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Llewellyn Vaughan-Lee

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  1. Everything belongs to God. Everything is the great beloved, and we are part of it. Touch my heart. Touch my heart. It's already touched my heart over. Thank you. Thank you so much for sharing. Thank you for coming. God will.

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  2. We learn to listen to how the beloved how God wants us to reconnect, because we are each unique. It is said there are as many ways to God as there are human beings, as many as the breast of the children of men. And for some people it is through a life of service like Mother Theresa, for other people who are drawn into more solitary meditation that is there, for some people it is through music, for some people it is through painting. There are so many different ways the beloved calls to us, but we have to listen and respect the voice of God within ourselves.

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  3. O incredible freedom incredible freedom and there is so much love waiting for us. There are oceans of love. I talk about the far shore of love, and part of my work is to help people to glimpse it, to take them there before they die physically, so they can glimpse the truth of their divine nature. We are one with God, we are creatures of light, we are so beautiful, and there is so much love waiting to be lived, to be experienced. In this world we forget. Maybe through the grace of God before we die we can begin to remember

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  4. You know, Oprah, there comes a time in meditation on the mystical path when you know you can't die. You go into meditation, you leave behind your ego, you leave behind your body, and you experience your eternal nature in full consciousness. That's why Sufis talk about to die before you die. Then you know you can't die. Then you know that this leaving this physical world beautiful as it is will be a transition to another world which is infinitely more beautiful. And so the You know where you are going It is not a mystery anymore, but you know you can't die. You know there is no such thing as death, like the poet John Dunn said, Death thou shalt die

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  5. Well, he is my beloved. He is my most intimate beloved, my friend, the one I look to in everything. I wouldn't try to define him because no one knows God but God, he is beyond even our idea of the beyond. But he is also my beloved.

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  6. The soul is a divine part of ourself. It is our divine nature. It is a part of us that is one with God. Everybody has a soul. It is the immortal eternal part of ourselves.

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  7. I think they want to be loved underneath. I think everybody wants to be loved. It's a hunger. It's the hunger, and particularly because we live in a soulless culture that doesn't nourish that. But it doesn't nourish our souls. There are these ways that we can meet our soul, we can look within ourselves. We can go to the source of this longing. This is this beautiful saying you said earlier, which I said in a different way when I quoted Rumi who said I never knew that God too desires us. When he wants you enough, when he comes knocking on your door and say it's time to go home.

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  8. It's long. Oh, it's You long for something, and people sadly, because they don't know, we've lost the understanding of longing, and so they project it. They want a new pair of shoes, they want a new boyfriend, they want something they don't realize that that will not satisfy this hunger in the heart.

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  9. You feel this hunger. And you can touch many, many people. That's your gift. That's the gift you've been given. It's also responsibility for you. Because you can't just walk away, you can't just live an easy life.

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  10. And yet he has touched the hearts of so many people here in the West today. Why? Because he speaks about love, not some idealized love, but a love that belongs to all of us and also belongs to God, and he touches the heart. And as you say, there is this, you said a while ago, there is this hunger in our culture. Yes. A hunger, longing, call it what you will, for what is real for not that the

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  11. I think there is a hunger for love. I think there is a hunger for something that is real, that is not being bought and sold in the marketplace that is... Is just true that it is pure, and this great poet Rumi, he lived almost eight hundred years ago.

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  12. Takes you into the unknown within yourself, it takes you to the unknown within life, just as any calling does. You can't control mysticism. It's not yours. You have to learn to bow down before God. But the rewards are tremendous. You know there is so much love, Ora there is so much love. If people knew how much love there is within themselves, within life, we are made of love.

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  13. Hildegard from Bingen. She was a great Christian mystic. Then your life is taken where it needs to go. That's lived mysticism. And it is about the mystery of the human being. Yes, it's frightening. Because it takes you into the unknown.

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  14. Feather on the breath of God, that's Hildegard von Bingen, a Christian mystic She lived like a feather on the breath of God. Just take that image, see where it takes you.

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  15. It is it is the greatest mystery that we are one with God. We are one with each other, that we are not separate. The greatest illusion

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  16. That is for me the tragedy. You've lost its sacred nature. We don't realize that it's a gift given us. Given to us to help us to wake up, to help us to realize we are one planet, we are one race, we are one lot of human beings, and we have to make this step in our evolution. Otherwise, I think the planet will die. And to me, being present in this world at this time requires a consciousness of oneness to help the world, to help each other, so we can redeem this world.

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  17. Someone. This is life reconnecting itself according to oneness. It is the organic nature of life that needs us to participate.

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  18. And yet, look at that understanding of the ecosystem it is one ecosystem. We are all part of one world in a way that was inconceivable in my parents' generation. And for me, the internet is a very precious symbol of that. We've been given this tool of oneness. People in the cyber cafe in Tajikistan, somewhere in a room in Manhattan, they're all connected together. Of this worldwide web of interrelationships. That to me is oneness at work. Oneness is not an idea. Oneness is a life force. Oneness is the life force of the planet, trying to break through this hierarchical structures that are killing it. I have a passionate belief in oneness, not just as a mystic, I know what oneness is like within the heart and within life, but as a practical tool, we have to live according to oneness.

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  19. When the beloved wants to take you. It's really not up to you, it's up to the beloved, it's up to you. Those moments you are taken by God to God. You are taken by love to love. And then you are completely lost.

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  20. Central. Central to Sufism. We are all one. God is one. Everything is part of this living breathing oneness. That you can call God, you can call life God is alive. And it is this oneness of which we are all a part. And you can experience it. You have two experiences of oneness. One is this intimate experience within the heart. You go within the heart and you dissolve into the oneness of God within the heart. It's very intimate. I think the nearest experience is when lovers meet physically and they get closer and closer and then there is this moment of bliss in which you are no longer there. And except for mystics, it happens in a way much more magnificently. The whole of your heart opens and you just walk.

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  21. And at the same time, God is in everything. God is in every breath we breathe, nothing other than God. The Sufis say he is both intimate and also beyond even our idea of the beyond.

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  22. I am Sophie, so for God he is my beloved, he is my most intimate friend, my beloved, as well as a tremendous, tremendous power. And sometimes I've had an experience of that incredible power that one can call God. Completely different to the power that people think, the worldly images of power.

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  23. Well, I tell you secret. I'm a mystic, and as a mystic, you believe ultimately it is the grace of God, because you know that everything you have been given has come from God, and I believe the world belongs to God, and there is this moment of crisis, and then you cry out to God. Part of my practice and the practice I try to teach people is in your prayers, remember the world to God. Feel it in your heart, this suffering world, and offer it to God because God is the greatest power. God is the greatest healer. God is the only real truth. And then maybe out of this world of forgetfulness that can become remembrance, and then the world can respond and something can be born again, like for many people.

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  24. Much, much deeper. Much deeper. And those of us who have been given access to their own light, who have had a glimpse of this divine spark within them, which is just really having a glimpse of God, however you call it.

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  25. That's what you mean by the crucifixion of the ego. Yeah, then the heart breaks, and then he says, I am with those whose hearts are broken for my sake.

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  26. Because the heart has to break for the Sufi. The heart has to break open. Most people are so closed they are so contracted. It's all about me, me, me.

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  27. Yeah, very, very painful. Because when I came to my teacher and I was 19, I was so arrogant, you know, I'd meditated for a few years. I'd done hatha yoga. I'd had some experiences in meditation. And I really thought I knew something about it. And one has to learn humility. You have to learn patience. You have to learn that it isn't about you. And those are all painful lessons. We don't learn them so easily human beings. We want it to be easy, but it isn't.

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  28. Sayings, and it was like a key. It opened a door inside of me, and suddenly the world was full of light. Suddenly there was laughter, suddenly there was joy, suddenly something else was present, and then I started to meditate and go deeper.

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  29. It was actually reading a Zen Kohan. I was 16 and I read this Zen Kohan, which is the wild geese do not intend to cast their reflection. The water has no mind to receive their image. And these enigmatic Zen.

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  30. No, because when I was a child, I was brought up in a religion that... Was not really spiritual, it wasn't a calling, it was more a social obligation. My father loved church music, so we used to go to beautiful churches and listen to choirs. But direct experience of God didn't even exist. It wasn't on the table. And then I had an experience when I was 16, and I just woke up. And suddenly I saw the world completely different.

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  31. You can be a Christian, you can be a Buddhist, you can be, it doesn't matter, that's the outer form you live in. In fact, I was brought up Christian and I had a much deeper understanding of Christianity since learning about Sufism I mean, and what matters is how you live your relationship to God, that secret inner calling within the heart.

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  32. At a wonderful Franciscan monk the other day who said St. Francis was very influenced by Sufism. That was part of his calling. Sufism is about the love within your love. God does not look at the outer form. He looks at the love within your love.

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  33. We are the slaves of God and the servants of humanity. And Sufi's are involved in humanity, whether as a doctor, a plumber, a painter. Therapist, wherever you are called by God to participate in life.

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  34. Sufi clothes on, loving God. It's a path of service. It's a path of service. Sufis are known as the slaves of the one and the servants of the many.

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  35. There is nothing other than God, and it can be an experience of oneness. You get taken into the oneness that is all around you, that is part of life. It can be an experience of love. You get drawn into this love, you begin to lose yourself in love, and suddenly there is no longer you, there is just love.

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  36. I used to, when I was young, we used to row in the park in London And you could rent these little boats, little paddle boats or canoes as kids. 25 cents for half an hour. And at the end of half an hour, there was a guy with a megaphone, and he'd say, number 25, your time is up. Come in, please. And it's like that the beloved looks at the human being and says, hey, your time is up. It's time to start going home. The Sufis talk about the homesickness of the soul, the journey home. And something calls to you. There is this moment, and it's really whether you take respect and value that moment and then begin the journey. To God. Journey to

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  37. It is a gift. It is a gift. I think Echo Tolle had this moment of awakening for him. It was a gift. It's always a gift by God, that moment. However, it comes because

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  38. She'd realize there was something within her. It wasn't just about material accumulation. And it was like this magical moment when something awakens within the heart of the human being.

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  39. The world now. Yeah, the world is good, very sadly. And then there comes this moment in their life when something wakes them up. It's a very magical moment. I tell you a story. Once I was traveling to New York on an aeroplane and I went to use the bathroom and there was a line for the bathroom and I saw that the stewardess at the back was reading a book about dreams that I happened to know. And I said, oh, it's an interesting book, I'm surprised you're interested in this book. Anyway, she started to tell me her story and she said she'd just been to a workshop. And then she said, I suddenly discovered there's more to life than getting stuff Could see this light in her eyes, she'd woken up.

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  40. I would like to be in the journey in God. The journey from God is a journey of forgetfulness. People come into this world. And they forget their divine nature. They become caught in the what the Chinese say the ten thousand things. All the things of life, the ten thousand things.

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  41. And sadly so much of our culture has not valued the feminine. Just to hold something, just to hold a space, to hold a space in your heart for God, to wait for God, not to demand, not to ask, but to wait, that is actually part of prayer, to learn to wait within your heart, to listen, to To be present Without wanting anything except your beloved.

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  42. Because there is the masculine inside of love, I love you. And then there is the feminine inside of love. I am waiting for you. I'm longing for you.

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  43. It's a hunger. It's not just a longing. It's a hunger for something that is real because all these things, all these material things, they don't satisfy our soul, Opera, that they may give us a moment of pleasure. Do they bring us joy? No. And they don't nourish our soul. And there is this deep longing. In fact, one of my favourite definitions of Sufism was Sufism was at first heartache, only later it became something to write about. It's the call of the soul, the cry of the soul, it's something primal within each of us. We long for God, we long for truth, we long for love. It doesn't matter how you call it, it's this longing. It's actually what is interesting, Oprah, is it's the feminine side of love.

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  44. That is also a certain surrender, a certain service for me because maybe it has meaning, maybe it can touch other people. That there is this extraordinary something within the heart of all of it, each of us, that is divine. The Sufis talk about the heart of hearts, this central part of our own being that belongs only to God.

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  45. For me, mysticism is something that draws me deep within my own heart. I like to be alone, I like to meditate, I like to pray, that's what and for me to come out and talk to you about the cameras, about the secret of the soul, about this calling in my own heart.

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  46. It's called in Sufism, you dissolve, the ego dissolves like sugar and water, you dissolve. If the ego surrenders, look, you are in service. I know you are in service. And what does it mean to be in service? It means you surrender to somebody else's will. Or whatever it is that asks you, that calls you to be in service.

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  47. You crucified it? There comes a point on the path when the ego bows its head in surrender. It is no longer the king of the castle. You can't live without an ego, otherwise I've had experiences of having no ego, and then you are everything. You are every leaf, you are every cloud, you are every car, you are every sound.

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  48. You can be guided by, you can connect with, Can give you the help, the grace, the nourishment, the meaning that you need. It's the soul that gives us meaning in life.

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  49. Sufi says talk about dying before death. You die to the ego. For most people, the ego is the king. Right, but Some of us have glimpsed

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  50. As living, driving, pulsating being. And all I would take it one step further and say, it's not just a living being, it's a living spiritual being, just like we are. We're not just a physical being. We're a spiritual being. We have a heart. We have a soul. And the world has a soul too. And we are part of it. We are part of this incredible miracle that has a sacred core at its very center. Just like we have a sacred core at our center. You can call it love, you can call it magic comes from the soul and starts to heal the human being.

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