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Layla Saad
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“So it's not helpful to say, I've got to change things up here because you don't have the power to do that. You have no influence there, you have no power there, but where you do where you stand in your life, in the people who come into contact with you, what can you change there? And that really is when I talk about being a good ancestor, it's really about, it's not about like become the next Nelson Mandela, right? Or the next whatever. Each one of us has our path. Each one of us has our role to play, but it has to be exactly where we stand and not trying to be somebody else.”
2020-06-23 · Intelligence Squared · We Need To Talk: Me and White Supremacy, with Layla Saad and Emma Dabiri · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Sit at various different, first of all, different identities, but also different roles that they have in the world, right? A school is a system. And if you're a parent at the school, you can have a role in changing that system there in that school. And then that school can be an example for other schools.”
2020-06-23 · Intelligence Squared · We Need To Talk: Me and White Supremacy, with Layla Saad and Emma Dabiri · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Something else, we have to make sure that we actually do create a new world. And I will keep reiterating that while people such as myself and yourself can bring our gifts and our work into the world to help facilitate that, we actually don't have the power to do that. Those who have the power, who benefit from these systems are the only ones who have that power.”
2020-06-23 · Intelligence Squared · We Need To Talk: Me and White Supremacy, with Layla Saad and Emma Dabiri · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Having this conversation because of so much work, sacrifice, commitment that so many good ancestors who came before us and living ancestors right now have put themselves on the line to do that work. And it's on us to continue that and make sure that this moment doesn't go to waste because we got too compliant because we started to see the beginnings of change, right? Like it's really about understanding just how powerful systems of oppression are. They're still in place for a reason. And we've seen civil rights movements before. They have been civil rights movements before, and it always felt like we're on the cusp of something and now nothing can ever go back to normal, but then it evolves and becomes something else. Right? So we have to make, we have to make sure it doesn't evolve and become.”
2020-06-23 · Intelligence Squared · We Need To Talk: Me and White Supremacy, with Layla Saad and Emma Dabiri · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, I think that's undeniable. I think that's like, I don't think anyone can say we've seen what we're seeing right now in our lifetime. I think that's, it's absolutely undeniable that we are in an unprecedented moment and we have to remember that this moment only exists because of the movements that have existed up until this time that have made this moment possible in the first place and that we must continue the movement as well onwards. So yes, I absolutely honor the fact that we're experiencing something really kind of outside of our realm of what we've ever experienced before, but it's not an isolated thing that just happened as an accident. It's come because of so many sacrifices that people have made that you and I can even sit and have this conversation, right? Two black women in the way that we're having.”
2020-06-23 · Intelligence Squared · We Need To Talk: Me and White Supremacy, with Layla Saad and Emma Dabiri · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I think it's really about not only doing the book or reading the books, right, and engaging with the vast array of texts and documentaries and podcasts and all manner of things that exist, not only engaging with them now, but keeping that commitment for the long term. Because the reality is white supremacy stays in place because white privilege is very comfortable. And human nature does not like discomfort. And so it really is up to people who have that privilege to say we're willing to release that privilege so that we can actually create the world that we want to create because black people of color, we're still going to keep doing the work regardless, right? Whether we're in a pandemic or we're not in a pandemic, but it really falls on people who have that privilege to say, are we going to keep doing the work? regardless.”
2020-06-23 · Intelligence Squared · We Need To Talk: Me and White Supremacy, with Layla Saad and Emma Dabiri · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“If this is a kind of fluke or because we're in a pandemic, if that's what's happening, what happens when we're now allowed back outside, right? What happens when people are not forced to”
2020-06-23 · Intelligence Squared · We Need To Talk: Me and White Supremacy, with Layla Saad and Emma Dabiri · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I don't know, you know, because so many black, like you said, African American, black Americans have been the victims of police brutality, police killings. In fact, I have the Timehop app on my phone that shows what you posted or what picture you took this day so many years ago. And I think it was yesterday or the day before there was a picture that came up of two years ago that day a young boy called Antoine Rose had been killed. Right? So this has been happening and people will often say, oh, because now we can see it right now. It's being videoed and we can see it. And I think we have been able to see it, though, on video for quite a while as well, right? If that's the argument. I don't really know. And I think that makes me not uncomfortable, but kind of almost feeling like”
2020-06-23 · Intelligence Squared · We Need To Talk: Me and White Supremacy, with Layla Saad and Emma Dabiri · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“So kind of unprecedented surge in this work has kind of been a response or has been a response to the brutal killing of George Floyd and the protests that came out of that. But this is not the first time that a black American has been killed in these circumstances. What do you think accounts for this the level of interest in this moment? I've really been asking myself that question because I don't know. You know, we've been always saying the same things. We haven't changed what we've been saying. I know that people can account, you know, we'll say that 2020 is really overall a very unprecedented year because of COVID, the global pandemic, the shutdown, et cetera.”
2020-06-23 · Intelligence Squared · We Need To Talk: Me and White Supremacy, with Layla Saad and Emma Dabiri · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“To have the conversations, which is a very sudden shift in a very short space of time. So that's been, it's been a lot to process, especially knowing why it's happening. I think that brings up really conflicting feelings for me. I know Rennie ideologist has spoken about this as well. Of course, we want people to read our books. We want people to be having these conversations. We want people to be doing the work. But it's hard to kind of celebrate when you know why it's happening, you know? Yeah, absolutely. That's something that I've been trying to navigate as well that feels very, a lot of things discomfort definitely being one of them. What do you think kind of accounts for? So we know like this sudden”
2020-06-23 · Intelligence Squared · We Need To Talk: Me and White Supremacy, with Layla Saad and Emma Dabiri · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“So many of us, I mean, our books have been in the world for a little while now. And so it has been really, I think none of us could have predicted that we would see the kind of interest, demand really, like hunger, truly, for our books that we're seeing right now, because up until just a few weeks ago, this demand was really just from people who were already having these conversations, right? Already open to having conversations around race, racism, you know, Black Lives Matter. They were already in those conversations. The kind of mainstream weren't really there yet. And I felt like any time that I was doing interviews prior to kind of the period that we're now, that it was a little bit of like educating people on why this is important, why this matters, or is now it's like we know it matters.”
2020-06-23 · Intelligence Squared · We Need To Talk: Me and White Supremacy, with Layla Saad and Emma Dabiri · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Hello, I'm Emma Dabery And broadcaster, and I am joined today by the phenomenal Leila Sad author of Me and White Supremacy. Hey, Emma. I'm so excited about having this opportunity to speak with you for the next hour. There's so much that I want to cover. I'm excited too. I know it's going to be a really great conversation. So just to get things started, I want to say congratulations on the huge, huge success of your book. How have you kind of responded to that? Because it's been phenomenal. Yeah, it's been a lot to process and congratulations to you as well for the amazing success of your book. And I know it's coming out in the US very, very soon as well. I think for us.”
2020-06-23 · Intelligence Squared · We Need To Talk: Me and White Supremacy, with Layla Saad and Emma Dabiri · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
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2020-06-23 · Intelligence Squared · We Need To Talk: Me and White Supremacy, with Layla Saad and Emma Dabiri · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
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2020-06-23 · Intelligence Squared · We Need To Talk: Me and White Supremacy, with Layla Saad and Emma Dabiri · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source