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Jonathan Ryan

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first: 2019-06-19
most recent: 2019-06-19
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“By ice before she saw any judge, right? So even the city that arrested her and the county where she was detained had no idea that she existed because she was taken from their jail before justice was offered to her. She was sitting in a dungeon in South Texas in 2017. We have dungeons in our country where we are putting the young people who are helping to make our country. And she got out, thankfully I had a conversation with the ICE agent. I explained her very nicely that we had every news station on speed dial and that they would be all arriving within a few hours. I drove that girl home that day from that detention center. She was released so quickly. She then went and got a lawyer and she was found innocent because it was a simple mistake at the cash register at Walmart that led to her arrest. So because her cash register came up short at Walmart, she spent 30 days in a dungeon in Texas in no government day.”
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“And who was arrested, and we were able to successfully get the Ice Bus to turn around and bring him back to San Antonio. About two days after that, I got a call from a family because their daughter was at the Pearsall Detention Center an hour south in the middle of the desert in Texas. This young woman had DACA. She had a work permit. She had a social security card, right? She was in no way different by status than Erica who sits here with me. She had a year left on her card. This is early in the Trump administration. She worked at Walmart and her cash register came up short at the end of the day, so she was escorted to the manager's office where there was a police officer who then took her to our county police department, where she spent about 12 hours before Ice picked her up and brought her to this detention center outside of town. She had been in that detention center for 30 days by the time that I got to meet with her. There was no charging document against her. She was not in the ICE database, right? Nor was she any criminal database because she was taken”
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“And it's not just this idea of the police going out and knocking on people's doors or pulling them over and then sending them to ICE. That's, you know, a lot of, there's a lot of fake sanctuary cities out there to tell you the truth that will tell you, oh, yeah, we don't go out and we don't ask people for their papers when we pull them over. We don't go into people's homes and take them. But most of the deportation machine actually happens inside jails, right? And it's when people are arrested either falsely or under suspicion of committing a crime, and it's inside the jail that ICE goes. Because, I mean, that's the barrel where the fishes are, right? They go in there, they're given complete access to those facilities, even though they're civil law enforcement. But the law enforcement will allow them in. There's info sharing run by tech. Thank you very much, guys, that allows shared databases so that ICE can then go and look in at who is in those facilities. And just one example, I know we need to wrap up, but I represented a woman in San Antonio. We helped a young man who had DACA.”
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“That's super important. Thank you so much for that question. And there's just so many things that happen within each city and each municipality, even within counties that a lot of people don't know about. One of the campaigns that we have right now in Reises with other partner organizations is to get basically eyes to stop collaborating with local police. There's many reasons. I mean, one reason is that if you're a domestic violence victim and you're afraid to call the police and you're an immigrant, that's not making people feel”
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“Narrative and changing that cultural narrative, all of this talk of comprehensive immigration reform is not going to have anything but further the damage that our current laws cause. We need to change culturally how we think about refugees and immigrants in our country. That goes for lawyers. That also goes for tech because tech, you too are downstream of culture. You know, you are building and you are streamlining and making efficient the culture that we have today, but we've got the wrong culture. We need to focus together on shifting that culture so that we can then build the laws and build the tools that advance not our weakness but our strengths.”
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“And actually get on the pathway to citizenship. So there's many, many ways that you can nip and tuck the laws to improve them. But I think moreover, the current laws exist, and there are actually great laws on the books. The problem is that adjudicators have very little discretion, and those who do have discretion are going home and they're watching Fox News and they're coming back into that adjudicator's desk, completely polluted with the ideas that are being spewed to them, and they're making decisions based on that misinformation. I think before we look at the law, we need to back up and we need to take a wider approach and we need to reframe the issue of immigration in our country. And we need to start realizing immigrants belong in this country, this otherization that we have created is a cultural wrong. And I believe strongly as a lawyer that law is downstream of culture. And that is why we as lawyers, I think at RISIS, have had an awakening over the past five years, that unless we are engaged in that culture,”
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“I mean, I'm an immigration lawyer. I've been practicing immigration law for about 15 years. I could tell you a myriad ways that through Nip and Tuck, you could make significant adjustments to the current law. If you think of what Ronald Reagan passing the ERCLR, the Amnesty Law back in 1986, at that time, you know, they were providing legalization to folks who had been in the country for four or five years. If you could prove that you had been in the country since 1971, you could get a green card. If you could imagine an updated version just of the Reagan law of 1986 brought up today, this would provide a legalization pathway for millions of people who are in this country. There's an interesting application called 10-year cancellation that you can give to an immigration judge basically showing you've been in the country for 10 years. You've got U.S. citizen family who are going to suffer hardship. You can stay and get a green card, but that's only available to people who are in immigration proceedings. There is no affirmative way to actually present that application to the U.S. government.”
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“And so if you're shrinking and shrinking, the amount of people who can come to the US, guess what? If they're suffering in another country, they're probably going to find a way to come. So I think that's one, and again, there's so many ways that a lot of things that we need to do fix the system, but definitely rethinking the way in which people can come to the US is one of them. And I don't know if you want to.”
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“And the problem has been that if you have been in the immigrant rights movement, I've been around for 10 days, it feels like 10 years. And what I've noticed is that the issue has been literally a political football. It's neither party wants to fix it. And it's frustrating. Republicans and Democrats always blame each other around it. And so we haven't really had the willingness for many party to actually fix the system. So it's been decades where we don't necessarily have as many visas to countries that need visas to come into the US. Again, they're trying to bring people from countries who have the most educated, the most wealthy people. Well, you know, guess what? Poor people also want to come into the US and we have to have a way to bring them. And so we need to raise the visa caps. We need to make sure that we are actually taking more asylum seekers.”
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“If it wasn't for our asylum law, then Einstein wouldn't have made it to the United States. If it wasn't for our refugee system, then Sergei Brim's family wouldn't have made it to the United States. If it wasn't for asylum law and refugee law, then Steve Jobs' father would not have made it to.”
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“To make sure that we are giving more humane treatment to these folks who are coming, turn themselves into the government. And like I said, we need to fix the system so that we have more ways of people coming into the country to seek for a better life that is not just the brightest. The reality, or that's how Trump calls him, but the reality is that there is a lot of people who are great, bright, and amazing who can come here, but there's also people who are running away from terrible conditions, poverty, violence, and everything else. And we can just look away. We can't just look away because the looking away part is just not working.”
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“Do you have a problem? So we need to fix it. I honestly think that our current president is not going to fix it. He's going to make it worse. So we got to make that change. In the current situation, what we got to understand is that we have a militarized border that is trying to fix the problem by having more military and treating people as if they are in a war zone. The fact is that people are turning themselves into them. People are coming in many times sick or they get sick in the custody of border patrol. Six kids have already died in border patrol custody in the past few months. Six children. Why? Because again, their emphasis is ice boxes because they're placing terrible conditions and there's no medical attention. Like we had one of our clients again or the people we represent, a child who was, he was saying, like, I'm sick, I'm sick, give me something he was giving, I think, at the tylenol or something like that. He ended up dying of the flu. And so why don't we try right now?”
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“First of all, it's really putting a band-aid on the problem, right? We have a bigger problem, and I think most people know that the immigration system is completely messed up. We don't have right now the ability to let a child, as Jonathan was mentioning, who really wants to succeed, who wants to have a better life, who's myself. I mean, I'm a Mexican, I'm a dreamer, I'm a doctor recipient. And so I usually talk about people in the third if I wasn't, but I came from Mexico. I literally cross the border with my mom. I took me three days to get to the US, from Mexico when I was 11 years old. And so I know what this immigration system looks like because of my personal experience of ice coming to my own house and taking my mom from us when I was 21. And so I know what the system looks like and I know it needs to be fixed. Right now we”
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“Where folks are fleeing from to where they don't feel the need to flee anymore. You know, I'm Irish. One of my colleagues as well as Irish. When I went home, I was born there. I was born on the way over, but didn't get the cool accent. So when I went home over in the 80s, I was visiting literally a third world country. I was going from Dallas, Texas to a third world country. It was palpable and noticeable. Tech has completely revolutionized and changed my country through its investment, through its education, and through its offering of jobs. So, I mean, why not open up a new headquarters in Guatemala? Why not provide opportunity for coding for becoming engineers to these children who, frankly, I've been working with for the last 15 years are the best, are the brightest, are the most motivated and wanting to succeed kids that I've ever met. Let's give them that opportunity.”
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“Give them two years to do whatever they want. So it's not a matter of the government of tech pulling out and the government'll take the government, what, three, four, five years in order to replicate that level of services. So those companies that currently are doing the bidding of the government under this guise of patriotism, that it's our job to do whatever the government to make our government the most powerful government, instead of trying to beat Chinese tyranny with a form of American tyranny, we need to build tech on the basis of the ideals that did make this the greatest nation in the world. I think that it's clear if Amazon, if Microsoft, if Salesforce, if Hewlett-Packard and Dell and all these folks that are basically the backbone and the real operations of ICE stood up and made a statement and refused to participate, they would end this because the government cannot do it. Moreover, together you have the power to make real and lasting change in this world, particularly in these areas.”
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“It would certainly be worse. I think that what the companies right now that are holding the power need to recognize that the government could not do what it is doing now without them. And what we have seen over the past two years, we don't want to exempt former administrations. Certainly, there's only been one president that has had eight full years with the Department of Homeland Security at his disposal, and that was President Obama. And you can Google us and you can see we were just as strenuously advocating against Obama's immigration policies as we are now. He did build the machine that all Trump had to do was get into and step on the gas. And what we have seen is a scaling up and a quickening of the efficiency of this tyrannical operation under the Trump administration. Lawsuits take about two years, three years to see a decision. In that time period, our government wantedly and openly breaks the law, goating lawsuits, knowing that that's going to basically”
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“Could create other companies, or the government could begin to bring these services in house, right? I mean, another way they could do this is that Congress could decide it needs to appropriate the money for ICE to develop its own massive network of servers and so on, and maybe that would be worse.”
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“And I think it's a false premise, I think, to say if it wasn't us, then it would just be someone else. That's literally not the case. It echoes, I think, what was said on the stage yesterday by somebody who said, well, if you don't like our services, just use another service. Well, excuse me, but there is no other service but AWS that has 200 plus of the security certificates that are required to do contract work with the government. So there isn't another company that the government can go to.”
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“Yeah, I mean, there's two parts to this. It's first, what you're doing to literally create, well, it wouldn't be creating, but it would be enabling this machine of deportations and dehumanization at the border. You're enabling that, but providing your services and not only providing your services. I mean, it's not like people are just there using Excel sheets from Microsoft.”
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“Absolutely, that there is no red line that if it's legal, they're going to do it. Well, excuse me, sir, but my company, thanks to the $20 million that we received, now has numerous lawsuits against the federal government, along with the ACLU, and we will prove in court that these laws are unconstitutional, that they were violating the law when they did this. And if tech wants to walk hand in hand with our government in this experiment and tyranny, then go for it. But we will be here when that music is over and there will be no chair for them to sit when everybody's sitting down. You're seeing the uprising in the ranks of tech engineers who will refuse to work at tech companies knowing that these people who went and became the best and brightest and wanted to use their tech skills to improve the world who are now coming to learn that they are working for the very instruments of tyranny that right now is being practiced against the other on our borders. All governments dabble in tyranny. That is why we”
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“Saw in terms of large industrial companies assisting governments under the law at the time to wreak havoc against people. We have seen that from IBM assisting the German government to create their punch cards and keep their trains running on time from our own Dow Chemical here assisting in the creation of Napalm for the use in Vietnam. These were all lawful activities at the time which have since been found to be unlawful. And when he says here, I was beside myself quite frankly when he here was saying that they will do that there is no red line.”
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“Very, very happily, and because it was not just disingenuine, it was an attempt at overt hand washing in response to the rightful uprising of Salesforce employees against the fact that they have this $50 million contract with the Border Patrol. I mean, Mark Benioff said to Kara himself that he thought that it was absolutely the right idea to work with ICE. And we've heard this line echoed again and again and again from Andy Jassy, who sat in these chairs yesterday to Brad Smith of Microsoft, to Mark Bennyoff of Salesforce, to Alex Carp of Palantir saying that it is our role as tech to make sure that this government has access to the best tech in the world that we are being patriots by assisting our government. This is a lesson, I'm afraid, to say that we have learned in history, and I feel too young to be kind of the harbinger of this news of what our own last century is.”
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“A wide audience, of course. You've got Dell that's providing all of the services and help desk to ICE officers just doing basic services. And everybody wants to claim that they are just providing some discrete service. Salesforce, of course, is basically the backbone of the HR and hiring operations.”
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“That's Palantir. You could talk about Amazon, Microsoft, Hewlett Packard runs the NOC for the network operating center. Come on, you guys know what a NOC is. We got to.”
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“Facilities which had the consequence of completely chilling any other sponsors from coming forward. We've seen this. One of the largest providers of legal services in the country to unaccompanied children who are held in government custody on any given day, we're providing certain legal services to roughly 1,000 children. And when the government engages in these large-scale military bases like the tent city in the desert that took place last year, we're the organization that goes in and provides legal services. And we've seen the length of time that these children spend doubled over the past few years because the government engaged in a shock and awe op against those sponsors by arresting a number of them, which has now chilled all sponsors from coming forward. So we've seen a massive decrease in the number of people. These are family members, close family friends who traditionally came forward whether they were undocumented or not to sponsor and take these children out from government custody has completely declined.”
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“The tech industry deserves a lot of blame for what is happening at our borders and assisting and enabling our government to bring to scale and into more efficiency this devastating, I think, violation of human rights that's occurring on our border and inside this country. If you look at companies like Palantir who offer their facial recognition software to ICE, this basically ran a program using Palantir to arrest the sponsors who did come forward to receive the children that were in government detention. They engaged in a pilot program where they would use Palantir to assemble basically like a Facebook for ICE's personal Facebook so that they could identify the sponsors, locate them, and arrest them. And they arrested about 400 in a period of a few months sponsors of children who were in these facilities.”
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“And I can tell you how it looks like in many ways. If you guys can actually picture right now, a lot of our clients and the people we represent, they're literally kids right now and military camps who recently have been denied even plain soccer. Concentration camps, in my view, as we've been there and we work with these families, or are we going to actually find solutions to the problems we're seeing in Central America at the border and in these countries since we're also deporting people in Terrance family apart?”
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“Because it is considered the defense of our country, because we made a decision after 9 11 to take immigration out from the Department of Justice, which has the mandate of seeing that justice is done into this newly created Leviathan of the Department of Homeland Security, which had the mandate of stopping another 9-11. And so we have now conflated these two issues of immigration and anti-terrorism. Into something that is basically serving to Vulnerable people Who are actually fleeing that terrorism and violence that we are trying to end?”
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“Idea that the border has become a constitution free zone. Can you talk a bit about what you mean by that? Well, I think what people don't realize is that the border is not this thin line in the sand between US and Mexico. Under our government law, the border actually extends up to 200 miles into the United States, which if you do the geographic math amounts to about two-thirds of our country. And as you approach the border, the power of the executive starts to increase almost to the level of war powers.”
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“And that's lawful. That is something that you are guaranteed under American law. It's not just lawful, it is the only lawful way to gain asylum. We hear this bleeded out by the administration that folks should be requesting asylum in their home countries. First, there is no mechanism for folks to request asylum in their home country. The Department of State has a presence in those consulates. They don't do asylum. That is done through the Department of Homeland Security, which is an interior agency to the United States. Moreover, to walk into a US consulate while you're in the most violent place in our hemisphere, request asylum, you are basically marking yourself for retaliation in that community. It would be a death sentence for someone to go in and request asylum in a dangerous country and then wait supposedly in that state of danger for something to be processed. You have to come to the United States to gain asylum. Erica, something you had said to me that the two of you were talking to me about backstage was to say”
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“I mean, what we are seeing right now is that there's a big misconception that there's a massive people coming into the country illegally, they're crossing the border. That's not the case. People are literally coming to turn themselves into border patrol agents saying, I'm afraid of going back. Here's my reason. They get apprehended and then their nightmare completely starts then. I mean, it probably was a nightmare even before leaving and through the journey through Mexico. But once they get into the United States, then they start this whole process of requesting asylum into the US. And so what they're doing is basically, I mean, they are turning themselves in. They're not necessarily crossing the border and just walking into the country for the most part. Majority of people who are coming right now are doing it in that way.”
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“The US Mexico border. And we're seeing a lot of violence. We're seeing people being disappeared. I talked to an advocate last week who, as she was on the bridge trying to help a mother and three children, ask for asylum and were denied, they were kidnapped right in front of her. And she was powerless to do anything about it. Erica, isn't this against our laws?”
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“At the border right now, week to week, what are you seeing? We're seeing a terrible situation that week to week is getting worse. Right now, many people might not be following this story, but our government is denying folks who are approaching our border through lawful process of requesting asylum at a port of entry and basically telling them that they need to wait in Mexico for the duration of their court hearings. So we are seeing thousands of women and children from Central America, some of the most vulnerable people on our earth, in our hemisphere, fleeing the most dangerous places on Earth outside of active war zones who are following this instruction that we have been broadcasting as a country for the better part of 75 years, that we are the beacon of hope and freedom across this world. And they're coming here seeking protection. They're being denied and they're being left to languish in the streets, in overcrowded churches, in some very dangerous cities along the streets.”
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“Border are enabling literal tyranny. It'll be proven to be on the wrong side of history. We have seen that from IBM assisting the German government to create their punch cards and keep their trains running on time. From our own Dow Chemical here, assisting in the creation of Napalm for the use in Vietnam. These were all lawful activities at the time, which have since been found to be unlawful. You can find full coverage of this interview and everything else from the Code Conference at Vox.com slash recode. But now let's go back to Scottsdale, Arizona to hear my interview with Jonathan Ryan and Erica Andiola from Rice. Be a different kind of On the stage in a moment are the leads of When the family separation crisis was beginning to And wife, who are early Facebook employees, decided they want to donate money to someone.”
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