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  1. “Well, I would also, actually, that's a really nice point. I have learned that you really want to celebrate your successes because even in the greater scheme of things, I've learned this in the startup world where you're constantly facing death, you know, like why should you even exist? Do your customers want your product or whatever? And then something will happen where you're like, wow, we really nailed that. That's really great. Got a product released or got some good kudos from something. All right, everyone. We're going to go celebrate. And actually, everyone's still like, no, no, we've got all these other problems. Nope. We're going to go celebrate. And then we'll go back to the problems. If you don't do that, then it's just us building on this kind of, you never really get to celebrate.”

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  2. “If I do see a problem, like in case of the obesity epidemic, I work really hard to help with that. Nonprofits called Big Green, and we work with 150 nonprofits around the country to help Americans grow food again, get connected to their food, because I really believe growing food changes your life. And so, okay, let's go do that. So I'll help out where I think we really do can make a difference. But if you step back a little, things are actually getting better. It's just a bumpy ride.”

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  3. “Look at how things have changed over the past 50 years. Can clearly say, oh, wow, poverty rates have gone down, infant mortality's gone down dramatically, all these things have gone down a lot. So if you look at it on a daily basis, you can tell that life is very dramatic, you know, whether it's something's blowing up on X or from the newspapers or whatever. And you can really get caught up into it. But if you look back over the past few decades, things are getting better. And I mean at the fundamental level, like are less people hungry? Are more people... There is war going on, of course, but are there less wars? Yes. And so I think if we all just step back a little bit, it's less about hope. It's more of perspective and reflection. And if”

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  4. “A communal vulnerable connection, like we mentioned, vulnerability earlier, the most vulnerable place, actually that's when you have some of your most beautiful meals.”

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  5. “To sit there and share a meal and feel the life kind of come back into us. And by the end of the night, we're actually having a good time.”

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  6. “And so he showed, I met him and he showed me this little tiny little grocery store which had a few things like canned tomatoes. Nothing fresh. And I made this dish that was kind of a version of an Italian version of chili, you know, just baked beans and sweating onions and then tomatoes. And it was a big pot of food because it's a group of people. We didn't even have a table. And we just put the big pot in the middle and we had our little paper plates and took a scoop as we needed it. And it was, do we need the gathering place of food brings people together in the most difficult times? And it was one of my favorite memories because I was able to bring my gift to this group of incredible people that their hearts were broken, you know.”

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  7. “And the first one had blown up. And so the second one, I think it was the second one, blew up. And it was so depressing. It was just like, oh, and there's nowhere to go. There's no distraction. You're on this military race. You don't resocialize. So it's just we're all together. And I had gotten to know, you know, for me, I'm not part of the team, right? I'm just there for emotional support or whatever because it's cool. And so I got to know this a couple of people locally and got to know this one guy who had a mobile home, best view in the world, but it's just a mobile home with a patch of grass next to it. And I was just desperate to find food that wasn't from the cafeteria because it's the worst food you can imagine.”

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  8. “Hardest times in SpaceX We were in the Mid Pacific in Kwasalin, and my brother had sold PayPal, he'd done well financially, but in the rocket world, that money goes away really quickly. And we were in this military base in Kwajalin. And I think it was the second rocket that blew up. I'm not sure. We didn't have infinite resources. I certainly didn't have the resources. I mean, I'm there to support brotherly support. But so every rocket launch was do or die.”

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  9. “I would say that I still do that, but I call those forcing functions instead of destinations. Sure. Because you're just forcing people to crank on some code or cookbook or whatever because you have a date. And oftentimes there's a reason. I mean, it's 20th anniversary, you want to get the cookbook out. We have a reason. We didn't make this up out of thin air. And so that does push you. But just because we have the cookbook doesn't mean it's a destination. It means it was a forcing function to get it out there. Now we're on the journey.”

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  10. “I think that's a really good insight. I actually live with this concept of a growth mindset versus a fixed mindset. And it's a, I don't know, a philosophical term where fixed mindset is about the destination. And a growth mindset is about learning on the journey. And I think that I'm a happier person because I take that learning on the journey approach. Is really frustrating if you're always, it has to be about the destination every time.”

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  11. “I'm going to get driven around by the car. I'm going to say, I want to go to this. Barbecue Take me there and park me there. And I'm going to see how it is. And this is the latest Model 3 that we have out into production. Anyone can buy it. And it's super affordable. And it's like, okay, full self driving is a journey, right? It's not like there's a destination. It's a journey forever. So let's see where we are on the journey today.”

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  12. “Executive has an iPhone with wheels, but actually talk about autopilot like right after this interview, I'm going to go. Out the latest Model 3.”

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  13. “Do or die. We were borderline bankrupt like two or three times that year. I mean, it's just every, and everyone was hating on us about whether we'd get that done. Model 3 today is incredibly affordable car, like a $300 a month kind of lease and $3,000 down. That's where you get the scale. That's where you get people who, and by the way, it's a great car. It's even a better Model 3 now than it was five years ago. We don't function the way car companies function, right? We function more like how an iPhone company, Apple works. So our Model 3 today is this year is better than last year. It's like way better. And we just keep getting better.”

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  14. “So I was like, okay, this is going to be great. This is going to be an interesting, we're going to create something interesting here. I think the real transformative thing for Tesla was the Model 3. When we were able to get the price down for the world”

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  15. “And I drove it. Even the dashboards, there's no dashboard. It's just like a steering wheel and it's just like wires and everything around. And I remember there's a street we were running, the Bay Area called Bing Street. And I was just like, no traffic. So I'm just going to drive this. I'm going to floor it and see what happens And it was a feeling I'd never experienced before. Gasoline cars have an inertia to them, so This is just, it was like being shot out of a cannon. And I thought, okay, this is going to be real”

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  16. “We're going to take an appropriate technology and put it in an appropriate car so that you have, because electric motors, they have constant torque, incredible power, put it in a car that looks like a sports car. So the idea was to put it in the Lotus Elise, redesign it a bit. And even at that point, I was like, this is theoretically good. So I'm going to join and help build it. But I was not convinced that it would work because General Motors had done such a terrible job of making everyone think that these things are terrible. But I was curious. And the time that I fell in love with the company and its mission was I was driving in a, what's called a mule where we take a car and we take the engine out and we put in an electric drivetrain.”

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  17. “No, no, I certainly didn't. What I saw in it was Real for me personally, I was really upset that General Motors had killed their EV car. There's even a movie called Who Killed the Electric Car. And I knew that the physics of Electric is perfectly fine. I mean, there's no reason why you couldn't use an electric car to drive around. What resonated with me with the business plan was take an electric motor which is really a high performance motor and put it in a sports car and sell it at a high price as a way to enter into the market. Whereas what others had been doing, at least General Monas had done is you put it into a really crummy car and you sell it as a commuter vehicle that doesn't really work that well and looks ugly as well. They really did everything they could to make that thing as ugly as in. And then I was like, okay, I get it.”

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  18. “I still have the first business plan, so I didn't join as a founder, I joined as a founding board member. And so I actually didn't write the business plan. I got to read it. And I still have that. I still have it as a part of history.”

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  19. “Make money when we go to acquired, it was a bittersweet moment because Compaq had owned Ulta Vista, wanted to merge. So that's sort of regular search with the best search engine at the time, pre-Google, with Zip2, which would be the best local search, and it would be a Yahoo killer. And the Compact just wanted to make money by taking the company public, but they wouldn't give us any stock. They paid us cash, which turned out actually very well for us because the whole Internet bubble burst. We didn't know that at the time. And so it was bittersweet because they essentially wanted our company and we were welcome to stay, but you don't have to. And that feeling was pretty rough feeling.”

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  20. “No one had figured out Edwins or anything, didn't realize how big of a business this was, but we all knew this was a thing. And everyone was using it”

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  21. “I would say it was success, but it was also. A very hard company to build, and I mean it because the internet in those days was a boom time. We were being funded, but you couldn't make any money. And so it was actually really hard, the constant outside criticism that we aren't for real. This is not going to survive. This is not going to, and it started to feel that way. We're like, wow, man, this is, we are doing something that is great, that people are using. And we were top 100 website. Most of our work was through folks like The New York Times. So we have even much, much busier than that. But there was just no money at it. Even today, go to Google Maps, there's no money in it, it's just local search that is needed for everyone. And it became an add on to search, but even remember in those days you couldn't make money at search either”

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  22. “Just could not like today. We live in this world where we're told our directions all the time. Before this moment you could not be told your directions And all of a sudden, you could. It wasn't like a little thing”

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  23. “That was it. Yeah. We're like, okay, that sounds great. So we put it up on the internet, and back in those days, it might take 60 to 120 seconds to actually give you an answer back. But it was amazing. The door-to-door directions. The ability to take a map and zoom in and zoom out, we use these things 10 times a day now. It was amazing. We were the first two humans to see it on the internet. This stuff didn't even exist to the world. Navtech was building it for Hertz NeverLost, which would come out a few years later. This was not something that people knew existed. This was something we discovered that it existed. And we're going to put it on the internet and share it with the world.”

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  24. “Yeah, so mapping had been on the internet, but vector based mapping had not. So that's the ability to zoom in or zoom out and it's really data versus an image that comes across. And we went to this company called Navtech. My brother and I, and we just asked for the data. And this is Silicon Valley. They wrote us one page letter that we had to sign and said, here's all of our data. We own it. You don't own it, but you can use it on the internet. And if you ever make any money on it, you have to call us.”

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  25. “Would say if we have an openness to learning, which does require humility, You course correct, or you help get other people to help you course correct. But it does start with humility because if you try and pretend you have all the answers, you don't.”

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  26. “Why are you not making any sales? And so he actually went with me on a few sales calls, and I was like, oh, he was great. You're doing this wrong. You're doing that wrong. You're doing this wrong. And change those three things. And it was like a... Like a watershed moment, just like all of a sudden, and I just followed the instructions of what this guy had told me, all of a sudden, every single sale I would make. I can't believe that I, it was really my lack of humility. To learn from someone else, I was like, no, I'm approved. I can do this without your teachings. I was going to fail”

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  27. “It's. Our family are wonderful and everything, but they. Pretty much everyone's an entrepreneur. And of course, not everyone is perfect, not everyone's doing it successfully all the time. But when you're young and you want to prove yourself, it really was putting my heart on my sleeve. I started the business in this part of Toronto. And for the first, paint the houses in the summer, but you do all your sales before the summer, you know, all the way. And I said, oh, I'm like, oh my God, I'm just... I'm just going to fail. And I remember that my whole nervous system was like, I'm a failure. I remember how this gentleman who was like, you seem like you'd know what you're doing.”

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  28. “With excitement. Yeah, like that doesn't move your needle. What the heck? And so I was really disappointed with the banking world. Anyway, so that was also fun. Then I got back to business school and I cancelled all of my business classes I possibly could. I was actually in business school so I couldn't cancel them all finance courses. I was like, I'm done with that industry. I'm not going back. So the vulnerable part for me was my whole family's full of entrepreneurs. And there was this franchise to do house painting. And I genuinely was afraid that I wouldn't be good at it. And I was like, wow, I really am afraid of failure. It's very easy to avoid entrepreneurship. But if your whole family is entrepreneurs, and you go in and you aren't good, I was really afraid.”

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  29. “Not so much that it was a magic trick, it was the lack of appreciation for innovation. They just looked at it and they were like, that's nice. Like, we're going to have someone spend hundreds of hours. Doing something. And now it's something you can do in a minute.”

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  30. “No, no, it's like a sounding. I mean, for me, I was like, guys, this is so obvious. And so I got all that done and this job was supposed to take three or four months because it's really you're doing this with a pencil. And now I'd created this macro that you could not just do it. You could do it. You could tweak it and say, oh, I want this area of the world or this area of this month or that month compared to that month, you know, all the normal things you could do with the spreadsheet. And the software was on a floppy disk. Here's the software and just put it into your computer. All right now open one, two, three, and it just pops up with a little box that type in your dates and the whole little, I code a little thing like that. And What I was astounded by was”

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  31. “So I sent a note. I wrote a nice letter to the database administrator who I didn't really know. And I said, would you be open to me saying hi and maybe I can get access to the file rather than print the damn thing out and use a pencil? She responded right away. And we hit it off. I mean, she was great. And so she's like, of course you can have it. I'm like, I can't believe these guys are doing what they're doing. So for the first couple of weeks of the summer, I wrote code in Lotus 123 that would, it's going to sound crazy, but you type in the date range. You type in the geography and you type in which part of the bank you care about and it will literally just create a new spreadsheet and it will just a macro would print it out. It was like a magic trick for these guys.”

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  32. “Go do it. Just use the pencil. So I went to the head of the database. I just asked, you know, those days you had the Manila envelope where you can just write the name of the person that you want this to go to and it'll go to them. It's like email, I guess, but there's no... There's no filter. So”

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  33. “The original Wall And I was so disappointed with the people that I was around I was just I totally misunderstood what the banking world is. It was very large bank. I'm sure if I'd gone to a more aggressive one, maybe I would have had a better experience when I say aggressive, meaning someone was paying attention. Like this was just people kind of showing up and not doing much. It was funny. So this is great. So 1991, 92, one of those summers, but the summer job was literally you go to the, they print out the sales for all brokerage houses for the whole company. Pile of papers that's maybe four or five feet tall, and you have a pencil and you add things up using your pencil and a calculator. And I had known about Lotus 123 forever. Excel was coming out of me. I was like, Hey guys, you know that there's a different way to do this.”

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  34. “Yeah, so I had experience in college running a house painting business that for me was my first experience with success. It was very, very hard. It was a franchise where they teach students how to paint houses. But I was good at it. I built a team of 30 people after about two years. And so I was like, I had a taste of, hey, I'm not unable to do this. In fact, my most vulnerable place I remember is an entrepreneur was I just loved the idea of Wall Street and finance. It was kind of a lurid by it. This was in late 80s. I'm in high school and there was a lot of these books, Liars Poker and others that came out. I was like, oh man, this is awesome. These people must be amazing. So I went to business school and I busted my ass to get like a kick-ass summer job. And I got a job in one of the main banks. And it was in Toronto, but it was like...”

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  35. “Yeah, exactly. This was not tourist related. We did, of course, we stopped at Mount Rushmore at night, which you can see nothing.”

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  36. “I remember we broke down in the bad lands of South Dakota. An hour from Rapid City. And that road is empty. And so we actually slept in the car because there was just no one around, no cell phones in those days. And eventually a trucker picked us up. I was just like, man, you guys are the dumbest kids on the planet. It was like 21. He was maybe 22. But he was so nice to us and so kind to us and fought us a mechanic in Rapid City and then found us a tow truck. And you find the most wonderful people. When you're in a place of distress, people do want to take care of other people. Yeah, I want to help.”

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  37. “First, like a road trip like that, yeah, for sure. But it was really not a road trip for tourist sites. We went to, though weirdest places. And actually, I would say we didn't go to them. We broke down in the weirdest places. Because that's when we stopped.”

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  38. “And the engine was not cooling, so we had to put the heat on The heat blasting to cool the engine, keep the engine cool, and keep the windows down because the other can't Just in a furnace, you're driving.”

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  39. “That was awesome. So we went from Silicon Valley to Philadelphia. My brother's old, like a really cool, one of those very old BMWs, not ones from the 60s or 70s. But the car didn't work. It would break down all the time. But we had a blast. I remember going through needles. On the border of California, Arizona, the town hall of Needles. It's the hottest place in America.”

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  40. “Yes, exactly. And sometimes what I recall was arguing with Brother Aya and saying, no, I'm fine. Like, what are you talking about? Leave me alone. And yeah, how did that work?”

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  41. “Do it in a community, you do it with others, and you feel people go through their pain and their processing. So I know the whole gamut, but the thing that I found most powerful about it, and profoundly powerful, I would say. First of all, it's non-recreational. So no one should do this for a good time. This is not a good time. This is a very I'm actually going to say that word, but it's not traumatic, it's profound So it's more like you don't have. You really leave who you were before behind. And then you become the person you will be afterwards.”

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  42. “Yeah, sure. So, first of all, I think there are many different ways to do it, right? So, and I have done, I've done many, many different ways. There's a very Western medicine approach where you have doctors that look after you during the day. Put an eye mask on, you're on a futon, and you really are in a Western medicine setting. And it's frankly for me, has been the most powerful experience. I feel the most comfortable because I'm part of Western medicine in my upbringing. The other extreme, but they're kind of in between, would be very partly a Peruvian ceremonies where you're probably where you're going to go. Very much about”

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  43. “I learned about Mother Iowa. You have this experience of talking to, actually, I would say the closest thing to breaking my neck, that feeling was ayahuasca”

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  44. “Yes, yeah, that's how I feel. And it's a beautiful presence, it's not a presence that is trying to intervene. It's not a presence that is trying to tell you what to do. Just a beautiful presence.”

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  45. “You're actually a watcher. You're not just like who is the person watching that? That's you, actually. Your thoughts are floating through your mind, but you are the watcher. I was like, oh, that's interesting. Okay, so I'm going to learn that. I'm going to be the watcher. And what I learned was I'm watching these thoughts go by. There's a consistent other presence. And I'm like, what is that consistent other presence? It's not a thought. That is not something I can kind of let it float away. And it doesn't even want to float away. It's just a consistent other presence that I can watch and feel.”

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  46. “What came from that? I think this one So, one of the things I do is meditate. I've been meditating for many, many years. And the way I meditate is I sit and I listen to my thoughts and I simply just do that for 15 to 20 minutes. And it just calms the nervous system and I might breathe and just breathe through because it's been a stressful day. And it's just a beautiful way to kind of do it around. Remember I said I used to do a scotch at the bar after work. Now I go meditate. A little bit better for my. For my health, but meditation, I was taught was Sam Harris actually taught me this, was not so much just about watching your thoughts, but realizing that you're a watcher.”

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  47. “Yeah. So that's all you. Yeah, all of the, which is really true, evolution, it literally is true We all are photons from the sun came in and we both”

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  48. “I've done ayahuasca and I've spoken to what they call mother ayah which is another version of God. It's a divine presence. Maybe I think it's a better way to say it. I've also had this debate in my head, and I'm like, maybe it's just me. I'm talking to me. And as my peaceful, more kinder, more less caught up in the emotion of the day version of me. Maybe it's me. Okay, maybe it is, but it's there.”

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  49. “That was it. It was just clear. It was a clear voice. It wasn't for a moment, wasn't like a flash of light or anything. It was probably two weeks of clear voice.”

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  50. “So they did the surgery, but I had this very clear voice in my head that I've kind of determined that it's God. I'm not religious, but I don't know how else to describe the voice. And this voice was very clear. You're going to work with kids and food. Okay, where did that come from? I'm like tech CEO. I have a restaurant. And then we were working with some kids in schools with like some helping a local nonprofit. And look, no, you're just going to work on kids and food. My good friend Antonio and my brother were in the hospital, and I was like, I'm going to work on kids and food. And was there like a Crazy, he's lost his mind. But not that they argued. No one was arguing with me, but Just going to do that. I need to say it out loud. And I remember resigning from my job as the CEO from the hospital.”

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