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Lindsay Howard
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“For people to hold in general is just this kind of like let's go, let's try something, let's try something new. And if enough people host that innovative spirit, that's when things start to crackle and spark and change.”
2020-11-22 · a16z Podcast · Crypto Creators: On Art Galleries to 'Tokenized' Collectibles · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I think it's always helpful to have someone hold your hand a little bit. If you don't have a natural direct resource to introduce you to this, throw yourself into some research and teach yourself about it. I mean, I've really had to do that for myself with this. I mean, I fairly scratched the surface and fully understanding how all of this works. Because again, I'm an artist. It's not necessarily like my nine to five attention span to be reading about advanced blockchain technologies. But because I'm an artist who's interested in future models and methods, it's important for me to sit and focus on these ideas to get it into my head. So that's part of it. But another part of it, I think, is also kind of just this fearless kind of entrepreneurial spirit of like, what do I have to lose? If you're currently not making much money or any money, reeling and dealing your art, what do you have to lose but to kind of throw yourself into something new and see if it sticks, you know? And I think that's a really important energy.”
2020-11-22 · a16z Podcast · Crypto Creators: On Art Galleries to 'Tokenized' Collectibles · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Think that there's totally so much potential for this. Accessibility, the access points are what's going to be a really big part of that fan engagement generation. There's all kinds of different ways to approach this. I just want to do it in a way that I think is actually cool. Honestly, one of my big things about what I'm trying to design is like, I wanted to work in a way that I would actually want to do it. Like I'm interested in figuring out how we can work with fan engagement in a way that I really would feel comfortable asking my fan base to participate in when I kind of like flip the script and I think about an artist that I love, what would I be interested in? Paying to gain more access to their work. And that really is kind of the decision of the artist to configure what the different tiers of value are.”
2020-11-22 · a16z Podcast · Crypto Creators: On Art Galleries to 'Tokenized' Collectibles · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“You think about digital art versus physical art because I think in this case right now you are going to produce physical pieces that you're going to send to people. There's like a reproduction cost involved there, which presumably cuts your profit, whereas digital work is more easily reproduced. But then also digital art historically has been hard because like how do you stop it from being copied? But with crypto, there's this kind of additional thing of the token where the provenance and it's like this unique piece of art that cannot really be owned in that same way. So how do you think about those things as kind of part of a business model?”
2020-11-22 · a16z Podcast · Crypto Creators: On Art Galleries to 'Tokenized' Collectibles · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“At the end of the day, I'm making money, making my work, and that's exciting. And there is profit. I'm making a profit from this. And it's another avenue for revenue for me to make my art and get it out to the people. To me, these are all wins. While the profits are not as gigantic as the... It is similar numbers. In fact, sometimes more. So maybe it doesn't make that much sense for me to only be having extremely high prices and there's only one period. And then you have to wait for that appreciation and valuation. And then if it flips on the secondary market, I'll get to really often don't get to see that unless I've contractually negotiated it.”
2020-11-22 · a16z Podcast · Crypto Creators: On Art Galleries to 'Tokenized' Collectibles · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Absolutely. And that's exciting. It feels very modern, and I'll be super honest and say I'm not like a finance guy. I'm an artist, but I'm still, you know, I'm a modern artist and I really am interested in modernity and the future as well as looking at the way it works, understanding it in order to better think about it. So when I get to kind of see in real time the valuation of the work, that's kind of thrilling because again, I'm so used to this kind of tumblr culture where you get to see your numbers going up and you're like watching likes and re-blogs happen, but there's nothing actually attached to it for me other than minor dopamine bursts. So this is actually creates a little bit of capital to it to make it a little more fun at least rewarding.”
2020-11-22 · a16z Podcast · Crypto Creators: On Art Galleries to 'Tokenized' Collectibles · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And I think the fine art market fines that opportunity. But I don't want it to be completely forbidding to everyone else in the world because that goes against my general ethos of art being for the people. So to me, that's my personal approach. Again, not everyone's approach, but this is my way of making it so that we can kind of play both fields. I'm not giving up on the fine art market or the fine art world, but I'm also really interested in trying new things and in inviting more people into that, into the opportunity to become a collector.”
2020-11-22 · a16z Podcast · Crypto Creators: On Art Galleries to 'Tokenized' Collectibles · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I've spent a lot of time thinking about this. I'm going to kind of keep my works that are dealt through gallery systems and the art market. I'm going to purposefully keep them low and rare. They come with kind of the full package of framing and serious fabrication. With these works, they're high quality digital C prints. It's just larger editions and therefore the price kind of matches the fact that there isn't as much scarcity attached to them. But again, I kind of, I'm finding there's a sweet spot for me, Warren, I'm still able to work with the fine art market, but I'm also able to make it so that the work is accessible to more people. I think my work is valuable. I take it very seriously and I want it to be valued appropriately. And I want it to appreciate over time.”
2020-11-22 · a16z Podcast · Crypto Creators: On Art Galleries to 'Tokenized' Collectibles · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Piece of art, correct? Yes, exactly. And I think that's kind of also a cool way for people to support the artist. Yeah, you might not necessarily end up with a print if you don't decide to redeem your token. You're still supporting me, the artist, in a little way, just by engaging with the trading. And I think that's, again, a cool way to kind of get people into the world of crypto and supporting the arts.”
2020-11-22 · a16z Podcast · Crypto Creators: On Art Galleries to 'Tokenized' Collectibles · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I know not all artists are going to like this, and not all artists are going to find this to be their jam, but I see this as kind of an interesting way to think about kind of our works like stock in a way. And I'm interested in watching the way that that's playing out in this sphere because it's new and it needs to be pioneered in order for it to become normalized.”
2020-11-22 · a16z Podcast · Crypto Creators: On Art Galleries to 'Tokenized' Collectibles · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Or while they're waiting for you to kind of complete the artwork and fulfill that order, they can also trade the token that is associated with that artwork. And so the price of that artwork is kind of going up and down in value or it's dynamic, right? It can go up and down. So that kind of goes to the point of what you were saying about people being able to trade it. And that's really what makes it interesting here because now you're talking about not this static price, but rather a dynamic price that can lead more people to perhaps get involved with this from sort of a purely trading or investment aspect on top of the kind of collectible or fan aspect of it.”
2020-11-22 · a16z Podcast · Crypto Creators: On Art Galleries to 'Tokenized' Collectibles · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And the interesting wrinkle is that so people can come, fans, collectors, and they can buy your artwork at the price at which it's listed. And when you are ready to produce that artwork, they will get a physical copy of it, right?”
2020-11-22 · a16z Podcast · Crypto Creators: On Art Galleries to 'Tokenized' Collectibles · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“So I have done a specific run of three works, which are from what I call the Jangular Lilies series. I've offered two prints, editions of 100, and then one video at an edition of 10. I wanted to create a run that serves as this kind of cool crypto training wheels for people who might be interested in this, but are nervous to get their feet wet. Let's see what happens, you know, and at the end of the day, you can experiment with the crypto, and it's been really exciting kind of too, to watch the trading aspect of it. You know, when they trade in their tokens and they get to have the exchange, it's just kind of been like a new frontier for me personally.”
2020-11-22 · a16z Podcast · Crypto Creators: On Art Galleries to 'Tokenized' Collectibles · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I was put in touch with the curator Lindsay Howard. We talked at length about kind of our vision for wanting to find some new ways of doing things and make it so the artists have a little bit more stake in their work. I think partially because there's a curator that I really trust who is inviting me in as well as the fact that I could just sense that they had a anger on the pulse. All of that was what swayed me into wanting to work with them.”
2020-11-22 · a16z Podcast · Crypto Creators: On Art Galleries to 'Tokenized' Collectibles · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Really had a big swing on Tumblr in the years 2014 to 2017 when Tumblr was kind of popped off. And my pictures were just getting like hundreds of thousands of re-blogs. And I just kept kind of really returning to this idea of why is there no valuation? Thinking big about, yeah, I actually really can understand why this blockchain technology and tokenizing artwork could potentially be a really major disruption to the art world way of doing things, as well as married to my vision for just a more prosperous world for artists and for people to enjoy art”
2020-11-22 · a16z Podcast · Crypto Creators: On Art Galleries to 'Tokenized' Collectibles · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Art auctions are a completely different world, and it would not be fair to estimate NFTs based on that. Of course, NFT-based and supported art will have its own audience, and I expect to see similar dynamics with the traditional art world in terms of how things are evaluated. On the other hand, NFTs can be used for many other things, this is what makes it powerful. Anything that can be digitally owned can be supported with an NFT. It has a lot of uses in media and entertainment, real estate, gaming, identification, or any kind of asset or collectible. It's a technology that's slowly going mainstream for art, but it's not limited to that. Therefore, I do not think it will be only a small number of creators making good money. It's going to be the base of many new business models of the future norm.”
2020-11-22 · a16z Podcast · Crypto Creators: On Art Galleries to 'Tokenized' Collectibles · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Anything can carry symbolism, it depends on the receiver rather than the source. I value innovation, I value creation of value and I try to exist on that line, where something new pushes the limits of what's widely known. Of course, decentralization of things holds a future of a new culture of technology. Many new norms and standards, and many branches in unknown directions. Almost like the Internet just before it went mainstream.”
2020-11-22 · a16z Podcast · Crypto Creators: On Art Galleries to 'Tokenized' Collectibles · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“It's similar to cars becoming electric cars. Crypto Creator, is not a term that defines a special group of creators, in my opinion. It's only this now new, soon-to-be norm term for digital tradables. In other words, when it's so easy to make it happen for any creator, why not?”
2020-11-22 · a16z Podcast · Crypto Creators: On Art Galleries to 'Tokenized' Collectibles · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Was able to meet Bitcoin and make moves before its initial explosion. Being interested in value concepts as long as I can remember, I was instantly charmed by the idea of how value is transformed to this new exchangeable form. NFTs, on the other hand, are new to me. The first time I met with NFTs was when Cryptokitties contacted me to create an Archelect Kitty when they were forming. Today, NFTs are more than just little fun pieces. I believe in the technology it defends, therefore, I am happy to make waves in this branch of technological revolution.”
2020-11-22 · a16z Podcast · Crypto Creators: On Art Galleries to 'Tokenized' Collectibles · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I've never categorized myself as an artist even though a portion of what I do, design, surely touches art. Therefore, I believe, a better word for a crypto artist, should be, crypto creator. From a design point of view, the options are working full-time for studios, working as a freelancer, or having your own studio. For crypto art it's currently closer to the second one.The freelancer model, however, there is an important detail. A design client needs your work, but an art collector wants your work. Sometimes it feels better to be wanted than needed.”
2020-11-22 · a16z Podcast · Crypto Creators: On Art Galleries to 'Tokenized' Collectibles · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“You see, that's a tricky question. Because the newcomer assumes that it can be copied but in reality, the collector of the NFT does not obtain a digital file, they get a unique and signed token that cannot be copied or owned by anyone else. So, assuming that NFTs can be right-click save as copied is very similar to the assumption of going to the Louvre to take a picture of Mona Lisa to own it, or taking a picture of a plane ticket to copy it. NFT is not about the visible object, it's about the permission and access to a thing. It's only a matter of time until it becomes accepted in a wider sense. Every new medium for art had this struggle for acceptance. Having this struggle is not bad, it's good. When the argument is over, this conflict and resolution will be the thing that will make crypto-based art valid. From my personal perspective, this is not a conflict or questioning of, is this art or”
2020-11-22 · a16z Podcast · Crypto Creators: On Art Galleries to 'Tokenized' Collectibles · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source