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Krista Tippett
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“But the way I used to work is that I'd get up early and I would just be clearing through correspondence and like my colleagues would get into the office and, you know, their inboxes would be full of all this stress for me. And what I had told myself forever is that this is how I got everything done. This is how I stayed on top of all these jobs I'm doing. This is how I was productive. So then when I committed myself to sitting quietly before I opened my inbox, you know, before I did anything like that, I didn't get as much done before seven o'clock in the morning. But it all got done, right?”
2017-02-21 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #223: Calming Philosophies for Chaotic Times -- Krista Tippett · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And I think this is very much the question you're asking. Like, I get a huge amount done in the first hour to hour and a half, but I'm awake in the morning. Like I'm a little bit OCD about my email inbox and I can't stand for it to be more than one screen. And I have to act on everything before I can get rid of it. But I am on top. I'm on top of a lot of things.”
2017-02-21 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #223: Calming Philosophies for Chaotic Times -- Krista Tippett · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Right, right. I think it, one of the things that I find really fascinating is how it changes one's experience of time And, um, Know I've thought a lot over the years. I know from my conversations with scientists and from the The kind of study I did of Einstein, you know, that time is an illusion. It's like the way we're experiencing it is the way our senses are experiencing it. So, for example, so we walk around with some illusions. Like, just as you're saying, that certain things are a certain way. We have to manage them that way, that in fact aren't reality-based. And so I used to...”
2017-02-21 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #223: Calming Philosophies for Chaotic Times -- Krista Tippett · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“It's also kind of my narrative, right? Is that I needed it needed to be active, I needed my body to be moving to calm my mind down. And I do a very kind of athletic kind of yoga. And I love that. I will say that very gradually, I have held it, I have held these spiritual technologies in high regard. I have continued to speak with teachers. I've continued to have these kind of one-off experiences. And I have very gradually developed a really modest practice where I spend 10 minutes every morning. And that's up from six last year. And that's why my tea steeps. So it even, I'm even like killing two birds with one stone. And it has calmed me down. I think I was ready to be calmed down. It will change you. I think whether it takes your edge off depends on How much in charge you are. Of like how you're moving through the world to begin with.”
2017-02-21 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #223: Calming Philosophies for Chaotic Times -- Krista Tippett · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Works for us, it gets to be personal. You know, we are different. And so what actually changed for me, I mean, I at some point decided that I just, again, even though I'd had these amazing experiences and utterly believe in it, I just When I started doing yoga, that I started to let this into my life. And what I told myself, and this is, I think, true, but it's also...”
2017-02-21 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #223: Calming Philosophies for Chaotic Times -- Krista Tippett · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Well, you know, honestly, I think I'm like them. I think that I I say, I've always got a lot done. I personally, even after I started to vicariously benefit greatly from the conversations with Buddhists and contemplatives, just couldn't do it myself, which is crazy because, you know, I was saying to somebody recently, you mean, meditating is in fact one of life's few instantaneously rewarding activities. I mean, I really, I mean, I have had across the years just these one-off experiences of putting myself in that place or being in a setting where I was put in that place. And it is transformative, even in some ways that stay with you. And yet I could not force myself to keep doing it every day. So I guess one thing I would say, I think this matter of spiritual practice and what spiritual practice”
2017-02-21 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #223: Calming Philosophies for Chaotic Times -- Krista Tippett · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, well, I mean, yeah, I mean, I do want to say one thing. I think also it's like Zen, I mean, you can be an incredible meditator and be very narcissistic, right? So first of all, it's not like any of these things magically change you or make you a better person. But putting that aside.”
2017-02-21 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #223: Calming Philosophies for Chaotic Times -- Krista Tippett · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Which are impulsive or which are so bounded by what we can see at the moment that are going to have terrible effects 20 years from now? I mean, I think the best example of this is like what we did with food in the latter half of the 20th century and how when I was growing up, you know, my mother being able to make dinner by opening a box and a can was progress. And in fact, you know, we have just systematically messed up our bodies, our agriculture, and our planet. And so I think we need to be really wary, especially, I mean, success is a good one. You're right, especially about these words that we kind of reflexively think are good. We need to question a lot of that. We need to be more thoughtful.”
2017-02-21 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #223: Calming Philosophies for Chaotic Times -- Krista Tippett · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“that are very meaningful. For the people who are using them, that have a lineage and have substance, but Elicit immediate defensive reactions are immediately polarizing to the extent that they are counterproductive. And I feel like there's a whole lot of that around race. And even words like peace and justice, I don't use words like that. Social, what is it? I like to, what is it? What is the talk about, you know, social healing? Rather than social activism. There are a lot of words we use that we act like have inherently positive connotations like innovation or progress. Right? I mean, there's a lot of things we do in the name of progress and innovation.”
2017-02-21 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #223: Calming Philosophies for Chaotic Times -- Krista Tippett · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Oh, you know, I actually think I work a lot with words like justice and privilege. We're just doing a show on whiteness. And it's like some of the things that we need to have big conversations about together. And I mean, actually just have to start. A big one, but we We've loaded down, you know, there are these words and these phrases that are attached to those conversations that just are conversation stoppers.”
2017-02-21 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #223: Calming Philosophies for Chaotic Times -- Krista Tippett · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“There's only ultimately one way to say, I love you, and those are some of the most incredible words and the most affecting words that any of us can ever hear at any moment. So, I think even though it's ruined, that might be my choice if I had to choose one.”
2017-02-21 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #223: Calming Philosophies for Chaotic Times -- Krista Tippett · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“A lot about this for the last couple of years that the word love is so watered down and kind of ruined. And yet it's just the only thing big enough if we can recapture it in all of its complexity for our life together. And again, if we can recapture it as something practical and not merely romantic, passionate. I think we need to keep the passion to it. And it is, you know, love is kind of an amazing word because even though it is completely ruined, and just yesterday I interviewed Alain de Boton about love and sex and marriage, this philosopher, and we talk the whole time, you know, the language of falling, right? It's used something you fall into and fall out of. And yet.”
2017-02-21 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #223: Calming Philosophies for Chaotic Times -- Krista Tippett · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“The word. Yeah, I mean, the word God is too small and it's too overused and misused. And, oh, I don't know. You know, honestly, I would probably say something that might sound cheesy because it's another overused word, but I think the word love is, I mean, you know, I've been writing and talking.”
2017-02-21 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #223: Calming Philosophies for Chaotic Times -- Krista Tippett · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I do, but it does it like I've never been happy with any of the translations of Rilke, any of the others out there. There's one translator of his letters to a young poem that I like, which is an older translator Herder Norton. But this poetry, it's a creative work, right? Like they have not tried to... Translate every word as it appears. They have done something creative and that veers away from the text. In a way that captures what it really does in another language.”
2017-02-21 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #223: Calming Philosophies for Chaotic Times -- Krista Tippett · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And a friend of hers who's also Buddhist, who's a psychotherapist named Anita Barrows. And I've interviewed both of them across the years. And I, Rilke's German, because I lived in Germany for seven years. For some bizarre reason, there's part of my brain that is in German. So I'm very fluent in German. And Rilkus German is exquisitely beautiful. It bears no relation to the kind of guttural German that is in all of our ears from movies. And it's almost like he has his own language. And Joanna and Anita have translated, have turned that into English. It's a book that I return to again and again, the poems in there.”
2017-02-21 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #223: Calming Philosophies for Chaotic Times -- Krista Tippett · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“It's kind of lines that you can carry around with you that are a reminder that each of us have so much power in any given day to make the day of a lot of people, right? And we feel there's so many things for us to feel powerless about, but that's huge. So I like it. And it is about kindness, but it's unromantic, right? It's nothing fluffy, touchy-feely about it. I guess the other thing I just recommend is a book. Rilke is probably the name, if there's one name of somebody else who's not alive that's come up more often in my show. I mean, most often it's probably Rilka. And there's a book, a translation of his book of ours, which is called Book of Hours, Love Letters to God. And it's translated by a”
2017-02-21 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #223: Calming Philosophies for Chaotic Times -- Krista Tippett · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah. So she has this poem called Kindness, which she wrote. After she was, she may have even been on her honeymoon. She was with her husband. I think they were in Columbia. Something happened. They were robbed. I mean, they had this really traumatizing experience so that she's in a different country, you know, sitting by the side of the road. Her husband takes off to find help. But she actually wrote this poem called Kindness about what happened after that experience. And it's a reminder. It's just beautiful. It tells a story, but it's also...”
2017-02-21 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #223: Calming Philosophies for Chaotic Times -- Krista Tippett · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Beautiful. It is beautiful. And another poem that I found really important this year, I interviewed a poet named Naomi Shihab Nai.”
2017-02-21 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #223: Calming Philosophies for Chaotic Times -- Krista Tippett · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Line in there that actually comes to me at interesting times, and it's not unrelated to some of the things you and I have been talking about, you know, let the soft animal of your body love what it loves. And sometimes that's such an important thing to be able to tell ourselves.”
2017-02-21 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #223: Calming Philosophies for Chaotic Times -- Krista Tippett · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Well, I have to say, I think that's a daunting question because I probably won't give the best answer. You know, I do interview so many poets these days, but I meet people who tell me that they discovered poetry through my show and that just thrills me. But, you know, honestly, I'm just like everybody else and that poetry has eluded my attention, you know, for a lot of my life. I love it. And yet it kind of hurts going in. I have to force myself to read it. So I think I'm fortunate to be in this position where, you know, if I get paid to like draw out, to go sit with Mary Oliver. And so got poetry. I would say I'm just so what comes to mind, these are just the three poems that come to mind right now. I mean, I do actually think Mary Oliver's poem, Wild Geese, is incredible. I think it's a poem that has saved lives.”
2017-02-21 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #223: Calming Philosophies for Chaotic Times -- Krista Tippett · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“For the children's books, but liked being read to at night, even just to fall asleep, like I would read New Yorker articles or pieces from this New York Times book review that were just educational and enjoyable. And I really liked that period when they allowed me to do that”
2017-02-21 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #223: Calming Philosophies for Chaotic Times -- Krista Tippett · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I don't know that I read I mean, I remember reading to my kids was just one of the, well, it was both beautiful and exhausting. I mean, I also remember the nights where they would say, read me another story. And I was, oh, please let me go to bed. But it's also true that those were such special moments. But, you know, I read Margaret Wise Brown. I mean, the kind of Good Night Moon in that genre. I mean, I am a huge library user. And so I took my kids to the library all the time and we would walk away with stacks and stacks of books, more than like buying books. And actually, I mean, I didn't have a lot of money to spend when they were really little. So we just, I would just say we read everything. What I also did is my kids got older, is that I would read when they were kind of a little bit too old for the...”
2017-02-21 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #223: Calming Philosophies for Chaotic Times -- Krista Tippett · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“That drives me crazy, and they're just a lot of lost opportunities for revelation. And I guess the other thing that drives me crazy is that when people are going for revelation, It's often in the form of making their questions sound tough. It's about how they sound and how they present. And, you know, we actually reward and laud interviewers who push their subjects into corners and embarrass them, who put people on the defensive and then they strike out. And then that creates the conversation we talk about. I think. I don't think that rarely accomplishes anything. Aside from something entertaining, something that demeans both of the people in the conversation and demeans us by enjoying it.”
2017-02-21 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #223: Calming Philosophies for Chaotic Times -- Krista Tippett · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“There is a craft to create a conversational space that is listenable and that goes somewhere and that will be affecting for the person who's being interviewed as well as the people listening. Anyway, so that's new. That's a new phenomenon. I mean, you know, even in public radio, which I love. The nature of the experience and of the way things work is that people who we hear as interviewers have been handed a list of questions by producers which they pose. And then they move on to the next question. And that's just not a conversation to me, right? The interview proceeds without any reference to what's just been said for the most part. So, it's something almost scripted, or it's scripted on their end. And, um,”
2017-02-21 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #223: Calming Philosophies for Chaotic Times -- Krista Tippett · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“There's a lot. Most of what I see, that's a big statement, much of what I see that calls a self-interviewing. At least let's say in news, I mean, there's so many interesting things happening. There's so many new platforms, right? And this is one of them. Although I'll say, you know, I'll say in podcasting what can happen because it is so easy. I mean, I had to actually start a public radio show, which was much harder than it should be. Right. It took years and it was like being hazed for years. And, you know, and I can't even believe it happened because it was so difficult. But that was the only way I could get this thing out there. And that's not true anymore. You can start your podcast. But the danger of that is not to understand that there's a craft, right? Not to put any rigor into it.”
2017-02-21 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #223: Calming Philosophies for Chaotic Times -- Krista Tippett · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, well, I guess it did manifest as a calm. I mean, you know, I was worried about it as tiredness, but it also, it took an edge of energy off, which in fact was helpful to letting the other person's energy be what drove the conversation I think it made me more porous, right? Because I wasn't able to gear up the way I thought I should. That in fact I was letting more in.”
2017-02-21 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #223: Calming Philosophies for Chaotic Times -- Krista Tippett · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I used to have this experience that I would do all these rituals, right? Like to have good energy. And at some point early on, I realized that sometimes when I went into the studio for an interview and I was tired for whatever reason, I hadn't been able to get to sleep, right? Or I hadn't been able to drink the right amount of caffeine. It was a better experience for me and for them. And that was one of the signals for me that when I even, you know, by force had to surrender, that that actually was part of what made it good.”
2017-02-21 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #223: Calming Philosophies for Chaotic Times -- Krista Tippett · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Oh, I. I suppose I learned at some point early on. That I was better when I could stop, that I was better when I was really planted In the fact that it wasn't about me, that I was, you know, that the point of the interview was drawing out this other person. And when I could get out of the way, and that doesn't mean, you know, like I'm an essential person in the interview, right? Like, you know, you and I are having conversation. I actually think your job right now is harder than my job because, you know, you are creating this narrative arc. You're hosting this experience, right? So I'm not belittling the role I had to play. I still had to ask those good questions. I still had to listen well. I had to be able to go with the conversation. But as clear as I could get about the fact that it was about them and not about me, I would be better.”
2017-02-21 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #223: Calming Philosophies for Chaotic Times -- Krista Tippett · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Say it's pretty ridiculous. Realizing it's ridiculous because that's not the way other people see it. But So, I think that clearly, you know, I do feel like I'm doing something I'm good at. Like, I know how to do this. I have a good set of skills and instincts that lend themselves to this. But I truly would say that how I've gotten better is doing it over and over and over again. And that is such a thrilling thing to get better at something over time.”
2017-02-21 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #223: Calming Philosophies for Chaotic Times -- Krista Tippett · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Know, and I never thought of myself as an interviewer until I kind of created this job. And I still consider myself to be kind of a newcomer and an interloper in the world of media, which I know is ridiculous at this point.”
2017-02-21 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #223: Calming Philosophies for Chaotic Times -- Krista Tippett · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I don't know that I've thought about that. Honestly, I feel like I've grown as an interviewer By doing it. And that sounds really simple. And it's very straightforward, and it's something we know more about through science now, right? But for me, it was been a departure. Like, I can't believe that I've been doing the same thing now for. Over twelve years. I mean, it's more like 15 years if you think about the early days when I was creating the show. I guess doing the same thing over and over again, but in this constant mode of learning. Um Think when I was younger, when I was in my 20s. Would have been really resistant to the idea of doing the same thing for a long period of time, right? That would have felt like stasis to me, like kind of. Not growing anymore, but I do think that this.”
2017-02-21 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #223: Calming Philosophies for Chaotic Times -- Krista Tippett · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I don't know. I kind of helped me walk out of that because that also wasn't the whole story and the damaged part wasn't, you know, it wasn't all of me. And it kind of helps you live into other places in yourself that you haven't been able to live into because you were so catering to that fear. Does that make sense?”
2017-02-21 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #223: Calming Philosophies for Chaotic Times -- Krista Tippett · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“You've had and you have to do that to get into a new place, but that moment where you've learned things about yourself that are hard and true and you get vulnerable for the first time and you have not yet started to create the foundation for this new way you will live. And that's, you know, I remember that moment in therapy as just despairing because I just where I just felt like I think I said this to my therapist I am damaged good, right? You know, that's never the way I had allowed myself to think about myself or certainly anybody else to think of me. But then”
2017-02-21 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #223: Calming Philosophies for Chaotic Times -- Krista Tippett · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“What it was really like to grow up in my body, in my house. And things that I had never said to myself, you know, being the answers. And it's just like unpeeling these layers. And then there's this terrible moment, which I'm sure everybody gets to kind of, I don't know how far it was six months or a year, where you Where you peel away enough layers that you're actually making progress, but you haven't”
2017-02-21 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #223: Calming Philosophies for Chaotic Times -- Krista Tippett · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I didn't do anything, you know, I didn't do anything fancy or exciting sounding like Jungian therapy. I had this, I was living in Minnesota at the time as I still am in. I had this just really good therapist who probably I would say family systems was where he was coming from but I'm not even sure I knew that language then and I would say and I think this was you know this was kind of part of my survival stuff for my childhood is I'm not somebody who ever talked to anybody about any of this I was one thing I've invested so much in and I think that that going through my depression and my therapy has opened up this whole part of my life in the last 20 years is investing in my friendships it's not that I didn't have friends I did but I didn't lean on people back then and I think I didn't I didn't think it was safe too so this was really the first time that I had just kind of told the truth you know I had somebody ask me questions about”
2017-02-21 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #223: Calming Philosophies for Chaotic Times -- Krista Tippett · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I just want to say that one of the favorite interviews I did across the years was a long time ago now, so you probably haven't seen it. It was with Jennifer Michael Hecht, who's a philosopher and a poet. And she wrote a book on doubt, which is just masterful. And she talks about the origins of Stoicism and cynicism and how they meant she talks about them as graceful life philosophies, right? We think of them almost as Stances against or neutral. But anyway, so I just want to say I don't think Stoicism is just neutral.”
2017-02-21 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #223: Calming Philosophies for Chaotic Times -- Krista Tippett · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, yeah. I just saw it. That's not me. I don't need that. And boy, did I need it. I mean, it's like, it's these classic things of learning. How I survived my childhood with a father who didn't mean to be cruel but was I kept ahead of his sarcasm I kept ahead of his teasing you know I could get positive approval when I blew him away right like only if I did something that was so smart or that he said so not thought of I would have these moments of it being okay and so and so that's what I did so I pushed myself really hard and I got through my childhood and I you know I went I went to amazing places on that same kind of energy but it was not a way to live and it was not a sustainable way to be human and at that point in my 30s you know if I hadn't found Way to um”
2017-02-21 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #223: Calming Philosophies for Chaotic Times -- Krista Tippett · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Oh, you know, it's this classic stuff. I again, it's interesting because I definitely was one of these people who... Wasn't sure that I thought I wasn't sure what I thought of anybody who went to therapy. And it was okay for Woody Allen to do it, right?”
2017-02-21 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #223: Calming Philosophies for Chaotic Times -- Krista Tippett · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“So much harder than I needed to be. And I was able to start living differently over a long, you know, over years. It's kind of a long answer, sorry.”
2017-02-21 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #223: Calming Philosophies for Chaotic Times -- Krista Tippett · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“To have a great therapist who I saw just once a week. It was hard. It was hard for me to afford that therapy at that time. In fact, a friend helped me afford the therapy. But for a few years, saw this person and I always say, I don't, I never want to romanticize something like depression. And in the moment that someone is depressed, the last thing I would want to insist, you know, or say is that this is good for you and you will learn from this and it's valuable. I do think that 10 or 20 years later, if we can walk through these things and survive them, I would absolutely say that the course of my life was changed for the better because of what I had to face, the truths I faced about the things that, you know, the ways I was wounded, right? The pain I was carrying around, the ways I had been so hard on myself.”
2017-02-21 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #223: Calming Philosophies for Chaotic Times -- Krista Tippett · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“In myself, I think I got ready for this. And that was really a depression where I stopped, I stopped being able to sleep at all and all the classic things lost 15 pounds for no reason. And eventually just, you know, went to bed and couldn't get out. What helped me was very fortunate to take”
2017-02-21 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #223: Calming Philosophies for Chaotic Times -- Krista Tippett · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I'd put myself through all this change. I was always very hard on myself, which, you know, got me a long way. But it's not, it was much too hard to be me. And I had, you know, I had had this career in Berlin, being a journalist and being a diplomat. And then I'd taken myself away to write a novel and then I'd gotten married and I'd lived in England and then gone to divinity school and then had a baby and moved to Minnesota. And honestly, I think this depression had been waiting a long time to happen. And as often is true of us in life, I think at the moment at which I was kind of settled enough to allow it to happen, it just took over. I had just started to see a therapist. Like I'd always thought of myself as somebody who had a happy childhood and would never see a therapist and didn't need that.”
2017-02-21 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #223: Calming Philosophies for Chaotic Times -- Krista Tippett · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I started this very faithful practice. I swam, right? Like, I mean, everywhere I was in the world for 25 years. And I was a few places in those years. I swam at least every other day. And looking back, I think that was a way that was a form of self-care. And so actually that summer before this major depression set in, I had stopped swimming. I was doing something else. I was rollerblading. But that was a little bit different. And so I changed that. But I think the big answer is that I had. You know, I was in my early 30s, I literally led a few lives at that point”
2017-02-21 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #223: Calming Philosophies for Chaotic Times -- Krista Tippett · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Which included how much sleep I needed every night. I look back and I think, well, that was very intelligent because those are the kinds of things that matter. But also, I think that I, well, I would say at this point, I know that I think I come by this honestly. I think my father was depressed, although that never showed on the surface. I also started at Brown, I had never really exercised as crazy because I'm not that old, but I grew up in the culture I grew up in, girls didn't do sports really. I mean, there were girls who did, but they were unusual. So never really used my body in that way, but I started.”
2017-02-21 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #223: Calming Philosophies for Chaotic Times -- Krista Tippett · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I think I probably had my first episode of True Depression when I was a sophomore in college. But nobody had that vocabulary back then. And it did not, I did, I used the language with myself that I'd fallen into a black hole. And the way it felt, and the way it still looks to me like now, I almost visualize it is that I clawed my way out of that black hole. And in fact, it was. It was a formative Experience that I merged with a lot of courage and a lot of determination. I mean, I kind of set a plan for my life.”
2017-02-21 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #223: Calming Philosophies for Chaotic Times -- Krista Tippett · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Wearing that on the surface and sometimes saying that and stepping back rather than giving into the fit that might be another way to work out our stress or our tiredness.”
2017-02-21 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #223: Calming Philosophies for Chaotic Times -- Krista Tippett · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I think one thing about having children kind of gets to what you're talking about is You see how children, um, you know, if you, and this, this is interesting because it's, you know, I've read your books across the years and, you know, if they haven't eaten enough or they're not eating the right things, if they haven't gotten enough sleep, you know, they get cranky. They're miserable and it's all out on the surface. And I mean, so much of, I think, our bad behavior or the behavior that we look back later and say, oh, I wish I hadn't done that. It's also about just these elemental things about being creatures and bodies and being tired and being hungry and not taking care of ourselves. Yeah, I mean, sometimes people, we're just, we are, a lot of us, we're tired, we're stressed out. But somehow as we go through life, we get less good at it.”
2017-02-21 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #223: Calming Philosophies for Chaotic Times -- Krista Tippett · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Well, you know, I have to say that I'm a redhead and I also am, well, you know, and I think I'm going to say this kind of proudly. I mean, I don't, I don't act out the way I used to, but people who've known me at other parts of my life would certainly say that I had a huge temper. And I do righteous indignation really well. I do it less often than I used to.”
2017-02-21 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #223: Calming Philosophies for Chaotic Times -- Krista Tippett · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Interested and open to knowing that there's something more complicated and perhaps something quite other deeper than what is showing itself on the surface. And I also think that's a quality of learning. You know, pushing for that deeper thing, that what's beneath the surface.”
2017-02-21 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #223: Calming Philosophies for Chaotic Times -- Krista Tippett · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I guess two things come to mind. One is good questions. And what I would also say about that is that I think You know, learning is a process. So So, even if it's something I'm spending an hour learning about, I'm going to expect that my questions are more refined at the end of that hour than they are at the beginning of that hour. So it's being able to formulate good questions going in. But then not just letting your answers or what your understanding be shaped, but letting your questions evolve, that your questions get better and better And then I guess the other thing about learning, I think, is it kind of gets back to where you and I started about. Seeing what looks like anger, we're seeing what is expressing itself as anger, but understanding that there's something very”
2017-02-21 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #223: Calming Philosophies for Chaotic Times -- Krista Tippett · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT