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Laurene Powell Jobs
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“I think the chances are better now than they were a year ago. I think that they're, you know, sometimes you need to get hit across the head with a frying pan and then you realize, oh, I need to change. So I think there's going to be some forcing of changing, and I think maybe those who come behind them will learn from their mistakes and not slip into the bubbles.”
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“I think Brian Stevenson, who's such a brilliant and beautiful human being, talks a lot about proximity, and I believe that. I think it's not my nature to want to live in a bubble, but it's actually a very easy thing to do. And I think that's actually one of the many detriments of excess wealth is it allows you to live in a bubble. And so I don't think you can actually change unless you have proximity. And so you have to, if you're in a bubble, you have to pop it and you have to walk out of it and you have to make yourself uncomfortable and you actually need to be open to learning and changing. And most people are not.”
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“And I was so offended and outraged on their behalf that I ended up selling the for-profit company I was running and just started this organization to see if I could be helpful and if I could be of use. And it's everything I've learned and everything that we ended up creating was and is informed by the students and families of college track.”
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“I went to speak to a senior class in a local high school here in California. It was the first time I had been in a California high school because I didn't grow up here. And I was shocked truly at the lack of access to information about college and anything after high school. And this was to a class of students who are self-selected into this class because they wanted to go to college and not a single one of them had taken the SATs and they were already seniors. And then I just got so outraged in one class visit where I was, it was supposed to be just telling them about what it's like to be an entrepreneur. I decided that I would come back every week and I would be their college counselor because they had never seen one before. And of the 35 students, 33 had not taken the courses they needed to take to even apply to a college.”
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“Oh, well, college track is an organization that I started over 20 years ago, and it was actually the first time that I was in the social sector. It was the first time that I knew anything about the role of nonprofits in civil society and building bridges and being agents for change in that way. And I also learned a lot about what it's like to go and ask people for money. We're public charity, and so you need a multiplicity of funding sources. And I understood so many things about how to be a good philanthropist by being the executive director of a nonprofit. And this organization, which is still going strong and serving over 3,000 students this year, we were built because”
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“I mean, I think we're all hands on deck. We have to have new leadership at this country. I mean, there's actually so much destruction that has happened that needs to be repaired. There's been decimation across agencies, I think. The problems are far more profound than any of us. Even everybody who's paying attention really are grasping. So we need someone who can both fix and rebuild and leapfrog us forward.”
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“And I thought the things I will do. What did you say then? God, I'm so glad I wasn't there because I'd be like, you're fucking kidding me. That's why you should always go everywhere. You know what? I should have been a billionaire. I really should have. It would have been so good. I could have been. I was there. I could have been. Is that right? Yes, it was. Yes. I was offered a job at Google when they had like six people. Same thing at Amazon. I said, why would I want to do that? I'm a reporter.”
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“That was actually with President Trump. Well, as you can see, he repealed DACA, which is what we met about, so it didn't work very well.”
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“You know, I think of it as sort of all these hours in the quiver. So we use philanthropy, we use policy. So we have great policy people in DC. We use arts. We use investing in companies. We actually do convenings. And I like to do for myself. I really like to do sort of under the radar more skunk works type stuff.”
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“That was JR's installation. And yes, we worked with him to install that. And that photo of the baby on the border was seen over a billion times. So that's sort of the really beautiful power of art meets social media.”
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“Art and activism, you also had large pictures, you had a photographer that took giant pictures and you put them outside of Mitch McConnell's office. Yeah. Like you put giant photographs of immigrants all over the place. And then you were... Let me just tell you, I love when a woman gets a lot of money. You're using it for these things. So you took pictures. You also did one on the board or you had a baby looking for it.”
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“We deconstructed some walls and then we wanted people to see what they're talking about. These are 20 foot tall things. And anyway. The experience was visited by over 9,000 people in D.C. over period of seven months. A lot of elected officials and their staffs and a lot of journalists. And I think it was tremendous. We're now looking for other cities to bring it to. We're trying to retool the experience so that it can, we can have more people, so it can be more portable and we can have more people go through.”
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“Yeah, there it is. So we renovated this old church was set to be demolished. And so we worked with the city and they held off the demolition for a year. And then we used these pieces of corrugated metal that were picked up from the border. And so people had to walk through it.”
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“Experiences that once you have had it, it never will leave you. I don't know if you felt that way when you went through it. It's like one of those epiphanies where the veil drops and you now see and you can never unsee it. And we thought it was so important that not only did we want to invest in the VR project, but we brought it to Washington, D.C. And we ran, actually if you show that picture one more time,”
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“I think we're entering a golden age of art and activism and the blending of the two. It's really exciting. Here's a picture of Alejandro and he was workshopping a VR experience and so it was the first time that he was directing in VR and he had a story that he wanted to tell. He went around to agencies in Los Angeles and talked to people who had crossed the border and talked to them about their experiences and why they came. He used the actual individuals as the characters in his experience and it's a beautiful immersive experience that allows you to be on the southern border crossing into the United States with a group of people and you're apprehended by border patrol and it's incredibly chilling and deeply affecting. And it's one of those”
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“That would be nice, Lauren. That would be great. That's my goal. So let's go into storytelling because another thing you're doing is a lot of activity around immigration, which is another big topic. And one of the things you're doing is you're trying to hit activism in a very different way using artists. I don't know if any of you have seen this amazing thing and you use technology to do this. It's Carney E Arena. It's a VR experience of being on the border. It's really, talk about this because...”
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“So I think in this way, they're not using the power of their corpus in that way. So what they really need to do is look at their algorithms and look at the biases behind it, and they have to look at what they're allowing to happen.”
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“Here's something really interesting. Here's something that used to just drive me mad, which is philanthropists, and I use that word because I'm thinking of people who put all their wealth into a foundation and built out a philanthropy would use 5% a year of their payout of the corpus to do good work. And then they ignored how the 95% was invested. And often those two things were at odds with each other. They would very happily not look at the environmental degradation of the 95%. They were invested in coal and oil and extractive resources. And then on this side, they're trying to address environmental injustice and degradation and the fact that climate change is happening. And they never put those two things together. It's sort of like this lobotomy took over.”
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“One of your partners in the American Jerusalem is Facebook giving away some $300 million to local, they're in that American Journalism. It's kind of interesting that Google and Facebook are putting money into this. It's kind of like the arsonists paying to build the house. That's my quote. Oh, yeah. There are other analogies too. Right, yeah. Can they help, should they help given they've sucked up? I mean”
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“No, I don't think so. I don't think so. I love print myself. I think that the demise of print and books is not accurate. I think there's sort of this asymptotic slope, but I think it goes down to about 25% of people who consume media consume it through print. And that's where we'll end up. I don't think everything needs to live online. And I think there are a lot of people who love the tactile portability of print in that way and want to tuck it in their bag or under their arm.”
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“Yeah, there is that. So. Yeah, actually, now that we have sort of a really beautiful portfolio of properties that I think are super high quality and important journalism, I'm open to more. I do think the more should come in the form more like the American journalism project where there's a fund that will support great local ownership and sustainability and find another model rather than just rich people accumulating properties that's not so interesting and it's not sustainable either.”
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“Yeah, I do. I do. I think, well, if you look at polls about, and you probably know this better than I, but at the degree to which people trust that any news source and they trust even highly credible fact-checking organizations and their reporting, it's at an all-time low and shockingly low. It doesn't help, though, that I think some media entities play into this where we just saw it with BuzzFeed, where there's sort of, you know, there's a rush to have breaks before everything's truly deeply vetted. And that plays into Trump's rhetoric. And so we should be careful about that. Or you guys should do that.”
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“I think it's right out of a dictator's playbook. I mean, it just is. So that's actually what people do to consolidate power, to call into question a narrative that's not their narrative. I think the undermining of the media in the last two years is unprecedented and really scary. And everybody should pay attention.”
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“No, I mean, that would not be the kind of sustainable model that I think any of us would like to see. One of the founders of the American Journalism Project feels that local journalism and journalism in America is so essential to the health and sustainability of our democracy that it should be seen as a civic institution. And I agree with him. I actually think that we should think about it as a civic good, a public good that should be supported by public and private entities.”
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“Advertising model is no longer a viable model, and the subscription based model took a long time to concretize and take off. And so we lived in this time period for about a decade when we saw the collapse of credible, viable, journalistic properties. So for me, I actually was presented the opportunity. I didn't go out with the notion that I wanted to buy a property that came to us from the owners. But you were presented with a lot of opportunities, presumably, correct? Yeah, but I guess we're really specific about the type of high-quality journalism that we are both consumers of that we think are really important to have a foothold, such as local news or in America or investigative news or things like that. And what Karen mentioned, American journalism project is a brand new project that was”
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“What got you to do this? What was the thing? Is it you thought that this was critical to democracy or that you had an interest in media or this you have lots of subject areas but this has been one that we've been focused on? Well, yeah, our issue areas are those that we think are the most calcified and the most important that reflect the American values and that are important to democracy. So we work in education, we work in immigration, we work in environment. And outside of that, it started to become really obvious to us that the cultural narrative, that the kind of in-depth journalism that exposes the injustices in these fields was under attack from both a business model point of view, from the internet, from internet. Yeah, exactly. From the access to abundant free news. And so the average”
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“First issue area journals. So, for example, great education writers, great criminal justice writers, great environmental justice writers who started nonprofit journalism projects, who we invested in. And then we had the great good fortune of some for-profit media entities both at the startup level and those that existed for a long time, like the Atlantic come to us because their business model is compressed and they need an influx of capital. And for me, it was a natural extension of the entire field that we are just...”
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“So happily, we started investing in nonprofit media many years ago, probably eight years ago. And then because of the real decimation of the newsroom across the country, both at the national level, but especially at the local level, and all of the data that is available to be seen is pretty disturbing, and the balkanization of news and the polarization of news and the lack of ability for people to actually find relevant local news all is coming together with these converging forces that are, I think, putting our democracy at risk, putting our ability to converse with each other at risk, putting our ability to understand each other at risk. And so there were a number of really interesting journalists who started”
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