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Josh Barnett

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“Just physical. I wasn't back up to 100% in terms of this power output and Semi was, well, he's always seven foot tall. But this time he was, the first time I fought him, he was 20 or 257 or 260 something, something like that. This time he was like 290. So he was a significantly bigger cat. And he's a big dude. And I just remember being Up against the ropes with him, changing levels, trying to take him down, and he's fighting, he's hipping. And I just thought in my head, there's no fucking way I'm going to lose this fight. There's no way you are not going to beat me. It's not going to happen. And I armbarred him, the other arm. Even after the fact, he's like, man, I really want to get you for that. I want to get that match back. And then you fucking got my other arm, Dick. I'm like, Dude, I still love you though.”
2021-03-01 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #165 – Josh Barnett: Philosophy of Violence, Power, and the Martial Arts · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“There are a few, actually. Fighting Semi Shield and a rematch. Well, the first one was pretty good, too. But the rematch was I was suffered prior the week prior to food poisoning. And so while my abs are looking all right, I in the ring didn't have the power that I expected to. And I was struggling in ways in some of the grappling for the submission stuff that I hadn't accounted for.”
2021-03-01 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #165 – Josh Barnett: Philosophy of Violence, Power, and the Martial Arts · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Clearly, I mean, we have venerated the violent. There are communists that venerate the violent on their behalf. There are National Socialists that venerate the violent there. And then if you remove it from an ideological perspective, we venerate the violent when they're a hero. We venerate the violent in our religion. Well, I mean, I guess some people venerate the violence of Yahweh and Sodom and Gomorrah, right? Or do we say Jehovah? I don't know.”
2021-03-01 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #165 – Josh Barnett: Philosophy of Violence, Power, and the Martial Arts · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“There's nothing that will hold me back other than the referee, and that's that. I know I agreed to be allowed to do and not to do. But within that, no. And I expect it to be done to me”
2021-03-01 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #165 – Josh Barnett: Philosophy of Violence, Power, and the Martial Arts · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Violence, humans, and the broader perspective that allowed me to think about things and like, well, what do I really want to accomplish with my actions in the world just on a whole, you know, not compartmentalizing my sporting career, even when I get in the ring, I don't have any mercy generally. And if I do, it's because I make a really deliberate. Attempt to be in a state where I can have mercy. If I just go in there to fight with everything I got, there is zero.”
2021-03-01 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #165 – Josh Barnett: Philosophy of Violence, Power, and the Martial Arts · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“This is where I feel like. The restrictions of general existence in society are gone. And I get to fully live in a state that feels more meaningful of the most meaning. I think of it as life and death. It's just, it is the way I'm built. And I don't have, I've never had any problem applying violence. Like it doesn't, I don't know where it comes from or how you would define it or whatever if you want to stick me in a psychologist chair. But there's a part of me that can just like, no, if I'm going to apply, I can apply violence to any level and be okay with it. And it doesn't, I don't lose sleep. It doesn't bother me. It's not a problem. It was me learning how to fully understand.”
2021-03-01 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #165 – Josh Barnett: Philosophy of Violence, Power, and the Martial Arts · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I mean, that's a pretty decent orgasms in my life at this point. I'm 43. But no, none have ever compared to that. Like I said, it is a feeling of highest being to me. That's Uber.”
2021-03-01 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #165 – Josh Barnett: Philosophy of Violence, Power, and the Martial Arts · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And Was even kind of comical after the fact, and BJ Penn was on the very card with me, watching him at some point in his career all of a sudden win fights and then do this licking the glove thing and everyone thinks it's the coolest thing ever. And I'm like, hey, fuck faces. I did this in 2002 or 1, 2001. And BJ Penn actually back then was like, dude, you're a badass. You're a killer.”
2021-03-01 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #165 – Josh Barnett: Philosophy of Violence, Power, and the Martial Arts · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And all the MMA journalists freaked out. Dana Weiss like, man, I don't know about that. We don't want him doing, everybody had this huge problem. And then some folks would even contend with, oh, you know, you're trying to do like, no, no, no. This isn't planned. You don't think of these things. This isn't, this is how I really feel. This is who I really am”
2021-03-01 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #165 – Josh Barnett: Philosophy of Violence, Power, and the Martial Arts · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And even, but even then, there's like at times it's socially unacceptable. So I beat Sem Schilt. He cut my right eyebrow. I cut him and busted his nose and he's bleeding all over me as I have an armbar on top. It's raining blood. Quote some slayer from a lacerated Sem Shilt bleeding in his horror creating my structures. Now I shall reign in blood. Win the fight armbar nasty one. I get on my feet and the first thing I do is I wipe all the blood off onto my hands and I lick it and I do my thing.”
2021-03-01 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #165 – Josh Barnett: Philosophy of Violence, Power, and the Martial Arts · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Getting back to the guy that I should have been allowed to become instead of what happened under the pressures of other things. Yeah. And the attempt for society”
2021-03-01 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #165 – Josh Barnett: Philosophy of Violence, Power, and the Martial Arts · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Need to learn what level is necessary, and you need to learn what comes with all, what's the responsibility of when you enact violence. I mean, you take on something. When you have a responsibility for that. This is the extension of your actions. But as I got older, and especially as I found sports, And then combat sports. Now this was a place for me to flourish. And to the point where I was more myself in that space than I was outside of it until time enough where I could learn to get this back together again. And I never say that That I'll merge the two or anything like that. No, all what happened my journey from adolescence on to manhood, a huge portion of it besides the normal finding yourself, whatever, whatever, actually what it was was getting back to who I always was. That”
2021-03-01 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #165 – Josh Barnett: Philosophy of Violence, Power, and the Martial Arts · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, it was never a problem for me. In fact, if anything, the over what I had to understand was, well, not only did I learn the hard way, that it doesn't matter. The end of the day, it doesn't really matter what anybody else does. If your response in violence, even to their violence, if you're the winner, is often going to be penalized severely. Society, state apparatus, they don't want any of that. They want to be the only arbiter of violence in the world always. But I learned a very difficult lesson with that and it was really impactful in a negative way on me. But also I had to learn on an individual sense to you need to manage violence too because, hey, if someone attacks you or starts a fight with you and you go at it, okay, beating them up is one thing, you know, trying to grab a handful of broken glass from the street and throw it in their face. Maybe that's a bit much at seven.”
2021-03-01 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #165 – Josh Barnett: Philosophy of Violence, Power, and the Martial Arts · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“No, not at all. And so being a very joyful and nice kid, but kids are kids. And if kids can find that you respond maybe more easily to agitation, they will agitate you. And if you should stand out in some way by being taller or bigger or something or caring. Especially, they will agitate you. They don't really fully understand it either. And so I don't hold anything against any of the kids that used to pick on me or whatever, especially at the youngest ages. Like, man, they don't know shit either. But once that line was pushed, for me it was, oh, well, I was being cool. Now you're being uncool. Then that gives me license for everything. And so, boom, we would just go at it. Or kids that would try to initiate a Okay. And being in that moment of just going to town with someone else, it just felt like.”
2021-03-01 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #165 – Josh Barnett: Philosophy of Violence, Power, and the Martial Arts · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Joyful and inquisitive and spent a lot of time around older people of all things. And also while I don't think I have much capability toward engineering, my mom said that one of the first things as like a little baby when she put me in my sister's old crib, instead of my sister who just milled about and was fine with it all, the first thing I did was I completely deconstructed it. I didn't break it. I figured out how to pull it apart.”
2021-03-01 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #165 – Josh Barnett: Philosophy of Violence, Power, and the Martial Arts · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“We all have different personalities. And to me, that's an absolute. I don't want to come at me with all your other fucking social sciences crap. No, we have distinct personalities. That personality, who you really are, and this, you know, again, Heidegger Dazzine, like being authentic, if you're authentic with who you are, goods and bads, you will know how to create what that is. And for me, violence and fighting and conflict was something that always felt normal to me. And I don't mean normal in like I grew up in a war zone or abusive household or something like that. I just meant that, and I was a kid who was very...”
2021-03-01 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #165 – Josh Barnett: Philosophy of Violence, Power, and the Martial Arts · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, okay. There's this insane moment that isn't forever, but that it is life and death. And it is in the overcoming it is the thing that all of a sudden gives you that tapping into your high estate, right? This is, you know, man is a chasm, a tightrope between man and Ubermensch. Well, I don't want to leave your thought about we'll call those things flourishes to the aspect of Tyson's interpretation or his expression of his feelings in combat. And so I gave this anecdote to the guy and I just, you know, at my first anecdote to that athlete I was working with and I said, you know, there isn't a superior way in this sense. There is the way that works for you. That may be something you can implement to other people if you find that person.”
2021-03-01 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #165 – Josh Barnett: Philosophy of Violence, Power, and the Martial Arts · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, well, there was an example, less spoke Zarathustra about a snake being down the person's throat and biting it and then having this maniacal laughter erupting. And to me, it was, at least I read it as.”
2021-03-01 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #165 – Josh Barnett: Philosophy of Violence, Power, and the Martial Arts · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“But the power, the feeling of aliveness, yeah, I could see it being, you know, back to even the concept of the Ubermensch. I feel like the states, the highest states of being I've ever been in were in the midst of conflict. I felt like that was the times, those were the moments in my life where I felt like I was at the highest level of being as a human in existence. But yet even being in that state was not it was not something that you could interact with people that weren't in that state with you like they wouldn't get it. You would almost seem and to be that way all the time either A might drive you mad or B is you're not you're something that's untenable to the rest of society like you can't function with everybody else it will not work”
2021-03-01 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #165 – Josh Barnett: Philosophy of Violence, Power, and the Martial Arts · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Possibility, yeah, I do, actually, although I don't think that it always equates to arousal for people. In fact, I would say in general, it doesn't. I can say I've never had a boner in the ring. In fact, if anything, you know, old combat cock is like, we're not hanging around. We're leaving. We're going up. Yeah. We're taking off. We don't want anything to do with this. You have fun. Come back to us when you have something warmer, softer, smells better.”
2021-03-01 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #165 – Josh Barnett: Philosophy of Violence, Power, and the Martial Arts · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Another famous high level guy told me about this experience with world champion boxer in Japan. And this guy would get insanely nervous and worked up and anxious before his matches. And he hated it and hated it and hated it. And so he wanted to get rid of that feeling. So he went to a hypnotist for a bunch of sessions and managed to, and he goes in the next fight. Cool as a cucumber and doesn't perform and loses. And so what I said, going back to anecdote one, was Know whatever is necessary for you to get yourself in the best state of being right now to compete whatever that may be, it could be absolute stress and fear. It could be anger. It could be calmness. It could be whatever. But there is a good.”
2021-03-01 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #165 – Josh Barnett: Philosophy of Violence, Power, and the Martial Arts · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And really go to the primitive sense design of necessity so my anecdote for this was I was sitting with backstage before a fight, not my fight. And I'm working with this guy. And this dude is, this is a world champion guy. And he competed at the highest levels. And he looks at me and he goes, You know, you ever get nervous before fights? I looked at him and I went, No, I don't. And he just looks at me. He's like, fuck, man. I'm so nervous. How do you do it, man? I wish I could be like you. And I said, you know what? That doesn't mean that what I'm doing is better. It's just what is necessary for me. It's the way I am. And I told him, so this anecdote goes into another anecdote. This is a family guy episode, I guess.”
2021-03-01 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #165 – Josh Barnett: Philosophy of Violence, Power, and the Martial Arts · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Think some of it is just they're just in denial, like, oh, people will like to espouse a lot of things as theory. And then it's like, okay, let me watch. You're not doing anything about what you said right now. In fact, you're doing the opposite. You're literally hurting that guy because your shit ain't working in the way that you'd like it to. So you're having to use strength. You're having to one of my favorites. Like, oh, you're using too much strength. And it's like, well, hold on. Do we want people not to use strength at this point to understand more of mechanics? Or are you trying to tell people if they use strength at all that they're somehow bad at what they do? Because, you know, it's not my fault. You're not stronger than me.”
2021-03-01 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #165 – Josh Barnett: Philosophy of Violence, Power, and the Martial Arts · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“The difference between the athleticism and the ability to actually win is a pretty wide gap. The athleticism shows up, but then there's all that other extra. And part of that is meanness and pain and getting what you need out of it.”
2021-03-01 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #165 – Josh Barnett: Philosophy of Violence, Power, and the Martial Arts · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yes, and the honesty is what I really like about catch wrestling because I find that we, given any opportunity for us to be dishonest for any number of reasons, we're going to, especially if it's a dishonesty towards a positive, right? Like, oh, well, you know, it's all technique and it's all this and it's the gentle art and blah. Bro, I have rolled with ADCC world champions, some of the best you have ever heard of. There ain't a lot of gentleness when it comes to like, oh, yeah, they wanted to sweep you. And you said, no. And then you said no again. And then you said no and attacked their leg. It ceases to be all that gentle because at the end of the day, these dudes are strong as hell, they're flexible, they're all, I mean, they're, they're.”
2021-03-01 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #165 – Josh Barnett: Philosophy of Violence, Power, and the Martial Arts · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Russians are quite truthful about things, especially when it comes to something like combat. This is how it is. And this is how it's going to be.”
2021-03-01 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #165 – Josh Barnett: Philosophy of Violence, Power, and the Martial Arts · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“The other practiced ballet watching those guys. There's incredible sets you have brothers are massive. Those are the two paths, right? Also caveat a little bit that like if you're approaching this from a Russian perspective.”
2021-03-01 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #165 – Josh Barnett: Philosophy of Violence, Power, and the Martial Arts · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Rob said it originates from all wrestling in that even Wade Chalice, not a Not Classically considered catch wrestler, yet the reason why he has the world record for most amount of world champions pinned or the record for pins in the NCAA is because, well, of course the idea is to put you on your back and opinion, but there's no way you're going to let me do that. So how do I make it so that you want me to pin you? Well, it's by you put them in an excruciating pain. So at the end of the day, you're both there. You both want to win. Neither one wants to allow anything to the other. How do I get you? Lose to me. I make it so unbearable for you that you decide losing is better than staying.”
2021-03-01 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #165 – Josh Barnett: Philosophy of Violence, Power, and the Martial Arts · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Mitsu or Maeda. He's one of the greatest catch wrestlers ever because he's responsible for Brazilian Jiu Jitsu. Along with Gustavo Gracie.”
2021-03-01 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #165 – Josh Barnett: Philosophy of Violence, Power, and the Martial Arts · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I don't know if he was the greatest catch wrestler ever. I don't, I don't, I mean, he's one of them for a myriad of Carl Gotch.”
2021-03-01 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #165 – Josh Barnett: Philosophy of Violence, Power, and the Martial Arts · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I don't even let my well, okay, I try not to let. In most days it's never a problem. Any sort of kids call it now, black-pilled way of thinking. Be my umbrella in which I hang under.”
2021-03-01 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #165 – Josh Barnett: Philosophy of Violence, Power, and the Martial Arts · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Be Would be great. But I mean, you can have I'll put it to you this way. If you have Whole community of Randians and a whole community of ANCOMs. And they could all like, I don't know, toast of London on Netflix. And they love Netflix and they love the internet and they love picking apart Montcomf with you. They love like they like all these things, even the esoteric that they can get on with. But at the fundamental root. Cannot help but go to war because they are literally oil and water.”
2021-03-01 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #165 – Josh Barnett: Philosophy of Violence, Power, and the Martial Arts · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Kind of, but I mean, it's violence is that we need to let this out. And so it is of our kids need to wrestle and play just like animals need to wrestle and play. We need to have forms of competition. We need to have ways to test ourselves, to create when at peace, a man of war makes war with himself. And so we need to be able to competently go at war with ourselves and go at war with our neighbor and go at war with our neighbor's neighbor in a way that is repeatable at the very least”
2021-03-01 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #165 – Josh Barnett: Philosophy of Violence, Power, and the Martial Arts · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, I mean, think about it. Games are also iterated, right? So you start off with your game. And then your game with your immediates and then the game further than that, the game further than that, and then the game today and the game tomorrow and the game next week. And so it never ends. And if you try to keep thinking about it that way, no wonder people go crazy. But we don't want to think about things that way. We don't want to think about being towards death. We don't want to think about whether or not I'm going anywhere after this other than in the ground or what have you like, you know. What?”
2021-03-01 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #165 – Josh Barnett: Philosophy of Violence, Power, and the Martial Arts · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“No, not just I don't look at will to power as being the winner of the game well, I mean, if we're going to get philosophical, yes, you want to be the winner of the game. What does winning the game define how you win? Everybody's going to define that win differently. You know, you could define the win in the most base level like, oh, I got all the things. Well, if you got all those things without the needing component of fulfillment, then you're going to be a very unhappy person with a whole lot of things.”
2021-03-01 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #165 – Josh Barnett: Philosophy of Violence, Power, and the Martial Arts · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“There's that, but I'm just saying that he's got this whole quote on war. Like, war is play. War is a game. And the difference is that what's at stake? So all things are a game of some sort. And you're putting up for it or what you're willing to put up for it determines whether or not you're going to participate or not. And all aspects of any game is war. And it's just what is at stake? You know, if it's your life, it's a different story. If it's just a coin, it's another thing.”
2021-03-01 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #165 – Josh Barnett: Philosophy of Violence, Power, and the Martial Arts · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Would stay the night in a cave somewhere and he would find cave panties and he would write them all down, or he would find old pieces. There's an example of him, the narrator explaining how watching the judge and how drawing everything. He's got this notebook just full of things, drawings and writings and how he found like a piece of armor from a conquistador or something way back in the day, a Spanish armor. And he draws it into his book and then crushes it.”
2021-03-01 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #165 – Josh Barnett: Philosophy of Violence, Power, and the Martial Arts · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, I think from the judge's perspective, it's like, well, I didn't consent to that bird or that dog or this building or all this, like all of this, you know, I didn't create it, so it's done so without my consent. And if it's up to my consent, well, I'll design it how I want to. Another similar look into how the judges in that book is he would study everything everywhere he went. And so he's collected this group of ne'er-do-wells from all over to go on these hunts against certain tribes in the southwest and getting paid by the US government, the Mexican government. He's on these Indian hunts, and yet they're going to all these different places.”
2021-03-01 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #165 – Josh Barnett: Philosophy of Violence, Power, and the Martial Arts · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Is not literal war. It's war of a sorts. It is a diluted form of war. American football is a diluted form of war. These are diluted forms of war. Tennis is a diluted form of war. And I think one of the best explanations I ever got from this and another person very impactful on my life and outlook and thinking about things is Cormack McCarthy. And so in Blood Meridian, there's this fantastic speech about war given by the judge, which there's a ton of fantastic speeches on things given by the judge. All that exists in creation without my knowledge does so without my consent. Okay, that's pretty heavy. That's hard.”
2021-03-01 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #165 – Josh Barnett: Philosophy of Violence, Power, and the Martial Arts · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yes, we will always have war in some form or another. We need. Air quotes for those just listening war to survive. We need war to flourish.”
2021-03-01 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #165 – Josh Barnett: Philosophy of Violence, Power, and the Martial Arts · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Patriotic war. It was a unifier. Of a sense. I mean, Yeah, I mean, you can't argue that war and conflict and or I just even reducing that to stressors, agitation, suffering doesn't create human motivation. We started this off. You brought up Frankl. I'm like, yeah, Frankl's dope. Man search for meaning. Maslow's great. And I talked to you about how I started to think like, man, do the ability for human beings to live and or potentially flourish in the worst environments you can think of is pretty incredible in and of itself and that it's a crazy thought to think that without Frankl and Maslow ending up in concentration camps do they write some of the most important books on philosophy in the 20th century and that's insane on a Lot of different levels.”
2021-03-01 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #165 – Josh Barnett: Philosophy of Violence, Power, and the Martial Arts · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“They still delude themselves. We will delude ourselves over any number of things until even after the fact where the history just says, hey, fuck face. You cannot supplement your pseudo-reality onto actual reality here. But yet we deal with people in pseudo realities constantly. I mean, we will always find a way to change reality to suit our needs.”
2021-03-01 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #165 – Josh Barnett: Philosophy of Violence, Power, and the Martial Arts · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Stalin scene just casually thinking, it seemed like Stalin decided to go, all right, well, we're not going to go just start launching right into more conflicts here. We're going to, these dudes are going down. So that's cool for us because they hate us and we hate them. But now we're going to focus internally and then we're going to work on growing at a slower rate and picking our battles a bit more specifically. And of course, there's, you know, you can get to the even this is after Stalin, but yeah, you got the Besmanov type stuff talking about subversion in cultural aspects.”
2021-03-01 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #165 – Josh Barnett: Philosophy of Violence, Power, and the Martial Arts · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Was as nationalistic as Hitler and was as capable and willing for violent conflict as Hitler for the aims of the state. But he centered and internalized prior to then externalizing and moving outwards. Whereas even maybe prior to him, there was an interest to continually push communism in an aggressive sense following on the momentum from the 1918 revolution. And the halting of that through various aspects, I guess in Germany, part of that was the National Socialist. They came up and then they were the other ones to fight the communists. And so you had the two totalitarians going after it. But then in the rest of the world that was not dealing with totalitarian aspects, it was just it wasn't going to stick, especially in the West and other places.”
2021-03-01 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #165 – Josh Barnett: Philosophy of Violence, Power, and the Martial Arts · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Decisions, I think we also have to consider the different trajectories and where and when they were making their decisions. And I mean, not by time specifically, but Hitler engaged into this conflict across multiple continents. And then that everything that comes with basically fighting the whole world. Stalin had his conflict, and then he really mostly compartmentalized the rest of it. So he was dealing with his own internal instead of dealing with the internal and the external. So if Stalin was put under a world war scenario, I don't know, maybe he would have eventually lost his marbles too.”
2021-03-01 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #165 – Josh Barnett: Philosophy of Violence, Power, and the Martial Arts · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I would say that's probably true. Stalin was just outright. Brutal. He had his five year plan, he had all those other things.”
2021-03-01 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #165 – Josh Barnett: Philosophy of Violence, Power, and the Martial Arts · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“That's what Peterson kind of concept. Also, Jonathan Haight has a thing about the difference between hate and disgust mechanisms and things like that. And so he goes into looking at Hitler and his through his diary entries and journals and stuff like that to look. And see it more as the discuss mechanism than also try and see if there's any evolutionary biological attachment to this, whatever. I mean, you're right. He is a human being. Any of us, we're all human beings. It's not that... It's probably jarring for people to think, but we're. We're all, I guess, supposedly potentially capable of just being in all these evil people in the world think they're doing it for the sake of good. Which makes them the most dangerous.”
2021-03-01 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #165 – Josh Barnett: Philosophy of Violence, Power, and the Martial Arts · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“You know what? That's the thing. Even there's something in, there's probably things in Mein Kampf that are not the surface level read. If you get all hung up on all probably all his crap about his anger, anger at Jews and this and that, all this crap, it's like, okay, yeah, that's right on the surface Try to get below that. Try to see how he is creating the Jews as a cope somehow? Like, how is he using, why are they his scapegoat? And I mean scapegoat in the So Rennie Girard's concept of the scapegoat. I mean, in that sense, whereas Hitler uses, wants to make the Jews, the scapegoat for World War I.”
2021-03-01 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #165 – Josh Barnett: Philosophy of Violence, Power, and the Martial Arts · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“As I was reading it, like the same human behaviors, the same impetus for action that he found Like, well, that's the same shit now. Like, we're not, and this is the thing, and then I'm reading more religion. I go, oh, we're no different than anyone who wrote the Torah or older. We are the same thing with the same problems, with the same psychological issues, the same human behaviors. Like these things are not different. And we haven't changed”
2021-03-01 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #165 – Josh Barnett: Philosophy of Violence, Power, and the Martial Arts · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Anybody could, the fact that they have some overlapping thoughts doesn't make it lifted, not to mention go read more philosophy and see how there's so many different things. Oh, this guy said it in 1722. Well, and then this guy says it again in 1922. Does that mean he read the other guy's stuff? Not necessarily. I mean, he's working from the same type of human physiological construct as anybody else. Of course it's possible that this guy could think the same thing. We think a lot of the same things, to be perfectly honest. I mean, reading the Hagakuri, going back to philosophy books, this was really impactful on me as a younger adult because here's a book written in the 19th century about someone who lived through the 19th and 18th century at times as a samurai, now a monk. And his objections to society at the time, the same objections, one was having to society.”
2021-03-01 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #165 – Josh Barnett: Philosophy of Violence, Power, and the Martial Arts · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source