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Lindsay Peoples Wagner

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“I love this work. I have just this innate desire to make great work that Little Lindsay wanted to see, but I'm doing it for me. I'm not doing it for all of these other things. And I think that's something that I'm consistently reminding myself of.”
2021-04-15 · How I Built This with Guy Raz · How I Built Resilience: Lindsay Peoples Wagner of The Cut · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“There's a Tony Morrison stanza that I really love. It's from the New Yorker and it's a longer piece about work. And I used to actually have it up when I worked at the cut in the office before. And I just always have it up on my computer because I think it's so important. And I mean Tony's the god. So we bow down. But the first stanza says whatever the work is, do it well, not for the boss, but for yourself. And I always think of that. You make the job. It doesn't make you, your real life is with us, your family. And the last one, you are not the work you do. You were the person that you are. And those are things that I've been reciting to myself and I keep it up on my computer and other places and I keep it on my phone. But I really, I think it's easy to get caught up in the titles and in the chase and in the goals and all of that. And I don't want to ever get lost in that. I love what I do.”
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“Something and she's like, Great, you can do the whole thing. And so I would, you know, reach out to their agent and find a location and produce the whole shoot and style them and write the interview. And I just was really hungry to do a lot of those things. And so I think a lot of that has also informed of how I want to make sure that we're really leading culture and we're not just, you know, chasing after, I think, a lot of stories that other people are going after. I'm super, super grateful the staff is incredible. Everyone is really kind. And I think we're going to have some fun. I'm excited.”
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“No, it's crazy because I worked at Teen Vogue before and then came back as editor in chief and I worked at the cup before and coming back as editor-in-chief. So a lot of it is informed by things that I wanted to do back then. But then how do we do that in a different way now? And I just was always really hungry to, I think, make sure that we were being as inclusive and intersectional as possible. funny now, but I probably really annoyed Stella when I worked with a cut before because I would come into her office with these long deck PowerPoint presentations of, I want to do this and I want to shoot this person. And she would say yes. And she would let me, you know, go fly and go pass some ideas. And I would have to do them from the ground up, which most people didn't want to do because it was a lot of work. But came to her a couple years ago and I said, oh, you know, Isseray, Sizza, Dualipa, all these people are going to be really big. Like we had to do something.”
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“Yeah, I mean, I don't believe in cancel culture. I don't think it's productive. I'm a person of faith, so I am really invested in forgiveness. I'm really invested in redemption. And I'm not perfect. And none of us are. And so I never want to, I think, promote any of those things. But I love that staff dearly. It was very hard to leave that job because I love that team so much. And we became really close like a family. So it was definitely hard to watch, but I'm super proud of them and I'm super excited for all they have coming up. One of the team members, Danielle Kwatang, she was the culture director that I brought on and she just got promoted to executive editor. So I'm really excited for them. And it's a really great team. So I'm excited for the future.”
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“I knew probably I had outgrown some things, but people love to talk about my age in every interview. There's like a weird fascination around this, which is totally fine. But I think... I obviously like knowing me and anyone who's close to me has always joke that I just act a lot older than I actually am and my parents always felt like I was really old soul even as a child and so I was really wary of leaving because I felt like people would also kind of people like to also weaponize how young I am when I make certain decisions or say certain things of like, well, you're young, you wouldn't understand, or well, you're young, you're jumping around from thing to thing. And so I felt like I had outgrown at a certain point, but honestly, I felt very worried about kind of being labeled as someone who would just jump from thing to thing because of my age. So it took a while for me to then actually make a decision to leave.”
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“That's a good one. Honestly, I wouldn't consider myself a super optimistic person. I'm more of a cautiously optimistic person. But I'm really hopeful for the future. And I think a lot of really important conversations that we've been forced to have. I don't think I've ever had so many conversations about racism in the workplace and just race, you know, with co-workers since last year. I mean, I think that in itself was like, oh, I actually feel like things will shift and things will get better because we're finally having a lot of these hard conversations. And that's brought me an odd sense of joy, even though it's obviously come from a really sad place, but it makes me really hopeful that we're at least having a lot of these conversations more often and that it's not something that feels hidden or siloed and the warm weather helps.”
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“Harmonious rhythm of like, okay, a little bit there, a little bit there, and just being okay with that as far as more schedule and then finding a better balance in it that's not so rigid and perfect. But I've definitely had a lot of conversations with people on just having those healthy boundaries. I feel like everyone, especially being at home, it's hard to close a laptop. Everybody feels like you have to be on all the time. And again, like there's too many ways to get in contact. Like it's Slack, email, text, social media, all these things. And so I do have a lot of conversations with people about just being mindful of how often, how late all of those things, because I think that it can be.”
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“I talk a lot about boundaries with a team, and I think healthy boundaries is a great conversation to continuously have. There is no such thing as perfect work-life balance. I don't think that's ever happened for anyone. And I think even for myself, it was like I knew in starting this job, I was going to just have to kind of swing to, okay, I'm going to be working a lot later nights and I'm going to be working a lot harder than once I'm able to get in the swing of things with people. And that's okay. And I think I definitely had the past couple years, this pressure of like trying to get it right in that balance, but it has been more of a”
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“My advice I always give people is to make sure that you are hungry to do the work and less thirsty for attention. I think a lot of people look at me and think, oh, you get to do all these cool things, but I will still do whatever it takes to get the work done. I am not the person that is like, well, let me go find someone to go do this because I'm the editor, so I'm not doing that. Nothing is beneath me. Nothing. And I think when you're hungry to do the work, that's something that's inside of you that no matter what job you have, it doesn't matter. You're just excited to do the work. I'm excited to make great work. That's why I'm doing this job. And, you know, the social media accolades, all of that, I think is a nice additive, but it's not, you know, the reason why you should be doing your motivation behind it.”
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“So, I have an interesting answer to this question. I'm prefacing with that. Honestly, I have long felt like Equipped to do what I need to do, and I never try to boast of how smart I am or whatever that nobody cares. And I'm not that kind of person. But I also just think, especially in the world, but also in fashion, there have been a lot of white people who have had jobs that they were not even equipped for that had the role. And so I don't ever feel that way because I feel like I am continuously and always going to be a hustler. I'm usually the most ambitious person in the room. So I've never felt like, oh, am I good enough? I feel like honestly, there's always too much pressure on me to overperform in every single way. And that I think that pressure has been interesting to try to figure my way through.”
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“I mean, I know it seems bleak and I know it seems tough, but if you have a perspective and you have laser focus on what you're writing about, there's always room for that. I think finding your specific voice is really important because I think Twitter has made people want to write for Twitter and want to go viral, want a piece to do really well on Twitter. And I want writers, especially young writers, to just understand that's not the end all be all just because a piece doesn't do well on Twitter doesn't mean it isn't good. And I think a lot of times people are writing in that vein. And I want young writers especially to just understand that that validation only goes so far and what you really need is to hone in on your voice.”
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“Facing things of MLK quote on Instagram or their runway or their cover was a POC, but then internally at the company, there isn't diversity. Internally, the company, they don't actually really care about POC and being promoted or senior level executives. And so it really is that holistic approach and a lot of the work that we're doing to make sure that I mean, the goal is one day that DEI won't have to be a separate initiative for companies that everyone inherently cares. And the bar, I think, is higher as far as what we accept.”
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“Basically, a lot of people in the industry have read this, and then some. So, what needs to shift in order for there to actually be a shift in the industry overall? And just got on a lot of Zooms with my co-founder, Sandrine Charles. She has her own PR firm, and we decided to, you know, partner with the human rights campaign on a corporate equity index and actually make an industry-wide, I think, business plan as far as how do we make inclusivity holistically part of your business plan. I think specifically fashion and media, everything that we do is so subjective as far as who we think is cool enough, who we think is worthy, who we think is on brand. And that's really hard to rate. That's really hard to put against numbers. And I think what we saw was a lot of these companies having the right policies that were really inclusive, but not actually putting the policies into practice or really doing the front.”
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“When I did the original piece, which was a few years ago, it felt like I think last year in having so many conversations with different POC in the industry that it was time to take it to the next level. And I think it really felt like all these narratives are out. We told all these stories of like what is happening, what needs to change.”
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“I don't know what else I can do because I'm just so heartbroken in this moment. And I think that made me realize that I just needed to slow down and figure out, okay, like this is a moment that as a black woman, I have to grieve, I have to understand, I have to be able to move through, but also use my platform, use, you know, what we're given to be able to make a difference and to be able to, I think, push culture forward and have really important conversations. And I think usually I'd be like, okay, let's do this. Let's do that. And it was a big learning experience for me to, you know, I have to feel these feelings as well, even though I'm managing people, even though I'm running a site. And that's definitely been a learning curve for me.”
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“Honestly, to slow down a bit, my mind runs million miles an hour. Think especially last year with the murder of George Floyd and Breonna Taylor, there were just days that It's not normal for me to not know what to do. And it's not normal for me to.”
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“Not on social media, and I just need something that completely uses a different part of my brain to be able to relax. And I think over the years in going to therapy, I just realized that a lot of things that I was trying to do in my downtime, I was still really anxious and where I was still just on my phone the whole time if I was watching something or trying to do something else. And so my husband was the one who actually told me like even hanging out with your friends. He was like, just do it during the week. So on the weekends, you can just be still. And it's been really helpful and it sounds strange because you're like, I mean, yeah, you want to maybe want to hang out with your friend on the weekend or something like that. And obviously I would make exceptions if somebody had a birthday or if I felt like it. But it was really nice to not make any commitments to anyone for two days.”
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“Know it's an easy thing to say, but a hard thing to do. I have to turn everything off. Honestly, I mean technology and social media are great because you can connect with all these people and we're able to do things like this, but the less people can reach me, the better because I just need to turn my brain off. And I think especially in media, your brain is constantly on because even if you're like, let's say watching a new TV show for me, it's never just let me enjoy this show. It's like, oh, do we need to cover one of the people in this show? Do we need to write about it? Do we need to critique it? Do we miss this moment? Your mind just continues to go. And so even in the things that I do for my enjoyment time are usually things that are very separate from my job. So a lot of people who, if they follow me on social media, will know I really love to cook. And that's enjoyable for me because I have to use both of my hands. And, you know, I'm not like checking slack or.”
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“I think as a writer, I always felt like People maybe weren't interested in investing in me enough or maybe communicating things to me enough and I never want people to feel like they have to guess what they're getting with me and understand really how I feel about their work or where they're going or what I need from them. And so I think the transparency piece is also incredibly important.”
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“Yeah, I mean, I'll never forget when I left Teen Vogue a couple of the Staffers had said to me that they just appreciated how much of a human approach I was as a manager. And I thought that was probably one of the nicest things that anyone had said to me because I think a lot of times it can feel in the past for me being managed by a lot of different people, it felt like the manager was just separate and I'm above you and I talk down to you and I'm leading this and you're the team. And I really have tried to make sure that I am having that human approach that I'm not separate. If you feel like we're losing and we're not doing something, then that means I'm losing and we're not doing something. And I think just leveling that equal playing field is really important. But I think also just having those conversations that you probably wouldn't have all the time or wouldn't have had before this past year. And I think just having that transparency is really, really important for me because”
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“I think for me, it's also just really important to never think too highly of myself. All these accolades and things are wonderful and I'm super appreciative, but it's always going to be about the hustle for me. And I don't ever want to take that for granted. And so for me, it's never coming in and being like, well, I am important. And let's hear the sound of my voice. No, I want to hear from everyone. And so I've just taken a lot of time to have one-on-ones with everybody and hear how they're doing, how they're feeling, what they need from me, what they're needing as far as their growth and their career and their path. And I think just taking that time to let people, I think, explain where they're at instead of me bulldozing my opinion is the way that I really like to manage.”
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“Yeah, I actually didn't have a break from leaving Teen Vogue to the cut. I ended Teen Vogue on a Friday, Monday. I started the cut. And so it definitely was a switch in my mind of like, okay, now we have to switch gears here. I mean, I think for me it is always about empathy this past year has just been insane for everyone on so many levels myself. I lost six family members to COVID. And so I felt like God, I don't even, you know, some days I just didn't want to work. Some days I just felt like, you know, I wish I could be around my family. This is the longest time I've gone without seeing my family. And I think remembering that and also just having so many conversations with people one-on-one was really important to me because everybody's headspace.”
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“We're just regular jobs. My grandmother in Wisconsin, she worked at a steel factory. My grandmother down south, she worked at a cotton mill. And I just think about that because I think for me it was like, you know, they had to do all those things to make ends meet. And so I don't really feel like I earn the right to just say, I'm tired of this and I want to give up. And I always think of them.”
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“I think a lot of it was thinking about my family and the sacrifices that they made for me. My parents just worked so hard to send my sister and I to a good school and be so involved in our lives. And I was close with both of my grandmothers, one of whom passed last year. And I just spent a lot of time thinking about these people have done so much for me and given so much for me. And I don't have the right to give up yet. Like I haven't earned the right to be lazy. I haven't earned the right to give up. These people have given their lives and sacrifice so much for me to even try to do this. And I think just the realization of, you know, the things that they had to do, even when I think about my grandmother's, they both were really into fashion and wore Sunday best and always really dressed up in, you know, the most beautiful hats and gloves and most amazing outfits with so little money, but their day jobs.”
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“Like I had something to offer. And so a lot of those first couple years was spent really trying to figure out, should I stay or should I go back to Wisconsin?”
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“And it hit me really hard when I started working in fashion officially when I left school because I just felt incredibly lost. And I think also just coming from the Midwest, you do have a certain naive presence about you and just expecting a niceness and kindness out of people. And I really felt those for a very long time, but especially those first couple years that I just wasn't going to cut it because I was black and I wasn't rich and I was always working three jobs. And so I wasn't able to afford like, you know, the luxury designer to wear to work. And I always had to work, you know, go somewhere after the job. So I was always rushing after the job. I would maybe go to another shoot or I would, you know, change mannequins, the DKNY store weekends. I was always waitressing. And I just felt like it was very much the odds were against me. But I felt.”
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“Incredibly, yes. The cutthroatness, yes, made sense, but I didn't realize I think the layers before I got into the industry, and I think a lot of times I thought it would be more microaggressions as far as racism, but then it was a lot more overt racism, but also classism, elitism, nepotism.”
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“To try to figure it out, I did, you know, I tried celebrity styling in LA, realized I don't want to work for a celebrity. I did a lot of design classes and realized that I don't really want to work at a design house and I really want to work an editorial. And so I just hustled a ton and moved out here to New York after I graduated from college and emailed everyone furiously and ended up getting an entry-level Java team bow to school.”
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“My points of reference for fashion were I worked at pay less growing up. Like it wasn't like I really knew anything about fashion. I liked being creative, but it honestly wasn't until college that one of my professors actually took me aside and said, you know, I think maybe want to try it at magazine. You really like to read. You really like to write, like you want to be creative. Maybe this is the outlet for you. And so she had actually sent me a listing for a teen vogue internship that was literally just schlepping and cleaning the fashion closet nothing glamorous. And I remember telling her, I was like, they're not going to accept me. Like, this is a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity. This is when like the hills was on TV and there was a lot of reality television around working in fashion. But they said yes. And I was really hooked and excited. And so I did a ton of different internships.”
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