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Juan Pablo Villarino

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first: 2018-07-03
most recent: 2018-07-03
sittings or episodes: 1
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“Yeah, sure. I mean, you can get out of the street at 1 a.m., go to a kiosk and buy a drink and whatever you want. Sure. That's Latin America. It's like that.”
2018-07-03 · Conversations with Tyler · Juan Pablo Villarino on Travel and Trust · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“pattern you know it's very strange it was the icon of the us looks like a like an aboriginal art piece but then yeah i would basically how the city i mean arlington now how the city gets depopulated at night after 8 p.m there's no very few people on the streets at least in the downtown nobody lives there it's just like offices blocks and buildings so this is a bit curious for me because i'm used to living in a more lived-in city you know”
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“It is because I was actually for a week in Puerto Rico like three years ago. Yes and no officially the US. But let's say it's the first time in the mainland.”
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“I don't think I can recall any song about hitchhiking, probably pros and cons of hitchhiking of Roger Waters. Yeah, that would be.”
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“Okay, this guy, I mean, you can learn from anyone in the strips. This guy is a caretaker, he was a refugee, and now he's talking like a Buddha in Malawi. So I feel like when you have these little encounters with random people, that's when the trip becomes really meaningful.”
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“Was a provider for us at night. And the interesting thing was that all the situations he had to go through and the war and so on. It hadn't converted into resentment but into love. The guy told me first that mountains he said the sentence that I can recall he said mountains are not meant to encounter, to meet, but men are meant to meet. And that's why he opened the house to us. And then he said, we were talking about the international situation and he said about Mr. Trump, I understand him. He said if I could tell something to him in person, I would say that I understand him because he's not a bad guy, he said. And I want to say his words here because he would only dream about coming to the US, but I feel like a messenger now. And he said that he understood he was not a bad guy, but that he hadn't gone through any hardship in his life. And that's why his heart was so hard. And then I...”
2018-07-03 · Conversations with Tyler · Juan Pablo Villarino on Travel and Trust · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“It was like a very dense moment because it shows that you can learn from everyone in these kind of trips. It was in Malawi and we were looking for a place to camp outside the capital in Lilongwe. It was raining like hell. We asked a couple of people. They didn't give us any solution. And then we arrived to a place which looked like these places where they organized like a venue where they organized children birthday parties. Yes. Okay, the place was closed, but there was a caretaker. This guy was 25 year old. He was a refugee from Congo. He had crossed Al-Tanzania on foot to reach there, crossing rivers infested with cocoa rice, being chased by Tanzanian police who wanted to just rise from him. So he had managed to reach there and find this little job. And he allowed us to sleep in this house he was taken care of. So that was like the inversion of the logic, you know, that was the refugee was giving us.”
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“There would be more than one, but I guess that Tanzania, Tanzania, or I don't know how to say it in English, Tanzania. Yes, Tanzania. Okay, yeah, Tanzania was one because there I did find an Africa proud to be Africa, you know, was a bit more different from the place, from the situation I found in South Africa, in which they're having so many tensions, ongoing tensions between groups and ethnic groups. But I really like Tanzania. But now I recall a moment in which...”
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“Agree or disagree. I agree, definitely. Yeah, there are moments, pick moments in which you really feel the whole mystic of the trip embodying there. And yeah, and Africa had several of these moments.”
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“Think that in this sense they are a bit closed minded. So I think that it's easy, it has been easy for insurgent groups to recruit people. And yeah, I have seen the social mechanisms behind it and the way they really some time ago I was in Egypt and there was a school and the motto of the school was that they wanted to produce good citizens and good muslins that they would be able to repeat the Quran by heart. So as long as they keep their goal.”
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“I guess first of all, that people would unfortunately relate just terrorism to the names of these countries, and they would miss the broader picture, which is the whole people living there. But then I can also understand how terrorists come to being, because I've also been in these countries, which they have sometimes, I mean, in a way they are absolutely open to foreigners, but at the same time, it's an easy ground in which to recruit people because there are overpopulation, religiously speaking, it could be very, I think Islam needs an instance of self-criticism. I think these societies haven't been able to go through a process of updating and allowing self-criticism.”
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“They were patrolling, so they stop and say, Guys, we can take you to Kabul, but you have to know that we are the target. The last patrol we sent here was attacked by the Talibans with a rocket propelled grenade, and everyone died in the ambush. And now we are going to see if the territory is better. So you can come with us or you can do the same but walking. And I say, okay, well, we should better stay in the car at least faster. And the next two hours were the most difficult hours of my life. These guys worked with the AK-47 with a finger in the trigger, ready to fight. And they told us actually to have a look at the roofs of the houses because they were expecting snipers. And so, you know, suddenly I was in a narmy scenario that has nothing to do with my life. But I think definitely that was the most, the closer I was to potentially father situation.”
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“He was so excited about my hitchhiking thing, and he said, I want to join you. And he said, yeah, you can, but remember that your life here is much more valuable than mine. take you as a hostage but not really to me because Argentina will not pay any rescue so no and they know that so but we he tried to go to Kabul and we got a ride with an Afghan police”
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“Think definitely. I don't have to think too much about it. It was in Afghanistan because actually they're into hitchhik across the country posed a threat because even though my trip was meant to show the 99.9% of the people there were just like nice people, then I knew there was still the 0.1% that could be harmful. And then when getting close to Kabul, I was hitchhiking actually with an American guy who was a volunteer in Bamiyan province where the big Buddhas used to be carved, you know, before the Taliban attacked there.”
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“And well, sometimes you can get bored, but I think it's, I mean, that's the reason why I hitchhik in the first place, you know, to mix and meet people. So it has never been a matter of money like I do hitchhik in India or places where transportation is so cheap. Sometimes it can be boring to repeat over and over your story or where you come from, what are you doing in each car you board? But it pays off because then the people have such amazing stories to share and it's actually my default settings, my typical approach to explore countries hitchhiking. That's why I do it. So I think it's worth.”
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“I felt that I had to carry it because he needed to get away with that. And if I could help in any way for his rehabilitation, because he had legally already paid for that anyway. He had been in jail for that. So I thought I had to take it with me, and I did.”
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“But I think the most interesting one in the lift was in the list, it was an Italian guy who he didn't give me a ride, but he hosted me in his house. And then after many bottles of wine, he acknowledged he had been in jail for trafficking drug between Naples and Milan, and that he had done terrible things. An hour later, he confessed he had killed someone and that he had a bit of his past that he wanted to, like a physical thing from his past that he needed to get rid of and five minutes later he presented me with a knife.”
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“And he had all sorts of traumas that the Spanish health system hadn't been able to solve, it seems, and he was, you know, every time he would go down the track, it would be just for to fight with someone. He wouldn't be able to establish normal relations. After a day and a half of traveling, when I left, he was just crying over the wheel because he had been able to build a relationship with someone inside the truck one day and a half. It was so difficult for him then to see me leave.”
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“Okay, so there's something called taxicab effect, and it translates into people telling you all sorts of secrets after giving you a ride, you know, like from most simple things like someone picking me up, like it was like a rural working in Argentina and telling me, hey, you know, I have just been with another woman, which is not my wife. It was just jumping around and telling me all details I didn't want to hear. But then I had all sorts of people, I remember a truck driver in Spain who took me all the way to Italy. I was like one day and a half of driving. And he had been in the foreign legion and he had been in the Iraqi war in the Gulf War.”
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“Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And I'm fine. So that doesn't mean that it's 100% pink experience in which everything is going to be fine. You definitely have to know your limitations and your own template and it must not be your first trip for sure. But I think that the general difficulties of traveling as a woman are not really different from the general difficulties of living as a woman in our society.”
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“Yeah, it's a good question. There have been, and I know, actually some of my inspirations having girls traveling along by hitchhiking. One of them is Kinga Free Spirit, just like a nickname, like a Polish girl who hitchhiked around the world from'98 to 2003 and did amazing stuff. I was barely there to do crossing from Burkina Faso to Niger on a camel back without not through an official limit and not throw an official border crossing and amazing stuff like that. And yeah, I know a couple of girls who have hitchhike across Africa alone.”
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“That's right. So long trips we do them together always because it requires a year and a half. Our last trip together was Africa from Egypt to South Africa on the eastern side, going through Sudan, Ethiopia and so on, that we did together, of course. But then after that, I came here, she's going to Thailand next month, or she, for example, last year she went to Iceland with a friend and hitchhike around Iceland and they had some project to do some challenges. The audience were suggesting her and her friend challenges to do while traveling. So we do these little side projects on our own. I was in Cuba as well two years ago. But the long trips we do, we always do them together.”
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“I go, yes, a workaholic hitchhiker. I am, I am. People would be so surprised to see how much time there is involved on the backstage, behind the screen, because you hitchhike and you have books and you have a blog. Oh, the blog is so time consuming. When I'm not traveling, I literally spend like 10 hours a day working, either by, you know, making new posts, posting social media, preparing projects for publishing houses. And it's like an eight to ten hours routine. So yeah, I would qualify as a workaholic, I guess.”
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“And what we always do long trips, that means that the shortest one together has been eight months and the longest year and a half. So each trip is made with the idea of making a book afterwards. So after the trip is done, then we go back home and start the book project, which normally takes like another year. So it's 50-50, I would say”
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“So I wouldn't measure of how many months a year, but what happens is we, Laura and I, we always do laundry. That's your wife, Laura. Laura, that's right. For the last eight years, we have been traveling together.”
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“Finland, Denmark, Scandinavia. So slow. That's amazing. Tawi checking in Scandinavia, you see all this row of bolbo cars passing you by, and they will never ever stop. I have talked to a Swedish friend of mine and she just said like, yeah, I wouldn't stop either. She said because it's so cheap and affordable to have a car. Then if someone is hitchhiking and doesn't have a car, you would think he has second intentions on something wrong is going wrong here. What I think it happens is that somehow a society has leading us into a you have your own house when you get out of the house you just move into your little bit of moving private space into your car and it's sometimes difficult to wreak that cycle and you know and be ready to share to me to mix and I think that's pretty much the norm in like Nordic societies. So yeah, it makes it a bit more difficult to hitch either.”
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“It's not a lack of hospitality. So then you should consider different factors when you want to measure how good or bad hitchhiking is in a country. You shouldn't actually only take into consideration the waiting time, but you should consider the amount of cars that pass you during your hitchhiking. So that gives an estimate, but there are many factors that should be considered.”
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“Outlier That's right, but the thing is in the case of Tibet, there were so, I am ambiguous were so scarce because it's just like a plateau with one road crossing it and maybe you would see 10 bicycles a day.”
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“You have thoughts I think that the problem is that we perceive countries just because of what we heard on the news, or either we, most people would only know about Iraq or Sudan, let's say Sudan, they would only know that it suffer a blockade, economic blockade and sanctions from the US in the late 90s. And then people would know about the Taliban in Afghanistan, about the war in Iraq. But then we never get to know about the real people living there under those flags. And that's what I trying to compensate with my travel literature. So I think, yeah, you can say it's a contradiction, but I would say it's the way that information is treated. Stereotypes and the way the kind of news that the media like to show is always about either the worst or the things going on between leaders. But the normal people, they just never make it to the headlines.”
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“People, countries which are not so far from, let's say, which they are used to share resources for whatever reason, being religious or being because they were part of the communist bloc, which also developed some social structures in which sharing resources was very common. So then it's easy today to hitchhike in Romania or Poland. So there are many, many indicators or things that could make that variety. But in general, yeah, I could say that Montesquieu had a point, let's say.”
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“I think it has to do with many things, not only with economical factors, for example, if you go to countries like Ethiopia, in Africa where you can find really poor people by our standards, and then you will not find or receive as much hospitality as I have received, for example, in Muslim countries like Iran or Syria. So this has to do with the way or the place that interdependence has as a value in that society. And for example, in the Middle East, and it doesn't necessarily have to do with religion, but with geographical things. In the Middle East, I have found that people have been through millennial used to depend on each other because of the long distances and living in a desert scenario where you could eventually need the help of your neighbors tomorrow so you help them today. This I have found in the Middle East and the Muslim countries. And I wouldn't consider them poor, but I would put them in a middle scale because if we consider Africa as well, you know. But in general...”
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“Raise its head again, just a t shirt and you know, like normal cargo pants. So I guess neutral. I try to be as tight as I can. And yeah, people pay attention to that. And that's a way to make them develop more trust in you.”
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“So I try always to be neutral. So I really don't think the road is a place to manifest your aesthetic principles. Like if you dreadlocks and a lot of things. So social conformity.”
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“When you manage to get eye contact, then I reinforce, okay, I'm, let's say I'm thumbbing and showing my thumb, but I also switch my hand signal and I point the direction. I point the direction in which I'm going as I'm smiling. And this makes a more personalized link over the general link you're already doing, which is thumbing, you know? And then the way you address, the way your backpack is positioned.”
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“Which ones? Yes, tell us. Okay, so for example, it's like a driver has averagely three seconds to decide or five whether he's going to stop or not. He sees you, he's driving maybe 80 miles an hour, and then you just suddenly pop up. There are a lot of things going on unconsciously through his mind to decide whether he's going to stop or not. So you have only these seconds to convey an image of trust. So then you have to do things. For example, one is smiling, the other one is.”
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“Okay, I think as a rule of thumb, I always like to say that you stop cars with your smile and not with your thumb. So there are actually a lot of things you can do to improve your chances of getting a lift. It's not just like, you know, go there, stick out your thumb, and get the right. And I think, like Reith, definitely smiling as the car is passing, you know, it's a really important thing. And then there are like very subtle things that people wouldn't guess that have an impact and they do.”
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“No, no, I think I buy online, but it's actually interesting to say that my first approach to world geography and history was through stamps when I was a kid. And then I have actually designed trips in order to fit with territories that I had learned about from stamps, collecting old colonies in Africa and stuff like that.”
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“World, not out of an economic condition or out of being poor. There was also a journalist who stated that, oh, he chose the way he wanted to be poor. It's not about that, you know.”
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“It's actually in another city in San Nicolas because that's where my girlfriend comes from. So when we met, it was kind of a pact, you know, like, okay, we're going to leave traveling, but whenever we are not on the road, I want to be near my family. So that was her condition for being nomadic. And so we live there. But we go back there only to break the books because we need a concentration or space or archiv of notebooks and everything. But then we go back to the road and like 50% and 50%, you know, like one year or one year and a half traveling. Then we go back home one year in order to start a book project. But yeah, the thing about stereotypes, people would think they just would feel surprised. I'm, for example, a philatlist. I stamp 19th century, I collect 19th century stamps, and that would be, I think, as far away as a stereotype from Higgers it can be. And then the people just expect you to be like a hippie without it. But I'm also attached to things, but I just decided to hitchhike around.”
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“Just as constricted. It's a nice question. I love that. It's always about stereotypes. Actually, the reason why I travel is because I want to, in a way, dismantle the stereotypes that there are about certain nations, you know, like Colombia or Muslim countries. But as well, there are stereotypes about people, not only about nations. And there is certainly stereotypes about what type of life hitchhiker should lead. So there's people actually having expectations on me. Actually, I don't think I fit with the stereotype if some people have described me in some newspapers as, oh, he leads a nomadic life with no bills, no fixed direction, and no bills or taxes to pay her. But I also have a house and I also, you know, have a point of reference in the world where we have a place. And that's in Argentina, in Argentina.”
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“I think the final what's throwing me into this is the chance to have something to do at least with more and more different cultures each time. So, you know, when a country is mentioned on the news, call it Syria, Afghanistan, Romania, Norway, any country, and then you have something to recall, but it's not abstract. It's not a tag or a flag. But you can recall in your memory, like real people you have related with. And then I think I feel much more threaded with humanity and with mankind in the broader sense.”
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“Simply think it's a better life. I think it's the kind of life I desire and I have desired since I was a student and I think everyone should pursue his or her own dreams. But I don't think it's like a universal formula that should be exported in a massive way than everyone should do this. But then if you look at a world map and when you look at a strange place like Kyrgyzstan or Greenland, and then you feel like butterflies in your stomach, then you should pay attention to sinus and then go for it and not just pretend it's not happening.”
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“Do you think it's just I think actually more and more people should choose their own place in society on the role. So I don't think this is for everyone, but I do believe and the whole, a lot of messages I receive on social media has led me to think that a lot of people actually want this, to have a much more nomadic lifestyle and to redesign their own lifestyle. And that's pretty much what I am aiming to while trying to motivate my readers.”
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“Okay, so I'm a trouble writer. I have been busy in the last 13 years hitchhiking around the world in an attempt, let's say, to document hospitality. And this adventure has taken me over 91 countries, including the United States, which is my last addition to the list”
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