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  1. “Yeah, so I am very lucky to be a distinguished senior fellow at the New York University Law School. They have a center on law and security and a cybersecurity center there that I'm working with and I'm going to teach a seminar also in the fall on national security law and policymaking. And so it's a tremendous treat for me to get to engage with the students and the faculty there and to take a step back from 20 plus years in government and spending all of that time in windowless rooms, my former office in the West Wing that you know well and the situation room.”

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  2. “So, you know, there can be lots of reasons why it's important to have that greater information. You might have, as we saw, there's a report today in the public, in the press, that ISIS has unleashed a new set of names that they have stolen through cybermeans of US persons that they're trying to foment on a kill list, and they've done this before. You might want to know who those people are to understand who they're going after. You might want to know if a nation state or a cyber criminal is targeting a business in this country to try and steal their information. Those are all reasons why it would be important to understand Further information about the US person of the business that's referenced in the report”

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  3. “National Security Agency testified about this a few weeks ago, there's a process that is overseen for dealing with that request, and the intelligence community or the intelligence agency who's responsible for that report will make a determination as to whether or not it's appropriate to share that information back with the requester. And then importantly, the information goes back only to the requester and it's not blasted widely.”

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  4. “Including the name of the person. But importantly, that request goes back to the intelligence community or the agency who's responsible for that report. And there is a process, and Admiral Rogers, the head of the”

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  5. “Or reference conversations of or about U.S. citizens if they occur in the context of collection on a foreign intelligence target, whether it's a terrorist or a spy or a diplomat. But the names of the U.S. citizens are not present in that report. They are, as they say, masked. They're referred to as U.S. person one, U.S. person two. If it is necessary to understand the significance of that report, the senior official can ask that that be unmasked, that they get more information about what's at issue in that report.”

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  6. “General Haider, John McLaughlin, Keith Alexander. So, they have described the process and it goes like this which is every morning senior national security officials receive intelligence reports in their daily book. And this is something that has gone on for decades and was really made more robust after 9-11 so that everyone could, as the phrase goes, connect the dots. So we're seeing that information. Importantly, those intelligence reports are produced by the intelligence community because it's what they think the professionals in the intelligence community believe is of national security importance. So these aren't reports that I or others would choose. So every national security official gets these reports. Senior national security officials get these reports and it is not unusual or uncommon for the reports of foreign intelligence collection to reference U.S. citizens.”

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  7. “So as you said, a lot of people have knocked this down, the bipartisan intelligence professionals have commented in the last couple of days on this”

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  8. “It was exceptionally important that there be bipartisan support for the federal government's help to the state and local systems because whatever else we seek to understand about the Russian interference over last summer all agree all intelligence agencies agreed that one of their motives was certainly to so discord and confusion and a lack of confidence in our election system and in our democracy. And so it was very important that we have a bipartisan approach and I think that importance continues today.”

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  9. “There ought to be a bipartisan approach to that. Obviously, we saw Director Comey testify that the FBI is doing an investigation. And otherwise, there ought to be, I think it's very important that there be a bipartisan approach to this on Capitol Hill. It's something that, frankly, we tried very hard to do with respect to the cybersecurity of the”

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  10. “I think it's exceptionally important. And it ought to be exceptionally important to all Americans that we had a nation state, Russia, that has become increasingly aggressive. If you look back over the last five, six years, there's something that's called the Worldwide Threat Hearing every year. And the Director of National Intelligence, the head of the FBI, the other intelligence heads testify in open hearing before the intelligence committees. And for the last several years running, they have talked about the cyber threat eclipsing the counterterrorism threat as the top or the terrorism threat rather as the top threat that we face. And they have talked in the last several years about the increasingly aggressive action of Russia and others, but certainly Russia in this space. So we ought to be, and then you saw in 2016 Russia”

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  11. “Ah, she's going back now sometime over the summer. But obviously, but the crowd strike, which was the private security firm that was hired by the DNC, they issued a report, I think, back in July About the hack and linking it to Russian Tools, as they say, in the cybersecurity business or malware.”

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  12. “What we saw here is that we have entered, we in the United States have entered a new threshold and crossed into a new threshold where we have state actors and others trying to use these cyber tools in new ways to intrude in our election process, to weaponize information. So President Obama said, take a look at all of that, get one accounting on the record so that we can learn as much as we possibly can, so that we can prevent it from happening again. And what we've seen from the intelligence professionals is a clarity on the fact that whether it's Russia or others and copycats or other nation states or other non-state actors, that we're bound to see something like this again. And so I really think we need to be turning a lot more attention to understanding that.”

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  13. “Tell us if you can attribute, determine who did this, and then what can you say about it publicly that isn't going to expose our sources and methods? And then weaken our ability to use those tools in the future. And so that's what you saw happen in October when the intelligence community came out with its unprecedented statement saying Russia had intruded in and sought to interfere in our election process, even at the highest levels of the Russian government. And then fast forward to January, the president ordered a full accounting of what happened not only, and I think this sometimes gets lost, David, not only of the Russian interference in 2016, but going back to 2008. And as you recall, having been part of the campaign, the Chinese interference into both the Obama. And the McCain campaigns.”

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  14. “Sure, we knew before that, and what we did, what's interesting, David, is we knew in the world knew, and there had been reports from cybersecurity companies and others earlier in the summer. But what we wanted to do is, A, make sure that our first priority was being addressed, which was protection of the election system, making sure there was no intrusion, and that the integrity of the election process was maintained. And we said to the intelligence community and law enforcement community, do what you have done before, whether it was Iran, North Korea, and the Sony attack, China, and their economic, cyber-enabled economic espionage against companies here.”

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  15. “Sure, what we saw was, and we got this in the report from first in October from the statement, the unprecedented statement that was made by the Director of National Intelligence.”

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  16. “We brought in some technical experts and some marketing experts and experts from Silicon Valley, and they said, Lisa, they're recruiting these kids with themes of strength and warmth. And that was very, very telling to me. And it informed how we changed our counter messaging, which is to say we said government shouldn't be the ones to be the messenger. We should amplify and give legitimate voices, whether it's legitimate or moderate imams or other voices from the region. We need the Arabic version of Stephen Colbert, for instance. Pair him or her up with YouTube and Facebook and others who understand how to really use these platforms for good and bring them together and amplify those voices. We in government can help do that, and that's what we were doing over the last couple years in the Obama administration.”

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  17. “So we've learned a few things over the last couple of years about what makes sense for government to do and what makes sense for government not to do, what we learned is government shouldn't be the messenger, that when we try to Seal of the US government on it, it's probably not going to be the most effective. But what we learned is first we need to understand what is compelling about ISIS's message. And here I learned something kind of counterintuitive. They're not recruiting young people with images of Beheadings”

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  18. “ISIS exploit social media and frankly the greatest engine of free speech and creativity that I think the US has given the world in the last couple of decades. And ironically they're exploiting that for very cruel and brutal”

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  19. “I think it contributes yes to ISIS messaging that is already proliferating on social media. I used to say that Al-Qaeda did its own form of propaganda. They published a magazine that was distributed in PDF form in chat rooms that were populated by just al-Qaeda veterans who could get in there with a password. Today, that's the eight-track tape version of what we're seeing today. And now we're seeing”

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  20. “The second version did not include a rack, but it brings me to my second point, which is that travel ban without any attention to specific threats. Without any specific threat focus, but just having a blanket ban on all nationals from those countries played in to what I believe is the main messaging and recruiting point that ISIS makes, which is you America and the West are in a fight against us Islam. And when we do things to contribute to that recruiting message, we're helping them. We are helping them recruit. And I frankly don't think we ought to be in the business of that. We shouldn't contribute to the message of ISIS and other terrorist and jihadist groups that want to promote the idea that we're in a clash of civilizations. We shouldn't contribute to that.”

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  21. “I did not believe that the travel ban was the right way to go about it because I think for two main reasons it undercuts our ability to work with partners. The first version of the travel ban included Iraq on that list. We need and need to work with the Iraqi security forces and the Iraqi people to combat ISIS in Iraq and Syria. And what message are we sending to those partners if we are taking a very blunt instrument in that travel ban?”

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  22. “So I was not in favor of that, and I joined a friend of the court brief opposing both the first travel ban and the revised order. And for a few reasons. One, I think it's absolutely important for a new administration, any administration, to constantly be looking at what we can do to screen and vet and make sure we're doing everything we can to understand people who want to come to this the greatest nation on earth. That's completely fair. And we took a number of steps in the Obama administration to refine and learn lessons and incorporate those into our vetting process. So there ought to be very rigorous vetting.”

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  23. “Study going into a complex, long drawn out attack as 9-11 was, but rather having somebody being inspired from ISIS messaging and the proliferation on social media of their vile brutal messaging and have that contribute to somebody's psyche that turns them into somebody who becomes a mass murderer as we saw in Orlando and other unfortunately other events so that figuring out how to address that self-radicalization, that quick flash to bang is a very, very hard challenge for law enforcement and the intelligence community because you don't need to take any of the actions that otherwise would have brought you into our net, the net that we created after 9-11.”

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  24. “Of core al-Qaeda, keeping pressure on those overseas, whether it's Al-Qaeda in Afghanistan, Pakistan, to its now largest affiliate in Syria, to AQAP, its affiliate in Yemen. So keeping sustained pressure on those nodes so that they cannot effectively mount external attacks against us. It's still a worry, and I and my successors and anyone who's been in the counterterrorism world never say never, but we have done a lot to protect ourselves. But the new phase we're in is one where you don't have to travel, you don't have to receive external direction, you don't have to have command and control. You can be inspired online, sitting in your basement, and have what we call a very quick flash to bang, not a lot of Careful planning and”

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  25. “So the things I worry about most Now And to a lesser degree, when I started, certainly in the White House are three things. Terrorist attacks that have reached a different phase, a new phase where we, through tremendous work over multiple administrations and great professionalism, we have done tremendous job at reducing the risk of a catastrophic 9-11 style attack. Command and”

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  26. “I don't believe he did. It's not something I raised, and I don't think it's something anybody else. Do you ever learn that?”

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  27. “I couldn't. And I got an email late that night from, I believe from my mother who had said that obviously all was well. But it was very much, I had tremendous reference points for that whole community and what The Boston Marathon means to people who grew up in and around Boston and for whom that race is such a fixture of their growing up. And the Boston Strong Phrase I think is so apt, both because of what I understand about that community and with what we saw specifically in terms of how the community responded to that horrible day.”

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  28. “And it was a perfect place to watch the race, and that's where we would always go and set up and cheer on the runners as they crested Heartbreak Hill. My oldest brother, Peter, has run the race in past years. And at the time, he still lived right by the finish line. And I knew my twin brother, Chris, was going to be taking up the normal spot watching the race and I was worried, quite frankly, that he might have my nieces in tow at the time. So my thoughts were very much both about how to do my job to provide information to the president and help advise him and work with the rest of the principles of the Homeland Security Council to respond to this. in the back of my mind, you know, where's my family”

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  29. “Yeah, I did. So as I mentioned, it was my third week on the job, and it was Patriots Day, that Monday, april fifteenth, 2013. And I remember as a kid always having that day off. It was always a holiday in Boston. And we would always go for as long back as I can remember whether I was in grade school or high school. It was a big event with my brothers and my friends and I to go watch the race. My family's home and my parents still live there. It's a few blocks from the crest of Heartbreak Hill, the famous last big steep hill right near Boston College.”

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  30. “And I began that week dealing with a new strain of bird flu that was coming out of China and making sure we were prepared for that in the US government to the Boston Marathon bombing, to a Ryson attack. People forget this, but there was a Rysin, a live ricin was mailed to Capitol Hill, and we had to work with the FBI to make sure we were finding out where that had come from as well as tell people how to respond to and what they should be worried about and what they shouldn't to a whole range of other problems across that week. And just in one week, my third week on the job, we had all those things.”

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  31. “When I got to the White House, that aperture was broadened even further to include in my role as Homeland Security and Counterterrorism Advisor everything from terror attacks and threats here at home as well as overseas to cyber attacks and cyber threats to pandemic threats and emerging infectious disease, which is a growing concern, to natural disasters like floods and fires and hurricanes, to frankly other issues that like school shootings that may be a crisis in a community that we may not be aware or understand what the provenance of it is at the very beginning. So that was the full panoply on a weekly basis I would be dealing with something in every one of those buckets potentially my third week on the job as President Obama's counterterrorism advisor was the week of the Bossa marathon bombing.”

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  32. “So there is a tremendous amount that goes on and that is that has been thwarted that people will never know about, and rightly so. But it is the case that there's a tremendous amount that has been thwarted that people will never know. In terms of the range, it was dizzying. When I was at the Justice Department, before I went to the White House, I was the Assistant Attorney General for National Security. So it was the division that was created in the Justice Department after 9-11 to bring all the terrorism and espionage and other prosecutors together under one roof, working with their intelligence counterparts. So in that seat, I obviously saw a heavy dose of terrorism and spies.”

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  33. “So it's a process, right? There are a lot of times I was woken up at night, most often by the situation room. And it is sobering to see those who would try and do this country harm, whether it's here or Americans overseas or our partners. And I've said this before, but I was able, I get asked that question a lot, how are you able to sleep at night? The reason is the incredible dedication and professionalism of the men and women, whether it's in the intelligence community, the military law enforcement, the change that this country went through after 9-11, and this focus on a unity of effort across all of those disciplines. It was an incredible thing to be a part of.”

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  34. “It was a baptism in fire for me to see all that up close and it frankly became what I lived and breathed then for the next decade. So at the FBI, I joined the meeting every morning that the director and the attorney general would have going over that president's daily brief those intelligence reports. And I continued to be a consumer and part of that same meeting for the next 10 years.”

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  35. “I was I absolutely was, so when I started at the FBI was the first time I became a consumer of the president's daily brief and the morning threat, it was referred to at the time as the threat matrix, literally the threat streams that were pouring in overnight every night Of Al Qaeda and others bent on doing this country harm and how the FBI as part of the intelligence community and the rest of the government in a post-9-11 environment digested that coordinated information about those threats and mounted responses to them was”

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  36. “And that was hard, and so it was a lot of change management, which I did not expect to see from a kind of business and management culture when I decided to go work with Bob. And it was very informative, and it showed me that an organization responds to the time spent by its leaders. And we spent the first three hours of every day solely focused on the terrorist threats to the country.”

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  37. “So it did start my really immersion in national security and counterterrorism issues and homeland security issues started really in earnest when I was at the FBI. And at the time, Bob Mueller and I, as his chief of staff, were engaged in, and I was trying to help him, really transform that agency after 9-11 into being a national security organization focused on preventing the next attack as opposed to solely a backward-looking criminal investigative agency investigating something that happens after the fact. So prevention of the next terrorist attack was the number one priority. And Bob Muller drove the agency to really change and incorporate that kind of intel-driven philosophy.”

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  38. “I think I can't point to specific disrespect. I think there I can think of times when I feel like I made a point and then maybe the man next to me at the table made the point and it only seemed to get recognized when he made the point whether that's gender or whether I wasn't making it forcibly enough who knows tried not to dwell on that though and just continue to bear down on speaking up.”

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  39. “You know, it's interesting. I get asked that question a lot. I think growing up with three brothers helped and parents who instilled in me a view that I could do whatever I wanted as long as I worked hard to get it. But I was frequently the only woman in the room or the only woman at the table. And being competent in speaking up and giving my view whether it was an obvious point to me, maybe it wasn't an obvious point to everyone else and being willing to do that took some time, but it was something I keep coming back to and remembering as being very important.”

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  40. “Yeah, I think that, as I've said before, I do not think that Jim Comey is a partisan actor. I think that, and he has spoken to this about why he did what he did, what I will say about that episode is there is a lot of good reason why there are regular process and procedures that have been observed over time that of course has been described as the ones that Jim Comey deviated from. And he did, as was acknowledged, and it's highly unusual. My own view is that the process and the procedures that are put in place for not making statements close to an election, et cetera, are in place not for the easy cases, but for the really hard times. And it's important to Adhere to them, and I think I'll leave it at that.”

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  41. “Yeah, so um I don't believe there are political motives behind them. I guess what I would say is for people to understand the unique role that the FBI and the Justice Department plays in our system. They have to understand that the Justice Department, of which, of course, the FBI is a part really is a unique actor in. Implementer of the president, whoever the president is, of his or her policies, but also have a completely independent role when it comes to investigating and prosecuting. And it's the only agency that really wears that dual hat. And career justice department officials of which I was very privileged to serve as one for many years and FBI officials really prize that. and believe to their core that it's an important role to be both to retain that independent prosecutor and investigator role.”

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  42. “No, never on the bench. I think be a little bit too cloistered for him. I think he would say. But so he was, and he had been the acting deputy attorney general at the beginning of the George W. Bush administration. And assumed the job of director of the FBI five days before 9-11. And so at the time when this opportunity to go work for him arose, it was at the end of 2005 and it was a very formative time, obviously, for the Justice Department, the FBI after 9-11. And I jumped at the opportunity to work for him. And I am so, so happy that I did.”

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  43. “He had been actually, he was a former prosecutor, he's an assistant U.S. attorney in San Francisco and in Boston. He had been the head of the criminal division. At the Justice Department and under George H.W. Bush. And then famously, as he left that pretty senior job in the Justice Department at the end of the George H.W. Bush administration, rather than go to a law firm, which he did not enjoy doing, I think he spent maybe a couple of months, he went back to what we call back to the line, becoming a line prosecutor prosecuting homicides because he just loved the work, which is a very, very unusual path for somebody who had reached the level of an assistant attorney general to go back to the line, as they say. So he had.”

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  44. “So I was getting ready to leave the Enron Task Force. My case was done. And I was thinking about going out into the private sector and going to a law firm. And a friend of mine said that there was this potential job opening to work as counsel to Bob Mueller. And I didn't know Bob at the time, but his reputation inside the Justice Department was already one of legend there.”

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  45. “Someone's life You have to still hold everyone to account. Everyone's got to do their job properly in the system if it's going to survive.”

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  46. “We're ready to go right now, and I looked down at the case file, and I saw that it didn't appear to me that a crime had been made out in the police report. And I said, counsel, don't you want to file a motion? He said, no, no, we're ready to go. Let's go. We're ready to go. We're ready to plead right now. He thought he was going to get a better deal, and he would move it along in the process. And I insisted, counsel, don't you want to file a motion? And we went back and forth like that a few times, and ultimately I dismiss the case. Because there was not a crime made out in the police report which was the threshold matter you had to have before we could move on. I think it might have been a shoplifting case. It was very low level, but it stuck with me as being.”

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  47. “And it really is a bit of a volume business in any big city. And I remember being before the judge one day having my bag full of litigation bag full of 50 different files of cases that I had to process before the judge that day. And one of the defense attorneys who had an equally heavy load came up to me and said, Ms. Monaco, we're ready to plead.”

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  48. “And it's important to recognize that as a prosecutor. And one of the things I learned going back to my beginnings in the U.S. Attorney's office in DC, when the stakes were much smaller, but you realize how important it is our system of justice is built on the adversary system, and it's incredibly important that you have defense attorneys who are willing to represent even those who have done the most heinous crimes because they deserve a fair shake before the law. But it's also important to have principled prosecutors. And I learned this very early on when I was a baby prosecutor, and as I said, the stakes were low, but I remember vividly and I relayed this to young people who are talking about going into becoming, going into law enforcement, becoming prosecutors. Remember vividly the experience of processing a lot of low-level criminal”

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  49. “And so Having, and it's really quite a humbling experience and can be very, really quite difficult to see somebody go through. A recognition of what is at stake. And these folks, they had families, they have families. It was really something that I think prosecutors should really appreciate the devastation that can be wrought in people's lives, both for the victims of the crime and for the families of those who are accused.”

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  50. “And over a period of the task force was active for a number of years, and there were a number of different cases from the broadband case that I worked on to the skilling, the Jeff Skilling and Ken Lay case, the two.”

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