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“People want to see you go first. They want to see you set the example. And I think I checked on it recently as I was editing the book, David, and I believe the most famous tweets now are he and Melania saying they had COVID. I hope the people who liked it just liked getting the information, didn't like the fact that they had COVID.”
2022-06-30 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 496 — Kellyanne Conway · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yes. I put in the book, it's true that sometimes at 6 p.m. I'll have the chicken kale salad and by 9 p.m. my youngest and I are finishing the brownie pan so it all balances out. But I would always tell Mr. Trump and then President Trump the tweets that I liked and the tweets that the public liked because you can actually look at the likes and the retweets. And for a while those were when he announced who was visiting Trump Tower for Transition, who he was interviewing for Secretary of State, what head of state had called and what they talked about. And then for a very long while it was also his, I think, famous tweet about wearing a mask with him in the picture wearing a mask. I said, see, that's gotten something like something crazy, like 300,000 or 500.”
2022-06-30 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 496 — Kellyanne Conway · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Started with the campaign where people would say to me, oh, thank God you're there. Can you take his phone? Can you put a fake bluebird on the little Twitter app? That's what they're telling me. And I say, well, no, I'm not going to do that. And I conclude, and I wrote in my book, David, I concluded that with Donald Trump and Twitter, and I told him that, he needs to tweet like we need to eat. It's just about better choices. And I like to say,”
2022-06-30 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 496 — Kellyanne Conway · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Several things that started in the campaign where when I took over his campaign manager and I write about that in the first part of the book as well, that amazing conversation and offer from the president, the only person I told that day that Mr. Trump made me the offer was my husband George, who was very pro-Kellian and very, very pro-Donald Trump at the time. And for a long time thereafter, George said Kellyan, I've listened to your pitch so many times. I've watched the men and the Republican consultancy walking Rico violation, by the way. Still, I watched them sideline you and dismiss you and denigrate you. This is your chance. And George said he didn't just urge me to take the job. He insisted I do it. He said, you know, with you, Trump can win. And we talked about that. But I wanted to give you that context. So it started in the campaign.”
2022-06-30 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 496 — Kellyanne Conway · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“It's a lot of Donald Trump. And I think that with Joe Biden, he became the not Trump. And there wasn't enough, I think there wasn't enough maybe scrutiny and conversation about many of the things we see now.”
2022-06-30 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 496 — Kellyanne Conway · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“No, I don't think he did enough of that at all. And I think that Vice President Biden was benefited, I write in my book by about May. I tell the president, I changed my mind. It's good for Vice President Biden that he's in the bunker, in the basement, whatever he was doing in that room in Wilmington because we've never had such a golf G-U-L-F between the exposure of two presidential nominees, party nominees. You had maybe a total of an hour a week. We had quantified it, about an hour a week of Joe Biden. Maybe he'd go into a gymnasium, have people sit in those circles, or he'd give an interview for 10 minutes, and maybe another one. So an hour or so leak of Joe Biden versus two hours a day of Donald Trump. That's a lot of Donald Trump.”
2022-06-30 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 496 — Kellyanne Conway · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“No, because I never had the courage to run like that. I knew I would never be her someday because it takes not just fire in the belly, but I think a lot of bile in the throat now to actually put your name on the ballot and run for something. But I watched Geraldine Ferraro. And, of course, the party out of power goes first. So Mondale Ferraro went first. I was really excited to hear her. And I thought she was inspirational and transformative and all of that, but I was very struck by the optimism and the peace through strength. And I would say just sort of American message coming through from the sitting president Ronald Reagan, who also talked an awful lot about what he had done in those first four years, which, as you know, because you worked for a two-term president, presidents have to make the case as to why you don't want to change horses mainstream, why you need to keep going by four years is just not enough time to get everything done.”
2022-06-30 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 496 — Kellyanne Conway · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“picture capturing it. But I was bitten and smitten almost immediately. And right before that, David, about a month or two before that, the local newspaper called The Hammond News asked me to cover the two political conventions and write about them from the perspective of a high school senior. Now I have to tell you, covering the conventions in Little South Jersey did not mean getting on a plane and getting to go and witness the conventions. It meant watching them on the big Magnavox where I was still our remote control. There was no such thing. It was me changing the channels. And I was excited in 1984 to watch Geraldine Ferraro, another Italian Catholic woman, congresswoman from Queens, reminded me an awful lot of the women who had raised me in that house. And I was happy to hear her.”
2022-06-30 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 496 — Kellyanne Conway · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yes, thank you. First of all, I have to thank him for reading the book because I've given many interviews now. It's very obvious who reads the book and who doesn't. And David read the book. We discussed it. And thank you for doing that because I think it just makes for a better interview. So it was September 1984. I'm a senior in high school. I'm going to miss the ability to vote in that year's elections by about two and a half months. But I'm a senior in high school. I'm co-captain of the field hockey team at the local Catholic high school. And I am first in the class, and I was the blueberry princess, so I got to meet President Ronald Reagan. He came to Hammond, New Jersey, to the middle of Bellevue Avenue, where two nights ago, my friends and relatives had a big book event for me very near to there. And I got to meet him. It was just a very brief hello, how are you? Shake the hand. I think there's a Polaroid or two.”
2022-06-30 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 496 — Kellyanne Conway · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“There was no swimsuit competition. It was really just how good of a farm worker you were. And if you gave a good interview, yes.”
2022-06-30 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 496 — Kellyanne Conway · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“But look, that childhood I learned life lessons that steal me S-T-E-L. So many ways. And also, I think the greatest gift of growing up very humbly and very modestly, and I didn't know what we didn't have, they didn't make me feel like I was part of the adult worries, adult concerns. Part of that, David, is when Donald Trump comes in and starts talking about the forgotten man, forgotten woman, I add to it forgotten child because I'm a big school choice charter school advocate, I understood exactly whom he was speaking to. I understood why people were standing in line for hours at these rallies.”
2022-06-30 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 496 — Kellyanne Conway · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“He just wasn't around. He was around. He was a few towns over, but I think he was embarrassed and very self-centered. But when I met my father, he asked for a second chance. And I'm glad I gave him one because I got a father and a half brother in the process. And I learned the value as an imperfect Christian asking for mercy, redemption, second chances, and forgiveness, that if you ask it, you must also learn to grant it. And it was a very early, powerful message of my life. And it's really helped me as total strangers, miserable as they all are and seem to be, you know, picket me and my family and make fun of the way I look or the way I found or where I work or who my boss is. I've learned to pray for those people, David, because what's got everybody so miserable? Get out, walk the loop a little bit, get some fresh air, find a hobby and it's not a total stranger.”
2022-06-30 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 496 — Kellyanne Conway · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I was always taller than the boys and chubbier than the girls, and the only one except for a girl whose dad had died in Vietnam to not have a father in the whole Catholic elementary school. So I always felt a little bit different, but I learned that different is unique dressed up a little bit differently. And it gives you an entirely other perspective that maybe others don't have. And I worked with people like Ivanka Trump, Sarah Huckabee Sanders. Even if you see Mika Brzezinski, you see these women who have made it on their own in their respective industries, very successful, very powerful. And they learned from their fathers. They are their father's daughters, even though they've made it on their own. So they don't just start. They're not just hatched in adulthood trying to figure it out on their own. So I was the latter. But I feel that with my father, I met him when I was 12, and it meant an awful lot to my mother that I meet him, that I have a relationship that the three of us”
2022-06-30 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 496 — Kellyanne Conway · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Impeach Nixon buttons I made and put on my little skirt when I was seven or eight. But I have to tell you I don't remember ever having a single political conversation in my childhood. We talked about all these issues, family, faith, freedom, kneeling for the Lord, standing for the flag, military family, the guys in my family were and still pretty much all of them non-college educated members of the unions of the trades, plumbers, welders, carpenters, hairdressers for the women, iron workers. They graduate high school with their diploma and a skill certificate. They go to work the next day and they support themselves and their families for 40 years until they retire. God bless them. But in the case of my father, I guess I just didn't notice until I was older. I remember coming home from first grade one day hysterically crying and I went to a cathedral.”
2022-06-30 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 496 — Kellyanne Conway · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I didn't know what I didn't know. I had a lot of love around me and many people, male and female, in my life, David and my extended family, who really were always there for me. And I grew up in this adult household and listened to conversations about abortion and adultery and homosexuality in the 70s and 80s and religion and the wars. I remember all of this, the impeachment of Richard Nixon. was, I think, upset that he had preempted the young and the restless and the price is right. So I had these.”
2022-06-30 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 496 — Kellyanne Conway · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And a feminist And probably a man hater, too. To David's point, I was raised in a house of all Italian Catholic women, South Jersey's version of the Golden Girls with the House Coats and the Cheesecake and everything. My father left when I was three, no child support, no alimony. Don't feel sorry for me and don't be mad at him. We met when I was 12 and we had a present-loving relationship for 40 years until he passed away two years ago. Can I just interrupt you one second and ask that?”
2022-06-30 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 496 — Kellyanne Conway · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“First of all, thank you for having me. I've been looking forward to this really since the manuscript was delivered to the publisher quite a few months ago. I had Donna Brazil interview me for a C-SPAN afterwards. I was very insistent that I have one of the other three women really whoever ran a presidential campaign and to have the master right here is quite exciting. I also want to thank the university club, gorgeous room each and every one of you for being here, those in the Overflow room, and thank you for all your work at the Institute because training and inspiring and instructing the next generation really is the task for all of us mature wise old people at this point. I start my book saying by every imaginable metric, I should have been a Democrat and a liberal.”
2022-06-30 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 496 — Kellyanne Conway · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source