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Lawrence Dallaglio

lines on the record: 60
first: 2011-02-20
most recent: 2011-02-20
sittings or episodes: 1
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“I'm not very good at luxuries. I'm good at buying them for other people, especially my wife. So I had to think quite long and hard about this. The only thing that I would really miss is marmite, which is what I have every morning on my toast.”
2011-02-20 · Desert Island Discs · Lawrence Dallaglio · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I'd like to take Ripley's world. It's a story about Andy Ripley the rugby player, an iconic number eight for England and the British Lions. I was actually privileged enough to be invited by his wife Elizabeth to speak at his memorial service at Southwark Cathedral in December. Obviously I lost my own mother to cancer and I'm inspired by his story. And, you know, he was an incredible man. I remember meeting him many, many times. And there was a famous quote by Albert Einstein which said, only a life lived in the service of others is worth living. And I thought when I met Andy that he put it a lot better than Einstein with a little bit more flair, he said you can earn a living from what you get, but you can only get a life from what you give. And take it from me, baby, giving is always best. So he was a very, very special man, and I miss him dearly.”
2011-02-20 · Desert Island Discs · Lawrence Dallaglio · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“We are going to finish with an amazing song by Peter Sarsted. Where do you go to, my lovely? This reminds me of my mother-in-law, who was amused for Picasso. And it's a song about Ballerina Zizi Jean Mer, which reminds me of my sister. And my wife, Alice, who is just part of the jet set.”
2011-02-20 · Desert Island Discs · Lawrence Dallaglio · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, it was. Yeah, I broke my leg in New Zealand, and Alice was watching on TV back home, and the kids were there. I'm very thankful that it did. And we wonderfully happy. We have some great times and, yeah, amazing.”
2011-02-20 · Desert Island Discs · Lawrence Dallaglio · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Acknowledge that? I think it's fair to admit, you know, I didn't see Alice for the best part of a year and a half, two years. We'd finished with the premiership final, then the next day I'd go off on tour with England. And I'd have about two or three weeks a year where I'd be a normal person. When we go away on holiday and I could relax, I think I was probably more of a machine to live with than a person. And, you know, it just took its toll.”
2011-02-20 · Desert Island Discs · Lawrence Dallaglio · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, I suppose, because I kept procrastinating. I mean, one could argue I was in the middle of a rugby career of which I was obsessed, but also, Alice and I met reasonably young. We'd been together a month when she was pregnant with our first child ever. Right. And then obviously we had Josie two years later and Enzo two years later after that, so it just took us a long time. I think by the time we got married, and as I said, it's not an excuse, but everyone had been through both mine analysis journey, all the ups and downs. They lived all the emotions of your life. And we had our children singing in the church in Lake Como. We had everyone in tears. It was just the most amazing celebration of life because Alice and I had split up for a few months. I mean, we've been through lots of different emotions.”
2011-02-20 · Desert Island Discs · Lawrence Dallaglio · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Married in 2006, a bit like my father you mentioned earlier, seemed to take me a little bit of time to take Alice up the aisle.”
2011-02-20 · Desert Island Discs · Lawrence Dallaglio · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, this number seven, interestingly talking about rugby. I mean, this is an iconic song, Bioasis. I was lucky enough to be a part of an amazing tour for the British and Irish Lions to South Africa, which we won against the world champions. And although Wonder Wall was the song that we kind of inherited as the anthem of that particular tour, my favourite song from the album is Champagne Supernova.”
2011-02-20 · Desert Island Discs · Lawrence Dallaglio · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, I mean, I wouldn't sleep, I'd be up all night thinking about playing every minute of every game, and kids look at me and say, have we got a happy daddy or sad daddy today? And I became obsessed. I wouldn't talk to anyone for a while for about two or three days until I'd finally come out of my grump and then ready to play the next game. And you rarely lost two games in a row, that's for sure.”
2011-02-20 · Desert Island Discs · Lawrence Dallaglio · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, I was very, I mean, I'll be honest, in every game I played, I always thought about my sister, always at some point. I feel a little bit guilty about this sometimes because I don't know how much that was just natural or how much of that I used her passing and all the emotions that that created as a means of getting myself in the right frame of mind that I needed to. So no, I mean those emotions were, and I was riddled with self-doubt at times in my career. Were you? On a Monday and a Tuesday, I'd be thinking to myself, you know, how are we going to beat this team on Saturday? And then by Wednesday, feeling a bit more comfortable, Thursday, we were going to win. Friday, we were definitely going to win. And Saturday, we were unbeatable. It was more than just a game.”
2011-02-20 · Desert Island Discs · Lawrence Dallaglio · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Rugby in more than any other sport in essence is about you as an individual. You know, you as a person. But if you find the right emotional touch points, I think the power of what you can achieve is quite phenomenal. And I believe that a good side will always be a great side because of the power that you can generate from that emotional touch point.”
2011-02-20 · Desert Island Discs · Lawrence Dallaglio · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Did she give you a tongue? Yes, she did, but publicly, of course, she defended me to the hill. And when I think about all the things that have happened in my life, there's not a day that goes by where I think about the news of the world. It's just a tangled web of... nonsense really as far as I can see.”
2011-02-20 · Desert Island Discs · Lawrence Dallaglio · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, I think we didn't agree on everything. I think it's fair to say. Listen, it was very public, it was embarrassing. And do you know what? My most immediate thoughts were actually I'm more concerned about the people around me and my mum and what I'd done in terms of making their life a much more difficult.”
2011-02-20 · Desert Island Discs · Lawrence Dallaglio · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, not terribly proud, obviously. I think when you have experienced some of the things that I've experienced in my life, one has to put things into perspective. I don't blame anyone in particular, and I don't remain terribly blameless in the whole episode myself because you're all accountable for the things that you say and the things that you do. But I think it's fairly clear that only this type of thing happens in any one country in the world, and that's in the UK and in England in particular. Is it right to record people's private conversations and make them known in public? I mean, if we did that to everyone, we'd all have a few embarrassing things that would come out.”
2011-02-20 · Desert Island Discs · Lawrence Dallaglio · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, we've spoken a lot about my mother and this song obviously reminds me not only about school discos and sort of pogoing up and down, but also about my mother. Her name was Eileen, so this is Dexie's Midnight Runners.”
2011-02-20 · Desert Island Discs · Lawrence Dallaglio · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, I just felt a sense of I'd not been wasting the opportunities that my mum had given me and my parents had given me, but certainly if I put where I'd been side by side with my sister, there was one that had worked her fingers to the bone and there was another one who had just been this casual, carefree, just let it all happen individually. So I definitely became much more driven and thought, actually, if I bother to buckle down and do something, I could actually be quite good. So, yeah, I pulled my finger out.”
2011-02-20 · Desert Island Discs · Lawrence Dallaglio · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Without a doubt. But also, I joined a club where I knew no one. I picked up the newspaper at the time and it happened to be the side at the top of the league. I thought, well, I might as well start there and then work my way backwards. But I felt suddenly very much at home there. There was a real sense of family and real sense of belonging. And no one asked me about my past, which I kind of liked. And, you know, I stayed there 20 years. I'm still on the board of the club now. And as I said, it gave me an olive branch to cling to. And then in turn, that for my parents was something that they were able to get involved in as well.”
2011-02-20 · Desert Island Discs · Lawrence Dallaglio · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Were you boozing? Yeah, I guess so, but not in the. I don't know, it's always hard to know what is a lot. I suppose I would have been a lot for that age. But also just a sense of trying to take yourself out of reality. Eventually I got some sort of structure back and some sort of discipline back into my life.”
2011-02-20 · Desert Island Discs · Lawrence Dallaglio · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“What's the investment all about anyway because it's just cruelly taken away from you. I did find it very, very difficult indeed. And I wouldn't say I went off the rails, but I was certainly floating around with no real purpose in life. And I decided eventually, about two years later that I've got to do something. I joined WASPs. I joined a rugby club.”
2011-02-20 · Desert Island Discs · Lawrence Dallaglio · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, I think as I said, everyone grieves in different ways. My father was sort of, you know, trying to be stoic and strong, but clearly had a very telling effect on him. In fact, he went on to have a heart attack, mine heart attack later. My mother sort of immediately overcome by anger and sort of threw herself into the whole campaign for justice and to find the truth. I think I'm sort of left. Initially, I was left in a quite lonely place. Not that my parents didn't sort of think, oh, you know, check on me and make sure everything was all right.”
2011-02-20 · Desert Island Discs · Lawrence Dallaglio · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“This number five is Bob Marley, One Love. It's a song about everyone stopping fighting and becoming one, a bit like the sentiments in John Lennon's imagine.”
2011-02-20 · Desert Island Discs · Lawrence Dallaglio · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“In one sense, in the sense of a legacy, yes, but I don't think you ever. Completely park those emotions. And, you know, in a sense, when she did pass away, it was almost kind of, well, at least I'm going to be reunited with my daughter.”
2011-02-20 · Desert Island Discs · Lawrence Dallaglio · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, I mean, as I said, grief, you know, she was obviously very emotional, but then riddled with absolute anger at the injustice of it all, and no one seemingly wanted to do anything about it. And, you know, why was there no public inquiry? She became virtually a marine lawyer. She studied maritime law. She bought one share in Ready Mixed Concrete, which was the company that owned the Bow Bell. She turned up at their AGM several years after the incident. And when it came to any other business, she put her hand up and she said, My name's Arlene Delale, and you murdered our daughter. She didn't do it on her own. There was a number of other people in the Martianess Action Group, but she eventually, you know, many, many years later got a public inquiry. Now the RNLI have some rescue boats on the River Thames as a result of her work. And those rescue boats are called out virtually on a daily basis to save lives. So, you know, there's a legacy there, which I think is important.”
2011-02-20 · Desert Island Discs · Lawrence Dallaglio · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“If I was supposed to be there, I would have been there, wouldn't I? And I think that if I'd have been there, you can think the manly thing. Well, of course, I'd have saved her. Well, maybe I wouldn't. It would be easy to fill yourself with anger, with guilt, with all those things. But at 16, I don't think you really understand those emotions enough to put them into perspective.”
2011-02-20 · Desert Island Discs · Lawrence Dallaglio · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, of course you do. You think, you know, and I mean, you know, I always think about what if maybe I should have been. But then you sort of think to yourself, maybe the Ample Fourth and the old spiritual thing is, well, that was God's way, you know, because”
2011-02-20 · Desert Island Discs · Lawrence Dallaglio · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Very beautiful and incredibly gifted. I mean, you're talking about a girl who got into the Royal Ballet School on the strength of five lessons so clearly had a natural talent for dancing. But then she worked so, so hard. She just secured herself a job to go and teach in Austria for the Austrian Rural Ballet and become a model and dance herself. And then her life was taken away. So it certainly blew me away at 16. Because we'd been such a tight-knit family, my father went in one direction because men grieve in a very different way to women sometimes. And having three children of my own, I'm sure you'd understand as well that having to bury one of your own children is just unthinkable.”
2011-02-20 · Desert Island Discs · Lawrence Dallaglio · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Very incredibly close. In those days, we used to write to each other, which is terribly romantic, isn't it? And very nice. But my sister used to write letters all the time, and I was a typical boy. I'd write one in every four that she wrote probably back.”
2011-02-20 · Desert Island Discs · Lawrence Dallaglio · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“When you become all philosophical about it, you sort of look back and say, Well, I've got to try and just be grateful for the 19 years that we spent together.”
2011-02-20 · Desert Island Discs · Lawrence Dallaglio · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“First of all, the night before the marchioness tragedy, we'd all sat down as a family as we often did and had dinner together. And we talked about the party which I was also invited to. And I had a headache and decided not to go. The next morning my mum woke me at about 6.30, 7 in the morning, and in a terrible panic saying, you know, have you heard the news? And I could hear helicopters buzzing around everywhere. The martioness has sunk and we haven't found your sister yet. And I immediately knew then that she had died because she was the most responsible person I'd met, you know, very grown up for her age. So of course she would have phoned up. And it was just an incredibly traumatic few days. I don't think they found her body till four days later.”
2011-02-20 · Desert Island Discs · Lawrence Dallaglio · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, ironically, I was in and out of trouble, and occasionally I came across these guys. My track number four is the police walking on the moon.”
2011-02-20 · Desert Island Discs · Lawrence Dallaglio · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“You know, get a good beating. I mean, no doubt about it. I'd get hit for interrupting a conversation, let alone, you know, but not in a nasty way. I mean, people mustn't be shocked by that. It's very easy for kids just to go off in the wrong direction, meet the wrong people and get led astray. And I was always someone who was pretty good at being led astray, quite good at saying yes to things I should have said no to. And my mum would literally get in the car, drive around and pick me up, embarrass me in front of everyone, grab me by the ear, you know, chuck me back in the car and make sure that I didn't wander too far off that road. So I'm very grateful.”
2011-02-20 · Desert Island Discs · Lawrence Dallaglio · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Tell me the things like my parents would say, right, you've got to be back by seven, and I'd walk in at half eleven. What happened to you? There was a lot of discipline in our family. Obviously the way we discipline our children now is very different to how my father used to discipline me.”
2011-02-20 · Desert Island Discs · Lawrence Dallaglio · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Why do I look like that? A little bit. Yeah. A bit of mischief. Well, I think, you know, Barnes where I grew up was, you know, lovely place, but also there was a councillor state just around the corner. And, you know, naturally I was attracted to the rogues and a few ruffians as well.”
2011-02-20 · Desert Island Discs · Lawrence Dallaglio · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I did that for about three or four years and it was two or three nights a week. We used to have a little chaperone. It used to look after us and Soho was quite a lively place in those days and we were taken to the Prince Edward Theatre and we had to come down and perform three times throughout the night. You know, walking out in front of Amina Vita was a massive musical in those days. The biggest. And it was packed every single night.”
2011-02-20 · Desert Island Discs · Lawrence Dallaglio · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Weber's wedding. I did, and I actually bumped into him a little while ago, and I introduced myself. He said, Of course, I know you're a rubby play. I said, No, no, Andrew, I actually sang at your wedding. And he sort of looked up at me and went, which one?”
2011-02-20 · Desert Island Discs · Lawrence Dallaglio · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I was lucky enough to go to school in Richmond King's House and I met wonderful, wonderful music teacher there called Michael Stucky and he was so passionate about music and then I learned to sing and I became part of the choir but because Michael was an amazing teacher and he wrote all this incredible music we were involved with Avita, we were involved with Andrew La Weber.”
2011-02-20 · Desert Island Discs · Lawrence Dallaglio · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Tis three is a song by the Beatles. I was lucky enough, as we mentioned, to record a song at Abbey Road Studios, not with the Beatles, but with Tina Turner. So I've got some funny photos of me crossing the zebra crossing. But this is a hard day's night.”
2011-02-20 · Desert Island Discs · Lawrence Dallaglio · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“She gave you that expectation, but at the same time absolutely unequivocal love and would stick up for you in any situation no matter what and would prove that actually in order to get things you can't just sit back and wait for them to happen. You've got to go and get them.”
2011-02-20 · Desert Island Discs · Lawrence Dallaglio · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, I think that there's lots of reasons why champions are created and environment upbringing, parents, genes, you know, and then there's a bit of stuff that you can learn. But there's no doubt that the greatest gift you can give a child is unconditional love.”
2011-02-20 · Desert Island Discs · Lawrence Dallaglio · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, I think I got 60% or something in the end, but I was on the third waiting list, and the secretary phoned my mother and said, Mrs. Laly, I must warn you that it's highly unlikely your son will be making it into Amber Fourth. He is on the third waiting list. And my mum said, that's it, it was by divine providence that I decided to put him up there. It will be by divine providence if he gets there. It's very amusing.”
2011-02-20 · Desert Island Discs · Lawrence Dallaglio · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yes, you did, yeah, yeah. And I remember when she walked into see the headmaster at Kingshouse School, which was my prep school, she said that, you know, I'd like my son to go to Amberforth. And their master said, well, it's out of the question. He's not clever enough. At least 65% pass mark. My mum, you know, she's done throughout her life, you know, looked at him and she said, if he doesn't get there, it's not me who's failed him. It's you who's failed him. And of course, we both walked out.”
2011-02-20 · Desert Island Discs · Lawrence Dallaglio · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I was 13, and my mum, she said she had a vision from God that I had to go to this school. I mean, it's beautiful, beautiful school”
2011-02-20 · Desert Island Discs · Lawrence Dallaglio · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Absolutely cleaning. She used to have to rent out rooms to sort of pay for the school fees. So often I'd come back and not really have a room. I'd be sleeping in the garage or sleeping somewhere in the sitting room because needs must.”
2011-02-20 · Desert Island Discs · Lawrence Dallaglio · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“My parents made a very conscious decision to take us out of the state system and put us in a private school. And obviously that comes with its problems in terms of the cost. So my mum was having to do so many different jobs and there was no.”
2011-02-20 · Desert Island Discs · Lawrence Dallaglio · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, I don't think I'll be on my own. In that assessment, I was in no hurry to grow up. I used to just literally go there just to have fun”
2011-02-20 · Desert Island Discs · Lawrence Dallaglio · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Michael Jackson, I don't think I could have a top eight, that including something from Michael Jackson. The song is entitled Don't Stop Till You Get Enough, and I certainly don't seem to have a stop button, so it fits in well.”
2011-02-20 · Desert Island Discs · Lawrence Dallaglio · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“No doubt about it. Did she? Yeah. And then I think she eventually said, right, well, if you don't, put your finger out, you know, I'll be off. I mean, you know, they got married. Pretty soon afterwards my sister was born in 69.”
2011-02-20 · Desert Island Discs · Lawrence Dallaglio · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“without doing him a disservice he's a northern Italian and probably took a bit of time to settle down I could create something else but I think that's probably the truth I've got”
2011-02-20 · Desert Island Discs · Lawrence Dallaglio · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I think it comes from that ability to just knuckle down and work hard. And obviously met my mother pretty soon after arriving here”
2011-02-20 · Desert Island Discs · Lawrence Dallaglio · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I think worked as a waiter and then ended up being general manager of the Savoy, London Metropolitan, and all these wonderful hotels. Amazing to see.”
2011-02-20 · Desert Island Discs · Lawrence Dallaglio · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source