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Liz Cheney

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2024-01-26 · Pod Save America · Liz Cheney on the Cult of Trump · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, well, look, I've often over the last couple years, I've done a thought experiment with myself, which is okay, say there was a president who's a Democratic president and they're very progressive and we could get, and there's a progressive Supreme Court and a progressive majority in the House and Senate. We could get everything we wanted policy-wise as progressives. But that president is doing what Trump did and not respecting the rule of law and trying to overturn elections and trying to stay in power. And I really hope that not only me, but like everyone else who I know who are Democrats would stand up and speak out like you did. So I know it wasn't easy. I know it probably hasn't been easy, both professionally and personally. So I respect what you've done these last couple years.”
2024-01-26 · Pod Save America · Liz Cheney on the Cult of Trump · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“You think that's possible to do with this point, even if Trump is defeated in 2024? I heard you talk about building possibly a new party after 2024. What would that look like and what's made you hopeful that there is a critical mass of conservatives or Republicans like you who would actually join that party? Just looking at the results of what Republican voters have been choosing over the last several years”
2024-01-26 · Pod Save America · Liz Cheney on the Cult of Trump · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I know a lot of Never Trump Republicans whose politics and even policy views have changed as a result of Trump. Some of them are basically Democrats now, some are independents. I know you're a proud conservative. You and your family have been in Republican politics your whole lives. But I've even noticed that your rhetoric about your policy and political differences with Democrats has softened over the last few years. Has the Trump threat and the transformation of the Republican Party into a Trump party caused you to rethink any of your policy positions or political approach?”
2024-01-26 · Pod Save America · Liz Cheney on the Cult of Trump · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“You recently called at least Stefanic a total crackpot. No disagreement from you there. In your book, you write about how she underwent this dramatic transition from being a reasonable and thoughtful lawmaker to a Trump sycophant. Can you talk more about what it was like to watch that evolution? Because I'm sure there are many other Republican politicians who have taken that same path.”
2024-01-26 · Pod Save America · Liz Cheney on the Cult of Trump · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“You mentioned your former colleagues in the house. Are there any House Republicans you think are doing a good job right now that you would vote for?”
2024-01-26 · Pod Save America · Liz Cheney on the Cult of Trump · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“You're out there speaking out against Trump hear Romney do this, Adam Kinsinger. There's a lot more Republican politicians and former Trump officials who've criticized Trump in the past. Do you expect them to be out there more now that we're in 2024 speaking out against Trump? Do you think that would make a difference”
2024-01-26 · Pod Save America · Liz Cheney on the Cult of Trump · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, I've heard you talk about that, and I hadn't really thought about it myself. Is that a lot of people are concerned, oh, will the court do this or that? It's a more conservative court. But it's very possible that the court could just issue rulings and Trump ignores them. The court doesn't have any way to enforce those rules. He can appoint whoever he'd like. Obviously, there's Senate confirmed positions, but he can get around Senate confirmed positions by just putting people temporarily in place like Mike Flynn, put them in place at the Defense Department. you know, and so that does seem like a real, real concern.”
2024-01-26 · Pod Save America · Liz Cheney on the Cult of Trump · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Do you have any concern that the Supreme Court will decide that the charge of corruptly obstructing an official proceeding somehow doesn't apply to Donald Trump's attempt to overturn the election?”
2024-01-26 · Pod Save America · Liz Cheney on the Cult of Trump · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“You're a lawyer and probably know more about the election subversion charges against Trump than anyone but Jack Smith and his team. If you or them, what would be keeping you up at night?”
2024-01-26 · Pod Save America · Liz Cheney on the Cult of Trump · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I'm sure you heard that Senator Romney was saying, oh, Biden needs a new argument because the democracy thing is old. And I've heard a lot of people say it's just hard to make it tangible for people when their concerns might be more immediate. Do you have thoughts on sort of how to make the threat of a Trump second term real to people?”
2024-01-26 · Pod Save America · Liz Cheney on the Cult of Trump · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Before we move on, you mentioned the border issue. And there's been these negotiations Biden and Senate Democrats have moved towards Republicans on this issue. They say they want to do something about the border. I thought they were close to a deal. And then just as we were talking, apparently Mitch McConnell said, well, Trump wants to run on the border, so they don't want us to do anything about that. And that's what Mike Johnson's kind of been saying too. So it seems like that's part of the issue is that even when Democrats want to work constructively with Republicans, Republicans then want to block it and then blame the Democrats for not fixing anything.”
2024-01-26 · Pod Save America · Liz Cheney on the Cult of Trump · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I want to ask you about making the case against Trump. I've heard of focus groups where Republican and independent voters who supported Joe Biden last time say, you know, I don't like Trump. I think he's a bad person, but I'm much more worried about cost of living or the southern border, or I just don't think Joe Biden can handle the job for another four years. And I think Trump did a better job with the economy and the country survived Trump's first term. So, you know, maybe I'll just hold my nose and vote for him. What do you say to that voter? And more specifically, how do you make the threat that Trump poses to democracy real to voters who may not feel the urgency that you and I do?”
2024-01-26 · Pod Save America · Liz Cheney on the Cult of Trump · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Does that involve, could you imagine telling Republicans and conservatives like you to vote for the Democratic nominee if it comes down to that?”
2024-01-26 · Pod Save America · Liz Cheney on the Cult of Trump · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“You said you're considering a third party run for president, but that you won't do anything that would help Trump win. Have you seen any data that suggests a run by any independent candidate would help defeat Trump and not help elect him?”
2024-01-26 · Pod Save America · Liz Cheney on the Cult of Trump · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“But here we are. That's right. So it's the day after Donald Trump won the New Hampshire primary. What do you make of Nikki Haley's decision to stay in the race? And do you see a path for her?”
2024-01-26 · Pod Save America · Liz Cheney on the Cult of Trump · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, I mean, so in 2004, I was working on John Kerry's campaign while you were working on the Bush Cheney Reelect. And if someone had told me then The two of us would be chatting about how to save American democracy from the former host of the apprentice. I'd have a few questions.”
2024-01-26 · Pod Save America · Liz Cheney on the Cult of Trump · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Joining us today, the vice chair of the January 6th Committee and author of the new book Oath and Honor, a memoir and a warning, former Wyoming representative Liz Cheney. Welcome to Pods of America.”
2024-01-26 · Pod Save America · Liz Cheney on the Cult of Trump · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, it certainly feels this week like all my Nikki Haley fantasies notwithstanding the general election has begun and the Biden people get that and they are ramping up as well and everyone's starting to see a lot more of Trump. So hopefully things start getting going from now on. All right. Two quick housekeeping notes before break. Love it or leave it is coming to Washington, D.C. on April 25th for a big show with the Lincoln Theater. Tickets are on sale now. So head to crooked.com slash events to grab yours today. And check out the latest episode of Crooked's Daily News Show. What a day where former New York City Council head Christine Quinn joins to talk about why she thinks Texas Governor Greg Abbott and Mayor Eric Adams are using migrants as political pawns. Check it out in the What A Day feed wherever you listen to podcasts. When we come back, Liz Cheney.”
2024-01-26 · Pod Save America · Liz Cheney on the Cult of Trump · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“One other piece of news from the Biden campaign our friends Jenno Malley Dillon and Mike Donlin are leaving the White House to help Julie Chavez Rodriguez run the campaign in Wilmington full-time. What's your take on that move?”
2024-01-26 · Pod Save America · Liz Cheney on the Cult of Trump · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, I was going to say, I think it requires an evolution of the Biden message around the economy, which is like so far every time there's good economic news, the Biden folks sort of trumpet Joe Biden's been fighting for that. He's going to continue to fight for a good economy. If Donald Trump gets an office again, he has already said he can't wait to give another huge tax cut to CEOs. And for everyone else, he's going to increase the cost of your prescription drugs, increase the cost of your healthcare. And by the way, he's going to slap a 10% tax on every single good that's imported because he wants to bring backs, which has not been getting a lot of attention. But talking about inflation and the cost of living, imagine if anything that had any parts that weren't made in America had a 10% tax on it, what that would do to consumers and small businesses across the country. I mean, it's crazy.”
2024-01-26 · Pod Save America · Liz Cheney on the Cult of Trump · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I also think Donald Trump has always screwed over working people. It seems like a good message, especially when you've got all these polls showing that most voters prefer Trump to Biden on the economy right now. How do you think the Biden campaign can break through with that message? Because that's always the challenge.”
2024-01-26 · Pod Save America · Liz Cheney on the Cult of Trump · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“They talk about the border, but Yeah, not with the border because it hasn't come up yet, but for a whole bunch of other stuff they've been doing this. So I'd say that Joe Biden is having a pretty good week. He won 64% of the vote in the New Hampshire primary despite not even appearing on the ballot. We learned on Thursday that even though a lot of economists predicted a recession, the economy grew at a healthy 3.1% clip last year, which is higher growth than any year under Donald Trump even before the pandemic. Biden also won the endorsement of the United Auto Workers, one of the biggest unions in the country, and he joined UAW President Sean Fane at an event this week.”
2024-01-26 · Pod Save America · Liz Cheney on the Cult of Trump · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Which is, by the way, the narrative of almost all the news we've talked about today and a message that is available to Nikki Haley and Democrats.”
2024-01-26 · Pod Save America · Liz Cheney on the Cult of Trump · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And by the way, Nikki Haley should do it in South Carolina. She should say, This is exactly what I'm talking about. He didn't fix the border when he was president. He doesn't care about fixing the border now. He doesn't care about the American people. He only cares about himself. He only cares about winning. Biden should say the same thing if this ends up not happening. Donald Trump killed the border deal not because it wasn't good enough for the country, because it wasn't good for him. You know, I mean, just say this all day long.”
2024-01-26 · Pod Save America · Liz Cheney on the Cult of Trump · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, I mean, look, I know this might sound surprising to you, but it doesn't seem like the political genius who controls the Republican Party made a very strategic move here on this immigration bill. Like I know he wants to run on the issue, but he's sort of, by being so open about it, Trump has given, I think Nikki Haley if she wants it, and certainly Joe Biden and the Democratic Party a huge opening to just hit him over the head with this from now until November, that every time that Republicans talk about the border now, Biden can say we were willing to meet you halfway, work with Republicans, get something done, and you wanted to campaign on it, you wanted to campaign on it. So now he can throw it in Trump's lap, even though Trump's not the incumbent.”
2024-01-26 · Pod Save America · Liz Cheney on the Cult of Trump · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Tom Tillis, who's been negotiating the deal, is also pretty mad in addition to what Romney said. Tillis said it's all about politics and not having the courage. He's talking about his fellow senators. He said, it's all about politics and not having the courage to respectfully disagree with President Trump. I didn't come here to have a president as a boss or a candidate as a boss. Tough news for you, Tom. Most of your colleagues very much enjoy having Donald Trump as a boss and see him as their boss, even though he is not.”
2024-01-26 · Pod Save America · Liz Cheney on the Cult of Trump · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“So McConnell doesn't like Trump. He really wants to pass Ukraine funding, which won't get done if there's no immigration deal. Why do you think he seems to be giving up? It seems like there's conflicting reports about the meeting itself, and some Republicans are now saying McConnell wasn't saying we should defer to Trump, but he was just sort of bowing to the reality that this is what Trump wants and therefore they're not going to have the Republican votes to help pass the deal.”
2024-01-26 · Pod Save America · Liz Cheney on the Cult of Trump · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, it also bleeds over to Congress, even though he's Trump is not an elected official right now. He is dictating the Republican Party's legislative strategy. Punchbowl reported that during a closed-door meeting on Wednesday, Mitch McConnell told Republicans that Trump doesn't want a deal on immigration that would address the border crisis because Trump wants to use the problem as a campaign issue against Joe Biden. And McConnell reportedly said, quote, we don't want to undermine Trump because he's going to be the Republican nominee. This led to a lot of grumbling among Republican senators who were close to a deal with Democrats, including Mitt Romney. Let's listen.”
2024-01-26 · Pod Save America · Liz Cheney on the Cult of Trump · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Almost as if Trump and his supporters have a problem with people deciding things because they think that whatever they decide everyone else should have to live with. And so therefore they want to take away people's right to choose for themselves.”
2024-01-26 · Pod Save America · Liz Cheney on the Cult of Trump · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Trump has also been taunting Haley about how he already won Nevada, where there's a primary on February 6th and a caucus on February 8th. You want to tell people what that's all about?”
2024-01-26 · Pod Save America · Liz Cheney on the Cult of Trump · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“He's a mob boss. That's what it is. That's how he thinks. Absolutely. I mean, it's just the Republican National Committee, the dispatch broke the story today. The Republican National Committee is reviewing a draft resolution from David Bosse of CitizensUnited slash Trump campaign fame that declares Trump declares Trump the nominee before the 48 other states have voted. They are so, Republicans are so afraid of people voting. They're even afraid of their own voters voting that they want to just declare that the primary is over, the nomination is over, and Trump has won. Now, the rules say that Trump would still have to win the delegates, but if they pass this resolution, the RNC can start working with him, which, you know, I mean, Ronald McDaniel was on TV basically.”
2024-01-26 · Pod Save America · Liz Cheney on the Cult of Trump · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Donald Trump cover up more crimes? Does it mean they're not going to be able to take part in the next insurrection? What's MAGA camp?”
2024-01-26 · Pod Save America · Liz Cheney on the Cult of Trump · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Clearly, Donald Trump isn't happy about any of this. He took a quick break from attacking the woman, a jury, has held him liable for raping. 37 posts about E. Gene Carroll in just 20 minutes the other day. He also, by the way, testified. We're recording this Thursday. He testified for three minutes at the defamation trial today in New York before the judge shut him up because he was trying to say that he didn't do it, which the judge said we already adjudicated this at another trial. So just stop and they went off the stand. So that was Donald Trump testifying. So he took a break from attacking Eugene Carroll and he started attacking the woman still running against him. Quote, I knew Nikki well. She was average at best. Anybody that makes a contribution to bird brain from this moment forth will be permanently barred from the MAGA camp. What do you think that means? That means that Haley's supporters won't be invited to Mar Lago to help us.”
2024-01-26 · Pod Save America · Liz Cheney on the Cult of Trump · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Also, we know that she really thinks that Trump is unfit for us. Like, she has told us this several times before she's changed her position for political expediency. So it's like, we know that she can do it. She's done it before. Now she's just got to stay there. And look, I mean, again, what do you got to lose? What do you get to lose?”
2024-01-26 · Pod Save America · Liz Cheney on the Cult of Trump · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“So she should just, you know, go all out. What do you get to lose? Your career in Republican politics is already over. So, right, you get the Crooked Podcast, maybe you get an MSNBC slot. You're going to Davos. You're given lots of speeches. You'll be on boards. It's fine. She'll be fine. She'll be embarrassed among Republicans, but that's already the case.”
2024-01-26 · Pod Save America · Liz Cheney on the Cult of Trump · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I want her to go out in a blaze of glory. Look, she's already get there. But I do think He didn't talk about the American people. He's only talking about revenge. She's tiptoeing closer to the Chris Christie message that Donald Trump is about Donald Trump. He's about himself. He only cares about himself. He doesn't care about anyone else, which I think is, to me, the most effective message. I think it's great for Biden. I think it's great for Democrats. It just happens to be true. It's true. The best messages are also true, which is that Donald Trump is a fucking narcissist who only gives a shit about himself, his election, whether he wins. There is no such thing as loyalty. There's no one he cares about except himself.”
2024-01-26 · Pod Save America · Liz Cheney on the Cult of Trump · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Democratic primary, I'm obviously going to write in Dan Pfeiffer. If you were parachuted into Nikki Haley's campaign as senior advisor, what do you do for the next few weeks?”
2024-01-26 · Pod Save America · Liz Cheney on the Cult of Trump · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“It's tough. Now, look, Democrats and Independents, of course, can vote in the primary if they want. There's not a ton of them in South Carolina either. And a lot of them will be, a lot of Democrats will be voting in the Democratic primary that comes first for Joe Biden. So although I was a voter in South Carolina, I might just to keep the fun going, I might vote for Nikki Haley.”
2024-01-26 · Pod Save America · Liz Cheney on the Cult of Trump · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, and that's, I mean, what's indisputable, whatever the polls show, is that not only is the South Carolina electorate worse for her than the New Hampshire electorate, it is like worse by a magnitude. It doesn't get much worse”
2024-01-26 · Pod Save America · Liz Cheney on the Cult of Trump · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I mean, she was Trump's UN ambassador, said he was bad, said he was good again, said he was bad. She's lost that. The reason.”
2024-01-26 · Pod Save America · Liz Cheney on the Cult of Trump · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Because I think even though she's losing some donors, she's still raising money, some other donors are staying in there, which is not totally surprising. Like, when have billionaires ever been known to make shrewd political decisions or have good political analysis, you know? And again, she's thinking to herself, why not? She's like, she's been excommunicated from the party at this point. Like if she had dropped out after Iowa, maybe she could have gotten herself back in Trump's good graces and the party's good graces. She chose to compete in New Hampshire, which is crossing the Rubicon. Now Trump hates her. MAGA hates her. She is persona non grata in the party. And at this point, it's like, what do you got left?”
2024-01-26 · Pod Save America · Liz Cheney on the Cult of Trump · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“The challenge. Well, I'm talking about challenges of does she stay in through South Carolina. So I still think there's definitely a change she drops out before South Carolina, but I think I'm more likely than not, I think she at this point is going to stick it out.”
2024-01-26 · Pod Save America · Liz Cheney on the Cult of Trump · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And again, I share your analysis of what the final outcome will be. Always have. And I will separate what I want to happen and what I think will happen. Obviously, what I want to happen is for Nikki Haley to stay in this race as long as possible because anything that happens in this country or the world that even has a chance of damaging Donald Trump politically, I am for, which is why I really want her to stay in. Now, what I think will happen, I also think she'll stay in through South Carolina for all the reasons that I talked about on Tuesday night. And I just think, you know, I think she's going to lose some donors. She's already lost some donors. She's still down about 30 points in South Carolina. She's got the most of the Republican Party pressuring her to drop out, including the ostensibly neutral RNC chair, Rona McDaniel. So she's got some challenges.”
2024-01-26 · Pod Save America · Liz Cheney on the Cult of Trump · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“But first, Donald Trump and all the Maga Goons are trying to push Nikki Haley out of the race, but as of right now, she's not just sticking around, she's actually showing some fight. She's running ads in South Carolina. Her super pack had its biggest day of fundraising this week. And here she is at a rally in her home state, having some fun with Trump's meltdown on Tuesday night.”
2024-01-26 · Pod Save America · Liz Cheney on the Cult of Trump · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“On today's show, Trump tries to tank a bipartisan immigration deal because he wants to use the border crisis as a campaign issue. Biden gets great economic news following a big endorsement from the United Auto Workers, and later, I talk to former Congresswoman Liz Cheney about the dangers of a second Trump term and how she plans to stop it from happening. Liz Cheney on Pod Save America. That's where we're at, Dan. That's 2024.”
2024-01-26 · Pod Save America · Liz Cheney on the Cult of Trump · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source