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Kimberly Jones

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“Stop telling people at the pageants to say I want world peace because it seems impractical, it seems unattainable, and it frightens people as it should. But if you stand up and you say what I want to see is less children go to bed hungry at night, that I can win. And that's how we win.”
2022-02-01 · Intelligence Squared · How We Can Win: Kimberly Jones and Alvin Hall in conversation · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“You have to know. You have to know the impact of slavery, of reconstruction, of Jim Crow, of the crack epidemic, of police brutality, and how it impacts every piece of our life. And I just wanted to break it down piece by piece so that people can see it because I think when you feed it to people that way, piece by piece, small chunks, bits and bits of connectivity, it nurtures empathy, it nurtures an understanding. But the most important thing I think it nurtures and what I hope is the outcome of this book is that it nurtures a desire to then get up and do something. Because as you said, then people can realize how practical their piece can be.”
2022-02-01 · Intelligence Squared · How We Can Win: Kimberly Jones and Alvin Hall in conversation · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I think we live in an echo chamber now where people want to hear voices that say everything they want them to say on brand with their thought process or they're wrong. We also live in this very like fast-paced social media concept where every idea has to be completely bite-sized. And I think that's why people connected to my video because it was concise. But what I wanted to do to this book is say that we're looking at two small of a vantage point. I wanted people to make the connections. I wanted to do real critical race theory. You know what I mean? I wanted to do real critical race theory and say.”
2022-02-01 · Intelligence Squared · How We Can Win: Kimberly Jones and Alvin Hall in conversation · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Have these meetings where the head of the NAACP, the head of the Urban League, the head of all these people are coming together and we're saying this year we're going to talk about food insecurity. TPU, we can stand up and say this is what we're doing. And we're welcome to share our modeling plan for you. We're welcome to show you how we were in community with the MPUs, how we were in community with the farmers, how we worked with the city, how we helped to support the mayor who said he would help us with this.”
2022-02-01 · Intelligence Squared · How We Can Win: Kimberly Jones and Alvin Hall in conversation · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“By community, how to get healthy food in their community. If we can't work it out, one of the things my organization is doing, the people's uprising, is we're hearing a lot of complaints about black farmers about how difficult it is for them to get entree into the farmers market. Then we're looking at the heads. We're talking to the heads of NPU saying what a hard time they are having getting grocery stores in their community. So we thought, okay, our goal this year is to connect the two and how do we do that? Well, we just started on doing farmers markets in those communities with the black farmers and to work with the city to be able to take snap benefits basically to take food stamps at those events. So now the black farmers have a way to sell their perishables before they go bad. The people in the community are getting healthy food and those in the community who are receiving assistance to get healthy food are still able to go to those farmers markets and get those healthy foods. And so it's like we have”
2022-02-01 · Intelligence Squared · How We Can Win: Kimberly Jones and Alvin Hall in conversation · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I think the first step is all of these organizations who, for the record, before I name them, let me tell you they're all doing absolutely amazing jobs. But I think that what it is, I think it's time for a real sit down meeting amongst leadership, the head of the NAACP, the head of the urban league, organizations like mine, the People's Uprising, all different organization leaders sit down and annually and say which two main things are we tackling this year and what universal curricula are we going to use and what pooled lobbying money are we going to put together to fight these two things? Is it this year? Have we decided it's voters rights and food inequity? Great. Let's start working on that. Let's look at the NPUs and realize how we can teach people community.”
2022-02-01 · Intelligence Squared · How We Can Win: Kimberly Jones and Alvin Hall in conversation · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I don't care about the world. I know the world likes to listen to me, but I don't care about the world. I care about Atlanta, Georgia, because that is where my power lies. That's where I can have impact. I'm right now working on a program to help black farmers. I'm working with city council and commissioners to get that work done. I'm going to be using city and state funds to get that done. Microsoft moved into our community. My organization immediately set up a meeting with Microsoft and said, okay, you're bringing all these jobs here. Let us show you who are some of the people who need to be trained, who need some of these jobs because we have a wealth gap here in Atlanta.”
2022-02-01 · Intelligence Squared · How We Can Win: Kimberly Jones and Alvin Hall in conversation · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“You can really get involved in the allocation of funds in your local municipality. So if you really want change, we got to stop showing up one million strong to the federal election and then 25 people to the local election. You know, people need to, we need to teach civics. People are having this great debate about what we need to be teaching in school. We need to teach proper civics. Most people don't realize that the jury rolls are pulled from the voter rolls. So if you want a fair trial for an Ahmad Aubrey, then you need people who actually represent that community in the jury. Well, how do we get them in the jury? They have to be registered to vote. And so your vote gives you entree locally into so much more than you realize. And so the way you can make change is just.”
2022-02-01 · Intelligence Squared · How We Can Win: Kimberly Jones and Alvin Hall in conversation · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And so 10 steps. You take 10 steps difference and it's the difference between a citation and a sentence. And so we have to understand that our power lies, we want to change it. We got to change it community by community, municipality by municipality, because that's where we actually have power. I talk to the commissioners. I talk to the city council people here. I talk to the mayor here. Even me and Kimp, we've had our tents here in Georgia, you know, and it's like at the end of the day, though, that is where your real power lies. I cannot get on the White House lawn, but I could go right down there too. I can go right to the capital. I can go right to City Hall. I could even go to the governor's mansion. You know what I mean? And have these conversations and be impactful in my community and talk about what needs to be done and look at the budgets because people don't realize politicians are really just glorified accountants. Their primary job is moving around budget. You know what I mean? And allocating funds. So it's like.”
2022-02-01 · Intelligence Squared · How We Can Win: Kimberly Jones and Alvin Hall in conversation · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“houses that are low income, but they're still there. And then I'm out of my seat, and they grow out further. You know what I mean? So one thing is we have to change the way in which politicians get money for their campaigns, how much money they can take, who they can take money from, and that kind of thing. That's one. I think the other thing is we have to recognize that our power is not federal, that it's local. I tell people all the time, here in Atlanta, if you stand on the corner of Moral and Immemorial, if you stand on one side of that street, you're in Fulton County. If you stand on the other side of that street, you're into Cab County. So a user's amount of marijuana on Fulton gets you a $50 citation, a user's amount of marijuana in the cab takes you to jail.”
2022-02-01 · Intelligence Squared · How We Can Win: Kimberly Jones and Alvin Hall in conversation · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, I think that the main thing that we have to do is we have to groom grassroots activists, grassroots advocates to take political seats. People who are not going to be bought and paid for by their endorsements. That's another thing. We need to change the way in which funds are raised for campaigns because, I mean, I'm not even making an excuse for them. You back somebody in a corner if their opponent has raised a million dollars and they've raised $5,000. Now they have to figure out how to get money from donors. And now these donors feel like they owe them a favor. So I take this money from a developer because I want to do the right thing. And even though I'm saying I don't want gentrification in my community, well, this one developer did give me half a million dollars. So I'm just going to let them in the door and then hope that they do the right thing and ask them to make $50.”
2022-02-01 · Intelligence Squared · How We Can Win: Kimberly Jones and Alvin Hall in conversation · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Things so to think that the person can watch this beautiful peacock that will be a rose growing in concrete and think I'm going to allow them entree to the pantry, it doesn't work. So what do you do? You have to continue to be okay with phenomenon that keep those people at bay. To me, one of the most devastating things that happened to the black community was the crack cocaine epidemic. But it did not have the same response in which the opioid epidemic has happened. Why? Because it, again, it is affecting that beautiful peacock that we can't allow to have Andre into the cabinet, into the pantry.”
2022-02-01 · Intelligence Squared · How We Can Win: Kimberly Jones and Alvin Hall in conversation · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Space. There's nothing anyone's going to say, even the cool cousin who's trying to convince you of the right thing to do. You still feel like, hey, y'all can have these Cheetos and that is it because the Doritos are mine. And when y'all all leave here, there's 12 of y'all. Y'all not going to eat the 12 mini bags of Doritos that are here and me and Nanna's house. And it's just like this notion that we expect people who have the pri privilege, but who are aware of our beauty and the way in which we affect the etymology of the language and the way we have single-handedly created every major form of music that has gone out of these shores in the way in which despite all the impression that we have, if you give us entree into something, we're still leaders in sports. We're still leaders in entertainment. We're leaders in philosophy and all these.”
2022-02-01 · Intelligence Squared · How We Can Win: Kimberly Jones and Alvin Hall in conversation · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I think that the issue is we are all under the impression that we grow up, right? And we don't. We're all adult babies. We're all still carry a lot of our childlike sentiments just in adult bodies with adult responsibilities. And what I mean by that is when you're five years old and you're at grandma's house and all the cousins come over, right? But you're the kid, although there's some marginalization there because you have to live with grandma. And so you know that, right? You know that you don't have the things that these other people have because you have to live with grandma. But you're in a privileged position because you live with grandma. Now, everybody's at grandma's house. The room is yours. The toys are yours. The snacks are yours. You do not want to be usurped in that.”
2022-02-01 · Intelligence Squared · How We Can Win: Kimberly Jones and Alvin Hall in conversation · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Man, if we're this smart and we're struggling, what about people who are not getting a proper education? What about single moms or single dads who don't have a great co-parent? What about people who grew up in foster care, who experienced abuse more than they experienced love? If we are struggling, and I'm looking around at my white counterparts and then I discovered that the median income here in my city in Atlanta for black families is seventeen thousand dollars, but the median income for a white family is $170,000. How can we win? There's got to be a fix in the game somewhere. So even though theoretically, we all know there's a fix in the game. I started looking for concrete evidence like what is the fix?”
2022-02-01 · Intelligence Squared · How We Can Win: Kimberly Jones and Alvin Hall in conversation · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“We're not talking about two people who are not educated. We are not talking about two people who didn't care, who didn't have people around us the entirety of our lives who loved us, but we struggled economically and we lived in a world where our son was definitely more economically marginalized than what he and I had grown up with. And so when I think about that, I'm like, if my child has two working parents who are relatively smart, who grew up surrounded by love, and we're struggling. We still live in a rough neighborhood. We still get frustrated when he comes home at the last minute with the field trip because we don't have the money for the field trip. You know what I mean? And now I got to call my sister and borrow money so that he can go on the field trip so he's not the kid that's looking like he's left out and that kind of thing. I thought.”
2022-02-01 · Intelligence Squared · How We Can Win: Kimberly Jones and Alvin Hall in conversation · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, I think a lot of it had been sitting there for years. And I think that's why that video was so explosive. Because it's the same thing. Like you were talking about when you said you had to go to therapy because it's like, it's compounded, right? So it's like compounded. And so, you know, me being what I think, you know, pretty intelligent person or, you know, smart person, when I think about the struggle that I went through and how although I grew up in a two-parent home working class family, my co-parent and I co-parent very well. I don't know, I talk about that a lot how well my son's father and I co-parent my son's father also incredibly smart man genius level smart and I thought about the early years of us raising our son and how much we struggled and and we're not talking about two people who don't want to work.”
2022-02-01 · Intelligence Squared · How We Can Win: Kimberly Jones and Alvin Hall in conversation · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Up, and I was signing. Geely and I in our presentation, we teach critical race theory and we talk about the book and we talk about ourselves. And I remember I was signing to this kid and he slid me his book, but he had a ripped up piece of notebook paper on top of the book that says, I have ADHD and seeing you today, I'm about to cry, just saying it again. He said, seeing you today made me believe that I could be something great.”
2022-02-01 · Intelligence Squared · How We Can Win: Kimberly Jones and Alvin Hall in conversation · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And so I think that it's very significant, especially for me being someone who has been positioned to be in leadership, I have to offer people my best self. And if my mental health is not on track, then how can I do that? And if I'm not self-aware about the need to track my mental health and stay on top of it, then I'm not. And guess what? When I, you know, my first two novels, I'm not dying with you tonight and why we fly are young adult novels, they're written for teenagers. I have a co-author, Geely, and I remember the first time that we were at a school, we were at a school in DC, and I shared with the class that I had an ADHD when we worked with an amazing organization called One Book that gives, it takes us to Title I Schools and then gives all the kids that we see a free copy of the book. And I remember when kids were lying.”
2022-02-01 · Intelligence Squared · How We Can Win: Kimberly Jones and Alvin Hall in conversation · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“It's important. It's super important. You know, I'm not a neurotypical person. I'm neurodivergent. I have ADHD. I live with anxiety. I live with PTSD. And so I, too, I am in therapy all the time. You know, I tell people all the time, you cannot expect well answers from sick people.”
2022-02-01 · Intelligence Squared · How We Can Win: Kimberly Jones and Alvin Hall in conversation · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“When my nieces and nephews and my grandkids and the neighbors' kids and some kid like me and Miss Deborah that lives on my block, when I have impact on their life, then I will have achieved greatness.”
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“a tdy any of those things because when I think about my grand mare my grandmother my granny my great aunts my mom's first cousins who do to proper black training I refer to them as auntie even though they were my mom's you know auntie and my uncles and my my granddads and all those people then those people inspired me and and gave me self-worth in a way that I could never thank them for. And just even their jokes and the sayings and the lessons on food and the things they taught me about how to grow my own food and all that has so it's so rich and I'm so grateful that I was a kid who grew up around a lot of old people and so it's like if I'm gonna be any”
2022-02-01 · Intelligence Squared · How We Can Win: Kimberly Jones and Alvin Hall in conversation · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yes, I tell people all the time people ask me what my aspirations are. I'm an author, they know that I am a content creator and an activist and all these things. And they ask me, what are my inspirations? And I think that they think that I'm going to say I want an image award and I want to be a New York Times bestseller and the Nobel Peace Prize and all these things. And I tell them the greatest thing that I'm ever going to be at any point in this life is the moment I become a big mama.”
2022-02-01 · Intelligence Squared · How We Can Win: Kimberly Jones and Alvin Hall in conversation · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Fight, but she definitely has in the last two years because all of us will be on her like Monty, please take a break. And she's like, I can't take a break until I get justice for my baby. And she was so selfless that for her, it wasn't just about getting justice for her baby. She founded an organization trying to get justice for all mothers in Georgia who had, who at one time that chapter had close to 100 members, who had experienced what she was experiencing. So she was fighting for a baby. She's fighting for these other hundred women. But now she's been taking vacations and, you know, her and her husband have had chance to spend more time with each other and focus on their child that's still here. Not that she ever lost focus, but it's just like, it's just joyful for me to get her just getting to watch her just be.”
2022-02-01 · Intelligence Squared · How We Can Win: Kimberly Jones and Alvin Hall in conversation · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“There is this idea, this trope that I'm so glad I'm seeing it a lot in the ziers and in the younger millennials that they're pushing it back against this trope that the strong black woman is the only mode in which we get to be in, which means we do have higher rates of heart attack, hypertension, things that are affected by stress, and also that there is this, listen, I do the work that I do because I'm passionate about it. I love it, but it's not required for everybody to do it. Some of the examples we just need set for little brown girls around the world is just a woman gleefully living in her joy and being present and being happy and being the kind of person who's excited about making bows on birthday gifts. And so we are not a monolith. And so I felt like just in work, there were times when I could just see the wearing on her from this.”
2022-02-01 · Intelligence Squared · How We Can Win: Kimberly Jones and Alvin Hall in conversation · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Well, you know, Monterey is such a lion. I mean, she too, she also is a great orator. I tell people all the time when we're on the front lines, I'm like, look, don't book me to go after Monty. I want to speak before her. And a lot of people say that they say that about me, but I say that about her. I'm like, look, I want to go before Monty. Because when that fire comes, I can't follow it. You know, It's interesting because she's doing it now. I've seen her do it in the last year, especially because now finally, after five years of us fighting, an indictment has come down on the officers that murdered her son. I wanted her to get back to also just being human. Because I feel like a lot of times the divine feminine of African American women, if however they choose to live in it, is not honored.”
2022-02-01 · Intelligence Squared · How We Can Win: Kimberly Jones and Alvin Hall in conversation · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And I feel like Jam's case is one of those cases. His mother always says this, and I agree with her it's probably the most heinous police brutality case in the history. They fired 110 rounds at this baby. He had 76 entry and exit wounds on his body. He had burns on his body consistent with flashbang grenades, and after they realized he was the wrong person they left his body lying there for eight hours unattended to. And so when I got to the march his mother had had these photos blown massive photos blown up of his autopsy photos. And so I walked miles side by side with his mother carrying one of his autopsy photos, and that's the moment where I realized, and this was five years ago, and this is the moment where I realized that just showing up at the periodic protest, posting on my Instagram was not enough.”
2022-02-01 · Intelligence Squared · How We Can Win: Kimberly Jones and Alvin Hall in conversation · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Met Yanajaha and she was this fierce warrior. It was shortly after this photo that went viral of her during Standing Rock where she's standing with her arm spread in front of a bulldozer. And so she works on both sides. She works for both the indigenous. Like her mother, she works for both the indigenous community and she works heavily with the black community. And so I met her during a stop the violence weekend here in Atlanta. We met through a mutual friend. At the time I was running a children's bookstore and then in my spare time, a dear friend of mine was running for city council when I was his campaign manager. And so I brought him down to the march because I thought it would be good because he's very union oriented. He actually is one of the presidents of the local chapter of the poor people's movement. And so he and I went down to this march and I marched alongside Monteria Robinson. Montaria Robinson is the mother of Jamarian Robinson.”
2022-02-01 · Intelligence Squared · How We Can Win: Kimberly Jones and Alvin Hall in conversation · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I really feel like the thing that brought me, I feel like there were two significant moments, right? That brought me into my own. The first was I met a dear friend of mine who's like my sister, Ganajaha Lonewolf, who calls herself a movement baby. She is the descendant of warriors. Her mother Wynnetta Lonewolf was very, because Yanajah is half black and half Lakota native. And so her mother was a leader in the indigenous movement, but also very, very heavily involved in the black community. Her mother was the publicist for years for Muhammad Ali. A lot of people don't know this. Her mother was responsible for the thrill in Manila and the rumble in the jungle. She put those together. Yeah. And so we're working on a project about Ms. Lonewolf, too. And so when I...”
2022-02-01 · Intelligence Squared · How We Can Win: Kimberly Jones and Alvin Hall in conversation · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Appraised lower than white homes in similar neighborhoods with similar square footage and all of that. Then so what happens is you have less tax value in these communities, which means you have less services and resources in this community, which means when I lived in Buckhead, I saw street sweepers all the time. When I lived in Bankhead, I did not. It doesn't mean that people in poor neighborhoods just are throwing trash on the ground and don't care and people in wealthier neighborhoods are not. What it means is in a wealthier neighborhood, someone's cleaning it up. And in a poor neighborhood, someone's not. So then now you see the trash that is there due to the lack of resource and service to this community. And then what that does is allow them to have an excuse to then lower the property value. I mean, it's like when people don't realize what we're talking about systemic.”
2022-02-01 · Intelligence Squared · How We Can Win: Kimberly Jones and Alvin Hall in conversation · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And it is also systemic racism that allows gentrification to happen and not just in the ways in which people think about it. Because when you look at what's happening in these marginalized neighborhoods, first of all, I was on a call with a bunch of British MPs and they gave me this language. They said to me in shock and awe when I explained to them that how we educate our children is based on property tax, which basically means that if you live in a poor neighborhood, you get a poor education and you have no resource. And if you live in a rich neighborhood, you get lots of money based on that property tax and you get a great education. So we are continuing an education gap just in that alone. So then also when you look at the fact that in marginalized communities, the entirety of what is happening, that there has been proven facts that black homes are”
2022-02-01 · Intelligence Squared · How We Can Win: Kimberly Jones and Alvin Hall in conversation · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, so when you talk about the economics of black people and why we now in a city like Atlanta, which is a thriving black city, a metropolis with a majority black people, but the median income for $17,000, the median income is $17,000 for black families and the median income for white families is $170,000. You have to talk about the impact of generational economic devastation. You have to look at things like Brooks Brothers, who is a family who has generational wealth who made their original money dressing slaves. That whole thing of slaves standing on the selling block in tattered clothes, that's Hollywood for entertainment. You dressed your slaves to the nine to sell them. You showed off your wealth to your white counterparts by having the most well dressed, enslaved people in the world. Well, who sold those clothes to dress those?”
2022-02-01 · Intelligence Squared · How We Can Win: Kimberly Jones and Alvin Hall in conversation · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Home ownership during that period built the white middle class ninety eight percent of that lending went to white America, two percent went to everybody else. So I'm not just saying 2% went to black people. I'm saying 2% went to everybody else. Black, Latin, Asian, Native, Indian, 2% went to everybody else. It was the biggest welfare system ever.”
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“And things like that, they could bank with Freeman's Bank. Well, Freeman's Bank didn't have the guidelines that other banks had, and they collapsed, and that bank was being led by racist white men who then collapsed that bank to the tune of what will be the equivalent now of about $66 million. And those same men who collapsed that bank due to bad investments and keep in mind out of hundreds of thousands of black people who thousands of thousands of black people who had invested in that blank, only dozens actually got their money back. Everyone else, their money was just lost. But those men who were over that bank mysteriously had money to invest in their new American technology, which was the railroad. And so, you know, and the list goes on. People talk about handouts in America and black people with reparations. Wanting an economic”
2022-02-01 · Intelligence Squared · How We Can Win: Kimberly Jones and Alvin Hall in conversation · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“He enjoyed making the plants or class come to him and beg for pardons to get back into the Union and what he gave them as a gift when they did that was to give them forty acres. Now, where do we think he's going to get this 40 acres from? He's taking it from these thriving black farmers who have built successful businesses, this community who has cornered a market. So that was one instance. Another economic instrument is the Friedman's Bank. The Freedmen's Bank was a bank that was put in place that would allow black people to bank with them thousands upon thousands upon thousands of these people who were being successful during reconstruction, building towns like Tulsa and Rosewood and Wilmington, North Carolina and Seneca Village, which was Seneca Village was actually a mix of black people and immigrants who were suffering bad views of themselves like the Irish and Italian.”
2022-02-01 · Intelligence Squared · How We Can Win: Kimberly Jones and Alvin Hall in conversation · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“People were able to get watermelon seeds, utilize that forty acres, and if he had a mule, he'd give him a mule to tend to their land. And it was extremely successful. You have to keep in mind, formerly enslaved people are coming out with the highest level of skill set. These are the blacksmiths, the carpenters, the nannies, the, you know, you know, they've been doing all of the work on these plantations. So you have communities that are filled with people that have every skill you need in order to run a thriving community. And then you have us really controlling the entirety of an industry of watermelon growth. We had begun to thrive. We had actually begun to thrive and then Lincoln was shot. Johnson, who felt like it wasn't black people, but that it was poor whites, which is what he had been who were under the foot of the rich planter class.”
2022-02-01 · Intelligence Squared · How We Can Win: Kimberly Jones and Alvin Hall in conversation · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“The amount of money they gave him to run the bureau was the amount of money they spent in a week during the Civil War. So basically they gave him no money. You know what I mean? And so what he did have access to was $850,000 acres of land that he could disseminate that was given to him that was won in the war, if you will. And so people always say, well, we didn't get our 40 acres of the mule. Well, I wish that was true. That would be less devastating. We actually did begin to get our 40 acres. And that's what General Oliver Howard was doing was giving out 40 acres of land to newly freed people. And so at the time, black people didn't have entree into the big money makers, which were cotton and tobacco. But what they could get that was really inexpensive was watermelon seeds. And so this is, again, now the root of the derogatory connection between black people and watermelon.”
2022-02-01 · Intelligence Squared · How We Can Win: Kimberly Jones and Alvin Hall in conversation · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“It is a repeated problem in America. When you think about the economics of how black communities have been withheld, it's so multi-layered, right? So the reason why I say, well, we need is reconstruction 2.0 is because reconstruction was actually working. Reconstruction was working until it was dismantled. When Lincoln was still in office, it was working. And then when he was murdered and Johnson took over, he dismantled everything that was working. General Oliver Howard, whom the HBCU in DC Howard University is named after, was running the Friedman's Bureau. The amount of money they gave him to run the Freedmen's Bureau, which was supposed to be a bureau similar to the Bureau of Indian Affairs that we have here for Native people, which is also not working in the capacity and should be. It needs improvements and changes. But it was supposed to be a similar thing and that it would tackle the needs of these newly freed people. And so”
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“Dick Gregory, and like people like that, um, and so, you know, it's just like, it's funny because I think about it now and I think, you know, people talk about alignment. I'm like, oh, God has been preparing me for this moment my whole life.”
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“You must be talking about Miss Deborah. Listen, I went home. Brilliant. My child is so brilliant. I have 15 year old son of my boyfriend and I, and I took them to my old neighborhood because I wanted them to see where I grew up and Ms. Deborah's son was outside shoveling snow at her house. And I was like, Carl, are you parents still live here? And he's like, yeah, my mom and dad still live here. And so I knocked on the door and she came out. And even in just 20 minutes of standing on that porch with her, we got in the car. I told my boyfriend and my son, I said, you see? You see what I was saying about Miss Deborah? She was still educating. And she would play, she had these records that she would play for me and she would play records for me about a move. And she would play records for me from, she would play, she would play like old school comedians, but old school comedians who would work. So who were woke. So she'd play like, you know, I'm like 10 years old and she's playing me like Paul Mooney. And, you know.”
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“Thought what a, even in my 13 year old mind, I was like, what a crazy connection that I have this one inspirational lady and this other and this one doesn't even know my relationship to this one and gives me her words to speak. And so that's the first time I came in first place at an oratory competition. And I still remember it to this day. And I'll tell you just a little piece of it because it's significant. And the beginning of it was, and I've carried this message, this speech with me for over 30 years, was we must never forget that economics is the reason the African were brought to America. We did not arrive on America shores like other immigrants looking for freedom and the land of opportunity. The African came to do work. We came to do the work that others could or would not do. We came and made others rich. The African was the backbone of the agricultural economy in the south and the textile industry in the north. Sound familiar?”
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“Black woman, this teacher Mrs. Carolyn Lumpkin, who although she may not have been aware of a need for diagnosis, she just felt like this kid needs a different way of learning. So she would do things like she knew that I was like, you know, my mother had positioned me to be resourceful. And like you said, to learn on my own. And I spent many countless hours at the library. And so when I would get restless, basically ADHD restless without a name, she would just look at me and say, Kimberly, do you have a lesson you want to teach today? And she would give me the floor for 30 minutes and let me teach class and I would teach people about Mega Evers and Percy O. Julian and, you know, Gasper Younga and all of these people. And so when she realized that the way in which I taught, she thought this kid is a great orator. And so she put me in oratory competitions. And I was winning. But the one piece that she gave me, she gave me a piece written in the Defender by Reverend Willie T. Barrow.”
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“So Reverend Willie Barrow for many years led Rainbow Coalition Operation Push, and she was very interested and she really believed in Frederick Douglass's philosophy that you couldn't always fix broken men, but you could definitely raise better children. And so she had an after school programs and all of this. And it's interesting because she just was this master orator. Even when she wrote, when I read articles that she wrote, we had a black newspaper in Chicago, The Defender. Even when she wrote articles, articles in the Defender, she was just a master of words and a master of the English language and how she put things together. And I admired that so much about her. And I went throughout my entire academic career undiagnosed with ADHD and I got blessed that for seventh and eighth grade I had this again another phenomenon.”
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“Because any after school program, any gifted program, anything from Dusabo Museum to the library, if there was something going on, my mother would be like, sign my kids up. What? You're teasing tap dancing classes on Fridays at the community center. My kids want to go. Oh, they're having a cheerleading squad for the Alderman. My daughter is wanting to participate. So we're like, my mother was just this wealth of resource and she made sure that we knew that there was more in the world than what was in our community.”
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“When I was two, my mother remarried when I was four to my stepdad, who was a phenomenal stepdad. He was widowed. He had three kids. My mom had four kids. So we became the Black Brady bunch, the seven of us. And you have seven kids. You have to keep them busy, especially on the south side of Chicago. Even though we grew up in a working class neighborhood, but we were surrounded by the hoods and we were definitely impacted by the trauma of the crack cocaine entrance into the black community in the early 80s. And so we called my mother to sign up, lady.”
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“Hated that job. And so she got a hookup from someone to work at the Sears Tower before they even, I mean, well, actually to work for Sears Corporate before they even built the Sears Tower. Actually, my next book, which is called The Tower, is Her Biography that she and I were working on before she passed away. But to cut to the chase, what my mother ended up doing was being a pioneer in AI. She programmed robots that delivered the mail throughout the Sears Tower in 1976. In 1976, 76. Yeah, she programmed robots that delivered the mail throughout the Sears Tower. And she went on to do many other phenomenal things. She also was an activist and community advocate. But the book that I'm writing about her next is centered around that time. But the joke that I tell people about my mother, because I grew up in a Brady Bunch family, my parents divorced.”
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“My mother, oh my God, it's so hard for me to talk about my mother, but I love to talk about my mother. My mother just recently passed in July. That's what makes it hard to talk about. Let's say her name. Her name is Lula Jones. My mother, Lula Jones. And so, but my mother was a phenomenal woman. She was an absolute leaf, phenomenal woman. She was highly intelligent, graduated from high school two years early, integrated her high school and all girls Catholic school, and then went on to college and fell in love with my dad and got married really young and had to join the workforce. She's an interesting woman. Her first job when she dropped out of college was she worked for Hugh Hefner. And then, yes, she worked for it. If she worked for Hugh Hefner, at the original Playboy mansion in Chicago, and she”
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“Correct, yes, but I live in Atlanta now, but I was born and raised in Chicago, but I feel like they're equally my home because I've now lived in each place the same amount of time.”
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