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Logan Kilpatrick

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  1. “Yeah, that's a great question. I wonder if you can put this in like the show notes or something like that. But there's a really great Harvard Business School study about, and I forgot which consulting firm, they did it with. Maybe it was like Boston Consulting or something like that, but it might have been one of the other ones. And they talk about like the order of magnitude of efficiency gain for those folks who are using AI tools. And I think it was ChatGBT specifically in those use cases that they were using comparatively against like folks who aren't using AI. I'm really excited also just like as this more time passes between the release of this technology for us to get more empirical studies because like I feel this for myself like as somebody who's an engineer today like I use ChatGPT and like I can ship things way faster than I would be able to I don't have any like good metrics for myself to put a to put like a specific number on it but I'm guessing like people are working on those studies right now I think engineering is actually like one of the highest levels”

    2024-02-08 · Lenny's Podcast · Inside OpenAI | Logan Kilpatrick (head of developer relations) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  2. “And I think if you're going to try and solve this very general, like if you're going to try to build like the next general assistant to compete with something like ChatGPT, it has to be so radically different. Like people have to really be like, wow, this is solving these 10 problems that I have with ChatGT and therefore I'm going to go and try your new thing. Otherwise, like, you know, we're just putting a ton of engineering efforts and research effort into making that like an incredible product. And it's just going to be like the normal challenges of building companies. I mean, it's just hard to compete against something like that.”

    2024-02-08 · Lenny's Podcast · Inside OpenAI | Logan Kilpatrick (head of developer relations) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  3. “Empathy and like a lot of excitement for people who are like building these like very general products today. Like I talked to a lot of developers who are building like, you know, just general purpose assistance and like general purpose agents and stuff like that. I think it's cool and it's a good idea. I think like the challenge for them is like they are going to end up directly competing against us in those spaces. And I think there's enough room for a lot of people to be successful. But like it to me, like you shouldn't be surprised when we end up launching some like general purpose agent product because like again, we're sort of building that with GPTs today versus like we're not going to launch like some of these like very verticalized products like we're not going to launch like an AI sales agent. Like that's just not what we're building towards. And companies who are and have some domain specific knowledge and they're really excited about that problem space. Like they can go into that and leverage our models and like end up continuing to be on the cutting edge without having to like do all that R&D effort themselves.”

    2024-02-08 · Lenny's Podcast · Inside OpenAI | Logan Kilpatrick (head of developer relations) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  4. “That's a great question. I think we're deeply focused on these very, very general use cases like the general reasoning capabilities, the general coding, the general writing abilities. I think where you start to get into some of these like very vertical applications, and I think a great example of this is it's actually like Harvey. I don't know if you've seen Harvey, but it's this legal AI use case where they're building custom models and tools to help lawyers and people at legal firms and stuff like that. And that's a great example of like our models are probably never going to be as capable as some of the things that Harvey's doing because our goal and our mission is really to solve this like very general use case and then people can do things like fine-tuning and build all their own custom UI and product features on top of that. And I think that's the, you know, I have a lot of”

    2024-02-08 · Lenny's Podcast · Inside OpenAI | Logan Kilpatrick (head of developer relations) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  5. “I think like 2024 is the year of multimodal AI, but it's also the year that people really push the boundaries of some of these like new UX paradigms around AI.”

    2024-02-08 · Lenny's Podcast · Inside OpenAI | Logan Kilpatrick (head of developer relations) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  6. “Yeah, and that's like only a small piece of what TL draw is actually working on. But there's all of these new interfaces to interact with AI. And I think like I was having a conversation with the TL draft folks a couple of days ago really blows my mind to think about how chat is the predominant way that folks are using AI today. And like I actually think like, and this is my bold case for the folks at TL Draw, I'm super excited for them to build what they're building, but they're sort of building this infinite Canvas experience. And you could imagine how as you're interacting with an AI on a daily basis, like, you know, you might want to jump over to your like infinite canvas, which the AI has sort of filled in all the details and you might see like a reference to a file and to a video and like all of these different things. And it's such a cool way, like it actually makes a lot more sense for us as humans to like see stuff in that type of format than I think like just listing out a bunch of stuff in chat. So I'm really, really excited to see more people.”

    2024-02-08 · Lenny's Podcast · Inside OpenAI | Logan Kilpatrick (head of developer relations) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  7. “Things that are getting me most excited are these new interfaces around AI, like the rabbit R1. I don't know if you've seen that, but the consumer hardware device, this company called TL Draw. I don't know if you've seen TL Draw.”

    2024-02-08 · Lenny's Podcast · Inside OpenAI | Logan Kilpatrick (head of developer relations) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  8. “Since I joined. It's been crazy to think about how many new folks there are. And I really think that this really brought people together because most folks like historically many of the folks when I joined, what kind of bandage”

    2024-02-08 · Lenny's Podcast · Inside OpenAI | Logan Kilpatrick (head of developer relations) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  9. “One of my takeaways was I'm actually very grateful that this happened when it happened. I think today the stakes are, you know, they're still relatively high. Like people have built their businesses on top of OpenAI. We have tons of customers who love ChatGPT. So if something bad happens to us, we definitely impact our customers. But sort of on the world scale, like, you know, somebody else will build a model if OpenAI disappeared and continue towards this progress of general intelligence. I think fast forward like five or ten years of something like this would have happened. And we sort of hadn't gone through the hopeful upcoming word transformation and sort of all those changes that are going to happen. I think it would have been a little bit or potentially much worse of an outcome. So I'm glad that things happened when the stakes are a little bit lower. And I totally agree with you. It's like the team has been growing so rapidly over the last years.”

    2024-02-08 · Lenny's Podcast · Inside OpenAI | Logan Kilpatrick (head of developer relations) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  10. “Like the caliber of our team and like everybody who's just so excited about building towards the mission that we're building towards. So I think that was like the most, yeah, that was the most surprising thing of the whole incident. I think a lot of companies like would have had the potential to like truly be like derailed for some non-trivial amount of time by this. And like everybody was just right back to it, which I love.”

    2024-02-08 · Lenny's Podcast · Inside OpenAI | Logan Kilpatrick (head of developer relations) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  11. “Some of the things that were happening between the board and the leadership team. So very, very surprising. I think my sort of Someone who's not based in San Francisco. I was like, again, very selfishly kind of happy that it happened over the Thanksgiving break because a lot of folks actually had like gone home to different places. So it felt like I had a little bit of comfort knowing like I wasn't the only one not in San Francisco because like everybody was meeting up in person to do a bunch of stuff and be together during that time. So it was nice to know that there was a few other folks who are sort of out of the loop with me. I think the thing that surprised me the most was like just how quickly everybody got back to business. Like I flew to San Francisco the next week after Thanksgiving, which I wasn't planning to do to deal with the team in person and like seeing literally Monday morning, I was kind of walking into the office being like expecting, I don't know, something like weird to be going on or happening or like. And really it was like people laser focus and like back to work. And I think that like speaks to”

    2024-02-08 · Lenny's Podcast · Inside OpenAI | Logan Kilpatrick (head of developer relations) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  12. “It was definitely a very stressful Thanksgiving week. I think in broad context, like, you know, OpenAI had been pushing for a really long time since ChatGPT came out. And that was supposed to be like the first, one of the first weeks that like the whole company had taken time away to like actually reset and have a break. So like very selfishly, I was super excited, spent time with my family, all that stuff. And then the after Friday afternoon, we got the message that all of the changes were happening. And I think it was super shocking because I think, and this is a perspective, a lot of folks share, like, there's everybody has and had and continues to have such deep trust in Sam and Greg and our leadership team that it was like just very surprising. And we're also like a very, as far as company cultures go, like very transparent and very open. So like, you know, when there's problems or there's things going on, like we tend to hear about them. And again, it was the first time that a lot of us had heard.”

    2024-02-08 · Lenny's Podcast · Inside OpenAI | Logan Kilpatrick (head of developer relations) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  13. “Finding people who are high agency and work with urgency, if I was hiring five people today, like those are like some of the top two characteristics that I would look for in people because you can take on the world if you have people who have high agency and like not needing to get 50 people's different consensus. They hear something from our customers about a challenge that they're having and like they're already pushing on what the solution for them is and not waiting for all the other things to happen that like people just go and do it and solve the problem. And I love that. It's so fun to be able to be a part of those situations.”

    2024-02-08 · Lenny's Podcast · Inside OpenAI | Logan Kilpatrick (head of developer relations) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source