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Laura Pidcock

lines on the record: 55
first: 2019-10-31
most recent: 2019-10-31
sittings or episodes: 1
sources: podcast

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“Well, my point was it wasn't supposed to be a really clever point. I just don't think the commentary I understand the Labour Party”
2019-10-31 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Laura Pidcock One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Okay, you don't understand is because you don't understand that it was a 30-year journey to deliver Jeremy Corbyn or more, actually. And what he is, you know, if you imagine Jeremy Corbyn just standing alongside 500,000 people, it's not like he's just this orchestrated and carved out like ruthlessly and got himself to that top position. He was put there by a movement and that's what people don't get and that movement are prepared to defend Jeremy because of his politics because he has stood alongside working people, all of his life and never voted against their interests.”
2019-10-31 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Laura Pidcock One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, while there's been a huge change in the Labour Party since Jeremy Corbyn's been leader, and I think what a lot of the commentators don't get, is that all right to call you that? I don't know if that's offensive. It's offensive, but you are.”
2019-10-31 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Laura Pidcock One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“What do you say to these people? Well, I think I would say, so there's two things. There's what the Conservatives represent and have always represented and what they offer and then what the Labour Party represents under the new excellent management team is a new way of politics. I actually don't want”
2019-10-31 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Laura Pidcock One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“No, no, of course it's not like working class people are a diverse group of people. So to return to your original point, it's not a divine right for us to carry those people with us. This is the battle of ideas and that's why I am so up for this because we're now in a position where I can talk to you about loads of things that I believe in and people have to make a judgment whether they believe us or not and as a collective body of people selling our vision to the nation they'll have to say is it in my interest to work for the Labour Party and I think they'll say when they see the two sets of manifestos put alongside each other and the people carrying those messages there'll be a very stark choice”
2019-10-31 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Laura Pidcock One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Or we could describe it in another way. So Jeremy Corbyn has got the most diverse shadow cabinet that there ever has been of a Labour leader that's established that. You've got me, Rebecca Long Bailey, Angela Reyna Strong Working Class Northern Women at the front and centre of things. And it's a bit kind of thatcherite politics to think that a London working class person can't have an affinity with somebody from concert. Of course they can because and that's what I mean about class politics. It's not just to be like, oh, you know, like...”
2019-10-31 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Laura Pidcock One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I hear what you're saying when I was standing to be the Member of Parliament for Northwest Durham in 2017. I remember vividly like being out on the streets in a local paper ringing and saying you're going to lose this election and that'll be the first one since ever to lose that seat or whatever. And there's going to be a few things that happen Nick. People are going to tell us that we're not going to do well. People are going to fearmonger about the polls. They're going to say that we're losing and hemogrant working class people. And I am mentally disciplined to ignore all of that. However, we should never be arrogant. We should never think it's our divine right as a party that was established for working people to always carry working people with us. I recognize the new Labour era lost a lot of work and people and working class people's votes and actually”
2019-10-31 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Laura Pidcock One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“When people used to say it to me, Oh, like, you'll never know tiredness, like being a parent, I'd be like, well, I am actually tired. Now I totally agree with them. Like, just getting dressed and being present is an achievement. The Northeast says you've been.”
2019-10-31 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Laura Pidcock One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Exactly. And I do, yeah, exactly. There comes a point where you have to decide where their life is based and I want it to be in the northeast for all sorts of reasons. But yeah, it's not a small matter. Like women do this every day. And you know what? When you enter a new social group, like being a mother, like you get a new community, like online and offline, you can't believe that you didn't know the struggles these people were going through like every day. I was a manager of loads of women in my last job and then I can't believe I didn't bow down to them every day for just being able to get into the bloody workplace. To be honest.”
2019-10-31 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Laura Pidcock One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, so I actually just like bring my child up and down with me so I'm not separated from my child, which is like possible.”
2019-10-31 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Laura Pidcock One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Control what happens to you, but you can. How you react to it, and like I have wanted to connect hard work, I mean, the very capitalist thing and actually. But your surroundings affect your consciousness, don't you? I've wanted to connect hard work with achieving things and getting there. But actually, most things are outside of our control. And what that does is, and what it's done for me is really appreciate every day. It sounds like such a cliche, but you have to and not worry about all of the things that are outside of your control.”
2019-10-31 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Laura Pidcock One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“You all of a sudden recognize the fragility of life that actually while we pretend and put lots of mechanisms in place to have control of things, most things are outside of our control”
2019-10-31 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Laura Pidcock One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Exactly, exactly, and I feel like I've aged about 20 years into. I physically feel older. Never mind mentally. And there isn't any point. I know you had like a healthcare Nick and it presents you with a new reality, doesn't it? One that you don't ask for, actually. When my father died, it changed, actually, overnight within an instant, the way I saw the world. just completely changed it and it wasn't a new reality that I wanted.”
2019-10-31 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Laura Pidcock One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Do you know what? You don't get to choose the circumstances that you're given in life, do you? I often to be really frank with you. The last two and a half years major events have happened in my life, not least becoming a member of parliament and the utter privilege that that is to represent Northwest Durham and the people that I love to live alongside and represent. I had a baby. My father died. I've moved house.”
2019-10-31 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Laura Pidcock One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“It's about time. I've been waiting for people to call me Minotaur on my joking. Honestly, I am joking about that. But I am very ready. And I think I'm ready because I have been working on this for a long time, not least as my experiences of actually being one of those workers, but also thinking and working with some of the leading experts in the field on what are the actual solutions to this.”
2019-10-31 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Laura Pidcock One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“No, there is still going to be flexibility. What we're asking is what people work is reflected in a contract, that there is secure. That's it. It's not like, oh, you cannot work two hours for a company. The end, like the Labour Party's banning it. It's just actually what you do should be reflected and then enshrined with some security.”
2019-10-31 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Laura Pidcock One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I'll give you one example, right? I was knocking on doors the other week. It's like what politicians say, isn't it? But I actually was. And met this woman. She showed me her rotor and she was scheduled on from 7 in the morning until 11 at night. She was a care worker, a very precarious sector, the same as fast food workers. And, you know, so seven in the morning to 11 at night, she couldn't take up any other employment in that time. She was not paid for all of those hours. So essentially she was working for under the minimum wage. Now that's what this department is speaking to. It isn't appropriate to have somebody not paid for the hours that they work. Therefore, pulling, dragging down their minimum hourly rate, that's just not fine. She's not deliberately asking you.”
2019-10-31 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Laura Pidcock One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“It's so interesting the way you kind of set that question up, isn't it? Because it paints actually what is not the typical case of a zero, except it's not a contract, yeah, so like, so I think the setup to explain in these policies is very important.”
2019-10-31 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Laura Pidcock One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“That's the girl who told me to. I can't remember. Maybe I was a bit like Fias Bach. I can't remember. I just remember it being hard. Anyway, the...”
2019-10-31 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Laura Pidcock One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“But obviously, like, I wasn't, you know, you become conscious at different stages of your life, don't you, Nick? And my feminism hadn't fully kicked in then. So I think I was just like...”
2019-10-31 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Laura Pidcock One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“No, he's got a lot of people, but no, like Oh, yeah. I mean, the amount of sexual harassment that retail and catering workers get is unbelievable. The Baker's Union talk about that quite a lot.”
2019-10-31 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Laura Pidcock One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I did. To be honest, I think this is a really hard bit at McDonald's. I did the drive through and I don't know whether it's like the distance. Like sometimes people think they can be a bit rude. It was like a really difficult and really difficult job. So I was drive-through. And sometimes... Oh, just like the total sexism. Like, I won't repeat some of the language, but it would be like, oh, I'll have a big mag and chips and a whatever on the side. Do you know what I mean? Oh, yeah, like that was common. I thought”
2019-10-31 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Laura Pidcock One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, so it's going to be called the Ministry of Employment Rights. And this is a dedicated department for working people, if you like. And it's quite staggering that in 2019 working people don't have that kind of seat around the cabinet table. It's a dedicated department to recognise a few things that we need a planned and organized economy, that there are definite skill shortages, that there are talents that are not being harnessed within this system, but also to recognize that for most working people, the system is broken and there needs to be a dedicated department looking at how we fix that.”
2019-10-31 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Laura Pidcock One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Okay, if you want to talk about conditionality. Conditionality, fine. What I'm talking about and what is widely recognized by advice and support agencies is a hostility that is now rooted within the DWP.”
2019-10-31 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Laura Pidcock One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Came up with the idea that it would be appropriate to sanction people because they're late to a DWP appointment. That is political ideology. I remember Tony Binistery Nick. Is it not? Is it not?”
2019-10-31 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Laura Pidcock One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“But I think what you're talking about there is like an end point. So the consequences of believing that it's okay for the market to enter, that institution, the end point of that is, of course, you have like a really diverse service. Macmillan nurses are like angels to people receiving cancer treatment. Am I ever going to demonize them? Absolutely not. They are a valued and essential part of our current system. What I'm saying is there is a starting point, isn't that when you set up an institution? And in my mind, I don't believe it appropriate that the private market is involved in the NHS practically work on that in government. Well, it takes a long time for cultural change, but don't pretend. And this is what frustrates me. Don't pretend it wasn't a very confident ideology that introduced the market to the NHS or, you know,”
2019-10-31 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Laura Pidcock One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“So it's like this move towards consensus politics. And I hear it sometimes echoed in the people that I represent. Why don't you just all get together and sort this out? And what I try and do is tease out the inherent conflict in the political ideology that we represent because I just think it's so fraudulent to say that you can get together and sort out, say, for example, the crisis in the NHS, which is born of political ideology, in my mind, about huge parts of it being privatised. There isn't a common position on that. You either think it's palatable to privatise parts of the NHS, or you don't. Let's get to the root core of the politics there. You either think it's palatable to make profit from pain or you don't. You know, let's be honest about that. That the market can enter everywhere. Or not”
2019-10-31 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Laura Pidcock One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Do you mean I mean, enemies, how do you quantify endemic fear and worry? Like, why aren't we talking about that? This is not a calm and peaceful, a loving system, is it? And when I talk about ideological enemy, Nick, I'm not an aggressive, awful person that walks down the corridors of Westminster and says, bugger off. I don't know if I'm allowed. I'll say that bugger off. Don't even look at me like you're a Tory. I say hello. I'm nice. I'm pleasant. I've asked people to do joint work on, you know, Madam's Lee detention centre and the abuse that happened there. I was involved in trying to get people signing DMs and stuff like that from Yeah, yeah, from different parties. But the point is, what are we doing in Westminster if it is not a battle of ideas? Okay. And there are people... In that chamber who and this is the question”
2019-10-31 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Laura Pidcock One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Scared of the state, scared that they're going to get fined, worried about the bank, worried about the landlord, worried about not being able to pay their mortgage, their rent. There is an undercurrent and sometimes, you know, a very visible and perceivable fear amongst lots of working class people.”
2019-10-31 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Laura Pidcock One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“So, what I think people forget is this is a violent system for lots of people. It's a system that has people scared a lot of the time. And I'm not talking about one or two people that I know in my community. I'm talking about lots of people that I currently represent are scared.”
2019-10-31 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Laura Pidcock One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“There is an ideology behind that. Do you hear what I'm saying? And I'm here and I am sent by people who elected me to do that to oppose that ideology.”
2019-10-31 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Laura Pidcock One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Obviously, in front of me, and you're very human. I'm so human. I got toothpaste on my top this morning when I was brushing my teeth, and I couldn't get it off until I came here, you know. We can't see, we've looked. You can't see. The point is, right, I'm not in politics to be a celebrity or to, you know, try and get loads of followers on Twitter, on Facebook, or stand up and make cheap shots. I want political change. And there are a set of beliefs. And this is what I think happened in politics actually. This is like a really pivotal point, is that people are obsessed with the personalities. Like, come on, Lauren that actually you don't really mind having a pint with Ian Duncan Smith, who has sanctioned loads of disabled people because of his ideology.”
2019-10-31 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Laura Pidcock One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“So it was about Tory MPs. So the slippage has been that people think I talk about people that vote Tory or somebody that might feel an affinity with like Tory ideology or Tory policy. I'm talking about the policy makers here, the people who are deeply committed in the same way I am deeply committed to my socialism, the people who have the power actually to implement and have implemented a decade of austerity. I'm talking about those people.”
2019-10-31 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Laura Pidcock One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“You better get it right. Oh, I'm looking for it, Azy. I lost my place for it. I'm going to pause and I'm going to get you the exam.”
2019-10-31 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Laura Pidcock One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Isn't society really divided anywhere? I'm trying to unite a group of people actually in understanding what are our common conditions.”
2019-10-31 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Laura Pidcock One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And why not? Because they've had access to very brilliant education and that raises consciousness. And when your consciousness has raised, you learn about how unequal and how stacked against working people the system is.”
2019-10-31 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Laura Pidcock One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I suppose it's about working class, is he? Who are you fighting for? Ah, but that's different. That's just an idea. Upon which class are you fighting for? Because I'm not saying that it's only people who are in the poorest of conditions that ought to join this movement. Oh, no, I know you're not. Of course not. Why not? I'm throughout the era, in fact.”
2019-10-31 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Laura Pidcock One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“But I think this is interesting, isn't it? Because I think Thatcher was a radical, wasn't she? And I suppose trying to beat that radicalism with an opposing force that actually it isn't shameful to talk about class. I've tried to talk about class in a way that is as accessible as possible. I'm not talking about it in complicated terms. I'm talking about if you have to work for a living and you don't have wealth or assets to fall back on and you cannot accumulate wealth because of that work that you do, what are you if you are not working class?”
2019-10-31 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Laura Pidcock One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I suppose some of those traditional sentiments about who you might vote for might have broken down, but it determines your position in society, doesn't it? And it determines your experience on this planet. If we think about how poor people are in work now, but then might vote Tory, that might be one thing, but I want to understand why people in work are poor and change in that material situation.”
2019-10-31 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Laura Pidcock One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, no, but what I mean is what I mean is conversations that I have are very often, or like as I had as a child, were about discussing what's going on and how do we overcome this and fundamentally for socialists it's about collectivising issues because I think a kind of conservative ideology is about individualism and looking at things through the framework of like the individual. I've always felt part of a movement. I actually feel part of a global movement. I watched a documentary about Syrian was just absolutely blown away by the heroic actions of people in much more dangerous situations than anyone I've ever faced but their resistance something on the”
2019-10-31 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Laura Pidcock One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I think that it means many things to me. I feel like I belong to a family, some people that I've never met, do you know what I mean? But there's like this political affinity because you just know what's being done at your people, if you like. to really ground it in a practical example is that when you go to a demonstration or you go to a political meeting and you're discussing or organising you actually might never have talked to that person about who their mom or dad is or whether they've got children you might not know those things but you know that you have a common cause and that feels very different to like the westminster like practical implementation of policy and like what i have been learning and like i have found this a very enjoyable process is how to convert that ideology into actually what would you do in government for the”
2019-10-31 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Laura Pidcock One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“So sometimes when I'm talking to you or other people or even opposing Tories in the chamber, it's a feeling. It's not learnt memory. It's like when people talk about working class people or talk about the social security system or talk about in-work poverty, I feel grief sometimes pain, anger because I'm part of that community and it's not an academic exercise my politics. I am part of a movement and the privilege to be in Westminster as part of that movement can't be underestimated.”
2019-10-31 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Laura Pidcock One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Exactly. I think I remember that. I definitely feel like I was around in the Thatcher era because my parents and family and, you know, like my region is scarred by her era. And that's not something that you just think or learn. You feel it, Nick. Do you know what I'm saying?”
2019-10-31 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Laura Pidcock One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And your parents took We were very political. Do you remember? I mean, I don't know when this happens, when you think it's a memory, but you don't know whether the stories have created the memory. So I definitely think that I remember protests against John Major. We could do...”
2019-10-31 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Laura Pidcock One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Oh my God. That's not entirely what I enjoy. But I think that the point I'm trying to make is there are different places where you exert politics.”
2019-10-31 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Laura Pidcock One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I'll definitely talk about it. We can't ignore that it's not that it's there and that it's an issue. But don't worry, we're not going to do it now. There's no way, Nick, that I'm going to spend like six weeks talking about that because it just doesn't reflect what people our represent care about.”
2019-10-31 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Laura Pidcock One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, you know, I'm not going to use the whole of the general election to only talk about Brexit. I'm very, very serious about that.”
2019-10-31 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Laura Pidcock One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I think if you are an activist MP there is undoubtedly going to be things that you get involved in that aren't your comfort zone so like I'm comfortable on the streets with a megaphone and like you know and and also talking with the people that I represent about their experiences and how I think things could be different that's what I love I do get homesick in Westminster there is no doubt about it and there has been testing times throughout the Brexit process because it hasn't been my primary motivation to be involved in politics is the question of the EU in fact you said didn't you tweet it”
2019-10-31 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Laura Pidcock One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“A bit of that because I think explaining what is happening is very powerful. But not only that about how historically how the system has not worked in working people's favour essentially”
2019-10-31 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Laura Pidcock One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Did they ever say it to you? Because there's always a danger, isn't there? Of course. When you work in the places you've Well, I purposely try and not talk their language, you know, the kind of establishment language, if you like, because what is the point? Like my only aim, you know, I have personal ambitions about why I'm in politics and then kind of practical things that I would like to achieve.”
2019-10-31 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Laura Pidcock One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source