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Katie Nolan
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“Yeah, I just always look at the people who are doing it well and I want to do it that way and people will say to me like why do you, because I'll watch John Oliver and I'll transcribe his rant. He manually transcribe it. I'll type them out and I put and then I'll color code them what's a joke, what's a fact, and what's an element. And I study that to see how often he's telling jokes, how often he's establishing points and how he moves from one point to the next because I haven't been doing this for that long. And people will say to me, like, he has a team of writers that write that for him. And I get that. But if I make excuses like that and say, oh, I'm not John Oliver because I only have me and a couple other producers, then I'm just limiting myself. I might as well strive to be him, and then if I fall short of it, at least I got closer than I would have if I just gave him a car.”
2015-12-17 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Katie Nolan, Fox Sports TV Host · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Right. Nothing but live sports on our network is crushing it right now that I'm aware of. So I don't worry as much about ratings mainly because I don't understand how they work. So that doesn't bother me as much. My goal is to put the show out and have enough clippable things in it that we can push out online that it may convert people to come watch the show or hopefully the powers that be at Fox are working on a way to make it so that that drives the ad dollars the way that the television show does. My main concern is the quality of the content and to make it shareable and something that people would want to seek out or that will move online.”
2015-12-17 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Katie Nolan, Fox Sports TV Host · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Fuck it. Well, mostly my philosophy for most things is fuck it, but I'd say we're in a time slot that to me takes the pressure off the ratings. We're also on a brand new network, so I know that I don't think anything but live sports.”
2015-12-17 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Katie Nolan, Fox Sports TV Host · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I think some people think they're actually a zero connection. So, and how do you think? I mean, I've talked with people who are producing late night TV, which you do about this, right? So you're in your 20s, you're part of the generation that's no longer paying for cable TV. You may not be watching it. Probably a lot of the people who are your age are not watching TV at Wednesday night at midnight. So how do you think about sort of either creating a show that will make them watch that at midnight or that they'll come to another time? Or maybe you just say fuck it, it's all going to be on the internet. Now I've got your potty mouth”
2015-12-17 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Katie Nolan, Fox Sports TV Host · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I think so. When we first launched garbage time, it was supposed to be a multi platform show. It still is. So, a lot of our clips live online and do better online than they do actually on television, of course, because we're on at midnight. So I think we do, we're sort of the show that's trying out the, hey, what's going to happen when the future of television? Let's try some weird and interesting different things and we're the show that sort of takes those chances.”
2015-12-17 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Katie Nolan, Fox Sports TV Host · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“On Twitter, whether it's live tweeting, sporting events, or the Grammys or whatever it is. And that part is still really important to me.”
2015-12-17 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Katie Nolan, Fox Sports TV Host · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, I understand that mentality and it's what's led to me. I check my replies less often. I used to read every single one, and I found that affecting me mentally when you're absorbing that much negativity from strangers on a constant basis, even if consciously you're not buying into what they say, subconsciously you start to get this voice in the back of your head that tells you you're not worth anything and that they may be on to something. So I've stopped checking them as much with much encouragement from my producers to please stop reading your Twitter replies. And it has improved my mental state and my feelings about myself, but at the same time, like you were saying before, you get your start on the internet, if you go to TV and abandon everything that you had coming up, you'll lose your audience because you come off as inauthentic. And a lot of what got me here is interacting with people on Twitter, being very active.”
2015-12-17 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Katie Nolan, Fox Sports TV Host · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“All the time. Everyone says don't feed the trolls, and I understand it to a point after having done this for a couple years now. And I see that point, but at the same time, it's, you know, we should be yelling at them for saying the things they say. So I try to always find a funny or interesting way to spin the negative stuff into something that could make more fun content. I mean, if I'm going to tweets.”
2015-12-17 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Katie Nolan, Fox Sports TV Host · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“You've eviscerated your co worker. It's an interesting question. I think there's a huge response in general because the media will talk about it and then we'll get new viewers based on what they see. And I think it's because it looks like I'm the only person doing it. So that's why it's a story. Whereas we work really hard on our comedy segments that don't necessarily transcend in that way because a lot of people are doing comedy. But to have a woman talking about domestic violence, it's very rare in sports.”
2015-12-17 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Katie Nolan, Fox Sports TV Host · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“It seems like whenever you touch that wire, the press really responds to that. Right. I can go back through your clippings and there's stories about you taking on people who work at Fox Sports who wrote something stupid about them. You've eviscerated your coworker, talked about Greg Hardy recently. Do you get response from the viewers one way or the other, or it's all sort of the same to them?”
2015-12-17 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Katie Nolan, Fox Sports TV Host · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Sit on set and deliver jokes about some stupid something without thinking about how important this issue is, then that's when I'll speak on it.”
2015-12-17 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Katie Nolan, Fox Sports TV Host · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, and it's probably going to keep going next year and the year after that, but it seemed like the first time that, and it could have been because I was paying extra attention, but the first time it was really sort of coming to the forefront of the conversation. And so it's tough when you're doing a comedy show and my first thought was that's not my space. We'll just let that stuff go and I'll do the silly things. And after, you know, hearing and absorbing and interacting with enough sports TV and seeing men talk about it in a way that sort of felt like a voice was missing from the conversation and seeing a lot of women not have the opportunity to say what they think it reached a breaking point where I just thought I should probably say something because I'm in a position to and it would be irresponsible of me to say I didn't address it because I wanted to make a joke.”
2015-12-17 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Katie Nolan, Fox Sports TV Host · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Well, so it's tough because our goal was to do a comedy show that was based in sports, and then it got to a point where things, you know, the NFL had such an awful year last year with off the field issues.”
2015-12-17 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Katie Nolan, Fox Sports TV Host · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“So there's a couple things going on, right? On the one hand, you say you feel responsibility for helping women sort of do what you're doing. And then also you're speaking to a predominantly male audience about sports, which they want to hear about. But it seems like you make a point of saying, occasionally I'm going to shove something in your face that you might not be comfortable with. You've gotten a lot of attention for when you've taken on stuff like Greg Hardy and domestic abuse. Do you think about... That specifically, when you do it, or it's just something you want to talk about that day.”
2015-12-17 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Katie Nolan, Fox Sports TV Host · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“No, at first, it was sort of a strange thing to, I guess being a woman, I don't often think about how I'm a woman because it's just I've always been this way. So when people were looking at me like, wow, for a woman, this is amazing. And I was just thinking, well, I think it's amazing that I'm here because it happened really quickly. I never even really was conscious of the fact that I'm a female. But after doing it for a while and sort of seeing the benefits and the downside of people expecting you to play that role of the woman and speaking to other women who work in sports TV who do similar things to what I do, it's right now my goal and my responsibility is it's all about lifting other women up so that, because there's plenty of women like me who love sports and who are funny and enjoy this world, they just don't feel welcome here. So my goal now is to make them feel welcome to say, hey, I'm here. You can come be here.”
2015-12-17 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Katie Nolan, Fox Sports TV Host · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, I mean, I recognize the responsibility that comes with it and the sort of weight I have to carry to be that woman. My goal is to always do things that I'm proud of and to hold the door open for women to come after me.”
2015-12-17 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Katie Nolan, Fox Sports TV Host · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I'm flushing. So let's talk about what you're doing now. So we talked earlier before you came on, and I've heard interviews with you, and it seems like on the one hand, You don't really want to be labeled as the woman who's on television sports, on the other hand you seem to embrace the role. I mean, it's very rare that there's a woman on TV in sports, period, and it's very rare that someone gets to do what you're doing, which is give your opinions. You're encouraged to give your opinion. You do sort of a comedy slash analysis show. Are you comfortable being that sort of anomaly in that world?”
2015-12-17 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Katie Nolan, Fox Sports TV Host · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, I think for me, since I never really caught on YouTube, I mean, like I said, we didn't have that many views. It wasn't like I had, I did have a dedicated small audience that I probably still know many of them by name because I was interacting with them on Facebook and on Twitter and in the comment section of my videos, but they were a small group. And it wasn't a, I didn't feel that if I left for TV and the original role that I was playing for Fox Sports was going to be the internet person for TV. So I felt like it was still connected enough. But I understand the Jenna Marbles and the Grace Hellbigs who think my audience is here and if I leave they might not come with me.”
2015-12-17 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Katie Nolan, Fox Sports TV Host · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And again, there are a bunch of people who are making a living, real money on YouTube. And depending on what time of day and how my drinks you've had when you ask them, they say, I don't want to leave the internet. I want to stay here. This is where my fan base is. I wouldn't take a TV deal if one got offered to me. But you went right away to TV when it showed up.”
2015-12-17 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Katie Nolan, Fox Sports TV Host · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“That people are confused when you work for a national sports network and they've never seen you on a local affiliate and they've never seen you work the sideline before and you have to explain that, yeah, I took a different way.”
2015-12-17 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Katie Nolan, Fox Sports TV Host · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“It was it happened so fast that I wasn't really conscious of it, but anytime we did any sort of media, the first question was, who are you and where did you come from and what were you doing a few years ago? And the hardest thing for me was trying to explain to people how much work went into the YouTube thing because it wasn't a lot of work and a lot of reward. It was a lot of work for videos that didn't get that many views, but it was hours and hours and hours of my life. And I lost friends and jobs because I dedicated myself to making these videos. To what end I didn't really know, but it ended up working out. But it's such an untraditional path.”
2015-12-17 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Katie Nolan, Fox Sports TV Host · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And at what point did you get your head around the idea that, hey, I was bartending a couple years ago and then I was blogging and now I'm going on TV. Did you embrace that or did you have to be sort of coaxed into it?”
2015-12-17 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Katie Nolan, Fox Sports TV Host · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, or like 25 people in the room watching. So I freaked out that I wasn't ready. I went to an audition for Fox that I bombed. They even called me after and said, well, that wasn't good, but it's not your fault we threw you in a situation that you weren't comfortable. I had to read a teleprompter. I'd never seen one before. I had an IFB in my ear. I'd never had that before. So I was a little freaked out, but then we found something that was a better fit, which was a panel show called Crowd Goes Wild.”
2015-12-17 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Katie Nolan, Fox Sports TV Host · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Maybe one and a half One and a half. So I did it, and I wasn't ready, and I freaked out that I'd only ever been doing, I mean, up until I moved to New York when I filmed my videos, I was alone all the time in a room, because you sort of have to go to a weird mental place to be animated to a camera. And if there's another person in the room, it throws you off a little. So I got very used to being alone with my camera. And then all of a sudden, I was going to go be on TV where there were going to be...”
2015-12-17 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Katie Nolan, Fox Sports TV Host · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Really, it's a lovely place. I still live there. It's where I live. So I moved to New York to do, God knows what, I was going to keep making YouTube videos, I guess. So I did that. And then two months in one of my boss at Guysim approached me and said, we've been approached by Fox. They're launching a 24-hour sports network. They're interested in getting you out of your contract to go work for them. We made a deal, you have to go work for them now.”
2015-12-17 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Katie Nolan, Fox Sports TV Host · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Well, first, so I was still living in Boston at the time, and then Gaiaism got bought out by another company. And they said, if you want to keep your job, you have to move to New York. We're going to build you a studio. And they offered me a salary, which was amazing and exciting. I quit my bartending job a couple months before that because I started to really focus on these. So I had to move to New York. I moved to Hoboken because I didn't pay me enough to move to actual New York.”
2015-12-17 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Katie Nolan, Fox Sports TV Host · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Do the best at whatever I'm doing at the moment. So I wanted them to be really good. I was hoping they would start to get more views because they really only ever averaged like 6,000 unless it had the word boobs in the title. And then it was like 20,000. But I didn't really have a goal I was working towards in mind. I just wanted to get really good at it and then take it from there. And then at some point”
2015-12-17 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Katie Nolan, Fox Sports TV Host · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Not really. Once I do something I don't really half ass it. I don't see the point. So once it was my job and I was saying that I was doing these videos every day and putting the work in and they were getting like 700 views, I was like, what gives? Where are all the views? I want the views. So I found other people who were doing similar content and tried to emulate them and see what they were doing to get all those views. So I was watching a lot of source fed and all those news videos that really get pushed out. A lot of Philip DeFranco just to see what he was doing and what they were doing that made those go. And that's why I bought it. So this works on YouTube. I want to do a version of that. Yeah, basically. Not really. One of my downfalls as a human is I don't really plan for the future. I'm more just try to.”
2015-12-17 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Katie Nolan, Fox Sports TV Host · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“So I stayed bartending and was doing daily videos teaching myself how to use editing programs and software I'd never seen before, eventually bought myself a green screen, taught myself how to light it, taught myself how audio works kind of And produced these productions five days a week, writing all the jokes myself and finding all the new stories. So you didn't just stumble into this, though. I mean, if you're going and doing all this work and figuring out how to edit and writing your own jokes, you must have had some sense that, all right, this is going to”
2015-12-17 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Katie Nolan, Fox Sports TV Host · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And was your aspiration that well, I do want to be on TV or video one day. So, what was they get you to be on camera? Well, they offered me money. And so it was like right for free for us and bartend. Or we'll pay you to do this. $750 a month, which was my rent. So I took it. Good deal. And I did. Well, wasn't, but I didn't learn that until afterwards. I didn't realize how much work it was actually going to be.”
2015-12-17 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Katie Nolan, Fox Sports TV Host · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“To do that, and you know, Gawker, all those websites. So that's kind of, I guess, what the model is. You're doing your own riff on Barsteel Sports and Gawker. Basically, your twist with nobody reading it. They said, Guy is... So I did that. And then when they asked to do a video series, I said no immediately because I knew that I wasn't good at it. I didn't know what I was doing. And it didn't make sense. They wanted five videos a week, a daily video about the news, sort of like weekend update, headline joke, headline joke, headline joke. And it was, I got to write it myself, film it myself. Research it myself. What an honor. I know. Do all the free labor. So I said no.”
2015-12-17 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Katie Nolan, Fox Sports TV Host · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“What were you blogging about? I mean, it was. It was like a pop culture weird news stories, some sports, mostly things that had to do with women and how women are perceived or how we're supposed to be. So let's say there's one where there's a woman wrote a book like football for ladies. And so I tore it apart saying that football for ladies is the same as football for men. And we don't have to wear color coded outfits to, like, besides the fact that you wanted to write because you wanted to learn or teach yourself how to write or get better at writing, what was animating this? Was there a model you were using? I want to be like this person. I like what this person's saying. At the time, I was reading a lot of Barstool sports. Are you familiar with it? It was a small blog that sort of has now grown in its reach, but it has a very dedicated audience. It's snarky, funny, sports-based, but also had a lot of when a weird news story comes across. They'll talk about that. So I was reading a lot of that.”
2015-12-17 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Katie Nolan, Fox Sports TV Host · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Concept for that one. Yeah, we're going to give you a weekly column on our site and it'll be quid pro quo. So we'll send people to your website so you can make ad dollars. And I said, I don't know how to make ad dollars from my website. I'm just blogging to keep myself busy. So I did that for a little while and then they approached me with this idea to do daily videos. And at the time, I'd never done anything on video. I didn't know how to edit videos. I knew I was very uncomfortable on camera.”
2015-12-17 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Katie Nolan, Fox Sports TV Host · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Fuck yeah. If we have to believe, I don't know. Maybe you can't swear. I'm sure we can. Was it on blogger? It was on Tumblr. Tumblr. Yep. And so I was posting three, four, five posts a day, even though nobody was reading them because I wanted to be consistent and get myself into the habit of posting. So just writing exercise. Yeah, basically. And somebody ended up finding me through the Tumblr community who worked for a website called Gaiaism, which is now, I don't think they're a website anymore. But anyway, so they was poor thing. It died. So they found me, they asked me to write for them for free. And what was other than...”
2015-12-17 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Katie Nolan, Fox Sports TV Host · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Else. I go now where I leave. We're done. First tell me your life story. Okay. So here's a bunch of things I want to talk about, but one of the things I think is interesting about you is sort of what I hinted at in that introduction, which is you went very quickly from the internet to television and you still got your sort of feet in the internet. I just think your story, how you got to where you are, is pretty interesting. So can you explain how you got from a bartending job to a blogging job to a television job? Yeah, you kind of summed it up pretty quickly, but I was bartending. I was working at a bar near BU, interacting with a lot of college kids. Not very intellectually stimulating, I guess is the nicest way to put it. So I started a blog to keep myself busy during the days because it's very easy to fall into a habit of sleeping all day and working all night. So I started a blog and then what was the blog called? It was called What Can I Say On This Podcast Can you Curse? Okay, it was called Bitches Can't Hang. Swear it up. Yeah. Oh, fuck yeah.”
2015-12-17 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Katie Nolan, Fox Sports TV Host · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Here we go. What were you doing five years ago? Katie Nolan was a bartender five years ago in Massachusetts. Then she started blogging, and now she's got her own TV show. Welcome to my show, Katie. Thanks for coming. Thank you for having me. I did some Googling. I want to introduce you, but it's easier to tell you what the internet says about you. Okay. Katie, no one's garbage time is the future of sports TV, says one article. Another article says you are the woman holding the NFL accountable. All right. Another one says you are bringing a sneaky feminism to Fox sports. I'll take it. Have we introduced you appropriately? You took all the good things the internet says, which I appreciate. Well, yeah, we'll get to the bad things in a minute. So we'll round it out. So you host your own television show on Fox Sports One, which is sort of a would-be ESPN rival. One day it's going to crush ESPN. Yes, very soon. I think next week we start crushing ESPN. Crushing starts soon. So you're in your second season and airs Wednesday night. You should watch it. It's awesome. So now we've got the full introduction. That's perfect. There's nothing.”
2015-12-17 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Katie Nolan, Fox Sports TV Host · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“She's got her own TV show on Fox Sports One, which is like ESPN, but much smaller and owned by Rupert Murdoch, and it's like a variety show, or a Stephen Colbert show. It's very cool. You'll love it.”
2015-12-17 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Katie Nolan, Fox Sports TV Host · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Haiti Nolan is a new fangled sports media star a few years ago. She was bartending during the day and creating a tumblr at night and now she's got her own TV show. She's really a reverent and funny and interesting. She's also a woman, which is pretty rare to have as a sports TV host, so we're going to hear more from her.”
2015-12-17 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Katie Nolan, Fox Sports TV Host · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT