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  1. A competitive world, what's your differentiation? The other people are working eight hour weeks and you're working 40, and you think you're going to win, you'd better be lucky or amazingly good, or both.

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  2. You can play that out, but that's where you kind of go, okay, I am playing this as hard as possible. Now, the sleep is for the week is kind of a fun metaphor. I'm actually, I think making intelligent decisions is really key to how you learn and do everything else. And you need to be getting enough sleep that you're cognitively functional, that you're making decisions the right way. So it isn't, oh yeah, stay up two nights. That's great. It's like, no, no, no. It's a marathon and your cognitive processing and the decisions you're making are super important.

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  3. You have to understand what game you're playing. There are games you can play with work life balance. That's what you want to do. Great, right? Like, no harm, no foul, good thing to do. If you're doing a startup, which is the metaphor I use is you're jumping off a cliff, assembling an airplane on the way down. You're all in. There is no work-life balance there. You assemble the plane or you crash on the ground. And so at that point, yes, you need to rest enough that you can play, it's a marathon, not just a sprint.

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  4. In fact, it's my conversations on the subject with Joey and other entrepreneurs that has got me thinking more seriously about this question of wellness, not just when it comes to the individual, but how it can be scaled throughout a company in a measurable way that boosts the bottom line.

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  5. Was coding all night trying to be CEO in the day, and once in a while would squeeze in a shower. Striking the balance between work and rejuvenation is something I still struggle with. My good friend, Joey Ito, will tell you so Joey is the director of the MIT Media Lab. Here's what he told one of our producers when they interviewed him about my idea of letting fires burn.

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  6. Before I go further, I have to admit that I'm a very flawed spokesperson on this particular theory. I have at times used the phrase sleep is for the weak. But my defense, I was being somewhat tongue in cheek. Well, for the most part. Don't really think sleep is a sign of weakness. If I know that I have a particularly creative project coming up, I'll make sure I get eight hours of sleep the night before. But a younger, less wise me would often limit sleep to continue the thrill of the entrepreneurial chase. Those super late nighters to ship a new product are far behind me. But I can't deny I look back on those days with a hint of fond romanticism, as do many of my previous guests on Master's a scale.

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  7. So, the really key thing is to realize that learnings very rarely, I mean, occasionally come from one data point, then you have your network to help you understand it, analyze it, understand what the bees, the key learnings are. But frequently it's multiple data points, and then you integrate across them. And that's how you understand.

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  8. Two things. So one is integrate data from multiple data points. So, for example, you have one person saying, that's a terrible latte, and a bunch of other people are like, oh, great. And they're regulars and they're coming in. Well, you got multiple data points. So the likelihood that that's a terrible latte is much lower. So multiple data points is super helpful. And sometimes it's tricky to get multiple data points or compare apples to apples versus apples to oranges and to make that happen. But multiple data points is very useful. And then also, and this gets to the second point, which is ask your network, right? Ask people, you know, say, oh, I'm having this experience, how should I interpret it? And those folks should be able to say, well, like for example, if I had been friends with a young Julian, so, well, I'll come in. I'll try your latte. I'll tell you what I think. And I'll tell you what I actually think. Like I'm not going to go, oh, it's great. It'll be like, no, I'm trying to help my friend. Oh, this is pretty good. I don't know what the problem is. And by the way, that's how you get a second data point.

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  9. It's not about the latte. It's a deceptively simple statement, one that can save you a lot of time and effort if you learn the lesson well. Because what sounds like direct feedback, the kind of feedback that calls for clear action is often something quite different. If Julia had taken that customer's feedback at face value, she would have tied herself in a knots trying to satisfy impossible demands, and she'd never have mastered making a great latte.

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  10. Julie was learning to hear what people said and react to it in real time. It's a skill she developed not only in the dance studio, but in all the jobs that would follow. She learned to listen to what people say and then cut to the core of what they actually mean, and she learned fast. Like the time she was working at a local coffee shop.

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  11. Exactly Next rule recognizes that some of our biggest lessons in life come not only from mentors and teachers and friends, but the people who give us a much harder time. Rule 9. Learn from the jerks.

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  12. So you think, I'm going to be pivoting too. So let me pivot intelligently and early. That doesn't mean you don't have persistence. That doesn't mean you don't try the hard thing a couple of times every so often, but you're knowing that pivoting is part of the game.

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  13. But what you do is if you're good and rigorous about asking yourself the question, call it every year and going, well, do I now have more confidence or less confidence in the past I'm in and I'm testing, I'm talking to my network, I'm asking about it. Because by the way, sometimes a test is, hey, do you think the symbion thing is going somewhere? And you go, I hear from a bunch of smart people. I don't think it's going anywhere. Okay, do I really know something they don't? Which I might. Sometimes that's the bold thing. But consider trying to get to your pivots early and think everyone pivots. The view, because this is the whole survivor's bias thing you just talked about, is everyone loves to tell these narratives of, well, one, I was two. I knew what I was going to do when I was 40. Yeah, it sounds good. And it was a straight line that was kind of smooth sailing. The wind was at our backs. It was kind of unproblematic. It's always fiction. That's not true.

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  14. Right. So, part of what the key is the mistake that people make is they go, oh, when the company is shutting down, now I pivot. And you're like, no, no, no, no. You actually want to be asking yourself the question, should I pivot? And you want to ask that question before the market hits you in the face with a 2x4? And that's true as an individual too. You're kind of going, you shouldn't be going, I get to the end of a decade and I go, I really should have done something different nine years ago. That's a mistake. Yeah. Right.

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  15. The framework I use for this is the same framework I just outlined, which is what you do is you say, I got a plan A, right? That's kind of idea one for this. And then it's not working and I'm adjusting maybe my goals are. I'm adjusting what I'm doing. Those are kind of ideas, two, three, four. But as you begin to realize that on this path, the ideas that you're testing and aren't working are getting worse and worse, you want to pivot early. Okay.

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  16. An additional point that's really important, and I think we may get to this later too, but it's always oriented, always get back in the game and keep playing. It's part of the grit point. Right now, the point of that doesn't mean always keep trying to do the same thing until it totally crushes you. You need to pivot and change, but staying in the game is part of how you win.

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  17. The other thing that I like about it is that part of how I advise people when they think about macro pivots and changes is you kind of measure what your ideal flow is. And so you go, well, in order to make this intuition work, I've got this idea. I've got idea one, I've got idea two, I've got idea three, I've got idea four. And part of how you go, well, maybe that intuition's wrong is you go, okay, so I've now tried five ideas. Is my sixth idea as good or better than the average or the kind of set of the five ideas or am I now in a substantially worse ideas than I had before? And now the idea, because you get ah, no, I'm now kind of scraping at the bottom of the barrel for the ideas to make the intuition work. And that's when you pivot the intuition. That's when you may say, you know, I tried five different ideas, doesn't really work. I'm now going to go for a different intuition.

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  18. And maybe I should abandon this idea. It's very hard when you're the author of the idea. You go, but that's my value. That's my idea. That's my value. That's the thing I have that's unique from everyone else. More often than not, greater than 50% of the time, you're going to have to give up on that idea, right? And that's hard for people. And that's one thing that's really useful about Mark's break of, you know, kind of a winning intuition versus a potentially losing idea.

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  19. You need to actually correct for that. But frequently, one testy of the intuition does not tell you. You actually have to test through a sequence of ideas. And what allows you to do is acknowledge you might be wrong about this. Where people frequently go wrong is they go, I'm so right about the intuition, this idea must work, and I keep working at that idea until I literally drive the bus off the cliff, right? And you're like, no, no, no, bad idea. You need a pivot. To figure it out. Actually, in fact, it

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  20. Mark needed to kill the extreme openness of tribe if he wanted to attract more mainstream And take advantage of the But he could not To The

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  21. I'm not as certain as Mark when it comes to fixing percentages on things as hard to pin down as instincts and ideas. But I do believe in being able to recognize a winning instinct as an essential part of being an entrepreneur. And I certainly agree with Mark that you can expect to see a very high mortality rate among your ideas, even if the instinct behind them is right. In the case of tribe, Mark was pursuing three instincts that, separately, would indeed turn out to be spot on. His instinct that real name social networking would be huge was borne out by Facebook. His belief in the power of smaller subcommunity forums powered by reputation found form in Reddit while creating a better way to find jobs and showcase your professional talents. Why, that's LinkedIn. But his idea to pursue all of these instincts with one product was wrong.

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  22. I think Mark is being too hard on himself. It's true that two thousand three was a banner year for social networks. My space, tribe, LinkedIn, High Five Friendster the year before, Facebook the year after, of those only half are still around today.

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  23. You have to relearn because you go, well, that was actually the wrong learning. I now need to adjust that. Fine. But if you have that, then you have confidence that you're making progress. And it isn't just that, well, there's a 20 foot concrete wall, and I'm trying to pound my head against it to go through it. That's never going to work. Your head's going to break before the concrete wall does. But you're going, okay, well, I studied the wall a little bit better. And I said, well, not the concrete wall, the wood wall. I'm going to go after the wood wall. Fine. That's the kind of thing. And if you know that you're learning, you're asking other people, you're trying to figure out what's the way that I do it better, then you're making progress. And Grit's one of the things that comes out of it because part of how you learn grit is you go, well, that was painful and difficult. But then I played again and I did better.

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  24. Simply putting your finger continually in the light socket is not necessarily a particularly good learning experience. So would you want to be doing is you want to be saying, okay, how am I measuring that I'm learning? And so one of the ways that I do it is I come up with principles. So it isn't just I go, okay, I'll take more pain. I'll go, okay, here is a place where I took the pain. How do I play again where at least if I'm failing again, I'm learning new lessons, right? Like I learned some lessons from that time. So you go, it isn't just like, oh, that was painful. Now I'm going to try again. It's like, what did you learn from it? What did you say now I'm going to play differently? Like I'm now going to say, okay, I'm going to, like next time I take on that challenge, I'm going to get two or three friends to do it with me. Or next time I'm going to take on that challenge, I'm going to make sure that I've built up some momentum before I get into it. That kind of thing is, say, okay, that's what I've learned. And by the way, sometimes...

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  25. Actually, in fact, and you go, okay, I pick myself up, I keep going. And what you do is you say, it's something to learn, it's something to get better at. It's the same way as can I express myself in language? Can I pick out a good outfit? Can I, like all the, it's the same thing everyone can learn it. And it doesn't mean that everyone can learn it. You can learn it to be better, and it's super important because basically where things really get tragic is where you take yourself out of the game. You stop playing. And that's you. You decide to do that.

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  26. So I think Grit, some of us have a more natural predisposition for it. Some of us don't. It's a nature, but it's always nature plus nurture. So I think grit can be learned. The principal way is anytime that you run into a difficult circumstance, realize it's a learning opportunity. Realize that it's like, this is where I can learn grit. This is where I can go, okay, I pick myself up, I dust myself off, and I do it again. And we've all encountered it at least in minor ways. Like you play sports when you're in school, you try your hand at art and you're a terrible painter.

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  27. Anything is a prerequisite to success, it's grit, but not every successful person has a clear-cut origin story for their persistent nature. I dived into this observation with Reed.

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  28. Most people would agree that stiffing a 10-year-old girl out of her paperout money is a jerk move, but Stacy wasn't deterred.

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  29. The motor city was struggling as the auto industry's engine faltered and died. Times were tough. Communities were devastated by unemployment and despair. Stacy got an unflinching look at this reality from her very first job the paper route. Stacy shared hers with her older brother.

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  30. You hear it everywhere these days to succeed, you need grit. And the truth is, you need a lot more of it than anyone will ever tell you. You shouldn't just be prepared for rejection. You have to expect it. And this next clip brings that to life. Stacy Brown Philpot is the CEO of TaskRabbit. Here, she talks about her first job and how it taught her grit pretty early in the game. Let's have a listen.

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  31. Let's agree on that. Let me do that. And that's part of what I contribute as part of this being a significant and interesting part of my career path. And then vice versa of, okay, what's the thing that how do I get transformed to this? How does this help amplify my career? And maybe it'll end up being here my entire life. Great. Awesome. And maybe it won't. And that should be great too. Inevitably, some of our tours of duty will turn out better than others. And that's the basis of the next rule. Rule 7. Expect rejection and bounce back.

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  32. Picking any confidential information, but I did take what I learned, and I'm applying it over here. And that sharing of information is super important. And part of it is there's this kind of like, think of how foolish it is to say, well, I'm 20 and I've picked the exact right thing for me for the next 45 years. Like, really? You don't think you're going to learn anything in the next 45 years? You think you did all your learning where you're 20 and you're done? Right. And the world's not changing and all the rest. So it's a good thing. The important thing, and this is part of the alliance in the book, was to say, in fact, staying synced and being forthright and being well allied with the companies, the managers you're working with is super important because you can say, look, what's the magical thing that I can accomplish by working here such that you think that that was a good tour of duty? And what's that thing?

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  33. First book was Startup U. Second Book is The Alliance. This is part of what I was writing about in the Alliance. And part of it was it's no longer career ladder. It's no longer a career escalator. It's a jungle gym, right? And a jungle gym is you're kind of going sideways, you go down, going up, it's like kind of all over. And that's the nature of modern work. And so I think that, and actually, by the way, the whole world's better off for it. The world's better off individuals. They can have essentially multiple careers in kind of different ways. They can learn and stay fresh and be interesting. Businesses can be infused with new talent, with bold ideas and different learnings from different areas and kind of adjust how they think of the market, how they play, how they operate. It's one of the things that makes Silicon Valley magical because actually, in fact, people move around from companies a lot. And so all of the companies are fiercely learning machines because they're all learning together through the exchanges of these biological parts that go, oh, I learned this. And now I moved over here.

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  34. The first was rotational, which is kind of your hired gun, you're doing the work, you're not really tied to the mission. That was Han Solo. The second was a transformational tour of duty, which is how both you as an individual, as an employee are transformed, and how you also transform the organization. Of course, that's Luke Skywalker just beginning his Jedi journey. And then the foundational tour of duty is where your mission is so closely aligned with the organization that the organization as part of your own mission as an individual. And that's the foundational tour of duty where your life's mission is part of growing and the impact of the organization. That's Princess Leia's tour of duty.

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  35. Frame and goal in mind. You fulfill that goal and then sign on for your next tour of duty, either with the same company or Or maybe even a new one. I love this idea of a tour of duty because it just intuitively Me as a millennial. This next clip comes from the episode. Where Reed is the guest, an executive producer. Reid What he calls the Jedi Tours of Duty. And yes, that idea came straight out of the movie Star Wars.

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  36. And now on to the next rule. Rule six. Don't just take a job. Take a tour of duty. The idea behind a tour of duty is that you sign on to Job, or each new assignment within a job with a specific

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  37. There's going to be two types of companies. Those are great at AI and those that went out of business because they weren't.

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  38. The dedication, the wherewithal to do that, and the person says, Yes, I will. Okay, great, take the risk. Listeners, Bob, here, if you listen to rapid response on Masters of Scale, you may be missing half the show because every Friday we release a second rapid response exclusively in the rapid response feed. The guests and topics are just as compelling and timely from Ford CEO to NASA's administrator to the lessons from the Devilware's Prada. It takes about 10 seconds to find just search rapid response wherever you listen to podcasts and hit follow to make sure you never miss an episode. I hope to see you there.

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  39. That definitely could have been a bust. But way to dive headfirst into risk, Shelly. And now we'll let Reed pick up his train of thought. It isn't whether or not you take risk or not. We almost always take risk and everything. Even staying at the police department is actually taking risk. It's a question of taking the smart risks. And this also gets down to the competencies of advice giving. Because if you realize that every path involves some risks and it's risk trade-offs, then you go, okay, so how do we trade it off? And that's part of the reason why the ABZ planning framework because you go, well, look, actually you could move back in the basement. That's fine. And then we help you get the confidence to go out in the world again. And we're all going to agree to do that. Like you could say, look, the conversation is if you take you start this company, you do this thing, it may not work out. Do you have a plan for it doesn't work out? And some of my plans, I moved back to the basement. Okay, great. You can move back to the basement. We will actually, in fact, do that. Do you have a plan of how you get out of the basement? Like, what are you going to do then? And are you going to have the energy?

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  40. Yamamotusan's right hand man was trying to stress the importance of going slow. Americans have an unfortunate reputation of charging into meetings and barking out to do lists. So he was encouraging a gentler approach.

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  41. Shelley started her time in Japan by taking a risk she'll always remember The story begins as Shelley prepares to meet a key colleague for the first time.

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  42. All those executives had chosen Japan, but she knew it had carried them in a direction she wanted to go. So she set herself up to enter a new current. One she believed was particularly risky for her.

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  43. It's out of love But by the way, it isn't whether or not you take risk or not. We almost always take risk and everything. Even staying at the police department is actually taking risk. It's a question of taking the smart risks.

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  44. That then I can feel comfortable going okay, I'm gonna not follow their advice. I'm gonna have heard it, I'm gonna put it in the memory bank, but I'm gonna go, I'm gonna continue on this course of action.

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  45. It is almost always the case that you will have some of that. And the way that I do that is I go, okay, what do I think I know that they don't? And so I get crisp on it. They may be close to it. I may think that they're being led by their own bias. I maybe think that they have something like an emotional decision or something else or a passion decision that is biasing their decision. And I may believe all that. That's great. But the discipline you get to when you say, well, this person's close and they're smart and they're saying this. Okay, what do I think that I know that they don't? And can I articulate myself that with some degree of precision?

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  46. And so, people who go, Look, I see you, and I at least know you some, and I care about you, and I care about what the right outcomes for you. And so, by the way, I'm willing to tell you the hard things. Like, look, I know you have your heart set on this acting career. It's probably not going to work out, right? Like, it's a really long, hard path for you. And I know that you may get angry with me because I'm trying to help you this way. And I'm going to try to do it in the warmest possible, most compassionate way in order to make it happen because I want to show that I care for you and when I'm doing that, and I'm paying attention to it. So those are the kinds of people that you want to be most close in. And yes, they may have some expertise, some knowledge about the world. They may be super smart. All those things are useful attributes. But their ability to stay true to being an ally with you is the really key characteristic around that inner circle.

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  47. For you. Well, those are people who are generally speaking somewhat balanced in their own self. So when they're giving you advice, they actually see you in giving advice. They don't go, well, if I was in your shoes, I would want to do X. But you're not in my shoes. I'm in my shoes. We have different goals. We have different interests. We have different risk tolerances. We have different ways that we play and what we're willing to do.

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  48. First is lots of people have interesting perspectives and interesting experience in various different ways. And the dimension could be knowledge of the world, knowledge of an industry, knowledge of what's going on here locally, their own networks of who the people they know, the kinds of things that there's just lots and lots of knowledge and different things. And so the first thing is to realize that the vast majority of people have something of value and like figuring out what that is. Now, that doesn't mean that everything is a value. So like, for example, I meet a great artist and I go, oh, this person really understands how we order our perceptions. And they're the person I want to ask about that. I wouldn't go ask them about an investment in a company. They just wouldn't know it. It wouldn't be useful. It kind of puts them in an awkward spot and so forth. So you have a whole massive network of potential advisors that it's good to map to. Then what happens when you just say, well, who are the people that are the best kind of inner circle guys?

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  49. There's lots of reasons. So, one is they have a certain amount of objectivity, so they don't have their own ego as invested in, oh no, this is brilliant, this is the exact right thing, etc. So they can both see the potential strengths and the weaknesses in a clear way. Second is that they have an investment in trying to help you. So they can say, look, I'm trying to help you get to the better place, whether it's double down or change or pivot. And the third is they have a communications channel that you trust. You trust this person. You trust their interest in you. So that partner, and by the way, this part of the meaning of life is seek out those people. It isn't just your spouse, et cetera, but it's your friends, your allies seeking that out is super critical. And those people, it's more than gold. It's more than diamonds. It's more than platinum. Those are the people that not only give meaning to your life, but also help you steer.

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  50. Friend Greg filters all his photos and she looks at me and she's like, Well, you should add filters. You're right. I should have. I hear stories like Kevin and Nicole's all the time, entrepreneurs take note, an honest partner is always your best source of ideas. Kevin was smart enough to listen. Breakfast room and with a dial up connection in Mexico of all places. Up code on how to change colors and photos. And I made the first filter there on the spot. It's still in the app called XPro. Expro 2 was one of the 11 original filters that Instagram launched with. Each of the distinctive filters added the kind of blurred edges, color wash, and light leaks that gave even mediocre photos a sense of nostalgic meaning. And when Instagram launched, Phone cameras were still primitive.

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