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“And I had stayed in touch. So, yeah, I argue that these are, meanwhile, NBC, New York was looking at people like Scoop Jackson, Henry Jackson of Washington State, Morris Udall. Birch by people who they knew from. This”
2018-08-06 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 262 — Judy Woodruff · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And my argument to NBC was yes, this guy looks promising. At first, they didn't take him seriously. And I said, no, you know, you need to pay attention. They've mapped out the whole United States. He knows people in all 50 states.”
2018-08-06 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 262 — Judy Woodruff · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Don't lose your accent. We're ready, Harry. But yes, so I went to work for NBC. Was still a little bit of a southern accent, but that was, that truly was baptism by fire because I was thrown in with reporters with a whole lot more experience than I had and thrown into stories that were all over the southeast from literally the 10 states of the southeast and the Bahamas. I went to the Bahamas once to cover a hanging. I call myself, or they call me the wildlife reporter. I was covering fire ant plagues in Georgia. Alligator farms in Louisiana and the rest of it. But yes, I was covering Carter, the Carter president.”
2018-08-06 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 262 — Judy Woodruff · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I was. This was an amazing time because I had come from five Political reporter jumping to NBC, which by the way, you know, when I first interviewed with NBC, I went to New York and interviewed the vice president, Dick Richard Fisher, said to me, you know, you need to go back and work on your voice, a little bit too much of a southern accent. He said, just find a voice coach and come back in a year. So I went back, got out the yellow pages, found a voice coach. He called me back a week later and said, we just fired our one of our southeast United States reporters based in Atlanta. So don't lose.”
2018-08-06 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 262 — Judy Woodruff · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“A very strategic team, so much of this, David, I would love to tell you, I understood it at the time. I didn't. I was asking questions all the time, but I didn't begin to understand what they had put together, I think, until I had been covering them for a year.”
2018-08-06 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 262 — Judy Woodruff · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And there are some great journalism programs and great journalism schools. But I also know great reporters who didn't go to journalism school. But Jimmy Carter had the big toothy smile, very genial, had already figured out how to meet everybody in the room and make you feel like you were the most important person around and already had a story to tell about, yes, I come from South Georgia, yes, I've got a deep southern accent, but I'm also thinking in progressive ways. I want to bring this state out of the past. And he was, and what I watched was the making of a kind of a remarkable campaign. I mean, Jody Powell. Who would go on to be his White House press secretary was working with him then Hamilton Jordan, who would go on to be with him in the White House.”
2018-08-06 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 262 — Judy Woodruff · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I was fresh. This was my first reporting job, so I was learning literally on the job. I was learning from other reporters. I had never taken a course in journalism. So I was observed.”
2018-08-06 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 262 — Judy Woodruff · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Who was really interesting in the South? I mean, you know, we talked about segregation and the rest of it. He tried to be progressive, was progressive. Of course, Jimmy Carter was progressive in a complicated way. I mean, he reached out to both. George Wallace and To the progressive elements in the state.”
2018-08-06 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 262 — Judy Woodruff · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“But that was my baptism by fire. I mean, I covered the Georgia legislature for five years. I covered the Carter governorship. I covered a little bit of Atlanta politics. I got in some city politics. Then a man named Sam Macell was the mayor.”
2018-08-06 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 262 — Judy Woodruff · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“That's right, he was a former. He had run for governor four years earlier, former state senator, a peanut farmer from South Georgia named Jimmy Carter. And in 1970, when I was hired to cover the state capitol, the news director wanted me to go hang out and cover a little bit of the Carter Hal suit campaign. This was the Republican former TV news anchor, direct news director, who was running against him. And so I got to fly around on a plane a couple of times around the state with Jimmy Carter. He went on to be elected, succeeded Lester Maddox, who was famous.”
2018-08-06 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 262 — Judy Woodruff · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“The news director at the CPS station called me up and said, I've just lost my state legislature reporter. I'd like you to come back because I had already reached out to him. He said, can you come over and let's talk about it? And that's how I got a job covering the state capital.”
2018-08-06 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 262 — Judy Woodruff · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I did that for six months. It was like Cinderella, David. I would come in during the week. I was the newsroom secretary. And then they would send me an Atlanta department store to pick out a decent address because I dress like a college student still. Something to wear on the air on Sunday nights at 11 o'clock. I would come in at 6 o'clock, rip all the weather wires, memorize everything, make notes on the big weather board, and then do three or four or five, I don't know, five minutes of weather at 11 o'clock Sunday night. But it was my introduction to on air. But I think it's fair to say after six months we agreed mutually that this was not what I was cut out for.”
2018-08-06 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 262 — Judy Woodruff · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Weather girl, the news director. I had kept pestering him to let me go out and hang out with the reporters and the camera crews, and his answer was, well, why would you want to do that? We already have a woman reporter. We got past that, but he came up to me one day and he said, I've just fired our weekend weather girl. And aren't you interested in auditioning? And I said, no, I'm really not. You know, I want to, I have a political science degree. I really want to cover politics. And he said, well, before anybody's going to take you seriously, you need to get some on-air experience. So reluctantly, I auditioned. How long did you do?”
2018-08-06 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 262 — Judy Woodruff · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Interviewed me again, I'll never forget, I'm sitting in the lobby of WQXI, which is then the ABC station, and I got up to leave. I said, thank you, Mr. Conover, because I was very excited. And I turned around to go. And he said, I'm so glad. He said, besides, how can I not hire somebody with legs like yours? And I'd like to tell you, David, that I had this great comeback. I didn't. I just sort of slumped and. Walked out the door. But then it dawned on me that we were in a moment when women were going to have to fight wherever they were, whether it was in teaching or in teaching math or working at an insurance company or working in politics.”
2018-08-06 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 262 — Judy Woodruff · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“It's so funny because I've been, you know, I mentioned the instructor at Meredith who said basically women shouldn't be taking advanced math, then I had run into the women, you know, of course worked with women in Washington who said be careful because women don't get a break in this city, you know, on Capitol Hill. And then I started in the media where there were quotas in the news. What I left out is after this news director.”
2018-08-06 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 262 — Judy Woodruff · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“So I thought, well, maybe television, you know, you don't have to show clips, they won't need anything. So I, on my spring break senior year, went to Atlanta, drove to Atlanta, interviewed with the three news directors at the ABCBSN. And said, I'll take any job, you know, I'll clean the film, I'll answer the phones. And one of them, the ABC news director, gave me a job as a newsroom secretary. I'll never forget it.”
2018-08-06 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 262 — Judy Woodruff · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Gosh, I need to rethink this thing. I don't want to go to Washington after all. What am I going to do? I went back to Duke My Senior Year. I talked to a couple of my professors, one of whom one day said to me that fall, well, did you ever think about covering politics? And I, it was kind of as if a light bulb went off, and I thought, that's interesting. I could cover politics. And where am I going to go to do that? I haven't written for the school. I haven't written for the Duke Chronicle, the school paper. I don't have any clips to share with anybody, which is what you know that as a former reporter. Yes.”
2018-08-06 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 262 — Judy Woodruff · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I had this conversation with a group of other women who were working on Capitol Hill that summer of 1967. I remember it vividly. And I was talking about I want to come back and I want to get a job on the Hill, what do you think I should do? How should I? And every one of them said to me, well, you know, women are not given a break in this city. You know, you're going to be a clerk. Are you sure you want to do this? You want to think about, you ought to rethink that. It was very discouraging. And a couple of them had law degrees and they were pretty low level. I mean, they were great people and were, you know, smart women, but they felt discouraged for whatever reason. And, you know, it was the women's movement. It was a civil rights movement, the women's movement, Vietnam. There was so much turmoil in the air. And the message I took away from that was, oh my God.”
2018-08-06 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 262 — Judy Woodruff · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“In college, I got it. So from the math experience, fortunately had a great professor, political science professor at Meredith. She, you know, encouraged me, which I was already inclined to do, to transfer to Duke and changed my major political science. I fell in love with politics, thought I'd work in Washington. I worked here for two summers from my congressman from Georgia's 10th District. He was from Athens, Bob Stevens. He was on the banking committee. And I wanted to come back to Washington after graduating from Duke.”
2018-08-06 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 262 — Judy Woodruff · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Coming from a military family, hearing the military side of the argument, but then seeing the protests, and of course it was something we talked about in class all the time, and I was wrestling with it. And it really wasn't until I think my senior year at Duke when we had seen Milai. And not to mention the spring of my senior year 1968, the assassination of Martin Luther King, assassination of Bobby Kennedy right after I graduated. It was as if a tornado had hit our country. And I remember feeling this country is just spinning. We've spun off the axis. Where are we going? By that time, I had decided the war was something that had to be questioned.”
2018-08-06 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 262 — Judy Woodruff · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, by the time when I was at Meredith from 64 to 66, there was more going on. And then by the time I got to Duke, I was in a much more activist campus. There was the anti-war movement.”
2018-08-06 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 262 — Judy Woodruff · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Pretty much unaware of what was happening. You know, I know it was being covered in the press, but for whatever reason my parents were not, you know, they were very much out of a military background. And the news was not in our lives for whatever reason. There was some conversation about it, but it was not an activist town at that time. There were very mild demonstrations in Augusta on the part of the African American, the black community, but nothing like what you were seeing in other places.”
2018-08-06 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 262 — Judy Woodruff · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“She and Hamilton Holmes integrated the University of Georgia in 1962, so I was in Augusta then in high school. And there were people throwing tomatoes and rocks and eggs at them. She ended up leaving and then going back and graduating from the University of Georgia. But it's funny there I was not even 100 and some miles down the road from Athens where the university is living in Augusta.”
2018-08-06 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 262 — Judy Woodruff · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“So, Not right, but it was the way it was, and we lived in Augusta, and so I went to a white elementary school junior high, and then high school. And it was just accepted. I knew there was something wrong with it. I felt. You know, I felt not just helpless to do anything about it, but I kept thinking, where are the people who are going to change this? And, you know, it's funny, I've talked to Charlene Hunter Galt about this because she grew up in Atlanta. As you know, she was one of the first historic figures.”
2018-08-06 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 262 — Judy Woodruff · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“The schools were segregated. I went to a white only. This is, after having been to military schools, which were very much integrated thanks to Eisenhower, Truman and Eisenhower.”
2018-08-06 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 262 — Judy Woodruff · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I remember, first of all, being shocked when we moved to, first of all, I'll go back to Taiwan. I was 12, I think, and when my father got worried that he was being sent, we were being moved to Georgia. And I remember thinking, that's where they have plantations and people go around in cotton fields with bare feet. I mean, I just didn't, even though my father, I'd visited my grandparents in North Carolina, I felt Georgia just felt like a different place. And so I was almost bracing myself. I ended up living with my grandparents in North Carolina for about six months before I joined my parents in Georgia. But I remember being wary of it, not knowing what we were going to, of course, we moved there. We found out Augusta's a lovely southern city, but it was the time of segregation. There were still white and colored only water fountains in the department.”
2018-08-06 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 262 — Judy Woodruff · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Um but I, you know, the interesting thing was my freshman year in college, I was taking advanced math and the teacher was an instructor. He was a grad student at North Carolina State who basically thought women shouldn't be taking calculus. And so I think probably every woman, and it was an all-women, Merediths and all women's school, every woman in that class probably changed her major. Think of the loss of talent there.”
2018-08-06 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 262 — Judy Woodruff · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I was, I was. I couldn't decide what I was going to study, and a couple of my math and a couple of other teachers in high school said, well, you did well in the math SAT. Why don't you major in math? And I said, well, what am I going to do with that? And one of them said, well, you could be an insurance actuary. Thankfully for the insurance industry, I didn't go in that direction. I kept thinking, well, where am I going to see people? I'm going to be stuck in an office with a calculator. We didn't have computers back then.”
2018-08-06 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 262 — Judy Woodruff · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I think, you know, at the time, I didn't realize it, David, but I'm sure that must have been going on. At some point, I realized if you don't make friends right away, then you're not going to have friends. You've got to make a friend, hold on to them as long as you can, and then they may go or you may have to go. But it was hard. I mean, I was joking about the shots, but. But I mean the real impact for me was friendships and having to make them and give them up quickly. I tried to stay in touch with people, but it was hard.”
2018-08-06 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 262 — Judy Woodruff · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“They're leaving, or you're leaving. And I remember having frequent, tearful crying sessions with my friends. And when I was very little, because we had gotten to be buddies and we had, you know, we were doing stuff we love to do together. That probably stayed with me for a long time.”
2018-08-06 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 262 — Judy Woodruff · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Tulsa or Missouri or New Jersey or certainly later Augusta. But it also meant giving up friends often. You make friends and then as soon as you're close.”
2018-08-06 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 262 — Judy Woodruff · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And, you know, I would like to tell you that the good part of all this is that I got to see the world. I got a sense that there was much more to the world than...”
2018-08-06 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 262 — Judy Woodruff · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“We live there for three years. We came back on another ship and lived at Fort Leonardwood, Missouri for a year, third grade. And we moved to Fort Monmouth, New Jersey. Actually, we lived in Redbank and lived there not even a whole year. And my father had orders to go to Taiwan. So my mother and I then, with my sister, by then I had a younger sister, who we moved back to Tulsa to live near her family until my father could bring dependence back then they called us dependents. The military would go first and then a year later they'd let them bring children and spouses and so forth. And so then we went, we stayed in Tulsa for another six months or eight months then to Taiwan, where we lived for a couple of years. And then my father was assigned to Fort Gordon, Georgia.”
2018-08-06 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 262 — Judy Woodruff · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, I didn't like it a lot because in a very parochial sense, for one thing, I had to have shots, a whole battery of shots every time we moved from one place to another. Well, when I was turning five, when my mother and I were on a ship from the United States to Germany to join my father.”
2018-08-06 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 262 — Judy Woodruff · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“That's exactly right. That's what I see. And I also see when I've talked to people who've said, I mean, I've talked to voters who've said to me, well, there just needs to be change. And sometimes they aren't even able to say, what is the change? What do they want done differently? What do they want this all to lead to? Where are we headed? And sometimes they don't even yet have a clear idea of that. They just know that what they see right now doesn't work for them. They don't feel it's responding to what their needs are. So it's something we in the press have just got to keep focusing on and keep talking to people about.”
2018-08-06 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 262 — Judy Woodruff · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“A much different way because I try to pay attention to what they're saying. I see it online. I see it in Twitter. We talk a lot on the program about how we need to get out and hear those voices and cover those people. And that's an important goal for us in covering this year's midterm elections, but it's a goal all the time to make sure that we're not just talking to ourselves, that we're not just talking inside the bubble here in Washington. But I hear those voices, and I think you're right. I mean, I think they watch him and they listen to him and they see and hear something different. They're looking at him, I think, against the backdrop of the Washington they've watched for the last however many years. They feel out of touch. Some of them feel not heard or not listened to, and they think”
2018-08-06 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 262 — Judy Woodruff · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“But so we are diverse, but there is a sense that we've kind of gotten big for our britches. And I think we need to do a little self-reflecting about that. And be careful that we don't assume that we have all the answers just because we got a good education and we know a lot of smart people.”
2018-08-06 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 262 — Judy Woodruff · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“who they're still friends, they're friendly, they reach out. I'm on a listserve from my high school class. But there is a sense that the media has gotten away from the center of the country, that we've, you know, that many people look at many people in the press as being very well educated. And frankly, thinking we're smarter than everybody else. And I, you know, that's. We went to all kinds of schools. We didn't all go to Harvard and Yale. Duke, which I happen to go to”
2018-08-06 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 262 — Judy Woodruff · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And in the south, I want to because I have friends I went to high school with who I occasionally am in touch with. I try to stay in touch with.”
2018-08-06 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 262 — Judy Woodruff · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“But for me, it's not so easy to get there. There aren't many direct, in fact, there are no direct flights right now from Washington to Tulsa. But I do think about it a lot because I think we've somehow gotten to a place where people think the press, the media represents the East Coast. It may be a little the west coast, but not much in the middle. And I try, even though it's hard, you can't get those voices from the middle of the country on every day on our program or in any news organization, has a hard time reaching those voices, but they're there and we need to listen to them.”
2018-08-06 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 262 — Judy Woodruff · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I think about it a lot, and I think especially right now because we're going through this time where the country feels so divided, people, American people feel so divided. And I think about cousins and aunts and uncles and friends of family, as I mentioned, Oklahoma and North Carolina, Georgia, where I lived, where I went to high school, I still have friends in Augusta and Atlanta and around the state. I think about that part of the country and especially the middle of the country, we call it flyover.”
2018-08-06 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 262 — Judy Woodruff · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“In Oklahoma, in North Carolina. And then, as I'll tell you a little bit about where I moved growing up as an Army brat. We moved all over the world”
2018-08-06 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 262 — Judy Woodruff · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Um and Oklahoma is where all my mother's family is so I've lived in Washington for 40 years people think of me as Washington but my roots are truly”
2018-08-06 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 262 — Judy Woodruff · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“right around the end of world war ii she grew up and she had grown up in tulsa essentially and her father died when she was fourteen and the reason i'm telling you this because it all relates to what happened to me because When he died at 14, she basically dropped out of high school and stayed home to help take care of her siblings while her mother took three jobs. worked cleaning somebody's house and a couple of other frankly hard labor kinds of work. And she, that really shaped her. She never was able to finish high school. Didn't go to college. And my father neither did not finish high school. He got the equivalent of a degree of a high school diploma in the army. But they both came from pretty simple backgrounds.”
2018-08-06 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 262 — Judy Woodruff · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“But it's So Tulsa, yes, that's my birthplace. I have to go back a little bit. My mother was from Missouri, and she had moved to Tulsa as a young woman as a teenager. And she met my father who was from North Carolina. He was in the Army.”
2018-08-06 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 262 — Judy Woodruff · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, first of all, I'm so glad to have this conversation with you. I don't get to see you very often, but congratulations on this podcast. Thank you. Taken the place, the country by storm.”
2018-08-06 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 262 — Judy Woodruff · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source