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  1. Like and subscribe to the Oprah podcast on YouTube or wherever you podcast, it's just a quick tap of the subscribe button and that way you won't miss an episode in your queue. You don't have to pay anything. I know subscribe usually means you're paying something, but this time it means you just are notified when there's something new. There are many more to come that we're excited about. So thank you for watching and listening.

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  2. The Calamity Club is available now wherever books are sold. So, yes, it's a lot of pages, Gail. It's a lot of pages, but you're going to love everyone. So Jamila, thank you, Faye, Heather. Thank you. Thanks for reading with us and for your thoughtful questions. We'll see you next week. Go well, everybody. I hope you all read the Calamity Club. I'm telling you, it is one of the great reads and particularly for summer. I think you're going to just fall in love with the characters like I did. So good for the summer to share with your friends. And you can buy it instantly now. Right now, I just love the way this happens. If you scan the QR code on your screen, you can get the book. Happy reading. Our listeners tell us that the podcast is resonating with you and is serving as a bright spot in your day. That means a lot to me. So here's the thing. I would really appreciate it if you...

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  3. Well, thank you. Thank you, Kitty Stocket, Catherine Stocket. She likes to be called Kitty. Thank you for this beautiful breathtaking. It's just really.

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  4. Yeah, yes. Well, we aren't going to give it away what happens to these characters at the end, but I will say I was in a puddle, really. Listen, did you always know you wanted to resolve the story this way?

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  5. We're back with best-selling author Catherine Stocket. If you know somebody who loves to read a rip roaring tale and wants a great book for this summer about spirited women, share this episode with them. Now back to the conversation. In the author's note, you say that as a writer and as a human being, I believe it is my duty to imagine, I think you say this in the beginning of the book, you say as a writer and as a human being, I believe it's my duty to imagine what it feels like to stand in another person's shoes, to stay sane, I put those imaginings on paper, the calamity club is the result. How did writing these women's stories keep you sane? Actually, he drove you a little insane, I'm sure.

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  6. It's time for one last break, y'all, when we return, Catherine Stocket explains why she feels it's her duty as a writer and a human being to imagine what it's like to stand in another person's shoes. Come on back for that.

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  7. She did, yeah. So that was your favorite. Well, Meg was definitely my favorite, of course. And so you quote Emily Dickinson and her famous poem where Meg says, hope is a thing with feathers that purchases in the soul and sings the tune without the words and never stops at all. What do you want readers to actually, or is or did you want readers to know anything about hope when you were writing this book?

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  8. I did not. Yeah. But every night, I was so worried for them every night. We won't give away the plot about the way, but...

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  9. Thought the sheriff was going every night, and I thought at first I thought the guy standing outside, he had to be the sheriff, but if he was a sheriff, he wouldn't have been able to just stand outside and watch. He would have brought everybody in and they would have arrested him. So I couldn't figure out who that guy was until the end. I still didn't know that that's who it was.

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  10. I couldn't believe they were going to do it. I started to get so nervous. You know, I hate, I didn't want anything to go wrong with them. And I started, I started to get nervous. I actually put the book down. I thought, are they, is she actually going to go through with it? When they left the house and they went to look for her son. And then there's Birdie left in that house. I thought she's not going to do it. She's not going to do it. She's not going to do it. And then she did. Yeah, and every night I was waiting on the sheriff to come. Every night I thought the sheriff was coming.

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  11. Yeah, was the idea to bring all of these women together who were sort of outcasts in the outsiders and to show that together they could build something that was really powerful, even though that something would not be what most people would consider a great business.

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  12. Thank you for reading all of those pages. Aren't you glad you did though? Aren't you glad you did? I just love this book. I love this woman in the book where I won't tell you what has happened, but I just love this sentence where Meg says, nobody needs to remind me to count my blessings. I could count 100, but what I've done in just the last two hours. And, oh, it is just all so spectacular. Yeah, what does it say about Meg?

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  13. They're all in that house trusting each other. That was some crazy. That was a calamitous time in that house. Do you have a question for Kitty?

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  14. Yeah, I think so. I think so. Thank you so much. Thanks, Fay. Heather also read The Calamity Club. Heather, hi there. Hi, hi, hi. Did you read it all in one sitting or did you keep coming back to it, laughing out loud?

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  15. Yeah, and I think that set the tone. We know what we're in for. We're going to walk into a world of prejudices here. And I think Meg handled them all so beautifully. Thank you, Faye. How many people are you passing the book on to? I mean, I couldn't wait to pass the book on to as many people as I could.

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  16. Tells you everything you want to know about the prejudices of the time. So I want to know, did you find signs like this for real in your research?

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  17. Well, you know what I loved in the very beginning of the story, when we go to the orphanage for the first time, well, there's so many things I appreciated about this book. Well, first of all, it's said in the South and I'm from the South, and Meg is Southern, and she's 11, and she's sparky and bright and all those things. And she's at the orphanage. And when you walk into the orphanage, one of the pivotal locations in the story, the sign out front reads, welcome to the Lafayette County Orphan Asylum for Girls found in 1927. We do not accept colored Indians, Jews, Mexicans, oriental types, twins, anyone who has or has had leprosy, consumption, missing limbs, or hair lip, no boys, no sick children or anyone of a retarded nature, no girls over the age of twelve, no women in the family way.

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  18. Thanks for joining me on the Oprah podcast nearly seventeen years after her Mega Hit novel The Help. You're going to love, love reading Catherine Stocket's new book The Calamity Club. Let's get back to our conversation. Fay is zooming in from Ohio and I hear this idea of Fay, did you laugh? How many times did you laugh out loud? Could you even count too many to count? That's what I say about this book. It will have you howling with yourself, really. And I hear this idea of chosen family resonated for you.

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  19. It's time for a break up next, Catherine Kitty talks about the power of hope and learning from our mistakes, more on that when we come back.

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  20. Okay. Charlie, Meg's mother is imprisoned, declared unfit, and, you know, sterilized against her will. In your research, you discovered in the 30s so many women were often diagnosed as the word that you used in the book, feeble-minded or promiscuous. And what else did you learn about women in that period?

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  21. Where did all of these women come from? I mean, it's a cast of characters in this story. How did the story come to you, kitty?

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  22. Okay, let's talk about Calamity Club. I think readers will feel transported back to the South in the 1930s, from the slang to the language to the clothing. How did you craft that?

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  23. Some people say you obviously have control over what you write, but you're saying you don't have control in terms of what your heart wants to speak to. That's what I hear you say.

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  24. Because you got so much criticism, well, not so much, but you got criticism after the help with such a great success. So you get criticism for writing about black women because you were a white woman. Did you decide, okay, well, I'm only going to write about white women?

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  25. Actually, I think left me with less judgment of women's choices to do what they need to do until they can do what they actually want to do. Did you feel that too, Janella?

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  26. Yeah, all the Kidridge and everybody in that town ended up having, in some form or another, their own story and were in other books. I mean, there is no reason, kitty, that you cannot continue this story with these characters moving on. I mean, literally, Bernie, what happens to Bertie and Jack and Bernie and Jack's family or all any of the other women? Don't you agree? Don't you agree, Jamel

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  27. Leave the reader wandering a little bit, but Kitty, but Kitty, you know, you can do what Elizabeth Stroud has done with all with, you know, all of her.

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  28. We can't coming down the stairs, the man's coming down the stairs and she realizes what's going on in the house. What about that?

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  29. I hope people enjoyed that just like we did. A way. And were you worried too? Were you worried too, Jamila, that the sheriff was going to come every night?

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  30. Yeah. And were you worried? I was so worried that when Jack found out what Birdie was doing, he would then sort of think that she was some kind of soiled woman or something and wouldn't want to be around her if he found out that that's what she was doing.

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  31. Very real. Yeah, me too. My grandmother grew up cleaning white people's houses in Mississippi, so I understand very much. Do you have a question for Kitty?

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  32. All those Yeah, yeah. I mean, listen, I gave this to. Three of my southern friends who are just over the moon couldn't even, I think there's everybody's going to love the book, but I will tell you that if you're a southern woman, I think it resonates more deeply. I'm not sure why. Jamila, can you tell us why?

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  33. Yeah. All right. We gave a few lucky readers the copy of the Calamity Club. And Jamila is joining us now from North Carolina. Jamila, hi.

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  34. Welcome back to the Oprah Podcast I'm talking with best selling author Catherine Stocket about her new novel The Calamity Club Ugh is it a hoot It's both poignant and laugh out loud for real funny I know you're gonna love it great for this summer reading Now back to the conversation So you knew you had to so if you were having Meg you know you needed an adult to be a counterpart for what comes later on in the story that all that crazy calamity stuff that happens but where did she actually come from when did you first hear her voice

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  35. Our listeners tell us that the podcast is resonating with you and is serving as a bright spot in your day. That means a lot to me. So here's the thing. I would really appreciate it if you like and subscribe to the Oprah podcast on YouTube or wherever you podcast. It's just a quick tap of the subscribe button and that way you won't miss an episode in your queue. You don't have to pay anything. I know subscribe usually means you're paying something, but this time it means you just are notified when there's something new. There are many more to come that we're excited about. So thank you for watching and listening. Time for a quick break when we come back. Readers share their favorite moments and what had them L O L Oing That's next.

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  36. Yeah. On page 136, you write this about how Meg feels, all this noise inside us, and we can't make a sound. I felt like so many young girls, boys, people feel this way. Those 11 little words speak volumes for so many people in similar situations. So you were saying that for her, but saying it also for so many people.

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  37. Meg suffers abuse at the orphanage and she describes it this way. It's like she's trying to whip the hope out of me all the while she's whispering dirty, filthy girl after 15 licks, Miss Garnett sits down in the chair panting. She only quits because her arm gets tired. Were these scenes difficult for you to write?

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  38. And so I love this passage about young Meg's life in the orphanage on page 127. You write, sometimes I feel old. Oh, this is what Meg is saying at 11 years old. Sometimes I feel old, old in my skin and my bones. I remember when I turned nine at my mama's house, I could still feel a little eight left in me. But when I turned 10 in this place, there was not any nine left to spare. Now I'm afraid I might already have used up the rest of my 11 and most of my 12 too. So I just love that line. How do you come up with I could still feel a little eight left in me?

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  39. So, I want to talk about the story without giving too much away. I have to say, I've now given this book to so many of my friends who say, I wish it wouldn't end. I could not believe how many times I laughed. I could not believe these characters. Would you set up the characters in plot? Because as I was saying earlier, I am drawn to stories with coming of age Southern girls. And Meg is a character like we've never seen before.

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  40. Is that what your ex husband said? Yeah. So tell me this were saying the criticism from the help. How you started to approach this story and write the story? Were you finally able to let that go, to shake that off and just delve into the lives of these women you've now written about in calamity?

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  41. The expectations. What are you going to do now? Yes, you've said I'll probably get in some trouble for this one, a fate I'm drawn to. Above all, the story embraces a woman's right to determine her own fate, which feels increasingly relevant these days. Why do you think you're drawn to getting in trouble?

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  42. Did the criticism cause you to approach this book differently or make different decisions? You said in the beginning you were writing cautiously and that it turned out to be something flattened and it didn't feel like it was coming from a real place. So were you conscious of the criticism from the help as you were writing calamity?

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  43. Yes, and you understand. Yes, I always was born at the right time, I was born in, I'm going to start talking like Mississippi now. I was born 1954. When Brown versus Board of Education and the luckiest thing that ever happened to me was that I left Mississippi before I ever spent a day in a segregated school. Because had I grown up in a segregated school With teachers who were teaching me that, you know, I was less than, I would not have had the confidence or the agency or authority that I managed to have as a young girl moving to Milwaukee and never having to endure any of that. I think truly that made all the difference for me. And so what did you learn from the criticism of the help? And what did you understand as the crux of that criticism?

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  44. May Angelou's story is a coming of age story. I know why the cagebird sings. And of course, to kill a mockingbird and scout. There's something about a young girl's voice coming of age that speaks to me so deeply because I was a southern girl coming of age. And obviously because you have done such an incredible job with this book, that also spoke to you. This is a story of a group of bold, unbreakable women who overcome hardships to reclaim their lives, the love between them was just, I was crying one minute and laughing really out loud to myself the next, and then cheering. I think it's both heartbreaking and it's also hilarious at the same time. So you've said writing a second novel in the shadow of the help was daunting.

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  45. Let me just say, I fell in love with this coming of age story. And this is what I realized when I read this, I thought all of my favorite books are Coming of Age stories, beginning with Tony Morrison's The Bluest Eye, of course, Ceely in the Color Purple.

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  46. Hey, everybody. Thanks for stopping by the Oprah podcast. A warm welcome to you all. I know millions of you read the help. Catherine Stockett's 2009 debut novel, which became a global phenomenon, selling over 15 million copies. Not many authors get to say that in their lifetime, not in three lifetimes. Back in 2011, the actress Octavia Spencer won an Oscar for her role in the hit film, The Help Based on the Book. And now Catherine Stockett's long-awaited second novel, The Calamity Club, is finally here. And I know so many of you are going to devour this book, and it's already, I can tell you, runaway bestseller. I knew that that was going to happen. And I'm thrilled to be sitting on my front porch with the author, Catherine Stockett. I know you prefer everyone call you Kitty, so I will do the same. Kitty, welcome. So glad to be with you.

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