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Laura Haim
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“On climate change, but on the fight against terrorism, yes, it's important. And I really think you have to understand that about President Macron. You know he's young, he wants to do something, he wants to build up a new France, he wants to build up a new Europe, and I hope he's going to succeed.”
2017-12-18 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 202 - Laura Haim · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I was witnessing the first phone call between Donald Trump and Emmanuel Macron, and I can tell you that on serious issues they definitely going to work together. I mean, there's a big disagreement about the Paris Agreement.”
2017-12-18 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 202 - Laura Haim · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I was not in the room when it happened, but I can tell you, knowing Emmanuel Macron, that it was not at all prepared. I think it was like a moment in which Donald Trump took his arm there were a lot of photographers, and don't forget Emmanuel Macron is thirty nine years old. He's young, so sometimes you know yes, he's doing a handshake and he doesn't know how in which direction it's going to go and then the press is speaking about the handshake. But I really think that in a more serious way for Emmanuel Macron from the beginning, the relation between the United States and France is extremely important.”
2017-12-18 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 202 - Laura Haim · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“No, no, no, it was very good. I mean, when you speak about important issues, you know, it's like what's happening in the TV world. I mean, we had different laws in France. We have the principle of equality, like the last two weeks of the French presidential campaign, each candidate by law has the same amount of time on TV and on radio, which, as you know, didn't happen in the United States. But the French people and the French system are taking very seriously their responsibilities about democracy.”
2017-12-18 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 202 - Laura Haim · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, so Macron was aware during the campaign he was talking about that and he said we're going to do formation. So if you're losing your job at 40 or 45 years old, there will be a special program which will be put in which will be in place to teach you another job. But it's also in the mentalities. You have to make sure that you're not just doing a country for the startups. On the other way, a lot of people want France to change. So, you know, we”
2017-12-18 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 202 - Laura Haim · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“That is based on other people also. And you have another France, which is, you know, attached to other things. It doesn't mean good or bad. But for instance, when you are 55 years old, you maybe do not have the energy to create another company and to go back to the beginning or to move to another city. And this second France, he has to be careful with them. That's my feeling.”
2017-12-18 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 202 - Laura Haim · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, but I will say that it's a difficult country to change due to the fact now I'm outside and I have my freedom of speech. I will say that you have to be careful about two fronts Because you have a front which is ready to move on, which understands the globalization, which really want to create companies and which is extraordinary. This is basically.”
2017-12-18 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 202 - Laura Haim · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“So he's doing a lot of things which have never been done before. He has a very good image all over the world. He's trying to be a key player on the international scene. So that's the positive thing.”
2017-12-18 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 202 - Laura Haim · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Think it's going very Quickly, and that's part of his trance in my opinion and his ambition. He definitely wants to reform France in a unusual aspect. And I'm saying that Macron is now the new CEO of France. He really wants to change everything. He did a lot of things in less than six months. People, when he was elected, said in France, everybody is going to be in the street. The unions are going to demonstrate. It's going to be a new French revolution in the fall. It didn't happen. So he already did a lot of changes. He did a loop to moralize the political life. He did some executive orders about how the working system is operating in France when your company, how you can be more flexible, how you can fire more people, how you can hire more people.”
2017-12-18 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 202 - Laura Haim · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I have an American passport. So when you have an American passport and when you have a French passport, I think one day you have to choose which country you prefer.”
2017-12-18 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 202 - Laura Haim · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, and they always want to be critical and I also wanted to make sure that I was going to be accepted by the team. And I think at one point I did a campaign and for me it was time to go back to the UI.”
2017-12-18 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 202 - Laura Haim · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“You didn't want to do that. No, because I think that you have two times you have the company and you have the government aspect. And I was not sure, and I had this discussion with the president. I was not sure that I was going to be able to function inside the government”
2017-12-18 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 202 - Laura Haim · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“No, it was not cynicism. It was why did you do that? I mean that was the question You're a serious journalist, you have been through a lot you respected Why do you cross the line? Because it's not like in America when you cross the line in France you're crossing the line and I said because maybe I have been disappointed by the kind of journalists I wanted to do and that was my motivation I mean what do I want to do as a journalist? Do I want to do serious issues or do I want to do two minutes clip about a Hollywood star? And I think it was the time for me to switch, to do something still serious about a society and to see the other side I thought and I'm very American on that because I have this debate in France and I'm always saying I think in one life you can have multiple lives and I defend this idea.”
2017-12-18 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 202 - Laura Haim · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Oh my god, I became the starry of the week and even the months, and there were jokes on French radio saying we speak much more about Rod and we speak about Macron. So it was good for Macron because, I mean, the thing which was good for Macron was the ability to show that he was able to capture people from the civil society. There was me, there was a very, very strong economic advisor. His name is Jean-Pizaniferi, who was very reliable, very serious. And he came at the right time. And each day in January, Macron announced someone coming from the civil society joining Homarch. And you have to remember, it's not America, it's France, traditional parties. Yes, he created his own movement. So he created his movement and he was able to show, okay, at home we are able to have”
2017-12-18 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 202 - Laura Haim · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“It was really hard, it was not hard with the candidate, it was hard with the people around, because the people around are real politicians, and you're coming from the civil society, and you're bringing something from the civil society. I mean, yeah, you have interesting discussions.”
2017-12-18 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 202 - Laura Haim · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yes, I mean, in December it's the first time I saw them together. I thought it was a very strong couple and I still think it's a very strong couple. And then he asked me if I wanted to become part of the team and to join the adventure. And I said, I just have to move from.”
2017-12-18 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 202 - Laura Haim · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, but ambitious, in my opinion, is part of, you know, when you want to become president, you have to be ambitious. And I saw that he was young, he had a lot of energy. I was also interested a lot by his wife. It was, I mean, you know, there's been a lot of...”
2017-12-18 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 202 - Laura Haim · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, but even in the fight, they want to do it. And sometimes you can see that people want to do it for something else than their own egos. They really want to transform a society.”
2017-12-18 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 202 - Laura Haim · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I told him, listen, I think you're going to become president. And he said, what? I said, I really think you have a chance to become president of France because you're coming at the right moment. And I also saw a light in his eyes. And you probably saw that. But there always the politicians, the people who want to do that, they have what I'm calling a special gene.”
2017-12-18 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 202 - Laura Haim · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“a meeting which is called Port de Versailles meeting because suddenly Macron is on stage and he's screaming but really screaming I'm going to change things I'm going to be president I'm going to do things and he had passion and I said this guy he's going to be president I picked up the phone and I called his team and I said listen they told me you want an interview I said no I don't want an interview you know what happened in my news channel I just want to see how I can help you I have some experience in America do you think I can have an appointment with him just to speak about what he wants to do and then I had my appointment two days after and we spoke for thirty five minutes it was last year and yeah I met him in his office his wife was there”
2017-12-18 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 202 - Laura Haim · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Ward saying, we're going to die, but we're going to die by defending serious journalism. And I was doing the Trump campaign at the time. I was deeply affected by that. At the end of the Trump campaign, I had to film with my cell phone the Trump events. And of course, I was with my co-workers defending science journalism. So after the presidential campaign, after eight years in Washington, I wanted a pause. I came back to Paris. I wanted really a pose because, of course, against the big corporation which wanted to do writings on entertainment, we lost. So the news division was completely killed. And I said, that's it. I really have to think about what's happening. I went to Paris, you know, in the beginning of December, and I watch on my bed Macron on TV.”
2017-12-18 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 202 - Laura Haim · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“So then my channel at the end of the Donald Trump campaign was my news division was completely destroyed because a new CEO came and said we want to do entertainment. We do not want to do serious news anymore. And this is an important element because we fought. We went on strike, you know, the French people love to strike. And we decided to go to the streets and to...”
2017-12-18 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 202 - Laura Haim · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I think Maen Lupin, when she was running a campaign, well, it's very much inspired. Yes, Marin Le Pen in France, the leader of the National Front. She was extremely inspired by Trump. She wanted to be Trump woman. She did a campaign like Trump did. But, I mean, France is not the United States. So the populist message is very simple. It's a formula. You go on stage, you have a lot of personalities, you're saying, I'm not a traditional politician, you're playing a lot with the cameras and with the crowd. You make sure that in each event something unusual happened. You're doing a kind of political meeting like you're doing a kind of game. You don't develop precise ideas. You have two or three good formulas. You make people loath. And then that's it.”
2017-12-18 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 202 - Laura Haim · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“to the political life because I'm not talking about his ideas. I'm talking about the way he was doing a campaign. He understood something inside the American society that very few people understood, and it's the desire of the middle class. And he was exploiting that in a very clever way. And I think people are saying especially in France, he's stupid, he doesn't know what he does, this guy, and I always said he's not stupid. He knows exactly how to do a good campaign. So I was quite known for that.”
2017-12-18 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 202 - Laura Haim · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“No, but I went, I can tell you the story that I never said before, but in the summer of 2015, I was invited in the Hamptons and someone, a very famous person. I can give his name, the founder of Doctors Without Borders, Bernard Kushner, asked me, who do you think is going to be president? I said, Trump has a big chance, and we had a terrible fight. Like screaming, he was screaming at me. You're crazy, you live too long. And then I had a fight with my editors because I wanted the budget to cover Trump. I wanted to do a book about Trump. And the publisher declined saying, you're crazy. You have been for too long in America. I remember the quote. And then finally, the Canal Plus people said, okay, we're going to give her budget. And I cover Trump for one year. I felt that he was coming to the United States.”
2017-12-18 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 202 - Laura Haim · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Trump otherwise what? And I did not know really well Trump, you know. I was covering Barack Obama, I watched TV, I saw this guy saying you're fired, I saw him as a TV personality. And then I really began to be interested by him. I followed his activities in New York as a businessman. And in April 2015 on French TV, I was questioned and I said Donald Trump might become president of the United States. And I had a lot of fights with very powerful.”
2017-12-18 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 202 - Laura Haim · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I followed Barack Obama. I'm going to be quite precise with you because I'm not sure even yourself, you know the full story. So I.”
2017-12-18 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 202 - Laura Haim · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And I always come back to the notion of education and to the notion of what is our responsibility when we're explaining something to people. Can we explain in a better way what's happening in the world? What are the important problems and can we really do this type of deep work?”
2017-12-18 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 202 - Laura Haim · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Exactly. And that's unfortunately I have to say, failure. I mean, people are afraid. And when they're afraid, they go to the people who are saying what they want to hear. They're going to what people, the populists know really well how to do that, the exploitation of the fear factor, the exploitation of, look, he's coming to your country, he's going to be bad, he's going to do bad things, he's going to blow himself up. He's going to take your job. And when you're looking at this moment in Europe, at the populist movement, not only in Germany with the far right, but also for instance in Poland last week in Poland, there was a demonstration with more than sixty thousand people for the white Poland. It's happening all over and this is very, very scary because Europe has to be extremely strong together. United to fight that”
2017-12-18 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 202 - Laura Haim · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“It has a huge impact because it's in our daily life. There's now each week, unfortunately, an attack. When you speak to the French people about that, they're not telling you, oh my God, it's over. We had the Bataclan. Everybody is prepared for when it's going to happen again. What's next? And we learn to live with that. And it has a big impact also on the debates inside the French political life because you can play a lot with terrorism, you can play a lot with the fear of people. And this is quite dangerous. And politicians, in my opinion, have to be extremely careful when they exploiting the fear factor.”
2017-12-18 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 202 - Laura Haim · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, Charlie Hebdo and on the Bataclan. Yes, because my friends were there, you know, I worked with a lot of young people and my brother lived in this neighborhood and the Bataclan was a I don't like to do the comparison, but it was the 9-11 of France, and it was a very tragic event. And, you know, for instance, it happened on November 13. It was two years ago. And a few days ago, President Macron went on the site and all the French people were extremely moved. And me, I was extremely moved, but nobody was talking about that in the United States, that the Bataclan attacks happened three years ago.”
2017-12-18 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 202 - Laura Haim · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“No, I was in the US, but I follow that very closely because I was always and I'm still interested by the radicalization. I mean, I think our daily life, but has forever changed.”
2017-12-18 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 202 - Laura Haim · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And his decisions. Yes, absolutely. This is a big question for the French people. What happened with him and his decision regarding Syria? Because then it has a direct effect.”
2017-12-18 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 202 - Laura Haim · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Depressed worried what's happening Are you still the first power in the world? What's going to happen with Donald Trump? If you go to France and if you have a discussion with French people, they're going to ask you two questions. They're going to ask you, what's happening with Trump? Is he crazy? Is he going to be impeached? And then when you speak about Obama, they're going also to ask you a question about President Obama, which is what happened in Syria.”
2017-12-18 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 202 - Laura Haim · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I will say that the rest of the world is speaking about America when America doesn't speak at all about the rest of the world. So when there's a presidential campaign happening in France, people are following that closely each night, each morning in the news you have at least one or two reports about the contenders, people at this time new John McKen, the new Barack Obama, the new you. I mean, they're really interested by American politics because they think that America is still a big country in the world and that they have to pay attention to what's happening in this democracy.”
2017-12-18 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 202 - Laura Haim · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“He was very inspirational, and he still is. There was recently a poll in France that if Obama wants to be president of France, people are voting for him at eighty percent. So, I mean, he is a huge, I mean, he's extremely popular in France. And it was not only the campaign, it was the energy, it was the civil society that you saw there after reports, a country which is switching and a country which is pushing for someone new. That was really important. And it still is. I mean, people have vivid memories on the 2007 campaign and the 2008 election.”
2017-12-18 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 202 - Laura Haim · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Ah, my God, it was there were fascinated by him, and I really wanted to follow him, they wanted him to be the American president. Because he was the symbol of hope and a new face. And I mean, there was, and the fact that he was African American was also a big thing for the French. Look what's happening in America. It's possible for someone like him”
2017-12-18 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 202 - Laura Haim · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I think you told me, oh, if the French are there, maybe we have a chance. And then I was part of the beginning of an extraordinary campaign.”
2017-12-18 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 202 - Laura Haim · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“That back then. Yeah. And I said Barack Obama because I was following the Democratic Convention in 2004 and I thought his speech was quite eloquent. And I don't know. I wanted to do someone else than follow someone else than Hillary Clinton. So I went to Harlem, I remember. It was in October 2007. And I wanted to see Barack Obama in Arlem and there were thousands of people outside who wanted to come and there was an energy, there was something and I said I want to see what's happening with this person. So I jumped there, I went to Iowa, you met me there.”
2017-12-18 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 202 - Laura Haim · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Of health, the horrible sweater. I remember you were behind the scene in Des Moines and I saw you. So I came back to New York in 2006. I didn't want to do wars anymore. I was really tired. I wanted a pose and I said maybe I'm going to work on a political campaign. So everybody in France, I went back to France because Dan Rader was fired in 2006 and I was part of the package. So I went back to the French and they asked me do you want to follow Hillary Clinton? And they said, I'm interested by following someone who is an outsider. And they said who and I said Barack Obama and I remember on the phone my editor telling me Barak Woo and I said”
2017-12-18 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 202 - Laura Haim · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“and the level of trust was over from before the discussion began. I mean, everything was wrong with this sentence. It was something that you don't do in the Middle East, you know, the importance of having a coffee, the importance of sitting down. So I witnessed a lot of things happening like that. There were more and more troops acting this way. They did not know what to do. There were also political decisions which were made by Paul Brenner at this time. And it was completely over in less than six months. So the aftermath was not thought. Definitely”
2017-12-18 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 202 - Laura Haim · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Always like to tell again stories about ordinary people, and there's a story which happened in Fallujah that I witnessed in the july two thousand three in Fallujah there were the American troops were there and the Iraqis wanted to talk to them and they were doing a big lunch, you know, the Arabic lunch and I remembered that the tribal leaders it took them one week to prepare what they called the Mishui and they wanted the Americans to have a good mishui and when the American troops arrived someone it was probably in the first minute of the discussion he said can I have a coca color?”
2017-12-18 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 202 - Laura Haim · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, I cannot agree more. It was really the aftermath because when the Americans arrived in Baghdad, the Iraqis, and I was with the Iraqis at this time, they didn't know what to expect. And they were, okay, let's maybe it's going to work. Saddam was not good for us and let's see what's happening and I'm”
2017-12-18 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 202 - Laura Haim · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“So we were doing rotations six weeks, three weeks, six weeks in Baghdad, three weeks back in the United States or wherever you wanted to. And it was an extraordinary team. It was a collective. group under there was Dan Radder there was another woman called Kimberly Doje Elizabeth Palmer there were extraordinary executive producers Peter Bluff Jim Murphy I mean there were good people and we really wanted to show something so I did that you”
2017-12-18 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 202 - Laura Haim · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, I mean, at the end, I wish I could have his name. The guy came and he said, you know, we're closing the Iraqi embassy in Jordan. You do the last one. And I see you in the past two days and two nights. Okay, I'm going to give you your visa. So I got the visa and I went to Baghdad. I worked for CBS there and my assignment was as a producer to help them, as a video journalist to document what was happening to the life of the Iraqi people.”
2017-12-18 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 202 - Laura Haim · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“The Middle East was going to explode and the fact that I had a French passport was in my opinion a big plus for them because I was able to go to see again what I'm calling the other side. So they hired me and they asked me if I wanted to go to the Middle East. I went back together at the beginning of the war and then really nothing happened. I desperately wanted to go to Iraq. So I based myself in Jordan for two months. And I can tell you that it was really hard for me to get a visa. I sit down in the Jordan embassy for two days and tonight waiting for the visa.”
2017-12-18 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 202 - Laura Haim · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Can help you, yeah, and I took a sabbatical from Canel Plus and it was time for me to do something. Feel that that was time. I need to be with new people to learn something. I always want to learn new things. And I mean done rather. That was a big person and he still is in the journalistic world, you know. And CBS News at the time was a big name. And I said, okay, I really want to try to do that. So I also had a French passport.”
2017-12-18 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 202 - Laura Haim · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, exactly. I said we with my Texas accent. So three weeks after, that's also the beauty of America. People recognize sometimes... That they need you, and it goes quickly. So I went to New York, I was hired by rather, I had a freelance contract for CBS and it was.”
2017-12-18 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 202 - Laura Haim · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, and then Rather told me you have to come to New York. I said, I live in New York. He said, watch with your French accent. You live in New York. He said, I want you to work with me and do breaking news with me.”
2017-12-18 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 202 - Laura Haim · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, I was so nine eleven happened I became more and more a video journalist, like a photojournalist. I documented the downfall of Enron, which also had an impact on me because I saw how you can be laid off in America in less than one hour when a corporation is going down. And then I decided to do this type of work with my small camera. And then I went back to Israel for French TV. And the bus exploded in front of me. And I had a camera with me. Danwader was across the street and he was taking a coffee. He didn't have a camera. And he came to me said you have a camera, can you film for me? And I feel in the way that I knew how to film for French TV, this kind of cinema verity way. So Dan Rader was moving around the situation. They really liked my things. It met the opposite.”
2017-12-18 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 202 - Laura Haim · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source