplaces have gone. They were deliberately destroyed, I think, by Thatcher. We now have atomized workforces and we have global corporations that own nothing to place or to people. And as a result, people feel completely alienated. They feel insecure. They feel that nothing is looking after them.”

    2017-09-29 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Jon Lansman One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  21. “Do you want to transform society, but the society we want to transform now is very different from the one that we had in the late 70s and early 80s. Public services have been decimated. The state has been minimized and it's been done for ideological reasons.”

    2017-09-29 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Jon Lansman One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  22. “Well, I think they are different because globalization has moved on a great deal. There may have been arguments about public ownership then, but that wasn't about the public ownership of public services. That was by then, you know, at that point was completely uncontroversial. I ran a piece on my blog before all of this happened, which compared what was beginning to be called Corbinomics with the SDP manifesto of 1983. It'll break away from the Labour Party on the centre-right. It did. It said it was less radical.”

    2017-09-29 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Jon Lansman One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  23. “We're in a completely different age. Those arguments took place at the end of a very long period of growth in incomes, full employment, Keynesian demand management policies to guarantee full employment, which is what brought increasing prosperity in real terms to ordinary people throughout Britain, which lasted until the 1970s. And it was defeated actually by international events, particularly the oil price rise in the mid-70s, and we had the beginnings of globalization.”

    2017-09-29 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Jon Lansman One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  24. “I got involved before I was captured by the attractions of Benism and the politics of Benism. It was very much a personal thing. My Jewish identity was very important to me. I was a child of the 60s. I was rebellious. I was looking for something different and for change. I read about antisemitism through the ages and I was concerned about the way Dreyfus was treated and the expulsion of Jews from Britain in 1297 and Spain in 1492 and obviously ultimately the Holocaust and therefore injustice, inequality, discrimination was at the heart of it and I went to work on a kibbutz which I was attracted to the concept of and so that was my political development.”

    2017-09-29 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Jon Lansman One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  25. “I think I actually don't describe myself to have Benite to the younger support. Emotionally, I'm a Benite. When I was walking to the ceremony where Jeremy's leadership result was announced two years ago, I walked past the church where Tony Ben's memorial service had happened actually so recently at that time. And I'd seen him just months before he died. And it was a very emotional experience because he had no inkling that that was going to happen and he would have been overjoyed. But actually this is a very different time and the context is very different. We're not...”

    2017-09-29 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Jon Lansman One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  26. “Indeed. Well, I was condemned kind of personally back in the early 80s, in the year of Ben's Deputy Leicester campaign, which I helped organize, Dennis Healy at one point accused me of orchestrating heckily. We settled out of court on that one. But mud does stick for a bit.”

    2017-09-29 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Jon Lansman One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  27. “It's been rising for the last couple of years. It started really during the early part of that leadership campaign in 2015. And it was a very emotional experience. It's been an emotional journey the last couple of years because it really kind of brought home to me the years in the wilderness. We were locked out of influence for a long time.”

    2017-09-29 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Jon Lansman One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  28. “We want to shift power and wealth to the many from the few, then we are going to come up against the few. I think we have to be prepared.”

    2017-09-29 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Jon Lansman One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source